Surreal vs Surrealistic vs Surrealist
Daniel Decamillis
surrealistic? Are there any differences?
Sorry to be so mundane.
barrett john erickson
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> Does anyone know the proper use of these adjectives: surreal, surrealist,
> surrealistic? Are there any differences?
>
> Sorry to be so mundane.
the only one of these actually used by surrealists (except in a joking
manner) is "surrealist".
and when they're not using it as a noun...
[quoting an earlier post:]
it is my experience that when surrealists refer to a "surrealist painting"
or a "surrealist poem", they generally mean that it is a painting or poem
produced by a surrealist and that the work fits well within the context of
surrealism as it exists among surrealists.
what you generally _will_not_ hear is any implication the painting or poem
itself has some kind of "surrealist" quality. but this isn't always clear
because you often hear remarks that imply that.
but if you examine those remarks and discuss them with whoever made them,
you'll usually find that what is really being labeled "surrealist" isn't the
painting or poem, but the _poetic_dimensions_ of that work as revealed by
the _surrealist's_exploration_ of that painting or poem -- whether those
dimensions were intended or not by the creator("artist").
and this is my preferred perspective (very similar to Duchamp's, by the
way):
"art" is a _process_of_interaction_ between the creator("artist") and the
"observer" via some medium (the painting or poem or performance or ...).
both are _active_ participants in art_as_experience_, although these actions
may be separated by vast distance or time.
"surrealist art" might therefore be seen as any process involving more than
one person where one or more participants is a surrealist actively exploring
the poetic dimensions of the medium of their interaction.
[end quote]
"surreal" and "surrealistic" are essentially popular vulgarizations of
surrealist terminology used by those that have misunderstood, or never tried
to understand, the basics of surrealism.
hope this was helpful.
barrett
Daniel Decamillis
'surrealist' as adjective and noun.
Dictionaries suggest that 'surreal' is a useful word, especially when
associated with the irrational quality of dreams. This may be a useful word
when not wishing to make reference to the modern surrealist movement.
BTW, there are many word sets like this that I cannot seem to figure out :
repetitive and repetitious, angry and angered, ....they really get under my
skin.
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