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rEPtilICus

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Jul 31, 2002, 9:21:10 PM7/31/02
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http://people.clarityconnect.com/webpages3/jag8/index.html


squid777

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Aug 22, 2002, 9:16:25 PM8/22/02
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The only purpose any occult phenomena would have in surrealism would be
its transformative powers. Its ability to change,
that is why i liked the movie 'The Exorcist'. I always wanted to have my
head turn around opposite side and see what is in back as well as foward
simultaneously while talking in a voice of some unkown language. That
might make for a great painting.
Seriously, though, a writer named Mike Tablot was greatly inspired by
denzians from frequency domains which in turn inspired him to write a
few very interesting books. Mysticism and the new Physics was among
them.

rEPtilICus wrote:

> http://people.clarityconnect.com/webpages3/jag8/index.html

Morpheal

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Aug 24, 2002, 8:54:52 PM8/24/02
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squid777 wrote:

> The only purpose any occult phenomena would have in surrealism would be its transformative powers. Its ability to change,..

No.

The occult, as it has been referred to, is that which is anomalous in
terms of public or accessible scientific explanation current at the time
period. Some things that were occult are not any more. However, there
are plenty of anomalies that defy scientific explanation, and in fact
there are still as many ways (magick) potentially to effect and be
affected by anomalies.... as ever.

Surrealism simply takes that, and much else, into artistic expression.
Yes, the occult, the anomalous, does enter into surrealist expression,
because it is a part of psychological and material life. That not
everyone is aware of that side of it matters not. A real surrealist is
VERY aware of that side of it.

R.M.

elag

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Aug 26, 2002, 12:11:56 AM8/26/02
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squid777 wrote:
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> The only purpose any occult phenomena would have in surrealism would be
> its transformative powers.


I take the stance that anything "occult" can have only a purely
psychological effect.


Its ability to change,
> that is why i liked the movie 'The Exorcist'. I always wanted to have my
> head turn around opposite side and see what is in back as well as foward
> simultaneously while talking in a voice of some unkown language.


What I like to do is close my eyes and listen to languages which I do
not speak (Chinese, Korean, Hindi, &tc.). The brain tends to try to
force the words into English... a delicious tension results which can be inspirational.

Morpheal

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Aug 26, 2002, 6:31:02 PM8/26/02
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elag wrote:

> I take the stance that anything "occult" can have only a purely
> psychological effect.

No. That's not true.

R.

elag

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Aug 26, 2002, 9:04:46 PM8/26/02
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Prove it.

Morpheal

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Aug 27, 2002, 7:14:18 PM8/27/02
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elag wrote:

> Prove it.

You want ME to work magick on YOU ?

Why ? That would be a total waste of magick.

R.

elag

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Sep 2, 2002, 11:49:19 PM9/2/02
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Ent now I weel perform a feat of prestadooja... prastadeeja...
majeeks... yessss...

Regardez!

notheenk up my sleeves... yesss...

ent now I make weeth ze majeek words...

ROOTA
VOOTA
ZOOT!

You are deesapeared... yess...

Rajah of the Orange Groves

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Sep 3, 2002, 6:16:43 PM9/3/02
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Why is it that kooks seem to nearly always center the text on all their webpages?

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Morpheal

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Sep 4, 2002, 6:56:06 AM9/4/02
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Rajah of the Orange Groves wrote:

> Why is it that kooks seem to nearly always center the text on all their webpages?

The preservation of any real freedom of expression requires kooks.

Become one. Then you'll understand that.

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R.M.

Morpheal

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Sep 4, 2002, 7:43:03 PM9/4/02
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elag wrote:

> Ent now I weel perform a feat of prestadooja... prastadeeja...
> majeeks... yessss...

> notheenk up my sleeves... yesss...
> ent now I make weeth ze majeek words...
> ROOTA
> VOOTA
> ZOOT!
> You are deesapeared... yess...


I've done that one. The invisibility trick. It's terribly boring...

R.M.

elag

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Sep 5, 2002, 8:58:46 PM9/5/02
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Would that be "Head-In-The-Sand" invisibility
or
"Peek-A-Boo" invisibility?

Morpheal

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Sep 7, 2002, 12:46:14 PM9/7/02
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elag wrote:

> Would that be "Head-In-The-Sand" invisibility
> or "Peek-A-Boo" invisibility?

No. It's walk through a room and no one there would even remember that
someone walked through. That kind of invisibility. The real cloak of
invisibility.

R.M.

elag

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Sep 7, 2002, 11:24:28 PM9/7/02
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You could try wearing a really loud plaid.

Morpheal

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Sep 9, 2002, 6:53:13 AM9/9/02
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elag wrote:

> You could try wearing a really loud plaid.

Could wear anything, if the cloak of invisibility is on,... You'll find
references to it in the grimoires, in Eliphas Levi, in the works
pertaining to the Order of the Golden Dawn, Crowley's musings, etc. It's
old hat among the magick crowd. Hawaiian shirts, plaid, basic black,
anything... it doesn't matter.

R.M.

blueBOT

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Sep 18, 2002, 7:56:13 PM9/18/02
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If that is KOOK then count me in 'a surrealist kook'.

Rajah of the Orange Groves wrote:

Kwigd144

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Sep 18, 2002, 9:45:44 PM9/18/02
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Blubot! CHOO CHOO! GET OFF THE TRAIN!

blueBOT

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Sep 22, 2002, 4:14:00 PM9/22/02
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MAKE ME PUNK

Kwigd144

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Sep 23, 2002, 11:14:03 AM9/23/02
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Oh Blubot, YOU SUCH A BABY! Hahahahahahaha! BABY BABY BABY! Hahahahahhahaha The
Punk!!!

Aisys

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Nov 3, 2002, 3:59:53 PM11/3/02
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I can't see to the beginning of this thread, so I don't know if it was
already mentioned, but there is a book called "Surrealism & The
Occult". I have a copy but have not yet read it. I have no idea if it
is any good, but here is the info:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0892813733/qid=1036357107/
sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_2/103-4455076-0960604?v=glance&n=507846

Kwigd144

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Nov 3, 2002, 4:15:00 PM11/3/02
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Aisys, There is also a Major Influence of the Occult on Surrealism going back
to Tanguy's work and also Charles Richet. A great referene would be to read,
"Traite de Metapsychique" which appeared two years before Breton's First
Manifesto. Breton's ecriture automatique was derived from the work of Richet.

elag

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Nov 4, 2002, 2:17:23 AM11/4/02
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All there is at the head of the thread is the above URL.

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