California Buoy
RegForte
about this...
What's up with the California Buoy being down for so long?
One would think it's in a key spot for swell prediction
and they would have gotten around to fixing it by now.
Budget cuts, maybe?
<http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=46059>
Station 46059 went adrift on 01/09/2009 and the last report
moored position was at 0700Z. The buoy was recovered on
04/11/2009. This buoy will be restored to service when
it can be worked into the schedule.
--
Reg
doc
> I thought some of the veterans on AS might know something
> about this...
>
> What's up with the California Buoy being down for so long?
> One would think it's in a key spot for swell prediction
> and they would have gotten around to fixing it by now.
Well - the thing is...
>
> Budget cuts, maybe?
Something like that. Y'see...
>
> <http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=46059>
>
> Station 46059 went adrift on 01/09/2009 and the last report
> moored position was at 0700Z. The buoy was recovered on
> 04/11/2009. This buoy will be restored to service when
> it can be worked into the schedule.
The problems are these:
First off, NOAA doesn't do the buoy setting, the Coasties do. And they
have 16 seagoing buoy tenders ( Juniper class, 225' long - see
http://www.uscg.mil/datasheet/225wlb.asp ) to cover ...well, basicly,
the world. Really, there's on in Guam.
The cutter Aspen out of San Francisco ( http://www.uscg.mil/d11/cgcAspen/)
has the San Diege -Oregon area, with about a gazillion buoys, aids to
navigation and what have you to deal with, plus 13 NOAA buoys to set,
service and replace.
Then....well, these days, the Coasties are stretched pretty thin. You
got the whole homeland security riff with checking out people who
might be bringing in stuff that'd go boom, you got your basic
interdictin' stuff coming across the borders that won't blow up....but
it might be blow, y'know? You got oil spills, you got bailing out
dimbulb yachties who shoulda stuck with rubber duckies in bathtubs,
you got chasing ( and boarding, and boarding, and boarding)
commercial fishing guys who are trying to stay off the dole, general
rescues, people smugglers, sending guys and coast guard vessels off to
the Red Sea and the Arabian Sea and...the list goes on.
And, give or take the several big high endurance cutters based out of
CA but mostly doing open ocean stuff or operating 'to the south'
'twixt, say, Columbia and the US border, it's the Aspen, one coastal
buoy tender ( the George Cobb out of San Pedro) and one 110' patrol
boat ( the Edisto) out of San Diego for the scut work. Note that I say
scut work, 'cos sending a big cutter on a scut job ain't gonna happen
when the skipper waaay outranks the guy skippering the buoy tender.
There are supposed to be more cutters on the way, bigger ones, so the
Aspen and the others can maybe go back to what they were built to
do....except the Deepwater program that was set up for that had a few
problems, as it was set up with basicly the contractors in charge, not
the Coast Guard, and that turned into a major fiasco (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Deepwater_System_Program and
sundry links from that) ...what happens when ya leave the rats to
guard the cheese and then lock out the cats, y'know?
So, lets just say that you might wanna be watching the satellite
weather for a bit....
And if ya see a coastie, don't grouse about buoys, buy him ( or her) a
beer. He might be my nephew, and in any event he or she could prolly
use one. He might even be an ASer.....
doc....
>
> --
> Reg
RegForte
> On Oct 21, 8:36 pm, RegForte <r...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>I thought some of the veterans on AS might know something
>>about this...
>>
>>What's up with the California Buoy being down for so long?
>>One would think it's in a key spot for swell prediction
>>and they would have gotten around to fixing it by now.
>
>
> Well - the thing is...
>
>>Budget cuts, maybe?
>
>
> Something like that. Y'see...
>
>><http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=46059>
>>
>>Station 46059 went adrift on 01/09/2009 and the last report
>>moored position was at 0700Z. The buoy was recovered on
>>04/11/2009. This buoy will be restored to service when
>>it can be worked into the schedule.
>
>
> The problems are these:
[snip indepth info]
I knew this was the right place to ask. Thanks, doc.
PS - A round of drinks for any coasties I come across
--
Reg
TonyM
> And if ya see a coastie, don't grouse about buoys, buy him ( or her) a
> beer. He might be my nephew, and in any event he or she could prolly
> use one. He might even be an ASer.....
>
Speaking of which...whatever happened to The Supreme Coastie?
Anyone heard from him?
And, while we're on the subject of buoys...
Does anyone know where to find info on Scripps CDIP buoys?
Specifically, a new buoy is apparently due to go in service right
in my back yard. The web page for it has been up for months,
but no data, yet. I tried hunting around the Scripps website. No luck.
Someone know the secret handshake?
--x--
Tony
doc
> "doc" wrote:
> > And if ya see a coastie, don't grouse about buoys,
>
> Anyone heard from him?
Uhmmm - he pops up now and then, here and elsewhere.
>
> And, while we're on the subject of buoys...
> Does anyone know where to find info on Scripps CDIP buoys?
> Specifically, a new buoy is apparently due to go in service right
> in my back yard. The web page for it has been up for months,
> but no data, yet. I tried hunting around the Scripps website. No luck.
> Someone know the secret handshake?
>
> --x--
> Tony
Why of course I do, though the Scripps buoy there was news to me - off
my old stomping and hell-raising grounds too. I wonder if the Yellow
Kittens is still there under another name....: and where the buoy is,
wayull, we brought up some interestin' stuff scalloping round there,
once opon a time.
http://cdip.ucsd.edu/?nav=recent&sub=observed&stn=154&stream=p1&xitem=pm
and
http://cdip.ucsd.edu/?nav=recent&sub=observed&stn=154&stream=p1&xitem=dwave
or if you prefer NOAA format
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=44097
I'm not surprised that you didn't see data earlier, near as I can tell
from the charts and stuff it came on line yesterday sometime.
That help any?
doc....the passwoid is 'swordfish'....
rodndtube
> On Oct 22, 5:25 pm, "TonyM" <tonybalo...@notreal.net> wrote:
>
> > "doc" wrote:
> > > And if ya see a coastie, don't grouse about buoys,
>
> > Speaking of which...whatever happened to The Supreme Coastie?
> > Anyone heard from him?
>
> Uhmmm - he pops up now and then, here and elsewhere.
>
>
>
> > And, while we're on the subject of buoys...
> > Does anyone know where to find info on Scripps CDIP buoys?
> > Specifically, a new buoy is apparently due to go in service right
> > in my back yard. The web page for it has been up for months,
> > but no data, yet. I tried hunting around the Scripps website. No luck.
> > Someone know the secret handshake?
>
> > --x--
> > Tony
>
> Why of course I do, though the Scripps buoy there was news to me - off
> my old stomping and hell-raising grounds too. I wonder if the Yellow
> Kittens is still there under another name....: and where the buoy is,
> wayull, we brought up some interestin' stuff scalloping round there,
> once opon a time.
>
> and
>
> http://cdip.ucsd.edu/?nav=recent⊂=observed&stn=154&stream=p1&xitem...
>
> or if you prefer NOAA format
>
> http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=44097
>
> I'm not surprised that you didn't see data earlier, near as I can tell
> from the charts and stuff it came on line yesterday sometime.
>
> That help any?
>
> doc....the passwoid is 'swordfish'....
Excellent!
Andy
>
> Speaking of which...whatever happened to The Supreme Coastie?
> Anyone heard from him?
>
Last seen in N. Fla
Andy
> The problems are these:
>
> First off, NOAA doesn't do the buoy setting, the Coasties do. And they
> - Show quoted text -
Two of ours are down, and the Cypress is right down the street.
I tried boozing up the coastie down the way, hell he just flys.
No use to me!
Think I'll let the dog poo in his yard.
doc
> Two of ours are down, and the Cypress is right down the street.
> I tried boozing up the coastie down the way, hell he just flys.
> No use to me!
>
> Think I'll let the dog poo in his yard.
Ahmmmmm - ya might wanna reconsider that. See, those guys can deliver
things like life rafts and pumps from altitude quite accurately, even
in miserable weather conditions. Returning a few kilos of used Alpo
with pinpoint accuracy wouldn't be difficult at all.
doc.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws5Xeu3BEQk&feature=related