Baby Boomers
Surff
we still have in this group? Foon, Mr. Tweed, Awe, Sandman, SurfGeo?
Surff
Mike Sullivan
"Surff" <surf...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Hey, I turned 60 a couple of weeks ago! So, how many baby boomers do
> we still have in this group? Foon, Mr. Tweed, Awe, Sandman, SurfGeo?
>
All of us.
Don't forget the canasta table.
turby
> Hey, I turned 60 a couple of weeks ago! So, how many baby boomers do
> we still have in this group? Foon, Mr. Tweed, Awe, Sandman, SurfGeo?
In case you hadn't figured it out, Usenet is not for the young and
immature. umm, well it's not for the young. The young don't have the
attention span required for Usenet. If it's not instant and less than
140 characters, they're bored.
Foon
Surff says...
>
>Hey, I turned 60 a couple of weeks ago! So, how many baby boomers do
>we still have in this group? Foon, Mr. Tweed, Awe, Sandman, SurfGeo?
>
>Surff
60 on Oct.6th, I'll be watching my mailbox for your card.
-foon
rodndtube
> In article <0c90cef9-a6c9-47bf-a2be-f4ce3467a...@b18g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
I'm still a few years out! Keep me young, boys!
todd w
Dennis
It was once expected the baby boomers would rewrite the rules for
society. Sadly, the baby boomers are becoming even more conservative.
I miss the 60's. Born in 1953 - on the cusp of the "Generation
Joneses" whom I'm not keeping up with.
I'm planning on surfing competitively and seeking sponsors. Billabong
and Quicksilver have turned me down. But it looks like I may by
landing AARP, Geritol, and Viagra. Can't wait to get the stickers on
my board.
Mike Sullivan
"Dennis" <jdmc...@msn.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 15, 3:03 am, Surff <surffo...@aol.com> wrote:
> Hey, I turned 60 a couple of weeks ago! So, how many baby boomers do
> we still have in this group? Foon, Mr. Tweed, Awe, Sandman, SurfGeo?
>
> Surff
> It was once expected the baby boomers would rewrite the rules for
> society. Sadly, the baby boomers are becoming even more conservative.
> I miss the 60's. Born in 1953 - on the cusp of the "Generation
> Joneses" whom I'm not keeping up with.
Turns out it was all about the style after all. No substance to
our generation, a bunch of shoppers and trend followers.
find a way to avoid vietnam then send some kid to Iraq.
That's us, the worst generation.
Todd. You are a boomer, 56 is dead center.
turby
wrote:
>
> Turns out it was all about the style after all. No substance to
> our generation, a bunch of shoppers and trend followers.
>
>
etc, but in reality, those people were a small percentage of the
population. Sure, there were many who wore long hair and smoked dope,
but the number who actually thought about, understood, and
participated in the counter culture movement was tiny compared to the
number of youth in the nation. The vast majority were just observers
like everybody else. Many of those who did understand and participate
are still fighting the good fight - mostly by thinking globally and
acting locally, which by its nature means out of the limelight. To
generalize about a movement that was only a tiny part of a generation
is misguided, I think.
Mike Sullivan
"turby" <keen...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bec3723f-0158-4e20...@q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
I wasn't talking about the movement, I was talking about the generation.
The talk of the day was that our generation was going to change the
world, and the peace movement, the protesting, etc, the rise in
environmentalism
was supposedly evidence of that.
We actually agree, the vast majority of us who were just observers are still
being led by our noses, wallets, bosses, or shiny things now. We voted
in
George Bush.
TonyM
> Hey, I turned 60 a couple of weeks ago! So, how many baby boomers do
> we still have in this group? Foon, Mr. Tweed, Awe, Sandman, SurfGeo?
>
I will be 60 in 4.5 months. First Sunday in January.
--x--
Tony
Feigel
[Default] On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 06:03:44 -0700 (PDT), Surff
<surf...@aol.com> made a point of writing:
>Hey, I turned 60 a couple of weeks ago! So, how many baby boomers do
>we still have in this group? Foon, Mr. Tweed, Awe, Sandman, SurfGeo?
>
>Surff
I'm too old to be considered a baby boomer.
--
"One thing I like about surfing, you don't have to win to be a winner." - Terry "Tubesteak" Tracey
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Wax-up and drop-in on Surfing's Golden Years: http://www.surfwriter.net
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
(PeteCresswell)
>We voted
>in
>George Bush.
A second time, no less.....
--
PeteCresswell
neosponge
> we still have in this group? Foon, Mr. Tweed, Awe, Sandman, SurfGeo?
Born in '64. I'm a late boomer.
neo
rodndtube
> how old to you need to be to be a baby boomer? i am 56,,,todd
It is not only about age, it is about whether you boom or not. Lately
I have kinda been a boomer!
rodndtube
wrote:
> "Dennis" <jdmcqu...@msn.com> wrote in message
I wouldn't say that it was a bust. Looking back an awful lot has
changed. The culture wars were won even though the battles continue.
rodndtube
I will turn 57 two days before Foon's b-day.
turby
wrote:
> "turby" <keens...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:bec3723f-0158-4e20...@q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 16, 9:36 am, "Mike Sullivan" <s...@slacSNIP.stanford.edu>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Turns out it was all about the style after all. No substance to
> > our generation, a bunch of shoppers and trend followers.
>
> > That's us, the worst generation.
>
> > I disagree. People talk about the Woodstock "generation," the hippies,
> > etc, but in reality, those people were a small percentage of the
> > population. Sure, there were many who wore long hair and smoked dope,
> > but the number who actually thought about, understood, and
> > participated in the counter culture movement was tiny compared to the
> > number of youth in the nation. The vast majority were just observers
> > like everybody else. Many of those who did understand and participate
> > are still fighting the good fight - mostly by thinking globally and
> > acting locally, which by its nature means out of the limelight. To
> > generalize about a movement that was only a tiny part of a generation
> > is misguided, I think.
>
> I wasn't talking about the movement, I was talking about the generation.
>
> The talk of the day was that our generation was going to change the
> world, and the peace movement, the protesting, etc, the rise in
> environmentalism
> was supposedly evidence of that.
Well that's just it. The media claimed that our generation was going
to change the world, but the people in the movement were complaining
even as it happened that they weren't being taken seriously. In '69,
when the largest political demonstration in the nation's history took
place on the Mall in DC, it was brushed off with virtually no
repercussions by the administration and the media. How could a
movement possibly have much effect years later when it was so ignored
at the time?
But here's an example of a similar situation: in the 30's, Communism
was alive and well in the US. Many people thought it was the wave of
the future. Yet decades later, no one pooh-poohs that generation as a
failure because of the failure of the Communist movement.
OTOH, a bible of the movement was the Whole Earth Catalog. There was
almost nothing in it about political organizing, or changing politics
or society on a national scale. It was almost completely about
personal change or change at a community level, accepting the fact
that politics on the large scale is inherently corrupt. (& I guess you
might say that's where we went wrong in not expanding the scope of
change.)
> We actually agree, the vast majority of us who were just observers are still
> being led by our noses, wallets, bosses, or shiny things now. We voted
> in
> George Bush.
_I_ didn't vote in either Bush. In the 70's, after I got out of the
Army, I was a hippie and hitch-hiked cross-country several times. The
people who voted for Bush were all those people I met who thought I
was weird for growing my hair. In the middle of the country then, I
was definitely in the minority, even among the youth. When the media
talks about our generation, why don't they mention those guys?
sully
The point was that whether or not we affected any change in our youth,
we were supposed to affect it as we became the people in power.
Our generation elected a man of the people, a real live pull up from
your bootstraps kind of guy in Clinton, but for as bright as he was
couldn't grow out of his dick. Then we turn around and put a prick in
there.
>
> But here's an example of a similar situation: in the 30's, Communism
> was alive and well in the US. Many people thought it was the wave of
> the future. Yet decades later, no one pooh-poohs that generation as a
> failure because of the failure of the Communist movement.
Communism had no broad appeal in the west. While the movement itself
had some intellectual weight, it never got sexy.
>
> OTOH, a bible of the movement was the Whole Earth Catalog. There was
> almost nothing in it about political organizing, or changing politics
> or society on a national scale. It was almost completely about
> personal change or change at a community level, accepting the fact
> that politics on the large scale is inherently corrupt. (& I guess you
> might say that's where we went wrong in not expanding the scope of
> change.)
And that notion was kidnapped by the right wing to support everything
corporate.
>
> > We actually agree, the vast majority of us who were just observers are still
> > being led by our noses, wallets, bosses, or shiny things now. We voted
> > in
> > George Bush.
>
> _I_ didn't vote in either Bush. In the 70's, after I got out of the
> Army, I was a hippie and hitch-hiked cross-country several times. The
> people who voted for Bush were all those people I met who thought I
> was weird for growing my hair. In the middle of the country then, I
> was definitely in the minority, even among the youth. When the media
> talks about our generation, why don't they mention those guys
I didn't vote for Bush either, but the majority of US did. We picked
a
guy who was symbol of everything we disliked 30 years ago, silver
spoon
fed phoney pretending to be a cowboy.
The majority of guys who came back from Vietnam looked at the Iraq war
as a lie. What's insidious and damning is that the guys who avoided
combat
then however they could cheerled Bush in 2003. This group has no
conscience, it is the absence of soul and critical thinking in our
generation.
Sheep.
In the 60s grew our hair long and flashed peace signs like everyone
else did, and in the 00's cheered us on to the great war. They claim
that they look back at that time and 'didn't know any better', while
ignoring he fact that they still don't know better, they've learned
nothing and are still flashing some sort of sign and looking around at
everybody else to see what that sign should be.
BTW, we barely eked out a slight majority in favor of Obama. It was
the Xers and our kids that put him in there, thank goodness.
tHe only thing our generation did right was the slogan "don't trust
anyone over 30'
THat about sums us up, don't trust us.
rodndtube
> > _I_ didn't vote in either Bush. In the 70's, after I got out of the
> > Army, I was a hippie and hitch-hiked cross-country several times. The
> > people who voted for Bush were all those people I met who thought I
> > was weird for growing my hair. In the middle of the country then, I
> > was definitely in the minority, even among the youth. When the media
> > talks about our generation, why don't they mention those guys
But the media and others did talk about those folks - the Silent
Majority.
Surff
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 16, 1:32 pm, "Mike Sullivan" <s...@slacSNIP.stanford.edu>
> > wrote:
>
> > > "turby" <keens...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > Turns out it was all about the style after all. No substance to
> > > > our generation, a bunch of shoppers and trend followers.
>
> > > > That's us, the worst generation.
>
> > > > I disagree. People talk about the Woodstock "generation," the hippies,
> > > > etc, but in reality, those people were a small percentage of the
> > > > population.
You are both right. During the movement my hair was to my shoulders
( damn, it looked nice! I want it back. )
I lived for a while in Boulder, Colo. with other "heads".
Does anyone remember that term? A "head" was a person that got high
and studied philosophy or "spirituality".
The "movement" was also just getting stoned, rapping for 3 straight
days about "life" and
not remembering anything that was talked about after your 2 day crash.
Surff
Dennis
Tax the churches. Legalize weed. Rebel because it's fun. Attica!
doc
> You are both right. During the movement my hair was to my shoulders
> ( damn, it looked nice! I want it back. )
> I lived for a while in Boulder, Colo. with other "heads".
> Does anyone remember that term? A "head" was a person that got high
> and studied philosophy or "spirituality".
> The "movement" was also just getting stoned, rapping for 3 straight
> days about "life" and
> not remembering anything that was talked about after your 2 day crash.
>
Ummmm- half right. As I recall, through a glass darkly, a head was
somebody who was either stoned or played the part, frequently.
Blathering about philosophy, yes. Organised study was beyond them. As
I later discovered.
But, fortunately, it was usually forgotten or else remembered far more
favorably than it deserved.
doc.....BA (phil) 1992
Surff
> On Sep 17, 6:49 pm, Surff <surffo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > You are both right. During the movement my hair was to my shoulders
> > ( damn, it looked nice! I want it back. )
> > I lived for a while in Boulder, Colo. with other "heads".
> > Does anyone remember that term? A "head" was a person that got high
> > and studied philosophy or "spirituality".
> > The "movement" was also just getting stoned, rapping for 3 straight
> > days about "life" and
> > not remembering anything that was talked about after your 2 day crash.
>
> > Surff-
>
> Ummmm- half right. As I recall, through a glass darkly, a head was
> somebody who was either stoned or played the part, frequently.
> Blathering about philosophy, yes. Organised study was beyond them. As
> I later discovered.
A friend of mine had a set of books about the Occult. At times he
would come downstairs with a conical hat on with the sun, moon and
stars on it and announce that he had to talk to his "master". He would
then lie on the couch for hours while he "traveled". This too was
forgotten after the speed ran out. :-)
> But, fortunately, it was usually forgotten or else remembered far more
> favorably than it deserved.
>
> doc.....BA (phil) 1992
Surff
doc
>
> A friend of mine had a set of books about the Occult. At times he
> would come downstairs with a conical hat on with the sun, moon and
> stars on it and announce that he had to talk to his "master". He would
> then lie on the couch for hours while he "traveled". This too was
> forgotten after the speed ran out. :-)
>
> > But, fortunately, it was usually forgotten or else remembered far more
> > favorably than it deserved.
>
> > doc.....BA (phil) 1992
>
>
(chuckling ) I do suspect that cat was anticipating Sir Terence David
John Pratchett, OBE. Arguably the funniest writer extant. I cannot
reccommend him too highly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discworld -
see Rincewind....
doc.... not Sam Vimes....
Foon
> Lately
>I have kinda been a boomer!
Cut back on the bean burritos and strong coffee!!
-Foon
rodndtube
Bulls eye! Kudos to Griz's special Texas Mexican bean sauce.
Mama Sus
(I'm only posting so this topic will come back up to the front and you
all will revisit your funny comments one more time. Go ahead -- read
the whole thread.)
Just to be clear ... *I* 'turned in my boomer status' in the early
90's when the cyberkids handed me "Generation X" by Coupland. Yes,
the moshing and young lovers were an incentive, but seriously, I saw
it coming. Our generation crashed and burned.
But we did it with flair.
So, Turbo, an artist full time, eh? Finally get to invite the girls
up to see your etchings! And, Dennis, good luck on your sponsorship
-- have you considered mortuaries? Todd, if you don't know you are,
then that is proof enough. Like Tony M. you are probably just in
denial. (Tony is all excited about being MONTHS younger!) Sully! - "no
conscience .... absence of soul and critical thinking" - geezlouise,
boy! Where's the sunshine? Get laid already. (and let the rest of us
know how it feels). Rodntube, awww, you are a boomer at heart (but
don't let that depress you, now!) . Surff! Who woulda known -
'stoned ... "spiritual" 3 day talks ... speed ... crashing ... - 0h!
Actually, that explains a lot. (Happy belated birthday! ;-) Doc ...
the philosopher? - or ... just still posting under the influence? And
Sponge, only a late boomer can really enjoy this spectacle (Is it
easier for you to feel as old as us by mangling your back/body so
much?). Feigel, sigh, it isn't nice to gloat. Was Pete echoing
that?! I am sure we could point at your generation ... if we weren't
so consumed with ourselves!
60 - Sixty - the big SIX OHHHH . hehehe. I'm a year behind you all!
So, I have time to play w/ this 'growing up' thing. I'm thinking of
taking up mime ... or puppetry... sand sculpture ... improv?
Something entirely foolish. It would only be fitting. And, yes, I am
painting another car .. with 'puffy paints' ... actually, the
grandkids are doing it for me ... uh, I mean, with me.
I haven't surfed in over a year. Sigh.
HUGS
Mama Sus
... still boycotting facebook; addicted to twitter (my generation,
lol)
TonyM
> Like Tony M. you are probably just in
> denial. (Tony is all excited about being MONTHS younger!)
>
How do you arrive at all that from what I wrote?
I simply stated: "I will be 60 in 4.5 months. First Sunday in January."
Where, in those few factual words, do you see any indication of
"denial" or excitement?
> I'm thinking of taking up mime ... or puppetry... sand sculpture ...
> improv? Something entirely foolish.
>
Well, I took up something entirely foolish in 1963. It's
called "surfing".
--x--
Tony
the_andr...@yahoo.com
> Hey, I turned 60 a couple of weeks ago! So, how many baby boomers do
> we still have in this group? Foon, Mr. Tweed, Awe, Sandman, SurfGeo?
GET OUT OF THE LINEUP OLD DUDE!
I'm the youngest of 5...they're all Boomers, I'm GenX.
a.
todd w
<<<Todd, if you don't know you are, then that is proof enough>>>>>
yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! i exist in alt.surfing!:-=)
soon to be 57, on november 19TH!!!!! you are right, i didn't know i was
a boomer!!!!! shoot, is it bad to be a boomer?? you mean if i am a
boomer and the best east coast surfer at any age,, Tony M is a boomer,
then that means me and the best surfer ever, Tony M, have something in
common!!:-) great news, eh, buddy,?????.......todd......ps.....just in
keeping with my KOOK status in alt.surfing, on 1/01/2110, i will be
THREE YEARS
SOBER!!!!!!:-)yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!
Mike Sullivan
"Mama Sus" <stoke...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Oh, you old futs were such *radicals*!! ;-)
>
> (I'm only posting so this topic will come back up to the front and you
> all will revisit your funny comments one more time. Go ahead -- read
> the whole thread.)
>
> Just to be clear ... *I* 'turned in my boomer status' in the early
> 90's when the cyberkids handed me "Generation X" by Coupland. Yes,
> the moshing and young lovers were an incentive, but seriously, I saw
> it coming. Our generation crashed and burned.
>
> But we did it with flair.
>
> So, Turbo, an artist full time, eh? Finally get to invite the girls
> up to see your etchings! And, Dennis, good luck on your sponsorship
> -- have you considered mortuaries? Todd, if you don't know you are,
> then that is proof enough. Like Tony M. you are probably just in
> denial. (Tony is all excited about being MONTHS younger!) Sully! - "no
> conscience .... absence of soul and critical thinking" - geezlouise,
> boy! Where's the sunshine? Get laid already. (and let the rest of us
> know how it feels). Rodntube, awww, you are a boomer at heart (but
lol. that turned out to be the point of it all anyway.
doc
What really ticks me off about Tony is that he's got five more years
than I do and at least three less inches of waistline....dammit. Life
is not fair.
So, ya old coot, what you doing for the grand occasion? Wander
thisaway round then and I might just spring for a whole entire sixpack
of your favorite tipple.
Hope you're well, my friend
doc...
TonyM
> What really ticks me off about Tony is that he's got five more years
> than I do and at least three less inches of waistline....
>
Chalk it up to genetics. It's not really a result of much effort on my part.
> So, ya old coot, what you doing for the grand occasion? Wander
> thisaway round then and I might just spring for a whole entire sixpack
> of your favorite tipple.
>
Thanks for the offer. I might take you up on that.
> Hope you're well, my friend
>
Could be better. Could be worse. Work's a bit tight
these days.
--x--
Tony
rodndtube
> Rodntube, awww, you are a boomer at heart (but
> don't let that depress you, now!) .
So the ladies have told me ;) (NOT!) I doesn't depress me. Age doesn't
bug me too much except when I can't bounce back from 3 hrs sleep for a
dawn patrol session or a heavy drinking session... oh to be a 40yo
again!
doc
> "doc" wrote:
> > What really ticks me off about Tony is that he's got five more years
> > than I do and at least three less inches of waistline....
>
> Chalk it up to genetics. It's not really a result of much effort on my part.
Wayull - those of us that cook, it's either we turn into balloons or
else stay kinda lean. I dunno, I seem to either be a chow hound or
else forget to eat, depends on the week.
>
> > So, ya old coot, what you doing for the grand occasion? Wander
> > thisaway round then and I might just spring for a whole entire sixpack
> > of your favorite tipple.
>
> Thanks for the offer. I might take you up on that.
De nada, you know where the place is and by then I may even have
heat.
>
> > Hope you're well, my friend
>
> Could be better. Could be worse. Work's a bit tight
> these days.
Know how that is. Nail banging I have scheduled here for the winter
boils down to a shingling job and a probably-won't-happen post and
beam barn. Got some stuff to do on the house to keep me from boredom,
which is fortunate.
doc...
doc
> Doc ...the philosopher? - or ... just still posting under the influence?
There's a difference?
doc...
daled...@gmail.com
belly program
any other expat surfers out there in similar position?
Nailed warm water barrels in front of my condo yesterday
It's off season so I was alone
Brian Mag
>
> I'm turning sixty in four months and am on a get in shape and lose the
> belly program
You need the Surfer's Diet (patent pending). The Surfer's Diet is
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