I thought some of the veterans on AS might know something about this...
What's up with the California Buoy being down for so long? One would think it's in a key spot for swell prediction and they would have gotten around to fixing it by now.
Station 46059 went adrift on 01/09/2009 and the last report moored position was at 0700Z. The buoy was recovered on 04/11/2009. This buoy will be restored to service when it can be worked into the schedule.
On Oct 21, 8:36 pm, RegForte <r...@nospam.com> wrote:
> I thought some of the veterans on AS might know something > about this...
> What's up with the California Buoy being down for so long? > One would think it's in a key spot for swell prediction > and they would have gotten around to fixing it by now.
> Station 46059 went adrift on 01/09/2009 and the last report > moored position was at 0700Z. The buoy was recovered on > 04/11/2009. This buoy will be restored to service when > it can be worked into the schedule.
The problems are these:
First off, NOAA doesn't do the buoy setting, the Coasties do. And they have 16 seagoing buoy tenders ( Juniper class, 225' long - see http://www.uscg.mil/datasheet/225wlb.asp ) to cover ...well, basicly, the world. Really, there's on in Guam.
The cutter Aspen out of San Francisco ( http://www.uscg.mil/d11/cgcAspen/) has the San Diege -Oregon area, with about a gazillion buoys, aids to navigation and what have you to deal with, plus 13 NOAA buoys to set, service and replace.
Then....well, these days, the Coasties are stretched pretty thin. You got the whole homeland security riff with checking out people who might be bringing in stuff that'd go boom, you got your basic interdictin' stuff coming across the borders that won't blow up....but it might be blow, y'know? You got oil spills, you got bailing out dimbulb yachties who shoulda stuck with rubber duckies in bathtubs, you got chasing ( and boarding, and boarding, and boarding) commercial fishing guys who are trying to stay off the dole, general rescues, people smugglers, sending guys and coast guard vessels off to the Red Sea and the Arabian Sea and...the list goes on.
And, give or take the several big high endurance cutters based out of CA but mostly doing open ocean stuff or operating 'to the south' 'twixt, say, Columbia and the US border, it's the Aspen, one coastal buoy tender ( the George Cobb out of San Pedro) and one 110' patrol boat ( the Edisto) out of San Diego for the scut work. Note that I say scut work, 'cos sending a big cutter on a scut job ain't gonna happen when the skipper waaay outranks the guy skippering the buoy tender.
There are supposed to be more cutters on the way, bigger ones, so the Aspen and the others can maybe go back to what they were built to do....except the Deepwater program that was set up for that had a few problems, as it was set up with basicly the contractors in charge, not the Coast Guard, and that turned into a major fiasco ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Deepwater_System_Program and sundry links from that) ...what happens when ya leave the rats to guard the cheese and then lock out the cats, y'know?
So, lets just say that you might wanna be watching the satellite weather for a bit....
And if ya see a coastie, don't grouse about buoys, buy him ( or her) a beer. He might be my nephew, and in any event he or she could prolly use one. He might even be an ASer.....
doc wrote: > On Oct 21, 8:36 pm, RegForte <r...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>I thought some of the veterans on AS might know something >>about this...
>>What's up with the California Buoy being down for so long? >>One would think it's in a key spot for swell prediction >>and they would have gotten around to fixing it by now.
>>Station 46059 went adrift on 01/09/2009 and the last report >>moored position was at 0700Z. The buoy was recovered on >>04/11/2009. This buoy will be restored to service when >>it can be worked into the schedule.
> The problems are these:
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I knew this was the right place to ask. Thanks, doc.
PS - A round of drinks for any coasties I come across
"doc" wrote: > And if ya see a coastie, don't grouse about buoys, buy him ( or her) a > beer. He might be my nephew, and in any event he or she could prolly > use one. He might even be an ASer.....
Speaking of which...whatever happened to The Supreme Coastie? Anyone heard from him?
And, while we're on the subject of buoys... Does anyone know where to find info on Scripps CDIP buoys? Specifically, a new buoy is apparently due to go in service right in my back yard. The web page for it has been up for months, but no data, yet. I tried hunting around the Scripps website. No luck. Someone know the secret handshake?
On Oct 22, 5:25 pm, "TonyM" <tonybalo...@notreal.net> wrote:
> "doc" wrote: > > And if ya see a coastie, don't grouse about buoys,
> Speaking of which...whatever happened to The Supreme Coastie? > Anyone heard from him?
Uhmmm - he pops up now and then, here and elsewhere.
> And, while we're on the subject of buoys... > Does anyone know where to find info on Scripps CDIP buoys? > Specifically, a new buoy is apparently due to go in service right > in my back yard. The web page for it has been up for months, > but no data, yet. I tried hunting around the Scripps website. No luck. > Someone know the secret handshake?
> --x-- > Tony
Why of course I do, though the Scripps buoy there was news to me - off my old stomping and hell-raising grounds too. I wonder if the Yellow Kittens is still there under another name....: and where the buoy is, wayull, we brought up some interestin' stuff scalloping round there, once opon a time.
> On Oct 22, 5:25 pm, "TonyM" <tonybalo...@notreal.net> wrote:
> > "doc" wrote: > > > And if ya see a coastie, don't grouse about buoys,
> > Speaking of which...whatever happened to The Supreme Coastie? > > Anyone heard from him?
> Uhmmm - he pops up now and then, here and elsewhere.
> > And, while we're on the subject of buoys... > > Does anyone know where to find info on Scripps CDIP buoys? > > Specifically, a new buoy is apparently due to go in service right > > in my back yard. The web page for it has been up for months, > > but no data, yet. I tried hunting around the Scripps website. No luck. > > Someone know the secret handshake?
> > --x-- > > Tony
> Why of course I do, though the Scripps buoy there was news to me - off > my old stomping and hell-raising grounds too. I wonder if the Yellow > Kittens is still there under another name....: and where the buoy is, > wayull, we brought up some interestin' stuff scalloping round there, > once opon a time.
On Oct 21, 10:21 pm, doc <waterman...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The problems are these:
> First off, NOAA doesn't do the buoy setting, the Coasties do. And they > have 16 seagoing buoy tenders ( Juniper class, 225' long - seehttp://www.uscg.mil/datasheet/225wlb.asp) to cover ...well, basicly, the world. Really, there's on in Guam. > - Show quoted text -
Two of ours are down, and the Cypress is right down the street. I tried boozing up the coastie down the way, hell he just flys. No use to me!
On Oct 26, 1:47 pm, Andy <anegative_entr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Two of ours are down, and the Cypress is right down the street. > I tried boozing up the coastie down the way, hell he just flys. > No use to me!
> Think I'll let the dog poo in his yard.
Ahmmmmm - ya might wanna reconsider that. See, those guys can deliver things like life rafts and pumps from altitude quite accurately, even in miserable weather conditions. Returning a few kilos of used Alpo with pinpoint accuracy wouldn't be difficult at all.