Are you researching more paipo stuff? Do you want to find a
collector in FL, to gain access to the mags 'hands on'?
I can't think of any collector connections down that way,
at the moment.
Maybe try emailing Joe Tabler at surfbooks.com, or James
Frangella at surfwarez.com . One of those guys might know
a collector down that way. They are both ephemera dealers.
--x--
Tony
Thanks, Tony. I might even have to make a trip up your way since you
have a rather outstanding collection, correct? Yes, a group of us have
embarked on a paipo research mission -- started up late last Spring or
early Summer. We have been doing interviews (via in-person, phone and
e-mail) and researching books and pubs. However, it has been tough, or
impossible, to get many items via Inter Library Loan.
I know. I've seen posts by B Greene (?) on Swaylocks, looking for
info. That's why I guessed the intent of your inquiry.
Didn't I send you some scans a few years ago? Tell me what you
have, so I don't give you duplicates or waste time with stuff that's
already done.
I dig through old mags pretty often for amusement or research of
old info. I'll try to remember to keep an eye out for on topic things.
--x--
Tony
As I said earlier Rock Taco is now the northern branch of Dos Amigos,
new place in the Lowe's Plaza called the Scrambled Egg. Great Benedict
and lots of choices. Still like Nippon Thai, the duck noodle soup is
pricey but good. Had lunch in a place called Bonackers on Eau Gallie
where Gators used to be. Seafood, has a central bar that might draw
action. Looks better for dinner than lunch.
Will do Tony. I will wait for some targeted needs and will get in
touch. Thanks!
Yes, that is Bob Green - he has also posted on AS a little over the
years.
Jack, do you know of any long time paipo people in the area -
builders, riders, etc.? Also, any leads on access to surfing books,
publications, and magazines from the late-50s through the early-70s?
Thanks!
I am pretty out of the surf scene here, 74 is not an age to play in
the waves with the people who come to Brevard. My knees put me ashore
long ago. I would think Balsa Bill's 1/ or Da Kine would have someone
who knew someone but not much more. Maybe Eastern Surf
Easternsurf.com. or Surf Gallery 2/
2/ http://www.genieknows.com/b/the-surf-gallery-indialantic.-florida-indialantic-fl-27701128.
Bill Yerkes ( Balsa Bill) has definitely been around/in the surf biz
for long enough to have quite a collection. I knew him back when as
the Sundek guy, when we carried Sundeks, and Cape Cod was pretty much
the tail end of the East Coast surf sales rep's itinerary. Considering
he had ads in the major and minor publications and such, he very
likely hung onto a lot.
Get hold of him via the above link: he's a pretty accessible cat, and
he might take an interest. Certainly can't hurt to ask and far better
than, say, showing up on the doorstep.
hope that's of use
doc...
Bill posts as Balsabill on swaylocks. I think he may have seen the
inquiries from Bgreen already. Not sure if he's in Fla anymore. I
think he might be living out West, now.
--x--
Tony
Still has a store here in Sat Beach and an Indialantic address. The
people at the store will know.
Good suggestion on contacting Balsa Bill. We've communicated a little
over the years because of his time down in PR, and I have stopped by
his shop on several occassions. I will drop him a line.
Do you have the Indialntic address?
I've been in contact with Balsa Bill and he tells me he has scant
paipo-related knowledge.
I presume you have done the google search?
Ohhhkaaay - prolly a stoopid question, but have you asked Nels at
vagabondsurf.com ? He hasn't put up a lot of new stuff of late, but he
does keep his eye on that particular ball.... if he doesn't have it,
mebbe he's got a better idea of who does.
Hope that's of use
doc...
I just pulled out a book my wife gave a few Christmases ago, Surfing,
Vintage Surfing Graphics edited by Jim Heimann. His preface, Goin'
with the flow, states that Duke Kahanamoku founded the Hui Nalu in
1905. This might be one possibility for old paipo information.
http://www.huinalucanoeclub.com/
http://www.legendarysurfers.com/surf/legends/ls18.shtml#1930s%20Paipo%20Beginnings
A clue from those, paipo and magazine on google
http://mypaipoboards.org/mags/magazines.shtml
http://weareh2o.com/weareh2o/drifting/spring2006/totalinvolvement.htm
http://www.surfresearch.com.au/00000172.html
http://www.surfresearch.com.au/00000335.html
http://www.dailystoke.com/surfing-pop-culture/surfboard-shapin-spotted-surf-designs-by-daniel/
etc.
> htttp://mypaipoboards.org/mags/magazines.shtml
> http://mypaipoboards.org/
>
Nice work, Jack. Scroll down to the lower right of those pages
and you'll see this:
"This web site is hosted and maintained by
rodNDtube.com and MyPaipoBoards.org
eMail me at: rodNDtube "
You just referred the guy to his own website.
--x--
Tony
Exactly, I just sent him an email apologizing for that.
No apologies needed! I have those moments myself... all too
frequently ;)
Geoff Cater (Pods for Primates aka surfresearch) has done some great
work. One of our research collaborators (Bob Green) in Australia has
been in touch with Geoff - his info & resources are excellent.
P.S. http://weareh2o.com/weareh2o/drifting/spring2006/totalinvolvement.htm
-- the author, Logjammer, passed away suddenly two years ago. Good man.
The cite with Rabbit Kekai and a couple of others seemed to feel the
1930s were the "start" of the bellyboard. I know in the 40s they were
not hip with the 16 foot redwood crowd that made up my father's Y club.
Seems like the ol' kipapa style of riding a bellyboard / paipo /
lamaroo / etc. / has been around for ever and was ridden in places
that the erect form of board riding never quite caught on... West
Africa, New Zealand, Peru and other places. Like the erect boarding
style its popularity has ebbed and flowed like the tides. As we piece
together a history and timeline maybe the record will become a bit
clearer, and maybe not. It does seem that boards of various types were
being ridden on the shores of South Africa, England, SW Asia, North
Carolina and Hawaii back in the 1920s, e.g., Bodyboarding North
Carolina, ca. 1920s:
http://mypaipoboards.org/image_p/1920s-wrightsville-NC_LegendarySurfers.jpg
or http://tinyurl.com/yhvsrue
Jack, we should get together for a coffee or beer (and pick up where
Sully & Craig left off, AS points!!!).
I am in the book, as it were.
>Jack, we should get together for a coffee or beer (and pick up where
>Sully & Craig left off, AS points!!!).
I hear an old fart from Cape Cod may be heading our way this winter/Spring.
We should dust off the welcome mat.
-Foon
FWIW, I have a copy of Petersen's Surfing Yearbook #2, published in
1965. There are 4 pages of bellyboarding, with pix by Leroy Grannis,
Greg Noll, and Doug Kilgour. There's a photo by Noll of two
bodyboarders on a big Waimea wave, as well as some at Salt Creek of
Dick Wandrocke, George Farquar, and Pete Howorth (sp?). You can see
their style, but it's real hard to see what kind of boards they were
riding.
There are also a few pages on mat riding. Four guys doing stand up
rides, and one doing a drop-knee hanging five. And there are some pix
by Ron Church of Karen Kirk, a girl I used to know back then. Ah yes.
Ancient history.
Salt Creek, Dana Point, gone.
I will have to grab a scanner and get those pages of the
bellyboarding, and the mat riding as well. And advertisements?
Heh. No ads. I guess the $2 price covered the cost of publishing.
I dunno where you're going to find a copy. The binding is so fragile,
I'm afraid to open it flat for a scanner.
Ask Tabler.
http://s393.photobucket.com/albums/pp16/Lamaroos/?action=view¤t=psy2pg3.jpg&newest=1
and
http://www.surfwarez.com/ProductDetails.aspx?PID=545&c=2
and
http://www.hawaiiansurfauction.com/2003/silent.htm
and
http://www.surf.whelanworks.co.uk/surfbookindex.htm
and others at Petersen's Surfing Yearbook #2, 1965 on google