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rodndtube

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Nov 3, 2009, 7:47:22 PM11/3/09
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Gonna spend a little time during mid-November along the Space Coast -
fill me in on the best eats and drinks along the coast. Surf? Hope so!
Also, I'm interested in looking over some 60s/early-70s surf magazines
if any one can point me in the right direction.

TonyM

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Nov 3, 2009, 8:03:12 PM11/3/09
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"rodndtube" wrote:
> I'm interested in looking over some 60s/early-70s surf magazines
> if any one can point me in the right direction.
>

Are you researching more paipo stuff? Do you want to find a
collector in FL, to gain access to the mags 'hands on'?
I can't think of any collector connections down that way,
at the moment.
Maybe try emailing Joe Tabler at surfbooks.com, or James
Frangella at surfwarez.com . One of those guys might know
a collector down that way. They are both ephemera dealers.

--x--
Tony


rodndtube

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Nov 4, 2009, 10:50:01 AM11/4/09
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Thanks, Tony. I might even have to make a trip up your way since you
have a rather outstanding collection, correct? Yes, a group of us have
embarked on a paipo research mission -- started up late last Spring or
early Summer. We have been doing interviews (via in-person, phone and
e-mail) and researching books and pubs. However, it has been tough, or
impossible, to get many items via Inter Library Loan.

TonyM

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Nov 4, 2009, 1:09:39 PM11/4/09
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"rodndtube" wrote:
> Yes, a group of us have
> embarked on a paipo research mission
>

I know. I've seen posts by B Greene (?) on Swaylocks, looking for
info. That's why I guessed the intent of your inquiry.
Didn't I send you some scans a few years ago? Tell me what you
have, so I don't give you duplicates or waste time with stuff that's
already done.
I dig through old mags pretty often for amusement or research of
old info. I'll try to remember to keep an eye out for on topic things.

--x--
Tony


Jack Linthicum

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Nov 4, 2009, 3:24:02 PM11/4/09
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As I said earlier Rock Taco is now the northern branch of Dos Amigos,
new place in the Lowe's Plaza called the Scrambled Egg. Great Benedict
and lots of choices. Still like Nippon Thai, the duck noodle soup is
pricey but good. Had lunch in a place called Bonackers on Eau Gallie
where Gators used to be. Seafood, has a central bar that might draw
action. Looks better for dinner than lunch.

http://www.bonackerseafood.com/

rodndtube

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Nov 5, 2009, 11:07:06 AM11/5/09
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Will do Tony. I will wait for some targeted needs and will get in
touch. Thanks!

Yes, that is Bob Green - he has also posted on AS a little over the
years.

rodndtube

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Nov 5, 2009, 11:11:14 AM11/5/09
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Jack, do you know of any long time paipo people in the area -
builders, riders, etc.? Also, any leads on access to surfing books,
publications, and magazines from the late-50s through the early-70s?
Thanks!

Jack Linthicum

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Nov 5, 2009, 12:47:47 PM11/5/09
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I am pretty out of the surf scene here, 74 is not an age to play in
the waves with the people who come to Brevard. My knees put me ashore
long ago. I would think Balsa Bill's 1/ or Da Kine would have someone
who knew someone but not much more. Maybe Eastern Surf
Easternsurf.com. or Surf Gallery 2/

2/ http://www.genieknows.com/b/the-surf-gallery-indialantic.-florida-indialantic-fl-27701128.

1/ http://www.balsabill.com/shop2.htm

doc

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Nov 5, 2009, 1:55:49 PM11/5/09
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On Nov 5, 12:47 pm, Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net>
> 2/http://www.genieknows.com/b/the-surf-gallery-indialantic.-florida-ind....
>
> 1/http://www.balsabill.com/shop2.htm- Hide quoted text -
>

Bill Yerkes ( Balsa Bill) has definitely been around/in the surf biz
for long enough to have quite a collection. I knew him back when as
the Sundek guy, when we carried Sundeks, and Cape Cod was pretty much
the tail end of the East Coast surf sales rep's itinerary. Considering
he had ads in the major and minor publications and such, he very
likely hung onto a lot.

Get hold of him via the above link: he's a pretty accessible cat, and
he might take an interest. Certainly can't hurt to ask and far better
than, say, showing up on the doorstep.

hope that's of use

doc...

TonyM

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Nov 5, 2009, 2:00:20 PM11/5/09
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"doc" wrote:
> Bill Yerkes ( Balsa Bill) has definitely been around/in the surf biz
> for long enough to have quite a collection.
> Get hold of him via the above link: he's a pretty accessible cat, and
> he might take an interest. Certainly can't hurt to ask and far better
> than, say, showing up on the doorstep.
>

Bill posts as Balsabill on swaylocks. I think he may have seen the
inquiries from Bgreen already. Not sure if he's in Fla anymore. I
think he might be living out West, now.

--x--
Tony


Jack Linthicum

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Nov 5, 2009, 2:09:13 PM11/5/09
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Still has a store here in Sat Beach and an Indialantic address. The
people at the store will know.

rodndtube

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Nov 6, 2009, 10:35:14 AM11/6/09
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On Nov 5, 2:00 pm, "TonyM" <tonybalo...@notreal.net> wrote:

Good suggestion on contacting Balsa Bill. We've communicated a little
over the years because of his time down in PR, and I have stopped by
his shop on several occassions. I will drop him a line.

Jack Linthicum

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Nov 6, 2009, 10:56:08 AM11/6/09
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Do you have the Indialntic address?

rodndtube

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Nov 7, 2009, 11:09:08 AM11/7/09
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On Nov 6, 10:56 am, Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net>
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I've been in contact with Balsa Bill and he tells me he has scant
paipo-related knowledge.

Jack Linthicum

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Nov 7, 2009, 11:16:33 AM11/7/09
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I presume you have done the google search?

doc

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Nov 10, 2009, 12:39:01 AM11/10/09
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On Nov 7, 11:09 am, rodndtube <rodndt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've been in contact with Balsa Bill and he tells me he has scant
> paipo-related knowledge.-
>

Ohhhkaaay - prolly a stoopid question, but have you asked Nels at
vagabondsurf.com ? He hasn't put up a lot of new stuff of late, but he
does keep his eye on that particular ball.... if he doesn't have it,
mebbe he's got a better idea of who does.

Hope that's of use

doc...

Jack Linthicum

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:18:35 AM11/10/09
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I just pulled out a book my wife gave a few Christmases ago, Surfing,
Vintage Surfing Graphics edited by Jim Heimann. His preface, Goin'
with the flow, states that Duke Kahanamoku founded the Hui Nalu in
1905. This might be one possibility for old paipo information.
http://www.huinalucanoeclub.com/

http://www.legendarysurfers.com/surf/legends/ls18.shtml#1930s%20Paipo%20Beginnings

Jack Linthicum

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:33:12 AM11/10/09
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TonyM

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Nov 10, 2009, 11:01:10 AM11/10/09
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"Jack Linthicum" wrote:
> A clue from those, paipo and magazine on google

> htttp://mypaipoboards.org/mags/magazines.shtml
> http://mypaipoboards.org/
>

Nice work, Jack. Scroll down to the lower right of those pages
and you'll see this:

"This web site is hosted and maintained by
rodNDtube.com and MyPaipoBoards.org
eMail me at: rodNDtube "

You just referred the guy to his own website.

--x--
Tony


Jack Linthicum

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Nov 10, 2009, 11:03:42 AM11/10/09
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Exactly, I just sent him an email apologizing for that.

rodndtube

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Nov 10, 2009, 11:50:12 AM11/10/09
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On Nov 10, 11:03 am, Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

No apologies needed! I have those moments myself... all too
frequently ;)

Geoff Cater (Pods for Primates aka surfresearch) has done some great
work. One of our research collaborators (Bob Green) in Australia has
been in touch with Geoff - his info & resources are excellent.

rodndtube

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Nov 10, 2009, 11:54:27 AM11/10/09
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On Nov 10, 11:03 am, Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

P.S. http://weareh2o.com/weareh2o/drifting/spring2006/totalinvolvement.htm
-- the author, Logjammer, passed away suddenly two years ago. Good man.

Jack Linthicum

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Nov 10, 2009, 12:24:47 PM11/10/09
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On Nov 10, 11:54 am, rodndtube <rodndt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 10, 11:03 am, Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 10, 11:01 am, "TonyM" <tonybalo...@notreal.net> wrote:
>
> > > "Jack Linthicum" wrote:
> > > > A clue from those, paipo and magazine on google
> > > > htttp://mypaipoboards.org/mags/magazines.shtml
> > > >http://mypaipoboards.org/
>
> > > Nice work, Jack. Scroll down to the lower right of those pages
> > > and you'll see this:
>
> > > "This web site is hosted and maintained by
> > > rodNDtube.com and MyPaipoBoards.org
> > > eMail me at: rodNDtube "
>
> > > You just referred the guy to his own website.
>
> > > --x--
> > > Tony
>
> > Exactly, I just sent him an email apologizing for that.
>
> P.S.http://weareh2o.com/weareh2o/drifting/spring2006/totalinvolvement.htm

> -- the author, Logjammer, passed away suddenly two years ago. Good man.

The cite with Rabbit Kekai and a couple of others seemed to feel the
1930s were the "start" of the bellyboard. I know in the 40s they were
not hip with the 16 foot redwood crowd that made up my father's Y club.

rodndtube

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Nov 11, 2009, 1:28:55 AM11/11/09
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On Nov 10, 12:24 pm, Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net>

Seems like the ol' kipapa style of riding a bellyboard / paipo /
lamaroo / etc. / has been around for ever and was ridden in places
that the erect form of board riding never quite caught on... West
Africa, New Zealand, Peru and other places. Like the erect boarding
style its popularity has ebbed and flowed like the tides. As we piece
together a history and timeline maybe the record will become a bit
clearer, and maybe not. It does seem that boards of various types were
being ridden on the shores of South Africa, England, SW Asia, North
Carolina and Hawaii back in the 1920s, e.g., Bodyboarding North
Carolina, ca. 1920s:
http://mypaipoboards.org/image_p/1920s-wrightsville-NC_LegendarySurfers.jpg
or http://tinyurl.com/yhvsrue

Jack, we should get together for a coffee or beer (and pick up where
Sully & Craig left off, AS points!!!).

Jack Linthicum

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Nov 11, 2009, 6:20:53 AM11/11/09
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> Carolina, ca. 1920s:http://mypaipoboards.org/image_p/1920s-wrightsville-NC_LegendarySurfe...
> orhttp://tinyurl.com/yhvsrue

>
> Jack, we should get together for a coffee or beer (and pick up where
> Sully & Craig left off, AS points!!!).

I am in the book, as it were.

Foon

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Nov 11, 2009, 9:53:31 AM11/11/09
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rodndtube says...

>Jack, we should get together for a coffee or beer (and pick up where
>Sully & Craig left off, AS points!!!).

I hear an old fart from Cape Cod may be heading our way this winter/Spring.
We should dust off the welcome mat.

-Foon

turby

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Nov 11, 2009, 5:32:05 PM11/11/09
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On Nov 3, 4:47 pm, rodndtube <rodndt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gonna spend a little time during mid-November along the Space Coast -
> fill me in on the best eats and drinks along the coast. Surf? Hope so!
> Also, I'm interested in looking over some 60s/early-70s surf magazines
> if any one can point me in the right direction.

FWIW, I have a copy of Petersen's Surfing Yearbook #2, published in
1965. There are 4 pages of bellyboarding, with pix by Leroy Grannis,
Greg Noll, and Doug Kilgour. There's a photo by Noll of two
bodyboarders on a big Waimea wave, as well as some at Salt Creek of
Dick Wandrocke, George Farquar, and Pete Howorth (sp?). You can see
their style, but it's real hard to see what kind of boards they were
riding.

There are also a few pages on mat riding. Four guys doing stand up
rides, and one doing a drop-knee hanging five. And there are some pix
by Ron Church of Karen Kirk, a girl I used to know back then. Ah yes.
Ancient history.

Jack Linthicum

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Nov 11, 2009, 5:57:53 PM11/11/09
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Salt Creek, Dana Point, gone.

rodndtube

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Nov 12, 2009, 6:20:54 AM11/12/09
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On Nov 11, 5:32 pm, turby <keens...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I will have to grab a scanner and get those pages of the
bellyboarding, and the mat riding as well. And advertisements?

turby

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Nov 12, 2009, 1:23:27 PM11/12/09
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Heh. No ads. I guess the $2 price covered the cost of publishing.
I dunno where you're going to find a copy. The binding is so fragile,
I'm afraid to open it flat for a scanner.
Ask Tabler.

Jack Linthicum

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Nov 12, 2009, 1:45:40 PM11/12/09
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