Not buying it
Tricky Terrorists Admit Terrorizing
By Pareene, 2:05 PM on Mon Dec 8 2008, 1,633 views
In the battle against global terror, ridiculously childish reverse
psychology remains one of the most powerful weapons. It is used both
by the enemy—al-Qaeda totally doesn't want you to reelect Bush, that
would be terrible for them!—and, increasingly, by us. So five
Guantanamo detainees have all confessed to plotting 9/11, but we
totally aren't accepting their confessions, at all. Because that's
just what they want.
See this is how prosecuting alleged terrorists works: we hold and
torture them overseas, without bail, for years, hoping for actionable
intelligence, maybe, even if many of them are innocent, and even
though torture is not a reliable means of securing actionable
intelligence, and then we have farcical military tribunals for some of
them, but they are not allowed to plead guilty at these tribunals,
because then we'd have to execute them, and then they'd become
martyrs.
Not even the 9/11 widows will accept their guilty pleas!
Alice Hoagland, the mother of Mark Bingham, who was killed in the
Sept. 11 terror attacks, is among a group of relatives of victoms who
for the first time were permitted to view proceedings here on Monday.
She said she was pleased that the military judge had not rushed to
allow the guilty pleas to be entered.
“I’m really proud,” she said, “that the commission is not taking the
bait, and proceeding in its slow and thoughtful and deliberate way.”
Yes, we can't give them what they want, which is to be punished for
the crimes they've admitted to committing......
Meanwhile the detainees we don't have tribunals for are just kinda
stuck there, because if we released them, they'd go act like the
terrorists we thought they were when we picked them up, because now
they are pretty pissed off at America, because of the torturing.
Never forget 9/11.
Read More: not buying it, never forget, die, you bastards
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4 replies hypocriteoath
2:12 PM
Why exactly is Tupac explaining the big bang theory in that GIF?
hypocriteoath Why exactly is Tupac explaining the big bang theory
in... 4 replies by MidTwix, Pareene, hypocriteoath ...
Nic Fit
2:13 PM @hypocriteoath: And why is Graydon Carter as The Joker in the
lead image?
Nic Fit @ hypocriteoath : And why is Graydon Carter as The Joker...
MidTwix
2:18 PM
@hypocriteoath: I thought that was some new fingerbang technique...
MidTwix @ hypocriteoath : I thought that was some new fingerbang...
Pareene
2:28 PM @hypocriteoath: [gawker.com]
Pareene @ hypocriteoath : [gawker.com] hypocriteoath
3:00 PM
@Pareene: I remember that! NOW I totally get it. still funny either
way!
hypocriteoath @ Pareene : I remember that! NOW I totally get it.
still...
2:13 PM
Cheap Shot
2:13 PM Ah the 9/11 kin. They just never go away do they?
Cheap Shot Ah the 9/11 kin. They just never go away do they?
2:14 PM
braak
2:14 PM Christ, no wonder no one takes us seriously.
braak Christ, no wonder no one takes us seriously.
2:18 PM
3 replies katastic
2:18 PM
What on EARTH is that clip from?
katastic What on EARTH is that clip from? 3 replies by ffmusicdj,
jbwan, ElvisWorley
ffmusicdj
2:21 PM @katastic: some show on fox?
ffmusicdj @ katastic : some show on fox? jbwan
2:29 PM @ffmusicdj: Prison break, I think, or Hannity and Colmes. I
can't tell.
jbwan @ ffmusicdj : Prison break, I think, or Hannity and...
ElvisWorley
2:34 PM
Sarah Connor Chronicles, Mondays on FOX. (Yes, I am a dork). Context:
Sarah and John Connor travelled in time from 1997 to present day,
thus, missing 9/11. In order to meet an old pre-1997 friend to get
fake ids, Sarah had to go to a house full of latino gangbangers.
There, the subject of 9/11 came up, and the clip is the gang members
vivid description of the planes hitting the towers.@katastic:
ElvisWorley Sarah Connor Chronicles, Mondays on FOX. (Yes, I am
a...
2:19 PM
stew
2:19 PM Ok, um, are there still terrorists? I thought everything was
cool now on account of we elected a black guy whose middle name is
"Hussein."
stew Ok, um, are there still terrorists? I thought everything...
2:46 PM
Master Billy
2:46 PM I can't stop watching that gif. I'm not enjoying it, but I
can't stop watching it. Now I'm going to miss class. Thanks, Gawker.
Master Billy I can't stop watching that gif. I'm not enjoying
it,...
2:58 PM
The Real JR
2:58 PM Best show .gif ever. lol Sarah Conner and the Crips.
The Real JR Best show .gif ever. lol Sarah Conner and the Crips.
3:11 PM
JAH
3:11 PM Nothing to see here...
Just move along....
To Mumbai...
Or Bombay depending on the type of gin you drink...
JAH Nothing to see here... Just move along.... To...
3:17 PM
Multiphasic
3:17 PM Of course I'll never forget 9/11. It's where I get my
Slurpees.
Multiphasic Of course I'll never forget 9/11. It's where I get
my...
3:40 PM
1 reply The One
3:40 PM Actually, we've gotten plenty of actionable information from
the likes of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and his equally assholic nephew
Ramzi bin al Shibh. Nascent terror cells on US soil were busted, and
multiple plots to attack were thwarted.
The One Actually, we've gotten plenty of actionable information... 1
reply by braak
braak
4:25 PM @The One: Like which ones? That deeply idiotic one where they
thought they could blow up the gas pipeline that runs under Brooklyn?
Or the one where the guys thought they were going to deliver pizza to
Fort Dix and then shoot their way out?
Are we winning the war on terror, or just doing these guys a favor by
rounding up their morons for them?
braak @ The One : Like which ones? That deeply idiotic one...
3:52 PM
Aidan_
3:52 PM It's like some Kafkaesque perpetual motion device.
Aidan_ It's like some Kafkaesque perpetual motion device.
5:05 PM
Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith
5:05 PM There's a book sale going on at my local library, and
yesterday when I was checking it out, I came across a childrens book
about terrorism (published post 9/11, in the United States). I was
flicking through for mention of non-American and non-Israel based
terrorism (namely Ireland; it's mentioned once, in passing, and
nothing is explained), when I came across the chapter: Terrorists: not
always from the Middle East. I don't know, it sort of disturbed me a
bit that their would even have to be a chapter differentiating the
ethnicity of various terrorists.
Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith There's a book sale going on at my local
library, and...
5:25 PM
caligulash
5:25 PM There are many definitions of "terrorism" but most are careful
to distinguish it from various state actions (such as war); hence,
only non-state actors are its perpetrators. The second component of
the definition focuses on intentions by terrorists (i) to create fear
(ii) in support of an ideological goal (iii) by targeting non-
combatants.
In other words, the term is inapplicable to the alleged best examples
of recent "terrorist actions": In most of these cases reasonable
suspicion exist that those acts may in fact be false flag massacres
perpetrated by state actors, not some non-state would be terrorist
entities; they may for the most part be Western (or Western by proxy)
intelligence operations.
What is called "terrorism" therefore may just be war by other means
for the sake of imperial expansion.
caligulash There are many definitions of "terrorism" but most
are...
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