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fyf...@gmail.com

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Aug 19, 2008, 9:18:17 PM8/19/08
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To suggest that acupuncture operation is an effective treatment for
tinnitus, at least for a certain type of tinnitus patients, is too
'ethnic' for the folks around in the English speaking ngs and thus is
seldom brought up by individuals for fear of being looked upon as
being anti-social.

In the name of whose holy god any of you wants me to pledge upon, it
was an acupuncture operation performed in Vancouver of Canada that
finally released me of my maddening illness. It was an illness that
consisted of a combination of high-pitched sound and nerve
discomfort. I don't know what the relationship between the sound and
the nerve discomfort was but I was told a pinched nerve generated the
sound. A pinched nerve can come about partly as a result of sitting
in front of a computer with an improper head posture over a prolonged
time period, according to what I was told.

I should have tried this ancient method as soon as my tinnitus
surfaced. As a matter of fact, a very close friend of mine was CURED
of her tinnitus by acupuncture as soon as her tinnitus surfaced. But
I waited and waited, while listening to all that irresponsible
citations of 'controlled' studies which show nothing except
habituation is effective for tinnitus.

My experiences suggest that habituation without the help of medical
treatment is a fool's game.

I don't know what the American doctors advise their patiens to do, but
the _standard treatment_ for practically all the state hospitals in
China for tinnitus patients is blood vessel dilating medicine, taken
either orally or intravenously. The Chinese doctors did not come to
this conclusion without having done research on their own.

So go ahead by all means with habituation, but don't forget the blood
vessel dilating part. Ginko is probably a much safer medicine than
any other synthetic blood vessel dilating medicine. Go figure!

jrw

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Aug 20, 2008, 12:52:15 AM8/20/08
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On Aug 20, 2:18 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> To suggest that acupuncture operation is an effective treatment for
> tinnitus, at least for a certain type of tinnitus patients, is too
> 'ethnic' for the folks around in the English speaking ngs and thus is
> seldom brought up by individuals for fear of being looked upon as
> being anti-social.
To suggest that the acupuncture is too 'ethnic' for the folks around
the English speaking newsgroups is utter rubbish. Most have tried
acupuncture, the trouble is that it has such a low success rate.

>
> In the name of whose holy god any of you wants me to pledge upon, it
> was an acupuncture operation performed in Vancouver of Canada that
> finally released me of my maddening illness. It was an illness that
> consisted of a combination of high-pitched sound and nerve
> discomfort. I don't know what the relationship between the sound and
> the nerve discomfort was but I was told a pinched nerve generated the
> sound. A pinched nerve can come about partly as a result of sitting
> in front of a computer with an improper head posture over a prolonged
> time period, according to what I was told.
This is just one form of tinnitus. Hence acupuncture is far from a
panacea.

>
> I should have tried this ancient method as soon as my tinnitus
> surfaced. As a matter of fact, a very close friend of mine was CURED
> of her tinnitus by acupuncture as soon as her tinnitus surfaced. But
> I waited and waited, while listening to all that irresponsible
> citations of 'controlled' studies which show nothing except
> habituation is effective for tinnitus.
It seems you suffered from an 'ethnic' prejudice against acupuncture.
Since you put such great store by anecdotal evidence I tried it
straight away.

>
> My experiences suggest that habituation without the help of medical
> treatment is a fool's game.
Nobody opts for habituation straight away. Habituation is the last
resort. Your comments are insensitive in the extreme. Some here have
contemplated suicide, you have no problem in coming back and declaring
that you are cured, recommending two treatments that they have all
tried and have found not to work, yet they suffer and you gloat.

>
> I don't know what the American doctors advise their patiens to do, but
> the _standard treatment_ for practically all the state hospitals in
> China for tinnitus patients is blood vessel dilating medicine, taken
> either orally or intravenously. The Chinese doctors did not come to
> this conclusion without having done research on their own.
>
> So go ahead by all means with habituation, but don't forget the blood
> vessel dilating part. Ginko is probably a much safer medicine than
> any other synthetic blood vessel dilating medicine. Go figure!
Here you go again. I sometimes feel that your posts are a running
advertisement for Ginko, something that is outside the terms of use at
Google groups. Ginko has a low strike rate, for most of us it is not
going to be the cure. Please show a little sensitivity. Tinnitus can
cause immense suffering.

You live in a world where you think that we in the eclectic West
entertain prejudices that run counter to the traditions of our
culture. Where I live, central London, there are 5 Chinese medical
centers within walking distance.

Could you possible cite the research that the Chinese doctors have
done on tinnitus? In previous discussions you might recall I had the
good grace to cite such scientific studies.

Best regards


John

fyf...@gmail.com

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Aug 20, 2008, 1:30:42 AM8/20/08
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I am not interested in an exchange of verbosity, and I am sure my
posts will help some around here...

jrw

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Aug 20, 2008, 1:58:13 AM8/20/08
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Hi Fyfpoon,

You are not interested in exchanging ideas. OK, well why not at the
very least try to exercise a little sensitivity then. Please stop
gloating over your 'cure' such that it is, realising that both
remedies have a low incidence of success. You help no one. Googlise
tinnitus and you will soon see that GB and acupuncture score pretty
highly.

Please try to answer at least one question, have you read much on stem
cell research and tinnitus?

Best regards


John

.  Bluto

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Aug 20, 2008, 9:57:51 AM8/20/08
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You need your brain blood vessels diatlated fyfpoon. CLEARLY you're
suggestive of a reduced flow to the brain. Well I guess all T people
should come to china and get cured. HAHAHA I guess chinese doctors
consult with you about all of this.

.  Bluto

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Aug 20, 2008, 9:59:56 AM8/20/08
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:52:15 -0700 (PDT), jrw <jrwi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

fyfpoon can't cite jack squat BUT he can give you the email address of
a chinese boyscout who was CURED from T by GB and acupuncture. What
better hard evidence could a person want!

.  Bluto

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Aug 20, 2008, 10:01:47 AM8/20/08
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:30:42 -0700 (PDT), "fyf...@gmail.com"
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote:

YES! It helps them learn what NOT to try! And also shows them what GB
and crack usage can do to someones brain(you being the example..and
lets not forget your shemale friend janice(larry in tights)

.  Bluto

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Aug 20, 2008, 10:04:24 AM8/20/08
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:58:13 -0700 (PDT), jrw <jrwi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Hi Fyfpoon,


Fyfpoon has to consult his chinese boyscout friend before he can make
any comments on stem cell research. He has to make sure he has the
hard evidence required. However he appears to be a good candidate for
it for his addiction to crack and GB.

fyf...@gmail.com

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Aug 25, 2008, 5:17:32 AM8/25/08
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On 8月20日, 下午1时58分, jrw <jrwilm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Fyfpoon,
>
> You are not interested in exchanging ideas.

i am interested in exchanging ideas but i do find many of your so-
called ideas are nothing but verbosity in which i am not interested.

OK, well why not at the
> very least try to exercise a little sensitivity then.

empty words.. by the way, are you an old time british?


Please stop
> gloating over your 'cure' such that it is, realising that both
> remedies have a low incidence of success.

i do realize if new T patients spend too much time intellectualizing
rather than trying, they will get nowhere. once the T becomes old, it
become harder to treat...


> You help no one.

How do you know? Have you done a counting of all those who have read
my posts? This statement you made above is what I call verbosity.

Googlise
> tinnitus and you will soon see that GB and acupuncture score pretty
> highly.
>

That is what I said...thank you for confirming it...


> Please try to answer at least one question, have you read much on stem
> cell research and tinnitus?
>

No...nor do i have any particular interest in finding it out. i don't
mind reading about it if someone posts something but I am under no
obligated to engage myself in any discussion related to this.
> Best regards
>
> John

Janice

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Aug 26, 2008, 8:46:44 AM8/26/08
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How many western medicine studies have accupuncture endured?

How many eastern medical syudies have habituation endured? How many western
studies? Lets talk about witchcraft and conjuring.

How about you take your loaded questions and try to destroy hope somewhere
else, Steve. The real personalities expose people very shortly when the
discussion gets technical.


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.  Bluto

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Aug 26, 2008, 9:13:02 AM8/26/08
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On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:17:32 -0700 (PDT), "fyf...@gmail.com"
<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote:

>How do you know? Have you done a counting of all those who have read
>my posts? This statement you made above is what I call verbosity.

The reason anyone would read your posts to see the effects of drugs on
the far eastern brain. We study the progression of your drug problem
by your posts and stupid cure alls. You just keep getting worse. Why
not go see a western doctor at a rehab clinic and get your head
screwed on straight. Sticking needles in your arse isn't going to
help your deep setted problem.

.  Bluto

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Aug 26, 2008, 9:15:33 AM8/26/08
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:46:44 -0400, "Janice" <Janice@hurtmail..com>
wrote:

>How many western medicine studies have accupuncture endured?
>
>How many eastern medical syudies have habituation endured? How many western
>studies? Lets talk about witchcraft and conjuring.
>
>How about you take your loaded questions and try to destroy hope somewhere
>else, Steve. The real personalities expose people very shortly when the
>discussion gets technical.

I see you are speaking of yourself Larry, Oh, I mean Janice. BTW what
color tights u wearing today? Yellow?

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