Food & Tinnitus
SNewman390
diet? Please e-mail me directly if you feel you can help. snewm...@aol.com
Thank you in advance
JEFF
JJ
I've found that consuming white sugar (sucrose) on an empty stomach makes T
worse within about 10-15 minutes. Example- I had a chocolate malt about 4
hours after dinner one night and my T was whistling away like a boiling tea
kettle for the next hour.
Over-eating also makes it worse. Yesterday I over-ate during lunch and had
louder T for the rest of the day.
Neither reaction happens every time, but often enough to see a pattern and
avoid the eating habits involved.
I've heard that cutting down on saturated fat helps T because it can clog
tiny arteries in the ear with cholesterol.
If you have not yet seen a tinnitus specialist, make an appointment to do
so immediately. A system called Tinnitus Retraining Therapy is available
and has an 85 percent success rate.
If you cannot afford to see a T specialist, or are not being treated for T
by a doctor or therapist, try playing FM radio static just BELOW the volume
level of your T all day. This is tremendously helpful, especially when T
is loud and causing a lot of anxiety.
DON'T USE THIS APPROACH IF:
1. You have very loud T. If your T is not masked by the sound of water
running in the shower, that's considered very loud T.
2. You have signficant hearing loss or wear hearing aids
3. The FM static volume must be set so high that it causes hearing
discomfort to you or others with normal hearing. A volume setting higher
than 5 or half way to full volume is probably too high.
Also try relaxation exercises. These must be done on a daily basis in
order to be effective. The best ones I've found are included in a book
called: "Six Seconds To Total Calm" by Robert Siegel. They help engage the
para-sympathetic (calming) part of the nervous system and help to
neutralize the "flight-or-fight" reaction of the sympathetic nervous
system, a reaction which can worsen or even cause T.
In some cases, prescription drugs used to treat anxiety or depression, such
as Xanax or Pamelor can help T. Ask your doctor about them. If he/she is
unfamiliar with this treatment for T, have them contact the American
Tinnitus Association which can send them research data.
Best wishes,
JJ
Michael E. Miller/Robert E. Seletsky
(long cut)
> If you cannot afford to see a T specialist, or are not being treated for T
> by a doctor or therapist, try playing FM radio static just BELOW the volume
> level of your T all day. This is tremendously helpful, especially when T
> is loud and causing a lot of anxiety.
>
> DON'T USE THIS APPROACH IF:
>
> 1. You have very loud T. If your T is not masked by the sound of water
> running in the shower, that's considered very loud T....
Please explain this to me. I would think that the more unbearable your T
volume, the more in need of masking or habituation noise you'd be. What
would you suggest as an alternative in such cases? The rest (relaxation,
benzos, etc.) are logical suggestions, and I'm glad you posted them.
Best wishes,
Bob Seletsky
Annetphoto
finally going to an allergist who wasalso an ENT. Well it turns out she
eliminated the bad foods from her diet, now she has no t at all and is totally
cured!
i live in los angeles and can give you the docs name.
some t is caused from food allergies that make the inner earswell (like the
nose when it swells due to seasonal allergies).
CC
This is very interesting. I'm new to this group and have only had
T for a few months or so. I have a number of food intolerances (or
allergies) and am interested in finding out more about the connection.
Can you provide me with the doctor's name and/or the types of food that
caused their T to worsen?
Thanks very much.
Cath.
Judy Gillen
Aren't you sure it wasn't the chocolate (which contains a high amount of
caffeine,or the malt which goes through an ageing process) wasn't the cause
of your t. and not the sugar,(which probably does affect it slightly too)?
Interesting....
Judy.
JJ wrote in message <01be2137$ea566140$8de09ed0@default>...
>Dear Jeff,
>
>I've found that consuming white sugar (sucrose) on an empty stomach makes T
>worse within about 10-15 minutes. Example- I had a chocolate malt about 4
>hours after dinner one night and my T was whistling away like a boiling tea
>kettle for the next hour.
>
>Over-eating also makes it worse. Yesterday I over-ate during lunch and had
>louder T for the rest of the day.
>
>Neither reaction happens every time, but often enough to see a pattern and
>avoid the eating habits involved.
>
>I've heard that cutting down on saturated fat helps T because it can clog
>tiny arteries in the ear with cholesterol.
>
>If you have not yet seen a tinnitus specialist, make an appointment to do
>so immediately. A system called Tinnitus Retraining Therapy is available
>and has an 85 percent success rate.
>
>by a doctor or therapist, try playing FM radio static just BELOW the volume
>level of your T all day. This is tremendously helpful, especially when T
>is loud and causing a lot of anxiety.
>
>DON'T USE THIS APPROACH IF:
>
>1. You have very loud T. If your T is not masked by the sound of water
Michael E. Miller/Robert E. Seletsky
I'm inclined to agree with you. Caffeine is awful for T, and there's
more caffeine in some chocolate than in coffee. I don't know about malt,
but beer has something other than alcohol that worsens T. I hope it's
not the sugar. I don't eat very much but I'd hate to give that up.
Best to all,
Bob Seletsky
Judy Gillen wrote:
>
> Hi JJ,
> Aren't you sure it wasn't the chocolate (which contains a high amount of
> caffeine,or the malt which goes through an ageing process) wasn't the cause
> of your t. and not the sugar,(which probably does affect it slightly too)?
> Interesting....
> JJ wrote
> >
> >I've found that consuming white sugar (sucrose) on an empty stomach makes T
> >worse within about 10-15 minutes. Example- I had a chocolate malt about 4
> >hours after dinner one night and my T was whistling away like a boiling tea
> >kettle for the next hour....
Bill Gerrells
to give up eating beer too:-)
--
Bill Gerrells, Fargo, ND, USA
American Tinnitus Association member
Join the ATA at 800-634-8978. http://www.ata.org
Michael E. Miller/Robert E. Seletsky wrote in message
<36701A...@sprintmail.com>...
>Hello Judy,
>
>I'm inclined to agree with you. Caffeine is awful for T, and there's
>more caffeine in some chocolate than in coffee. I don't know about malt,
>but beer has something other than alcohol that worsens T. I hope it's
>not the sugar. I don't eat very much but I'd hate to give that up.
>
>Best to all,
>Bob Seletsky
<snip>
BuktiMukti
>From: "Michael E. Miller/Robert E. Seletsky" <mem...@sprintmail.com>
>Date: Thu, Dec 10, 1998
>I hope it's
>not the sugar. I don't eat very much but I'd hate to give that up.
Are you a Jelly Belly freak like me?
I have a device called The Great American Jelly Bean Machine hanging on our
living room wall. It dispenses Jelly Bellys one at a time.
There's a wooden dowel with a hole just big enough to hold one bean. You
slide/rotate the dowel until you get the bean of your choice in the hole, then
turn the dowel over until the bean falls down a pathway made of brads nailed
close together, which gives a kind of musical pinging as the bean strikes the
brads (which I call The Jelly Belly National Anthem), and then it comes out the
bottom into a little cuplike recess, from which you pick it up and eat it.
That's the primary thrill.
The secondary and tertiary thrills are to not only listen to the anthem as the
bean travels its path, but to watch the whole process, because the front of the
machine is a glass window with the Jelly Belly flavor menu imprinted on it.
You see the kind of life I lead.
Cheers,
Leonard
"Loyalty to a petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul."
--Mark Twain 87
Marilyn
I read in a macrobiotic cook book to avoid dairy products, as they
can lead to T. I've not seen this corroborated anywhere else, but
I have personally noticed a slight increase in T after a latte for
example. An MD did recommend eliminating coffee because stimulants
blah, blah, blah. Oh no I couldn't do that. More recently I am
getting acupuncture treatments and I noticed a decrease in volume
as soon as the the first treatment was over. The acupunctor told me
it would take a couple of months before I would notice an improvement.
I can't understand people who use the radio static because it seems
like replacing one extremely annoying noise for another extremely
annoying noise??? How about the noise from your computers doesn't that
give you a little distraction? Hey maybe that's why we are here right
now.
I'd be interested in hearing if any other people enduring T have been
helped by acupunture.
Marilyn
John
> I can't understand people who use the radio static because it seems
> like replacing one extremely annoying noise for another extremely
> annoying noise??? How about the noise from your computers doesn't that
> give you a little distraction? Hey maybe that's why we are here right
> now.
My experience with radio static, and recently, white noise generators, is
that when played below the volume level of my tinnitus, what I call a
partial masking effect occurs.
Instead of hearing nothing but the annoying high-pitched sound of my T, I
hear a gentle surf-like sound and at worst, a faint "shadow" of the T
sound. Usually, however, the T sound is so weak relative to the white
noise and I quickly forget about the T altogether.
In the long term, this partial masking process, by minimizing the perceived
volume of the T, causes the subconscious mind to de-prioritize processing
of the T sound, which results in no or very little conscious perception of
T even when the white noise is not present.
A key factor is the fact that the partial masking process reduces the
stress associated with perception of T. The presence of intense T-related
stress can make the T sound worse and make it audible for a larger
percentage of the time. For me, T-related stress makes me more likely to
compulsively monitor my T, which is just about the worst thing a T sufferer
could do.
At the very, very least, partial masking brings emotional and psychological
relief and allows me to relax and enjoy life as opposed to being buried in
feelings of depression, annoyance, and anxiety.
JJ
Max A. Wood
bottled beer.
--
- Max
max...@mindspring.com
Michael E. Miller/Robert E. Seletsky wrote in message
<36701A...@sprintmail.com>...
>Hello Judy,
>
>I'm inclined to agree with you. Caffeine is awful for T, and there's
>more caffeine in some chocolate than in coffee. I don't know about malt,
>but beer has something other than alcohol that worsens T. I hope it's
>not the sugar. I don't eat very much but I'd hate to give that up.
>
>Best to all,
>Bob Seletsky
>
sluggo
Max A. Wood wrote in message
<75jor3$nml$1...@camel29.mindspring.com>...
:Could be the preservatives in beer. There's loads of the stuff
:>
:
Marilyn
>
> Could be the preservatives in beer. There's loads of the stuff in most
> bottled beer.
>
that's why so many people are switching to micro-brew.
No hang overs either after drinking microbrew.
At least that's what people tell me, incase I give you the wrong
impression
Marilyn
Bruce F. Meyers
"sluggo" <lug...@one.net.au> wrote:
>Not if you brew your own as I do,
>
----------------
I'll drink to that.
Bruce
Seattle
Bruce F. Meyers
Marilyn <mw@not_a_real_address.ca> wrote:
>that's why so many people are switching to micro-brew.
>No hang overs either after drinking microbrew.
>At least that's what people tell me, incase I give you the wrong
>impression
>
>Marilyn
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I'll drink to that.
rBuce
Seattlerxgb
Bruce F. Meyers
"Max A. Wood" <max...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Could be the preservatives in beer. There's loads of the stuff in most
>bottled beer.
>
>--
>- Max
----------------
I'll drink to that.
Bruce
Seattle
Michael E. Miller/Robert E. Seletsky
>
> Max A. Wood wrote:
> >
> > Could be the preservatives in beer. There's loads of the stuff in most
> > bottled beer.
> >
> that's why so many people are switching to micro-brew.
> No hang overs either after drinking microbrew.
> At least that's what people tell me, incase I give you the wrong
> impression
>
> Marilyn
My understanding is that, aside from the alcohol, beer contains
salicylates--the chemical in aspirin that gives you T--usually
temporarily. So, much as I like it (especially ale), I've forsworn it.
It's just not worth the extra whistle.
Bob S.
Bill Gerrells
--
Bill Gerrells, Fargo, ND, USA
American Tinnitus Association member
Join the ATA at 800-634-8978. http://www.ata.org
JB2178 wrote in message <19981222192137...@ng-ce1.aol.com>...
>>No hang overs either after drinking microbrew.
>
>.......................
>
> Excuse Me, but what's microbrew??
>
> jean
BluesMa
Bruce F. Meyers wrote:
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I'll drink to that.
Really glad to be home eh?rBuce
Seattlerxgb
And you were dissin' poor Leonard
Ma
Bill Gerrells
--
Bill Gerrells, Fargo, ND, USA
American Tinnitus Association member
Join the ATA at 800-634-8978. http://www.ata.org
Bruce F. Meyers wrote in message <75pett$q...@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>...
>Microbrewing is an option to home brewing in
>which you purchase the contents of organically
>processed beer and you finish brewing to your
>own prefered tastes in only a few minutes in
>your home microwave. My favourite (Canadian
>spelling) is 'Jiffy Ale'. Much better that
>'Lagerquick' or 'Zap Beer'.
>
>Bruce
>Seattle
wayne dudenas
Are you serious do you really microwave it. I never heard of that down
here in the Niagara falls area...
Dar>>>
Marilyn
>
> In article <19981222192137...@ng-ce1.aol.com>,> >........................
> >
> > Excuse Me, but what's microbrew??
> >
> > jean
>
>
> What Marilyn meant by that term, Jean, is that
> ever since her magnificent country of Canada
> went over to the metric system of measurement
> the bottles of beer there now have less fluid
> contents. OK, that's not what she meant.
>
> What Marilyn was refering to was the small
> bottles that they sell on airline flights.
> OK, she didn't mean that either.
>
> Microbrewing is an option to home brewing in
> which you purchase the contents of organically
> processed beer and you finish brewing to your
> own prefered tastes in only a few minutes in
> your home microwave. My favourite (Canadian
> spelling) is 'Jiffy Ale'. Much better that
> 'Lagerquick' or 'Zap Beer'.
>
> Bruce
> Seattle
Well thanks Bruce for giving all the explanations possible, and all
of them are WRONG.
We use the term up here to denote beer, brewed by small local
breweries. It is organic local beer.
There are also brew pubs which serve their own beer.
Some of our BC beer has won international prizes and we are on the
list for travellers who search out the best beer in the world.
For more information try <beer.com>
a votre sante!
Marilyn
JB2178
.......................
Excuse Me, but what's microbrew??
jean
Bruce F. Meyers
>>No hang overs either after drinking microbrew.
>
>........................
>
> Excuse Me, but what's microbrew??
>
> jean
-------------------
Bruce F. Meyers
Marilyn <mw@not_a_real_address.ca> wrote:
>
>Well thanks Bruce for giving all the explanations possible, and all
>of them are WRONG.
>
>We use the term up here to denote beer, brewed by small local
>breweries. It is organic local beer.
>There are also brew pubs which serve their own beer.
>
>Some of our BC beer has won international prizes and we are on the
>list for travellers who search out the best beer in the world.
>For more information try <beer.com>
>
>a votre sante!
>
>Marilyn
---------------------
Yes, British Columbian microbrews are quite good.
BC'ers are the world's foremost authorities on
beer, followed closely by Saskatchuwans.
It all began while Canada was first being settled
a couple of centuries ago. In order to gain
credibility and influence in the New World nearly
75% of all new settlers claimed bloodlines connected
to the Throne in England. This worked great until
tragedy hit.
Hearing that England had a new princess by the name of
Victoria; residents of Vancouver Island (to Canada
it is considered an island. Vancouver Island is so
enormous the rest of the world would consider it a continent)
decided to name their principle city; Victoria. After
all, 75% of them claimed her as a cousin. As Princess
Victoria grew older pictures of her were making their
way out to Vancouver Island. The older the princess
became, unfortunately, the homlier she became. By
the time she was crowned queen it was unsettling to
cast one's gaze into her direction at all.
The false social class built on fraudulent claims of
blood relations with the throne collapsed. People
could not cope with their earlier claims of blood relations
with one so uncomely. Alcoholism became rampant
throughout Canada especially in the city of Victoria
on Vancouver Island in British Columbia.
As every dark cloud has a silver lining, we today are
enjoying the after-fruits of this troubling time.
We now enjoy a rainbow of flavours (Canadian spelling)
of some mighty fine beers, lagers and ales.
Bruce
Seattle
I'll tell you this; If I start having
a conflict between the 't' and my beer....
then I'm giving up the 't'.
Join the American Tinnitus Association http://www.ata.org
sluggo
Bruce F. Meyers wrote in message
<75nkjg$o...@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>...
:In article <75jor3$nml$1...@camel29.mindspring.com>,
: "Max A. Wood" <max...@mindspring.com> wrote:
:
:>Could be the preservatives in beer. There's loads of the stuff
in most
:>bottled beer.
:>
:>--
:>- Max
:----------------
:I'll drink to that.
:
:Bruce
:Seattle
BuktiMukti
>Date: Tue, Dec 22, 1998
>what's microbrew??
That's home-made beer served in thimbles.
Cheers,
Leonard
"Tact is the art of making a point without making an enemy." --Anonymous
319
BuktiMukti
>Date: Tue, Dec 22, 1998
>Are you serious do you really microwave it. I never heard of that down
>here in the Niagara falls area...
That's how he keeps his cats warm...
Cheers,
Leonard
"Being a philosopher, I have a problem for every solution." --Robert Zend 169
BuktiMukti
>Date: Tue, Dec 22, 1998
>And you were dissin' poor Leonard
Wha'd I do???? *Nuthin*, that's what!
Cheers,
Leonard
"A word to the wise is--unnecessary." --Lawrence J. Peter 29
Marilyn
To Bruce :
Excuse me then, did I know that I was responding to an historian?
In Victoria:
If you drive slowly towards the water (Inner Harbour) by the statues of the
charging soldier with the fixed bayonet and the fat ugly Queen Victoria in
front of the legislature, the soldier lines up exactly behind the Queen.
The real underground history of Victoria is this:
People on the Barbary Coast, now San Francisco et environs got
bored and came up this way to have a good time. There are still two
underground casinos here dating back to those days. Don't ask me
where they are, they float.
The first Europeans here were getting rich from killing all those
sea otters, when the otters were all gone the Americans taught them how to
clear cut the forests and take all the salmon.
The City of Vancouver on the US Coast was supposed to be our capital city,
but the pen slipped when they redrew the map and the US got the San Juan
Islands and Point Roberts along with Washington State. So watch it Bruce,
you are living in former Canadian territory.
Marilyn
wayne dudenas
Merry Christmas....
Dar Canada >>>
wayne dudenas
Dar>>>
Bruce F. Meyers
Marilyn <mw@not_a_real_address.ca> wrote in part:
>
>To Bruce :
snipage of some pretty impressive text :-)
>
>The City of Vancouver on the US Coast was supposed to be our capital city,
>but the pen slipped when they redrew the map and the US got the San Juan
>Islands and Point Roberts along with Washington State. So watch it Bruce,
>you are living in former Canadian territory.
>
>Marilyn
The slippage of the pen was once again 'beer influenced'
(to the US benefit), and happened shortly after another
'bender' the Canadians went on in their emabarrassment
over The Pig War.
We the People of The United States would be happy to return
Vancouver Washington to our Canadian neighbors in trade for
a case of Anchor Steen.
Bruce F. Meyers
"sluggo" <lug...@one.net.au> wrote:
>hey Bruce its your shout...... 2 Schooners ( 15 oz's ) please
>
>
----------------
Comin' up, mate, with Holiday Season bows
on them. Your turn to ring the bell next.
Your yank buddy;
BluesMa
Bruce has evidently been inhaling dust mites again.
Or................Snoggin' a bit eh'
Ma
Jack Rodgers
the head. Before the game each piece has its shot glass filled. When you
capture a piece, you have to empty the shot glass. Quite often in this game
it is difficult to get the players to agree on who is winning.
--
Jack Rodgers <jrod...@bellsouth.net>
Relax and breath slowly. As your muscles relax, your tinnitus relaxes.
----------
In article <75nknh$9...@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>, Bruce F. Meyers
SNewman390
BuktiMukti
>Date: Thu, Dec 24, 1998
>You'd probably enjoy the chess game where the pieces have a shot glass on
>the head. Before the game each piece has its shot glass filled.
Strip chess is fun too, depending on with whom you're playing...
Cheers,
Leonard
"A hundred times every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life
depend on the labors of other men, living and dead, and that I must exert
myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received and am still
receiving." --Albert Einstein 617
Fiveman2
Henry
<bukti...@aol.com> writes
Have a good New year...
Henry
Very best regards
Henry
Bristol
England
Henry
<?@?.?.netcom.com> writes
Henry
<jb2...@aol.com> writes
>>No hang overs either after drinking microbrew.
>
>.......................
>
>
> jean
Hello Jean
IN Europe it is a small and specialist brewery which makes beer that
others cannot match.
Of course you may have heard that these 'artist' brewers are sometimes
known by the slang term 'Piss artists' its not true. They do not do
that in their beer.
Henry
Henry
<wdud...@npiec.on.ca> writes
>Bruce,
> Are you serious do you really microwave it. I never heard of that down
>here in the Niagara falls area...
>
>
I didn't know that micro waves were variants of big waves overtopping
the niagra ( or should it be the viagra falls - Have a good one
Henry
>Bruce F. Meyers wrote:
>>
>> In article <19981222192137...@ng-ce1.aol.com>,
>> jb2...@aol.com (JB2178) wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Excuse Me, but what's microbrew??
>> >
>> > jean
>>
>>
>> What Marilyn meant by that term, Jean, is that
>> ever since her magnificent country of Canada
>> went over to the metric system of measurement
>> the bottles of beer there now have less fluid
>> contents. OK, that's not what she meant.
>>
>> What Marilyn was refering to was the small
>> bottles that they sell on airline flights.
>> OK, she didn't mean that either.
>>
>> Microbrewing is an option to home brewing in
>> which you purchase the contents of organically
>> processed beer and you finish brewing to your
>> own prefered tastes in only a few minutes in
>> your home microwave. My favourite (Canadian
>> spelling) is 'Jiffy Ale'. Much better that
>> 'Lagerquick' or 'Zap Beer'.
>>
>> Bruce
>> Seattle
>
>
>of them are WRONG.
>
>We use the term up here to denote beer, brewed by small local
>breweries. It is organic local beer.
>There are also brew pubs which serve their own beer.
>
>Some of our BC beer has won international prizes and we are on the
>list for travellers who search out the best beer in the world.
>For more information try <beer.com>
>
>a votre sante!
>
>Marilyn
Hi Marilyn
This is Henry from Bristol ( sometime known as bristol city which
rythmes with bristol titty) These travelers in search of a decent brew
often pass this way. They are respected for their impeccable taste in
brewing which is of course not an antidote for scre.... Oh well better
left unsaid. Have a cup of Seattle coffee - underground.
Not as good for the libido but it does get your hair to grow....
Lots of Bristol fashion for you new year
henry
Henry
<?@?.?.netcom.com> writes
>In article <36811AE1.4937@not_a_real_address.ca>,
> Marilyn <mw@not_a_real_address.ca> wrote in part:
>>
>>To Bruce :
>snipage of some pretty impressive text :-)
>>
>>The City of Vancouver on the US Coast was supposed to be our capital city,
>>but the pen slipped when they redrew the map and the US got the San Juan
>>Islands and Point Roberts along with Washington State. So watch it Bruce,
>>you are living in former Canadian territory.
>>
>>Marilyn
>----------------------
>
>The slippage of the pen was once again 'beer influenced'
>(to the US benefit), and happened shortly after another
>'bender' the Canadians went on in their emabarrassment
>over The Pig War.
>We the People of The United States would be happy to return
>Vancouver Washington to our Canadian neighbors in trade for
>a case of Anchor Steen.
>
>Seattle
>
>
>
>
>I'll tell you this; If I start having a
>conflict between the 't' and my beer....
>then I'm giving up the 't'.
>
Hello Bruce
Give up the homebrew and have a cup of the Big T ale.
Ale is better than beer any way.....
Now for a pot stir Sir.
Hank
>Join the American Tinnitus Association ----- Won't! Hank
>http://www.ata.org
BuktiMukti
>Date: Sun, Dec 27, 1998
By God, Henry, could hardly find your statement there, amid all the quotes!
Good to hear from you, and all the best for the coming year!
Cheers,
Leonard
"Always bear in mind that your own resolution to success is more important
than any other one thing." --Abraham Lincoln 323
BuktiMukti
>you may have heard that these 'artist' brewers are sometimes
>known by the slang term 'Piss artists' its not true. They do not do
>that in their beer.
Several years ago in Los Angeles, there was a rumor spread by the competition
that Corona Beer, a brew made in Mexico, had urine in it. Whether true or not,
people still drink it.
This reminds me of a story told me by an old friend of mine who is very into
Spanish and Mexico.
He was in a Mexican bar one night, taking a leak, and wondering why there was
this huge block of ice on a shelf at eye-level while he was standing there
peeing.
The answer came shortly: In walked the bartender with a drink, said "Perdone
me, Señor," reached in front of my friend, chipped some ice into the drink, and
walked out.
Cheers,
Leonard
"Believing something is true--even really REALLY hard--still doesn't make it
true." --Stan Forriner 60
BuktiMukti
>This is Henry from Bristol ( sometime known as bristol city which
>rythmes with bristol titty)
By God Henry, aren't you frisky! Practicing celebrating New Years are you? ;-D
Cheers,
Leonard
"An expert is a person who avoids small errors as he sweeps on to the grand
fallacy." --Benjamin Stolberg 387
Henry
<bukti...@aol.com> writes
Not in practice for the new Year but frisky maybe - well a bit of
wishful thinking anyway.
New Year will be spent with a Scot.
You know about Scots. They are the men who wear frocks and fart through
multi pipes connected to a sheeps bladder. the sheeps bladder is not a
pretty sight so they cover it in a tartan.
Tartan is the original crossword; all ups and downs with frayed ends.
Now the Jocks in frocks celebrate the Hogmanay Or hug-my-knee so some
would say by killing a dead pudding called a Haggis.
They stab tha little pudding with a skean dhu, which is a little knife
worn in the stocking tops of the Jock in the Frock.
After the little pudding has been stabbed and some wonderful words
uttered over it, a quote from a scottish poet who can write in the
langualge of the highland race; then a we dram of whisky is poured into
the hole in the skin of the chief o' the puddin' race, as a form of
disinfectant I suppose.
Then after a little nibble wi some tatties and bashed neeps al gang oot
tae the firs footin' wi coal and salt.
Next day is a holiday because the first night canne be rememberrred !
BluesMa
Even a wee bit o' the haggis calls for a great deal of whiskey for this gal.
Who ever thought it would be a good idea to make that lump a traditional feast ingredient ?
FIE
Maybe you'll luck out and your Scot will order some take away pizza
H.N.Y. anyway
Ma
Bruce F. Meyers
grand and triumphant return after vanquishing
the inner ear gremlins of the innocents and not
so innocents?
Chin up about the Scot but be prepared. Here in
the New World we use the "hog-tie" restraint for
them and the Norwegians. You can still get the
magic nectar through their lips and thoroughly
enjoy their verbally expressed observations
without suffering any personal physical harm.
It's always a good idea to have your earplugs
in a safe corner of your wallet for when he gets
loud, since you'll be paying for all but the first
round (considering who you're celebrating with)
and the number of times your wallet will be in
and out of your pocket.
Even better regards;
Bruce
Seattle (the Bristol of the West)
------------------
In article <3V5EoDAcd$h2E...@hlove.demon.co.uk>,
BuktiMukti
>They stab tha little pudding with a skean dhu
Is this anything like fondue?
Cheers,
Leonard
"There are men who are heroes only to their valet." --Murray Kempton 20
Marilyn
> often pass this way. They are respected for their impeccable taste in
> brewing which is of course not an antidote for scre.... Oh well better
> left unsaid. Have a cup of Seattle coffee - underground.
>
> Not as good for the libido but it does get your hair to grow....
>
> Lots of Bristol fashion for you new year
>
> henry
> Henry
> Bristol
> England
Hi Henry,
Pretty heavy on the scat aren't you, my dear chap.
I'm from Victoria and going to Seattle for a coffee well,
that would mean a ferry & a couple of hours on land. Then
my dollar would only be worth 50 cents when I got there.
Besides what do I care about libido & long hair. I am a painter,
living on the ecstacy brought on by the vision of my natural
environment, like the Juan de Fuca straight, the Olympic Mountains,
tall cedars, madrone trees...
Unless Bruce wants to send me up some Seattle coffee.
Isn't it a little wet & cold down there for growing coffee, Bruce?
and are the coffee pickers, adults being paid fair wages with benefits?
self-righteously yours,
Marilyn
Henry
<2blu...@popd.ix.netcom.com> writes
> Hey Henry
> Even a wee bit o' the haggis calls for a great deal of whiskey for
> this gal.
> Who ever thought it would be a good idea to make that lump a
> traditional feast ingredient ?
> FIE
> Maybe you'll luck out and your Scot will order some take away
> pizza
>
> H.N.Y. anyway
>
> Ma
>
>
>
> >
>
>
Hi Ma.
Tis true the we dram can be a big dram.
I shall forsake the minced sheep's guts for a simple slice of the smoked
salmon. A wee dram is no so daft wi it.
Henry
<asto...@ix.netcom.com> writes
>God I love stuff like this! Henry, is this your
>grand and triumphant return after vanquishing
>the inner ear gremlins of the innocents and not
>so innocents?
>Chin up about the Scot but be prepared. Here in
>the New World we use the "hog-tie" restraint for
>them and the Norwegians.
The Norwegians don't wear frocks ! They have very long toes and extended
heels. With these evolved feets they slide about chasing Trolls and
other muttering things found under the pines.
> You can still get the
>magic nectar through their lips and thoroughly
>enjoy their verbally expressed observations
>without suffering any personal physical harm.
>It's always a good idea to have your earplugs
>in a safe corner of your wallet for when he gets
>loud, since you'll be paying for all but the first
>round (considering who you're celebrating with)
>and the number of times your wallet will be in
>and out of your pocket.
Tis true. These Scottish canna get to a wallet without scratching around
in a sort of reversed bum bag ( American is Fanny Pack; but that is
definitely NOT the same meaning in English English) which they call a
Sporran. The Scots being sensitive people would never embarrass a soul
by scratching about near to their groin, especially for a coin, so they
don't do it.
>
>Even better regards;
>Bruce
>Seattle (the Bristol of the West)
>------------------
Enjoy the night
Henry
<asto...@ix.netcom.com> writes
>In article <36811AE1.4937@not_a_real_address.ca>,
> Marilyn <mw@not_a_real_address.ca> wrote in part:
>>
>>To Bruce :
>snipage of some pretty impressive text :-)
>>
>>The City of Vancouver on the US Coast was supposed to be our capital city,
>>but the pen slipped when they redrew the map and the US got the San Juan
>>Islands and Point Roberts along with Washington State. So watch it Bruce,
>>you are living in former Canadian territory.
>>
>>Marilyn
>----------------------
>
>The slippage of the pen was once again 'beer influenced'
>(to the US benefit), and happened shortly after another
>'bender' the Canadians went on in their emabarrassment
>over The Pig War.
>We the People of The United States would be happy to return
>Vancouver Washington to our Canadian neighbors in trade for
>a case of Anchor Steen.
>
>Bruce
>Seattle
>
>
>
>
>I'll tell you this; If I start having a
>conflict between the 't' and my beer....
>then I'm giving up the 't'.
>
>
In my utter ignorance I have to ask - What was/is the Pig War ?
Henry
>>
>> Lots of Bristol fashion for you new year
>>
>> henry
>> Henry
>> Bristol
>> England
>
>
>
>Pretty heavy on the scat aren't you, my dear chap.
>
>I'm from Victoria and going to Seattle for a coffee well,
>that would mean a ferry & a couple of hours on land. Then
>my dollar would only be worth 50 cents when I got there.
>Besides what do I care about libido & long hair. I am a painter,
>living on the ecstacy brought on by the vision of my natural
>environment, like the Juan de Fuca straight, the Olympic Mountains,
>tall cedars, madrone trees...
At last I meet another painter.
They are becoming somewhat lost in the artbollocks that is currently the
interest of the critics.
I am delighted to hear that you are inspired by your local 'brew' of
visions. I am a bodies person !
>Unless Bruce wants to send me up some Seattle coffee.
>Isn't it a little wet & cold down there for growing coffee, Bruce?
>and are the coffee pickers, adults being paid fair wages with benefits?
>
>self-righteously yours,
Ouch I scream on behalf of Bruce.
It is not Bruce's fault that the Canadian Dollar got fed up with being
'dissed' by the financial community and decided to move south.
Seattle is of course the wrong place to grow coffee but they ( The
Seattle or are the called settees?) are supporting the under played
coffee growers and roasters of nether Tanzania and Brazil. ( where the
nuts come from). The Canadians though, are much nicer people than the
Americans because the Canadians tell us where they come from with their
little maples.
They also play better ice hockey than the Tanzanian coffee croppers but
don't get to make lytefisk as well as the settees!
You are right about the word games Just don't take me seriously at all.
I never do.
BuktiMukti
> These Scottish canna get to a wallet without scratching around
>in a sort of reversed bum bag ( American is Fanny Pack
But when you wear a fanny pack in front, it's called a bush bag, heh heh...
Cheers,
Leonard
"Better to have and not need than to need and not have." --Stan Forriner
302
BuktiMukti
>over The Pig War.
>>We the People of The United States would be happy to return
>>Vancouver Washington to our Canadian neighbors in trade for
>>a case of Anchor Steen.
Speak for yourself, bub!
Cheers,
Leonard
Many studies have discovered a close link between prejudice and "patriotism" .
. . Extreme bigots are almost always super-patriots. --Gordon W. Allport 186
Bruce F. Meyers
Henry <he...@hlove.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In my utter ignorance I have to ask - What was/is the Pig War ?
>Very best regards
>Henry
>Bristol
>England
---------------------
The Pig War happened back in the days when Canadians
were still going by the name British. It was just before
the 'pen slippage' that our dear Marilyn refered to and
territory here in this wet corner of the planet was
still not agreed upon.
There is a small island in the San Juan Islands called
San Juan. Both Americans and British inhabited the little
attractive rock. One of the Britt's pigs had a habit of
helping himself to the garden that belonged to an American.
After a couple of protests and no action taken the American
shot the pig dead. This sorely p***ed off the Canadian who,
when he went to complain, was merely laughed at by the
American. The angrier he got the harder the American laughed.
War was declared by the British over this which brought
both English and American troops to the island of San Juan.
Not much happened during the Pig War after that and the only
casuality was the pig.
Bruce
Seattle
Marilyn
Thanks Bruce for the X-planation above.
Me thinks you have just described the reason why
Americans are so pig-obsessed. Your overwhelming
unresolved guilt results in flicks like
"Babe" and "Pig in the City."
It's okay, it's okay, we forgive you. And you can
keep the territory since it isn't pens slipping anymore,
it's land slipping off hillsides.
We are having a lot of avalanche and land slippage up
here too. One day BC is going to wake up and find itself
in Washington State.
Marilyn
your soon to be compadre.
Bruce F. Meyers
of O'Doul's for Leonard who obviously has not visited
Vancouver Washington within the last 25 years.
Bruce
Seattle
-------------------
In article <19981230103333...@ng154.aol.com>,
bukti...@aol.com (BuktiMukti) wrote:
>>over The Pig War.
>>>We the People of The United States would be happy to return
>>>Vancouver Washington to our Canadian neighbors in trade for
>>>a case of Anchor Steen.
>
>Speak for yourself, bub!
>
>Cheers,
>
>Leonard
>
>
>Many studies have discovered a close link between prejudice and "patriotism" .
>.. . Extreme bigots are almost always super-patriots. --Gordon W. Allport 186
Bruce F. Meyers
Marilyn <mw@not_a_real_address.ca> wrote:
>
>Thanks Bruce for the X-planation above.
>Me thinks you have just described the reason why
>Americans are so pig-obsessed. Your overwhelming
>unresolved guilt results in flicks like
>"Babe" and "Pig in the City."
>
It's true .... it's true ...... I must confess
that I can't even take my young son, Paul, to the
movie. I'm leaving that up to the Mrs who can take
or leave pork.
Since this thread title is "Food & Tinnitus" I would
like to report that liguinni with crabsauce has a
healing effect on hearing and particularly on tinnitus.
Last night I had a large plate of this before going
to see the roadshow production of Ragtime in Seattle.
Today the volume is way down and I'm also able to hear
some high tones that I've been unable to hear for
weeks. This makes perfectly good sense when you
consider that the formula for the EERIE WAX paste is
ground up fish and bird ears along with a homeopathic
solution of tears cried by Edgar Cayce while receivng
accupuncture.
When it comes to Seattle coffee one must take into
consideration that even though the Columbian, Peruvian
and Brazilian bean harvesters are not employees of the
Canadian government their paychecks are of a great
deal more monetary value than if they were. Also,
since the climate is so wet here the North Pacific
rather than picking beans the local growers simply
put a tap on the coffee plant. It's already coffee
beverage which only needs to be heated up.
-------------------
-----------------
Thank you. I love the fact that you are a painter.
I would gladly pay your way here as the office and
the garage interior needs to be touched up. I'll
supply the coffee and Washington wine as well. The
wine must wait until after the job, however.
In truth, I too am an artist (performing) and have
spent most of my life as the 'starving' variety until
the last few years which have been very kind to me
and my performing business. So, actually I *do* love
that you are an artist because I know what it takes.
But then, it gives a lot more doesn't it?
---------------------
>And you can
>keep the territory since it isn't pens slipping anymore,
>it's land slipping off hillsides.
>
>We are having a lot of avalanche and land slippage up
>here too. One day BC is going to wake up and find itself
>in Washington State.
>
-----------------
Do you remember back in the early 1970s when British
Columbia, Washington and Northern California were
going to succeed from the US and Canada? The way the
weather has been going it looks as though we're going
to 'mush' together anyway, neighbor.
Fondly;
Bruce of Cascadia
>Marilyn
>your soon to be compadre.
Marilyn
Hi Bruce,
This is fun, too bad I can't make a living at it,
just like my painting. But wall painting, now that is
marketable. How about a cross between art & utility,
I'll do a mural for your office. Yes, and I have the scene
before my very eyes.
It would be mountains & sea of course.
Let's title it: Cascadia
Between the marine blue mountains and the ultramarine blue sea
there is a haze, a little yellow ochre, turning to burnt sienna.
What could it be?
No, it isn't pollution.
it's the brown steam from all the coffee
brewing in Vancouver & Seattle combined!!
Soon it will cover the earth.
I'm off to rent the movie "Afterglow"
there's a line in it which I love:
"I know a lot about art, but I don't know what I like."
Will report back with my critique if you like.
More later on art...
Marilyn
BluesMa
So glad you explained this.I thought it was a reference to the time
those two untidy wenches got into it over which would walk you home.Ma
BuktiMukti
>Americans are so pig-obsessed.
???!! Since when? The only obsession *this* American has for pigs is with
smoked bacon, and *not* "Canadian bacon." Why do they called sliced ham
Canadian bacon?
Cheers,
Leonard
"There is only one success--to be able to spend your life in your own way."
--Christopher Morley 47
BuktiMukti
>Date: Wed, Dec 30, 1998
>OK, OK,.... 2/3rds case of Anchor Steen and a 6-pack
>of O'Doul's for Leonard who obviously has not visited
>Vancouver Washington within the last 25 years.
Actually, more like the last *62* years.
Cheers,
Leonard
"At six, a kid knows all the questions, and at sixteen, he knows all the
answers." --Henny Youngman 274
sluggo
produced, ,directed 100%.
Marilyn wrote in message <368A683E.4DC3@not_a_real_address.ca>...
:Bruce F. Meyers wrote:
:>
:> In article <HVbRJLArfii2Ewx$@hlove.demon.co.uk>,
:> Henry <he...@hlove.demon.co.uk> wrote:
:>
:> >In my utter ignorance I have to ask - What was/is the Pig War
?
:> >Very best regards
:> >Henry
:> >Bristol
:> >England
:> ---------------------
:>
:> The Pig War happened back in the days when Canadians
:> were still going by the name British. It was just before
:> the 'pen slippage' that our dear Marilyn refered to and
:> territory here in this wet corner of the planet was
:> still not agreed upon.
:> There is a small island in the San Juan Islands called
:> San Juan. Both Americans and British inhabited the little
:> attractive rock. One of the Britt's pigs had a habit of
:> helping himself to the garden that belonged to an American.
:> After a couple of protests and no action taken the American
:> shot the pig dead. This sorely p***ed off the Canadian who,
:> when he went to complain, was merely laughed at by the
:> American. The angrier he got the harder the American laughed.
:> War was declared by the British over this which brought
:> both English and American troops to the island of San Juan.
:> Not much happened during the Pig War after that and the only
:> casuality was the pig.
:>
:> Bruce
:> Seattle
:
:
:Thanks Bruce for the X-planation above.
:Me thinks you have just described the reason why
:Americans are so pig-obsessed. Your overwhelming
:unresolved guilt results in flicks like
:"Babe" and "Pig in the City."
:
:It's okay, it's okay, we forgive you. And you can
:keep the territory since it isn't pens slipping anymore,
:it's land slipping off hillsides.
:
:We are having a lot of avalanche and land slippage up
:here too. One day BC is going to wake up and find itself
:in Washington State.
:
:Marilyn
Marilyn
Americans, eh.
Marilyn
sluggo
Marilyn wrote in message <368BA563.14CC@not_a_real_address.ca>...
:I stand corrected, but who goes to see these movies by the
Bill Gerrells
colony! :-)
--
Bill Gerrells, Fargo, ND, USA
sluggo wrote in message <368d4...@pink.one.net.au>...
>Thats why I am glad I live in Australia...............
<snip>
Henry
<asto...@ix.netcom.com> writes
The Brits haven't learned a lot from this incident. They still protect
pigs and have an office called the Foreign Office to look after
'territories which are not British. Now you know why it is not an insult
when a Brit says FO - he means Office. If you believe that then there
will be an international incident, again, courtesy of the FO.
Henry
>Me thinks you have just described the reason why
>Americans are so pig-obsessed. Your overwhelming
>unresolved guilt results in flicks like
>"Babe" and "Pig in the City."
>
>It's okay, it's okay, we forgive you. And you can
>keep the territory since it isn't pens slipping anymore,
>it's land slipping off hillsides.
>
>We are having a lot of avalanche and land slippage up
>here too. One day BC is going to wake up and find itself
>in Washington State.
>
>Marilyn
>your soon to be compadre.
Marilyn don't forget that your southern neighbours also created the
expression Pig Out - I wonder why|?
Henry
<bukti...@aol.com> writes
>>Subject: Re: Food & Tinnitus
>>Date: Mon, Dec 28
>
>>They stab tha little pudding with a skean dhu
>
>Is this anything like fondue?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Leonard
>
>"There are men who are heroes only to their valet." --Murray Kempton 20
Very best regards
Henry
Bristol
England
sluggo
movies from Australia
Marilyn wrote in message <368BA563.14CC@not_a_real_address.ca>...
:I stand corrected, but who goes to see these movies by the
millions?
:Americans, eh.
:
:Marilyn
:
:sluggo wrote:
:>
:> I beg your pardon "babe" and its sequell are Australian made ,
:> produced, ,directed 100%.
:>
:> Marilyn wrote in message
<368A683E.4DC3@not_a_real_address.ca>...
:> :Bruce F. Meyers wrote:
:> :>
:> :> In article <HVbRJLArfii2Ewx$@hlove.demon.co.uk>,
:> :> Henry <he...@hlove.demon.co.uk> wrote:
:> :>
:> :> >In my utter ignorance I have to ask - What was/is the Pig
War
:> ?
:> :> >Very best regards
:> :> >Henry
:> :> >Bristol
:> :> >England
:> :> ---------------------
Marilyn
>
> In article <368A683E.4DC3@not_a_real_address.ca>, Marilyn
> <mw@not_a_real_address.ca> writes
> Very best regards
> Henry
> Bristol
> England
We know why don't we Henry.
They are also obsessed with cholesterol.
I understand this is what you get from eating too many pigs and watching
too many pig movies. It might even be called the revenge of the pig.
We don't have it up here, but I see a lot about it on US TV channels.
Marilyn
Meat-free in Victoria
sluggo
out here for years, mostly now we yanks looking for a better life
or kiwis looking to get on the dole .and a free ride
Bill Gerrells wrote in message <368d6...@news.linkup.net>...
:Such a lovely place, Australia. I've always thought WE should
:
:
Bruce F. Meyers
>> Marilyn don't forget that your southern neighbours also created the
>> expression Pig Out - I wonder why|?
>> Very best regards
>> Henry
>> Bristol
>> England
>
>
In article <368E6969.42FC@not_a_real_address.ca>,
Marilyn <mw@not_a_real_address.ca> wrote:
>We know why don't we Henry.
>They are also obsessed with cholesterol.
>I understand this is what you get from eating too many pigs and watching
>too many pig movies. It might even be called the revenge of the pig.
>We don't have it up here, but I see a lot about it on US TV channels.
>
>Marilyn
>Meat-free in Victoria
----------------------
Dear Xena;
We Americans will keep eating Empirialistic
swine until they stop invading our sovereign
gardens.
****** "54 - 40 OR FONDUE!" ******
Bruce
Seattle
BuktiMukti
>Date: Sat, Jan 2, 1999
> Every time we yanks do something incredibly
>stupid (like the war in Vietnam) Canada's population goes up.
"It takes an intelligent person to do something *really* stupid." 祐tan
Forriner
Cheers,
Leonard
"Learn by experience--if possible, by other people's." --Henny Youngman 283
Marilyn
>
> >Subject: Re: Food & Tinnitus
> >From: "Bill Gerrells" <bi...@pcparts.net>
> >Date: Sat, Jan 2, 1999
>
> > Every time we yanks do something incredibly
> >stupid (like the war in Vietnam) Canada's population goes up.
>
> Forriner
>
> Cheers,
>
> Leonard
>
> "Learn by experience--if possible, by other people's." --Henny Youngman 283
Yes, I know of some of those ex-patriots,
great people like Jesse Winchester etc.
Also know some personally, friendly, smart, creative people.
Canada is so lucky to have them.
Marilyn