Noise in left ear
Grumps
I've had this 'noise' for about 3-4 weeks. I've had two standard hearing
tests, and apparently have good hearing for my age (just under 50). Have
seen doctor, and now waiting for an ENT appointment.
The 'noise' is like a high-pitched squeeling (very high pitch. I estimate it
near the limit of my hearing). If I put my finger in my ear, I can hear it
fluctuating between two levels of loudness, but the pitch is always the
same.
If I plug my ear, wear ear defenders, or otherwise go into a very quiet
room, then the noise subsides to nearly inaudible.
If I listen to music (not loud), or drive any distance, then this sets the
'noise' going again.
If I play a short tone (12kHz seems to be good), then the 'noise' almost
stops, but restarts slowly after several seconds. The longer I play the
tone, the longer it takes for the 'noise' to start again.
I haven't tried playing this tone for a long period (max about a minute).
So, anyone want to try to hazzard a guess? Is it 'standard' tinnitus? I
thought tinnitus was more to do with the brain, whereas this seems to
originate in the ear.
Ta for reading.
Josepi
coming from the ear. You really can't tell.
This sounds like classic tinnitis. Get to your ENT quickly. If he passes you
off lightly, try another one for a second opinion. There are more qualified
people here to explain this to you better. I was born wtith tinnitis, as far
as I know.
This may just be some wax on your eardrum!
Above all do not get uptight about it. If it bugs you, try listening to it,
enjoy and see if you can make it louder, as a game. I find, eventually the
brain tires of it and it is gone, again.
Some get results from gingko biloba, some from manganese, and many from
anti-anxiety medications. It may get you worse when you are tired, depressed
or mineral deficient (poor health).
It will not hurt you and is only an annoyance and it tends to fade into the
background after some time if your get the right attitude about it.
There are some promoting techniques for adjusting your mental attitude that
can help in severe cases. TRT.
It can't beat you if you don't listen, like a baby crying. Ignore the
prick! (after examination for other
causes)
"Grumps" <not...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Josepi
coming from the ear. You really can't tell.
This sounds like classic tinnitis. Get to your ENT quickly. If he passes you
off lightly, try another one for a second opinion. There are more qualified
people here to explain this to you better. I was born wtith tinnitis, as far
as I know.
This may just be some wax on your eardrum!
Above all do not get uptight about it. If it bugs you, try listening to it,
enjoy and see if you can make it louder, as a game. I find, eventually the
brain tires of it and it is gone, again.
Some get results from gingko biloba, some from manganese, and many from
anti-anxiety medications. It may get you worse when you are tired, depressed
or mineral deficient (poor health).
It will not hurt you and is only an annoyance and it tends to fade into the
background after some time if your get the right attitude about it.
There are some promoting techniques for adjusting your mental attitude that
can help in severe cases. TRT.
Don't let it beat you. Ignore the prick! (after examination for other
causes)
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Grumps
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My neurologist (another story!) said that he thought it a bit unusual that
playing a tone can cause the 'noise' to abate after the tone stops.
I am trying ALL of the suggestions you've made (Gingko, manganese,
anti-anxiety).
Josepi
it takes 50mg of elemental mangansese per day to effect a disappearance of
the noises. I have had good results with manganese years ago by accident. It
took about three months and I did take two 25mg tablets per day. Over the
last few months I have aggravated my tinnitis with some air nailers and othe
tools and have been taking manganese, to no avail. Now that I have read
other reports of quantity I have just increased my dosage to 50mg. Careful
of the elemental label. You may need to take 200-300mg of some cmanganese
compound to get the elemental quantity.
Manganese has also been reported to accelerate Alzheimers, if it starts.
This has never been substantiated by further reports.
Gingko has been reported to work for some. It acts as a blood thinner and
needs to be considered in conjunction with other medications. It can be
serious and unregulated in quantity of content from cheap suppliers.
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>> "Grumps" <not...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Sandman
a long long time, in both ears I have a high pitch noise, which never
goes away. There is no cure, but you need to take care of your other
ear. Stay away from loud noises and wear ear protection whenever
possible in loud situations.
And yes, tinnitus is in the brain...since all sounds are interpreted
there. Experts believe tinnitus is caused by the brain
mis-interpreting signals. Whatever causes it, it's certainly an
annoyance. jack
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:40:07 -0000, "Grumps" <not...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Grumps
> wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>
>>I've had this 'noise' for about 3-4 weeks. I've had two standard hearing
>>tests, and apparently have good hearing for my age (just under 50). Have
>>seen doctor, and now waiting for an ENT appointment.
>>
>>The 'noise' is like a high-pitched squeeling (very high pitch. I estimate
>>it
>>near the limit of my hearing). If I put my finger in my ear, I can hear it
>>fluctuating between two levels of loudness, but the pitch is always the
>>same.
>>If I plug my ear, wear ear defenders, or otherwise go into a very quiet
>>room, then the noise subsides to nearly inaudible.
>>If I listen to music (not loud), or drive any distance, then this sets the
>>'noise' going again.
>>If I play a short tone (12kHz seems to be good), then the 'noise' almost
>>stops, but restarts slowly after several seconds. The longer I play the
>>tone, the longer it takes for the 'noise' to start again.
>>I haven't tried playing this tone for a long period (max about a minute).
>>
>>So, anyone want to try to hazzard a guess? Is it 'standard' tinnitus? I
>>thought tinnitus was more to do with the brain, whereas this seems to
>>originate in the ear.
>>Ta for reading.
>>
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> Yes, I would say that is tinnitus, which I have been dealing with for
> a long long time, in both ears I have a high pitch noise, which never
> goes away. There is no cure, but you need to take care of your other
> ear. Stay away from loud noises and wear ear protection whenever
> possible in loud situations.
> And yes, tinnitus is in the brain...since all sounds are interpreted
> there. Experts believe tinnitus is caused by the brain
> mis-interpreting signals. Whatever causes it, it's certainly an
> annoyance. jack
Yeah, it's annoying!
My 'noise' increases with the loudness of my environment. If I'm somewhere
quiet, then I can make it nearly disappear. If I listen to music, then it
gets quite loud. The pattern changes too. It seems to alternate (roughtly
every second) between low volume and medium volume. The low volume bits can
be masked by the fan in my PC.
I can make mine go away completely for a short period by playing a single
tone (not loud). But it does come back. If I play the tone and then pop an
earplug in, then it remains quiet for much longer.
�Bluto
>When you hear sounds in the brain or anywhere, your brain perceives this as
>coming from the ear. You really can't tell.
>
>This sounds like classic tinnitis. Get to your ENT quickly. If he passes you
>off lightly, try another one for a second opinion. There are more qualified
>people here to explain this to you better. I was born wtith tinnitis, as far
>as I know.
I bet you were born with most diseases on earth.
>
>This may just be some wax on your eardrum!
Guess #1
>
>Above all do not get uptight about it. If it bugs you, try listening to it,
>enjoy and see if you can make it louder, as a game. I find, eventually the
>brain tires of it and it is gone, again.
>
>Some get results from gingko biloba, some from manganese, and many from
>anti-anxiety medications. It may get you worse when you are tired, depressed
>or mineral deficient (poor health).
>
>It will not hurt you and is only an annoyance and it tends to fade into the
>background after some time if your get the right attitude about it.
>
>There are some promoting techniques for adjusting your mental attitude that
>can help in severe cases. TRT.
>
>Don't let it beat you. Ignore the prick! (after examination for other
>causes)
What? No manganese prescription Josepi??
�Bluto
wrote:
Got another live one here Josepi. He's trying all the rip offs that
fools like you offer. I think, as like with you, your problems are
deeper seated somewhere in the brain. Now if GB, manganese and
anti-anxiety don't "cure" it(which it won't..you'd have been better
off buying your wife a nice xmas gift) you might want to listen to
your neuro or an ENT instead of a NG trolling doctor like jackarse
Josepi(the manganese dummy)
�Bluto
>Yes, I would say that is tinnitus, which I have been dealing with for
>a long long time, in both ears I have a high pitch noise, which never
>goes away. There is no cure, but you need to take care of your other
>ear. Stay away from loud noises and wear ear protection whenever
>possible in loud situations.
>And yes, tinnitus is in the brain...since all sounds are interpreted
>there. Experts believe tinnitus is caused by the brain
>mis-interpreting signals. Whatever causes it, it's certainly an
>annoyance. jack
NO CURE????? You mean ENT Dr. Josepi "might" be wrong??
hahahhohohehehehe He's not gonna like it that you said there is no
cure. You must not know about his manganse, GB and other T therapies
that have FULLY PROVEN to beat that nasty T. Read his studies and
claims. How can the jackarse be wrong?
�Bluto
wrote:
Get that manganse quick and alleviate it all. I am sure Dr ENT Josepi
can give you some URLS where you buy some "cheap" from Mexico, Russia
and Nigeria. He uses all those cheap drugs locations. Fighting T is
expensive so get yourself a deal man!
�Bluto
>Careful with all that stuff. It has been reported by some health people that
>it takes 50mg of elemental mangansese per day to effect a disappearance of
>the noises. I have had good results with manganese years ago by accident. It
>took about three months and I did take two 25mg tablets per day. Over the
>last few months I have aggravated my tinnitis with some air nailers and othe
>tools and have been taking manganese, to no avail. Now that I have read
>other reports of quantity I have just increased my dosage to 50mg. Careful
>of the elemental label. You may need to take 200-300mg of some cmanganese
>compound to get the elemental quantity.
Oh, do they package manganese in with air nailiers? Check your head
for a stray air nail in it. Obviously something is amiss deep inside.
>
>Manganese has also been reported to accelerate Alzheimers, if it starts.
>This has never been substantiated by further reports.
Like all your other reports, not substantiated
>
>Gingko has been reported to work for some. It acts as a blood thinner and
>needs to be considered in conjunction with other medications. It can be
>serious and unregulated in quantity of content from cheap suppliers.
You should know, you probably spend all your money on quack cures and
cheap fixes. hahahhhohoheheheh
Grumps
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:)
I'm new here, and new to T. I'll try most things that seem to be rated. I
was wrong about trying manganese. I misread my multimineral label.
But I will continue with GB. It's not that expensive. Yeah I know, double
blind tests show it has no effect.
My 'noise' has changes over the last day. It can still be abated by a single
tone. And seems to be held off by a 16kHz tone. This is above my normal
hearing. So maybe I need to make a portable signal generator.
But the anti-anxiety stuff I've been on for a while; not related to T. But
maybe the T is related to it.
Peter Larsen
> So, anyone want to try to hazzard a guess? Is it 'standard' tinnitus?
Standard noise-damage related tinnitus. The mechanism is that the tinnitus
occurs when the ear tries to recover. The 12 kHz tone pushes it back to
pre-recovery, long term it is likely - my unskilled opinion - to aggravate
your hearing damage.
Same theory in my unskilled opinion applies to all tinnitus maskers. The
problem they solve is a lack of cash in the sellers pocket.
Fix your attitude. The way to do it to listen to your tinnitus as just
another noise rather than actively try to suppress it, it is then that it
gets boring and the brain forgets about it.
I always bring a pair of yellow standard e.a.r. plugs with me, pre-shortened
with a pair of scissors to reduce their attenuation to a suitable amount.
Go to some chamber music concerts, (re-)learn to enjoy listening, the
applause is likely to be a bit annoying, but it is not really unsafe and you
also need to keep your perspective on good and bad noise, chamber music is
good for ya with its wealth of subtle nuances.
Kind regards
Peter Larsen
Josepi
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>
>> So, anyone want to try to hazzard a guess? Is it 'standard' tinnitus?
>
> Standard noise-damage related tinnitus.
Except I can not remember ever being exposed to loud noise.
> The mechanism is that the tinnitus occurs when the ear tries to recover.
> The 12 kHz tone pushes it back to pre-recovery, long term it is likely -
> my unskilled opinion - to aggravate your hearing damage.
However, the skilled opinion (sought elsewhere) is that this is the normal
rebound principle.
> Same theory in my unskilled opinion applies to all tinnitus maskers. The
> problem they solve is a lack of cash in the sellers pocket.
You're trying to be too clever.
> Fix your attitude. The way to do it to listen to your tinnitus as just
> another noise rather than actively try to suppress it, it is then that it
> gets boring and the brain forgets about it.
Indeed. I agree with this.
> I always bring a pair of yellow standard e.a.r. plugs with me,
> pre-shortened with a pair of scissors to reduce their attenuation to a
> suitable amount.
>
> Go to some chamber music concerts, (re-)learn to enjoy listening, the
> applause is likely to be a bit annoying,
Loud sounds, like applause, are not annoying to me.
> but it is not really unsafe and you also need to keep your perspective on
> good and bad noise, chamber music is good for ya with its wealth of subtle
> nuances.
Thanks.
fyf...@gmail.com
Tinnitus is best treated 2 weeks after it is detected. Your T is
getting old while you are waiting for an ENT doctor.
I would not waste too much time asking 'why', as tinnitus is very
complicated. Instead, I would resort to whatever works for me.
You wrote above:"The longer I play the
> tone, the longer it takes for the 'noise' to start again.
> I haven't tried playing this tone for a long period (max about a minute).
>
Why not do it everyday? Wear an earplug with the note sound.
I would if i were you do something to improve the blood circulation in
the head, either by taking med or doing exercises. Try and see if an
improved blood circulation system would help.