Need info pls re TSH
Allison Charline
I just found out my TSH was .06, and this was by a fluke. I went to the
skin dr. to have some little pre-cancerous things taken off and
complained about my recent more-than-usual hair loss and total inability
to lose weight even though I am on a constant 700 calorie a day diet and
walk 30 minutes a day (which is hard with a bum knee). My regular (I
guess that is T-4 is within the normal range.)
What are some of the symptoms of HYPERthyroid. That is what my general
practictioner said that the .06 indicates. The failure to lose weigh no
matter what I do, I thought, meant I had a low thyroid.
I am so confused now. I was told to go to an endocrinologist, but there
is none in our area. The only one is about 35 miles away and I am at a
very busy point at my job and can't take off for it for at least another
2 weeks. I have been on .2 Levolyx and Cytomil for about 2 months. I
used to be on .3 levoxyl, My doctor is lousy at explaining things. I
just must lose this weight and feel better, but now I don't know whether
to continue the .2 levoxyl or what. I have discontinued the cytomel as
of 2 days ago. I have every symptom of HYPOthryroidism and NONE of
hyperthyroidism.
Thanks for any info you can give me.
Sara Avery
symptoms (be hypo). My TSH is 0.1, but my Free T3, which is considered by
more progressive docs to be a better guage of actual thyroid hormone
activity in the body was still very low - i.e. my TSH was in the very hyper
range, but I was still hypo.
I'm very concerned about the fact that you are on 700 calories a day. You
are not helping yourself this way. You are shutting down your metabolism
even further and your body is burning it's own muscle to keep those 30
minute walks going. I know it's scary, but you really need to add calories.
Have you checked out one of the lowcarb plans? They have worked great for
many of us. IMO, the best plan out there is "The Schwarzbein Principle",
developed by Dr. Diana Schwarzbein for her diabetic patients. It may take
you a while to heal your metabolism if you've been doing this low cal thing
for a while. Your body is almost definitely in starvation mode at this
point, conserving every little bit of food you put in and slowing all your
body functions down to conserve energy.
Good luck:-)
Sara
Michael Johnson
I was diagnosed Hyper about 3 weeks ago. I found out I had Grave's a few
days ago. I have put a post here with all my test results (if you are
interested) 29/5 - subject - Questions on Hyper under Michael Johnson (our
email account is in my hubby's name).
My symptoms are (I believe that these are usual and they sometimes come and
go) - tremour in hands, shaky feelings in body, palpitations, high blood
pressure, high resting pulse rate (usually 120 per minute), memory lapses,
thought blocking, huge appetite, nausea, increase bowel motions (sometimes 6
per day and often diarrhea), insomnia, increased irritability, feeling
anxious, worried, depressed and crying easily at the drop of a hat, dry
skin, loosing more hair and hair has gone quite dull and brittle (used to be
glorious - if I say so myself!!!).
These symptoms have been worse for the last month. I have not lost weight,
but I do eat more than I used to. With the treatment I have to be very
careful to adjust my eating or I will balloon.
Have you had the other thyroid function tests? If so post them with the lab
ranges so others can advise. Do you have a goiter (enlargement of the
thyroid)?
I sorry to hear that the endo is so far away. This is the best person to
understand, explain and treat your problems (if they are indeed thyroid
related). I can't say how better I feel now. I didn't want to take time off
work, but I had no choice - I couldn't cope there any longer. I've had the
last week off - had all my tests and seen the doc a couple of times. I have
started treatment and should go back to work tomorrow. I am grateful for the
time off as I had the opportunity to sort it all out quickly and start to
feel better with some rest and without the hassles of coping with work as
well.
Try to read all the info you can find on the net. The about.com pages (sorry
I don't know how to put in the correct address as a link that you click on
to, but if you type in www.about.com and then search for thyroid you will
get there.) are great and you can get a free thyroid newsletter.
I really think you ought to get to the endo as soon as you can, but in the
meantime, get all the thyroid tests done and get info. I am sure you can be
hyper without losing weight and having symptoms similar to hypo - many of
them are. The quicker you find out for sure, the better you will feel.
Good luck
Caroline
AH
you are just a tad over medicated (your diagnosis WAS hypo, right? I assume
that's why you are taking thyroid hormone?). "I have been on .2 Levolyx and
Cytomil for about 2 months."
At any rate you need to see whomever put you on the meds in the first place
for a full thyroid panel including free t3, free t4, and the antibodies.
It's not uncommon for one to show a very low tsh in response to cytomel, SO
it may be that you aren't over medicated AT ALL, and only the free t3 and
free t4 tests will show if you are in range or not. PS: do not take meds
before test and have test first am.
--
Alyson
"Allison Charline" <asto...@home.com> wrote in message
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ccoady
> I just found out my TSH was .06, and this was by a fluke.
> to lose weight even though I am on a constant 700 calorie a day diet and
> guess that is T-4 is within the normal range.)
Boy, can I ever relate to this as I am almost exactly the same. My TSH was
.07, and I am living on salads and bagels and cannot lose not one little
pound. I have an appmt. with my endo June 20th and if I have any info at
that time I'll post it. In the meantime, it's nice to see someone the
same.
What are some of the symptoms of HYPERthyroid. That is what my general
> practictioner said that the .06 indicates. The failure to lose weigh no
> matter what I do, I thought, meant I had a low thyroid.
I was told .07 was hyper as well, but I can assure you, we are NOT hyper as
I have been that also. When you are hyper you can easily lose weight and I
was always very, very anxious and hot.
I have been on .2 Levolyx and Cytomil for about 2 months. I
> used to be on .3 levoxyl, My doctor is lousy at explaining things. I
> just must lose this weight and feel better, but now I don't know whether
> to continue the .2 levoxyl or what. I have discontinued the cytomel as
> of 2 days ago. I have every symptom of HYPOthryroidism and NONE of
> hyperthyroidism.
I am hoping to convince my endo to let me try Cytomel as right now I'm just
on Synthroid.
Hope you get some answers - I'll be reading them too.
Cheryl
BL 1204
>.07, and I am living on salads and bagels and cannot lose not one little
>pound.
This may be part of the problem. Maybe you would do better on a high protein
diet like Eades. A lot of MDs in my city are on a high protein diet and they
love it.
BL
John Riggs
symptoms. "Why?" you ask. Well, it has something to do with the fact that T3
is the hormone we actually run on ( sorta like the difference between gas in
your car's carburetor and the gas in your tank ( the car analogy again ).
The gas in your car is pumped from the tank ( relate to T4 hormone here )
and converted into gas vapor ( think T3 here ) in the carburetor ( relate to
pituitary gland ). It's the same stuff but it's changed a bit in the process
of carburetion. Similarly, T4 is converted to T3. TSH is a pituitary
response to the presence of T4 in your system( relates to the fuel gauge in
your car ). I can run my car all day by pouring gas into the carburetor and
to do it I would have to adjust the carburetor to receive less gas from the
tank. At best I will run crappy 'cause I will be trying to do what the
carburetor does automatically. Guess work at best. I can get real close but
it won't be the same. The tank ( again with the T4 reference ) will appear
to be remaining full ( or going down REALLY slow ) so the fuel gauge (
think TSH here ) will remain on full for a really long time ( think low TSH
here ). With that being the case the carburetor ( again, pituitary gland )
will not sense a need to get more gas from the tank ( T4 ) because it thinks
it everything is fine and results in a full reading on the gauge ( low
TSH ). Everything can look peachy on the outside but the car is still not
running at optimal.
Did I get the analogy right this time?
Any way, you need to get a full thyroid panel done that tells you all
the levels of all the thyroid hormones to know what is actually going on
inside. Your TSH may be low because of the use of Cytomel but the other real
levels are what is important and so the complete panel is necessary. At that
point you'll have a point of reference to start from.
"ccoady" <cco...@nfld.com> wrote in message
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>
> > I just found out my TSH was .06, and this was by a fluke.
> > complained about my recent more-than-usual hair loss and total inability
> > to lose weight even though I am on a constant 700 calorie a day diet and
> > walk 30 minutes a day My regular (I
> > guess that is T-4 is within the normal range.)
>
> Boy, can I ever relate to this as I am almost exactly the same. My TSH
was
> .07, and I am living on salads and bagels and cannot lose not one little
nvannest
I have been on Synthroid and Cytomel for about a year now, and my TSH is
generally about 0.13. I am not hyper, that is just what happens to my TSH
when I am taking the Cytomel. My doctor and I don't pay much attention to
the TSH anymore, but rely on FT3 and FT4 tests to keep me in balance. My
FT3 and FT4 levels are just about in the middle of the range and I feel
fine. Maybe your doctor will use the same approach and test the Free T3 and
Free T4 and go by those results. Good luck.
Nancy
"BL 1204" <bl1...@aol.comforgetit> wrote in message
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> >Boy, can I ever relate to this as I am almost exactly the same. My TSH
was
> >.07, and I am living on salads and bagels and cannot lose not one little
> >pound.
>
ccoady
"do" eat enough protein.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cheryl
BL 1204 <bl1...@aol.comforgetit> wrote in article
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BL 1204
>"do" eat enough protein.
>Any help would be appreciated.
>Cheryl
>
Cheryl-- go to Amazon and look up "Protein Power" by Eades. Another
possibility is the Atkins diet. If you want something less drastic look at The
Zone (Barry Sears). It can be virtually impossible for hypo people to lose
weight on a vegetarian, low protein diet, even when calories are restricted.
This has to do with insulin release-- don't get me to explain it beyond that
because I will probably err in my explanation.
There is a misnomer of a diet out there that I may try-- Mayo clinic diet.
LOL. The Mayo Clinic has nothing to do with the diet. Here's the diet-- you
eat half a grapefruit with each meal. At breakfast you get all the bacon and
eggs you want. At lunch you eat a big salad with real salad dressing, and a
serving of meat. At supper, meat, vegetables and salad with real salad
dressing. See what's missing? No bread, cake, cookies, crackers, milk,
cheese, etc.
Eating too few calories can cause you to gain weight, because your body
conserves energy by slowing the metabolism.
BL
Mydidit
what does this mean:
T3 within normal
T4 below normal
TSH above normal
my gauge (TSH) is showing too little gas (T4), but my carbuerator (T3) is still
getting gas?
how can i get more gas and fix the gauge without hormones?
Maggie
<< Well, it has something to do with the fact that T3
is the hormone we actually run on ( sorta like the difference between gas in
your car's carburetor and the gas in your tank ( the car analogy again ).
The gas in your car is pumped from the tank ( relate to T4 hormone here )
and converted into gas vapor ( think T3 here ) in the carburetor ( relate to
pituitary gland ). It's the same stuff but it's changed a bit in the process
of carburetion. Similarly, T4 is converted to T3. TSH is a pituitary
response to the presence of T4 in your system( relates to the fuel gauge in
your car ). I can run my car all day by pouring gas into the carburetor and
to do it I would have to adjust the carburetor to receive less gas from the
tank. At best I will run crappy 'cause I will be trying to do what the
carburetor does automatically. Guess work at best. I can get real close but
it won't be the same. The tank ( again with the T4 reference ) will appear
to be remaining full ( or going down REALLY slow ) so the fuel gauge (
think TSH here ) will remain on full for a really long time ( think low TSH
here ). With that being the case the carburetor ( again, pituitary gland )
will not sense a need to get more gas from the tank ( T4 ) because it thinks
it everything is fine and results in a full reading on the gauge ( low
TSH ). Everything can look peachy on the outside but the car is still not
running at optimal.
>>
Maggie
Every day, do something for your body, your mind, and your spirit
Matthew McGloin
>what does this mean:
>T3 within normal
>T4 below normal
>TSH above normal
>
>my gauge (TSH) is showing too little gas (T4), but my carbuerator (T3) is
>still
>getting gas?
>
>how can i get more gas and fix the gauge without hormones?
>
>Maggie
>
><< Well, it has something to do with the fact that T3
>is the hormone we actually run on ( sorta like the difference between gas in
>your car's carburetor and the gas in your tank ( the car analogy again ).
>The gas in your car is pumped from the tank ( relate to T4 hormone here )
>and converted into gas vapor ( think T3 here ) in the carburetor ( relate to
>pituitary gland ). It's the same stuff but it's changed a bit in the process
>of carburetion. Similarly, T4 is converted to T3. TSH is a pituitary
>response to the presence of T4 in your system( relates to the fuel gauge in
>your car ). I can run my car all day by pouring gas into the carburetor and
>to do it I would have to adjust the carburetor to receive less gas from the
>tank. At best I will run crappy 'cause I will be trying to do what the
>carburetor does automatically. Guess work at best. I can get real close but
>it won't be the same. The tank ( again with the T4 reference ) will appear
>to be remaining full ( or going down REALLY slow ) so the fuel gauge (
>think TSH here ) will remain on full for a really long time ( think low TSH
>here ). With that being the case the carburetor ( again, pituitary gland )
>will not sense a need to get more gas from the tank ( T4 ) because it thinks
>it everything is fine and results in a full reading on the gauge ( low
>TSH ). Everything can look peachy on the outside but the car is still not
>running at optimal.
> >>
>
>
>
>Maggie
>Every day, do something for your body, your mind, and your spirit
>
>
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-Matt McGloin
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Mydidit
has potassium, etc?
>>interesting analogy - one that i could finally understand. in my case,
>tho,
>>what does this mean:
>>T3 within normal
>>T4 below normal
>>TSH above normal
>>
>>my gauge (TSH) is showing too little gas (T4), but my carbuerator (T3)
>is
>>still
>>getting gas?
>>
>>how can i get more gas and fix the gauge without hormones?
>>
>>Maggie
>>
>I have the same problem. I take T4 though.
Lois
: what is T4 made from? can you get it without taking pills, i.e., like a
banana
: has potassium, etc?
Well, you could get hold of a pig's thyroid and cook it and eat it, but I
don't know how you'd measure the daily dose. I think I read here that that
was the treatment in the olden days. T4 is a thyroid hormone, not a
nutrient, so I don't think bananas will do it, altho they're a lot more fun
to eat than taking pills....
Lois