Where did you get that desiccated thyroid?
Lois
writing. I know its availability in Canada and the US, but I'm not
sure about the specifics in other countries.
For those who aren't sure about the terms, desiccated thyroid is
natural thyroid from pigs' thyroids. The best-known brand name is
Armour.
Armour is imported to the UK, but how many doctors will prescribe
it there? Only a few, or are there more but hard to find? How do
you find them? Do only a few pharmacies carry it?
Is it imported to other countries? If so, how easy/difficult is it
to get a prescription?
Thanks,
Lois
Simon Waters
>
> Armour is imported to the UK, but how many doctors will prescribe
> it there? Only a few, or are there more but hard to find? How do
> you find them? Do only a few pharmacies carry it?
Only a few pharmacies carry Armour, but other dessicated thyroid
products are more widely available due to licencing
restrictions.
Armour isn't registered in the UK as I understand it, which
means a special licence is required to import it for a pharmacy.
Individuals on the other hand can import it quite easily for
their own use.
Quite a lot of doctors have little clue on the regulations on
what they can and can't prescribe above and beyond the usual hot
topics, and if it isn't in their regular paperwork may not know
what to do.
Few doctors will be keen to prescribe medications not covered by
the MCA or other relevant regulatory bodies, as they probably
want to keep their licence to practice.
Thyroid UK remains the best source of information.
http://www.thyroiduk.org/
> Is it imported to other countries? If so, how easy/difficult is it
> to get a prescription?
I think you need to be specific on countries, there are a lot
out there.
Lois
: Only a few pharmacies carry Armour, but other dessicated thyroid
: products are more widely available due to licencing
: restrictions.
This is the first I've heard of other desiccated thyroid products
in the UK. Can you tell me more?
: Armour isn't registered in the UK as I understand it, which
: means a special licence is required to import it for a pharmacy.
: Individuals on the other hand can import it quite easily for
: their own use.
Do they need a prescription? Where do they import it from?
<useful info snipped>
: Thyroid UK remains the best source of information.
: http://www.thyroiduk.org/
I searched that site, and I couldn't find the specific info I'm
looking for.
To add to what I wrote in my last post, I'm writing a page about
desiccated thyroid for the a.s.t. site. After the "What It Is"
intro, I want to include a short "Where It Is" section summarizing
the availability of desiccated thyroid in the countries that I
have info about. The majority of the posters here are from the US,
the UK, and Canada, with a few (?) in Europe and Australia. (Sorry
if I missed anyone.) I'd like to cover at least the first 3 areas,
and the others if possible.
: I think you need to be specific on countries, there are a lot
: out there.
I don't expect people to post about countries they don't know
about, but I'm hoping that people will post about their own
countries (except I already know enough about the US and Canada).
Thanks,
Lois
Mieke Zwolsman
Here in the Netherlands we have one pharmacy importing ArmourThyroid via
Broda Barnes.
The International Pharmacy is located in Venlo and is distributor in the
Netherlands for other pharmacies.
Just over the border we can buy ArmourThyroid (with prescription) in a
pharmacy in Antwerp in Belgium.
I got this Belgium list with 21 other Armour pharmacies from Broda Barnes.
In Belgium it is cheaper than in the Netherlands (100 x 60 mg-1 grain=23,18
Euro)
Here in The Netherlands via Venlo we have to pay for 100 x 1 grain=38,55
Euro.
I also know one German pharmacy just over the border, but the prices are
unknown.
On the other hand we have some willing doctors who are prescribing thyroid
powder.
All the dessicated thyroid powder used in the Netherlands comes from Kastrup
in Denmark.
The ratio is not stable, but thyroid powder users are very happy with this
dessicated powder.
The ratio is about 3.1.
It is cheap: 100 capsules x 1 grain= 9,26 Euro.
Now we are trying to import the Full Strength thyroid powder from ALI in
Nevada US.
This is the producer of all the dessicated powder in the US, like
ArmourThyroid.
The effort we made to import the ALI powder is only for the reassurance of
our doctors.
Because of the stable ratio of 4.22.
We want to try to manufacture tablets of the ALI powder.
For all these kind of medication we need a prescription.
It is quit difficult to find a doctor who is willing to prescribe this
medicine.
Hopefully I sketched a more or less usefull picture of our local situation.
Kind regards,
Mieke (The Netherlands)
PS 1 Euro = 1 Dollar
Mark
is a link to a US company that sells glandular. our endo saw it and said it
contains T3/T4, unfortunately, in unknown amounts. you'd be better with
armour.
i'm working on finding a mexico pharmacy that will ship armour.
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Nora Grøndal
Thyroid powder is the old-fashioned thyroidinum dessicatum that has been
used for over 100 years and all pharmacies used to have it.
Where in Kastrup does the thyroid powder come from?
Kastrup is not so far from Norway.
In Australia Stenlake pharmacy gets thyroid powder from america and it
is absolutely consistent and they make medicine from it.
www.stenlake.com or something like that. Jan from thyroid about.com
forum has actually seen the box and the powder.
By the way Natyrethroid (I heard it is from from organically fed
pigs)has been registered in the EU see article by Mary Shomon.
We get Armour thyroid here in norway and Balderklinikken writes
prescriptions. www.balderklinikken.no We should get naturethroid too
because EU things apply for us too because of a treaty. But it is very
expensive for us.
If you make some in holland that will make it much cheaper for us and
then it would be automaticallyapproved here too because of this treaty
and in all EU.
(Armour is considered unsafe biological material here)
nora
norway
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Mieke Zwolsman
Dutch users who refused to use the synthetic levothyroxine.
BIOFAC A/S
350-356 Englandsvej
DK-2770 Kastrup
tel.: + 45 70 10 30 20 ask Niels Thiesen. He is a chemical engineer
working in the laboratories of Biofac.
Without any problem he send me a sample of 100 gram of this powder
including a certificate of analysis. This certificate is a statutory
requirement/obligated, to fulfil the European Pharmacopeia or to
the United States Pharmacopeia (USP). The European one is strict
compared to the USP. Nevertheless untill now NL accept the USP.
The ALI (American Laboratories Incorporated) manufactures this
stable powder (ratio 4,22) and are the only US processors.
Before using this powder in the Netherlands,
every charge has to be tested to require this (pharmacopeia) certificate
(costs ca. 700 Euro!).
Natyrethroid? Interesting! Do you know the producer?
(Armour has also the USPqualification. It means that it is clean and
stable.)
Mieke, the Netherlands.
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Simon Waters
>
> : Thyroid UK remains the best source of information.
> : http://www.thyroiduk.org/
>
> I searched that site, and I couldn't find the specific info I'm
> looking for.
It is usually in their newsletter - printed.
Try mailing enqu...@thyroiduk.org I'm sure they would like a
website about the topic to link to.
They mention; Armour thyroid, Westhroid, nature-throid,
bio-throid, and Thyroid URL, as natural thyroid products in
October 2001 newsletter. The Broda Barnes foundation again
features as the main source of Armour.
Updates have been made since OCtober 2001 on the topic, and the
newsletter also discusses practicalities and legal issues
surrounding obtaining medications outside of normal channels.
Nora Grøndal
http://forums.about.com/ab-thyroiduk/messages?msg=893.1
you might have to log in.
copy follows:
>From: SWILLMINGTON 2/7/2002 6:36 pm
To: ALL (1 of 7)
893.1
Hello! This is Sunny from Western Research Labs in Phoenix Arizona. We
make Nature-Throid - the only hypoallergenic, natural, prescription
thyroid medication on the market. I have been working REALLY hard to get
Nature-Throid to my fellow country folk back home in the UK and am
absolutely delighted to let you know that you can now fill your
prescriptions in one of 2 ways.
Firstly you can use Idis Pharmaceuticals - your Doctor needs to call
them with your prescription. They are in Surrey 020 8410 0700, find them
at www.idis.co.uk. They fill prescriptions on a named patient basis.
Secondly, there is an international pharmacy in Wisconsin USA who will
fill your prescriptions - on a prescription only basis they are allowed
to do this. They are called the Womens International Pharmacy (608)
221-7800.
If you have any further questions please feel free to email me at
sunnywil...@hotmail.com and invite your Doctors to call us (or
Idis) for further information - our number in the USA is 623-879-8683
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June Sampson
I've been following this thread with interest. Have you any idea where the
thyroid powder comes from which is made into tablets which are sold in
Canada under the name Thyroid? I've ended up running around in circles on
this one. The Canadian product is made by Parke Davis which is a subsidiary
of Warner Lambert which is a subsidiary of Pfyzer. The plant for Parke Davis
is not in Canada, but in Detroit. They claim that they are the providers of
the raw materials, like powders, for medications in general, but depend on
Holland for the technology to make them into pills. However, I don't seem to
be able to get specific info re Thyroid, only what is printed in the Armour
website. Are Armour and Thyroid perhaps *exactly* the same medicatiion, but
with different names when they are shipped to different countries?
Interesting. Can you add to this?
Best, June
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Nora Grøndal
from America where all thyroid powder comes from. It is absolutely
consistent.
Jan is called "teadady" on the thyroid.about.com forum maybe you can ask
her more questions. The pharmacy showed her the container the thyroid
powder comes in and told her where it comes from.
nora
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Jen
30p for 1 grain tablet and 44p for 2 grain tablet.
Jen
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Cavalier
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> i'm working on finding a mexico pharmacy that will ship armour.
http://www.medsmex.com/prod-list_1.html
just came across this - no idea about its validity