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Jef.  
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 More options Nov 11, 6:16 pm
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From: "Jef." <j...@quitbuddies.org>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:16:12 -0500
Local: Wed, Nov 11 2009 6:16 pm
Subject: Veteran's Day Salute...
... to a couple of vets I cared about, deeply.

http://www.quitbuddies.org/


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Mark Earnest  
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 More options Nov 11, 6:55 pm
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From: "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:55:40 -0600
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Subject: Re: Veteran's Day Salute...

"Jef." <j...@quitbuddies.org> wrote in message

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> ... to a couple of vets I cared about, deeply.

> http://www.quitbuddies.org/

They sure didn't go overseas for the money, Jef.
They did it for you and me and for their posterity.

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SteveS  
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From: SteveS <inyo...@spamm.ers>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:13:12 -0500
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Subject: Re: Veteran's Day Salute...
Love it.
Airborne, Sir, All The Way!
SteveS
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From: msmomo2u <suzmthomp...@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:20:13 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Veteran's Day Salute...
Peace and Hugs Jef.
For us all.
Wonderful photos.
Thanks so much.
Suzie.

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FlatIronMike  
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From: FlatIronMike <flatironmike...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:10:18 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Veteran's Day Salute...
Thanks for sharing the Slash Page with us, Jef.!  I do truly believe
the generation who fought WWII were forged from steel that is NOT made
here in America anymore.  I do appreciate the freedom they gave us,
many with their lives.

FlatironMike
Two years, nine months, one day, 15 hours, 40 minutes and 17 seconds.
20113 cigarettes not smoked, saving $6,033.92. Life saved: 9 weeks, 6
days, 20 hours, 5 minutes.


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Wayne Baker  
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 More options Nov 12, 6:38 pm
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From: Wayne Baker <nospamloansarran...@cox.net>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:38:01 GMT
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Subject: Re: Veteran's Day Salute...
FlatIronMike <flatironmike...@gmail.com> wrote in news:7f14396d-21a0-
4b05-9779-d096516a8...@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:

> Thanks for sharing the Slash Page with us, Jef.!  I do truly believe
> the generation who fought WWII were forged from steel that is NOT made
> here in America anymore.  I do appreciate the freedom they gave us,
> many with their lives.

> FlatironMike
> Two years, nine months, one day, 15 hours, 40 minutes and 17 seconds.
> 20113 cigarettes not smoked, saving $6,033.92. Life saved: 9 weeks, 6
> days, 20 hours, 5 minutes.

I have to respectfully take exception with you here Mike.  Our men and
women of the Armed Services ARE forged from the same steel that is made
here in America.  In our system, the military must follow the orders of
civilian politicians.  I would submit that it is these politicians who
are no longer made from steel here in America.  I'm also not quite sure
that the American people have the stomach anymore for what it takes to
win a war.  Wars are ugly, nasty and horrible events.  But if we must
fight one, then lets fight it and not shackle our soldiers, sailors and
airmen with PC rules that make it impossible for them to win a battle.  
And lets not hestitate in sending reinforcements because we're busy
figuring out how its going to affect our political future.  If we don't
want to fight the war to win, then lets bring them all home NOW.  But,
please, don't leave our best in harm's way without the resources to
complete their mission as quickly as possible.

---
Wayne Baker (stepping down off my soap box now)
Smoke Free:  1m 2w 4d 9:36
+Not Smoked:   1,410
$ Better Spent:  $324.30


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FlatIronMike  
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 More options Nov 12, 8:46 pm
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From: FlatIronMike <flatironmike...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:46:51 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Veteran's Day Salute...
Wayne, we more more on the same page than maybe you read what I
wrote.  What I meant is that America has lost that drive, not
specifically the men and women in the service.  I fully believe THEY
can do their job, but as you pointed out so well, politicians are more
concerned about image than doing the right thing.  And the public?  As
long as there is no draft, nobody will notice that more and more
bodies are coming back in body bags because we're all out shopping.

FlatironMike
Two years, nine months, one day, 22 hours, 16 minutes and 56 seconds.
20118 cigarettes not smoked, saving $6,035.57. Life saved: 9 weeks, 6
days, 20 hours, 30 minutes.


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 More options Nov 12, 11:58 pm
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From: DavidL <dvd...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:58:11 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 11:58 pm
Subject: Re: Veteran's Day Salute...
On Nov 11, 5:16 pm, "Jef." <j...@quitbuddies.org> wrote:

> ... to a couple of vets I cared about, deeply.

> http://www.quitbuddies.org/

Jef.  those pics are awesome...
And your Mom coulda been a movie star!!!!

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Jef.  
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 More options Nov 13, 12:26 am
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From: "Jef." <j...@quitbuddies.org>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:26:01 -0500
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Subject: Re: Veteran's Day Salute...
"DavidL"  wrote

Jef.  those pics are awesome...
And your Mom coulda been a movie star!!!!

Thanks, David. No argument here. She was quite lovely. Yep. Merely another
example of the famous Hyde luck in action-- along with my
great-grandfather's decision not to throw in with his friend on an unusually
sharp real estate deal. He, in his infinite wisdom, turned down an offer to
buy several blocks of Broadway, in New York in the early 1850's... Sigh...!

http://www.worldsoldestlivingboy.com/Reach%20For%20The%20Sky.html


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 More options Nov 13, 12:53 am
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From: DavidL <dvd...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:53:15 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Veteran's Day Salute...
On Nov 12, 11:26 pm, "Jef." <j...@quitbuddies.org> wrote:

> "DavidL"  wrote

> Jef.  those pics are awesome...
> And your Mom coulda been a movie star!!!!

> Thanks, David. No argument here. She was quite lovely. Yep. Merely another
> example of the famous Hyde luck in action-- along with my
> great-grandfather's decision not to throw in with his friend on an unusually
> sharp real estate deal. He, in his infinite wisdom, turned down an offer to
> buy several blocks of Broadway, in New York in the early 1850's... Sigh...!

> http://www.worldsoldestlivingboy.com/Reach%20For%20The%20Sky.html

I guess I never finished reading all the stories.....

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From: "DutchVanAfoort" <znib...@fakeAddy.con>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:45:55 +0100
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Subject: Re: Veteran's Day Salute...
Love that story Jef!

"Jef." <> schreef in bericht ...


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 More options Nov 13, 7:32 am
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From: kestrel <joyh...@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:32:05 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Veteran's Day Salute...
On Nov 11, 6:16 pm, "Jef." <j...@quitbuddies.org> wrote:

> ... to a couple of vets I cared about, deeply.

> http://www.quitbuddies.org/

Jef, I remember so much about WWII, from the day that FDR made the
announcement that we were at war, to the dropping of the two A-Bombs
on Nagasaki and Hiroshima.  We were on a train going from New York to
California sometime between the dropping of the two bombs.  I also
remember the radio announcement of FDR's death.  I was at home alone;
everyone else had gone off to a carnival at a local church.  When I
heard the news, I ran over to the churchyard to tell them.  It was the
first day I ever wore lipstick; it was Tangee Natural.  I don't think
anyone noticed.

A couple of my stepmother's brothers went to war.  Uncle Paulie was
sent to Italy, maybe because he spoke Italian, and Uncle Joey, the
youngest, joined the Navy and was stationed on Guam when it ended.  He
stayed there, married a Guamese woman, had lots of childen and had a
chicken ranch.  Paulie stayed in Italy when it was over and never came
back.  Joey was in touch with some of his brothers and sisters and
finally did come back to visit and there was a big family reunion in
California.  I didn't go, mainly because I was estranged from my
family many years ago, but I did keep in touch with a half-brother and
half-sister.  My half-sister sent me a video of the reunion.  It was
strange to see all those semi-relatives that I hadn't seen in years.
Aunt Lou (Lucy) was there being obstreperous as usual into her '70's.
She had been a burlesque dancer in her youth and used to practice her
bumps and grinds in the kitchen.  The video shows her doing those same
bumps.

I learned a few useful things from my Italian step-relatives. How to
swear in Italian (the Sicilian variety), and how to make real
spaghetti and meatballs.  There is a scene in the Godfather, where the
men have "gone to the mattresses" and one of the soldiers was cooking
and explaining to Michael how to make spaghetti and meatballs.  It's
the same way I do it when I really feel like going to a lot of
trouble.  Even down to throwing some sugar into the tomato sauce.

My own mother was German and she died when I was about 7 years old.
My father remarried into this Sicilian clan.

Thanks for the photos of your mom and dad.  They look very happy to be
together.

Joyce
11 Years+


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Wayne Baker  
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 More options Nov 13, 3:52 pm
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From: Wayne Baker <nospamloansarran...@cox.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:52:46 GMT
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Subject: Re: Veteran's Day Salute...
FlatIronMike <flatironmike...@gmail.com> wrote in news:c625a43c-63cf-456c-
9a1b-2b154271e...@e20g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:

> Wayne, we more more on the same page than maybe you read what I
> wrote.  What I meant is that America has lost that drive, not
> specifically the men and women in the service.  I fully believe THEY
> can do their job, but as you pointed out so well, politicians are more
> concerned about image than doing the right thing.  And the public?  As
> long as there is no draft, nobody will notice that more and more
> bodies are coming back in body bags because we're all out shopping.

> FlatironMike
> Two years, nine months, one day, 22 hours, 16 minutes and 56 seconds.
> 20118 cigarettes not smoked, saving $6,035.57. Life saved: 9 weeks, 6
> days, 20 hours, 30 minutes.

Thanks for clarifying and setting me straight Mike.  :-)

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