Well that sonofaFucking btch Lying ass mutha fuckin Bullshit....
because...Im not gonna fucking lie here)...I feel WORSE...I feel like
Im inside someone elses fucking skin...
(now, this may have something to do with my PTSD.....and if I DO have
PTSD...well, them, Im REALLY FUCKING MAD!!)
now...back to my feelings
I feel like (RIGHT NOW) like I just fucking quit this past week !!!
Ive noticed...that I have encountered what is known as TRIGGERS...well
fucking flow farts !!!
A Trigger is on a gun Right??
Why do they call it a trigger ???
Who's finger is ON THAT FUCKIN TRIGGER ???
and where is the Consequence pointed at...my fuckin head I bet.
Trigger No (who the fuck knows,,,i lost count) lets say...
ONE 1) Looking for Work !!! or ...being OUT OF WORK !!! Mutha
fucker !....uh...isnt it fitting, all fucking evening my throat has
been constricting...mouth dry and thirsty...and a crave in my blood
stream for something ...that something has a clinical name...a
chemical name...yeah...you got it.,...NICOFUCKINTINE.
Just like when my mouth is sooooo fucking thirsty...so is my blood and
brain.,...my emotions are screaming to be put to sleep.
2) MOVING...or Looking for a place to move TO....yeah...thats going on
too.
3) Abusive fucking people - Conivers, sneaks, liars, Two-Faced fucks,
deceivers...Woman (not all, but all the nasty fucking psychos seemed
to be flocking to me, like Im having some GIGANTIC FUCKING WHITE SALE
on Sanity and Emotions...and they all gotta make sure they get a
piece.
4) a conversation with Dear Ol Mom (God I love her, but heck...I dont
have anymore brain cells left )
5) money money money money (the LACK OF)
6) one fucked up existance here in Fla Fla Land.
When does it get better???? A Fucking YEAR ????
Im 3 months...and today...a crave to smoke came on me like a GOOD OL
FUCKING FRIEND !!! and ya know what? I miss having a good ol friend
to be with...Ive had nothing but fucking Vampires...dressed up and
disguised as caring, thoughtful, empathetic women.....Demons DO
possess people in the 2oth & 21st century...
just that we were taught that demons look ugly with horns and fangs
and scales for skin - - B U L L S H I T !!!
They could look like your next door neighbor, they could look like
anything from a Jessica Simpson to a Brad fuckin Pitt.
ok...ok...
Im not done yet..I still have this Fucking crave...and Ive had it
since 6 oclock...I even thought about getting a pack while I was
getting gas....but I didnt...but I dont know WHY I didnt.........guess
cause I didnt want to have to get on here (this board) and have to
tell you guys that I Blew it.
ok..ive got the psychopath now calling my cell phone as i type -
anyway...where the fuck was i?
im not drunk...im not on drugs ..im just fucking P I S S E D O F
F W I T H T H E F U C K I N G
W O R L D !!!
and no...i dont feel better.
my fucking life sucks - im too fucking nice...then, i get fucked over.
ya know...i could be a fucking asshole...i cam be a prick...and not
give a fucking shit about nobody but myself...i just aint fucking cut
out that fucking way....
ive got LOTSA fucking issues...like my almost constant need to fucking
curse..
I am so sorry that you feel so angry and hurt, and I know you've been going
through a really hard time. Just know that, here, there are a whole lot of
people rooting for you. It seems to me that lately you had kind of turned a
corner emotionally. What I mean, is that while you've had the crap
happening in your life, you almost started to look at it with a bit of a
sense of humor in a way -- so like when something happens you have kind of
rolled your eyes and said "well, so what the fuck else is new" and moved
along. And then I saw you starting to really reach out more to provide
support to people who are having some worse moments, or upset moments, or
weak moments, or whatever, and you've been there for them. And you have
being doing your Elvis - going out and having fun and sharing your talent
and fun with people around you, and then you posted it to share with us. I
think you also posted something about how you didn't expect someone to help
you, and that person came through, and that gave you a better feeling about
humanity, or at least about this person.
All this is to say that even when anger and grief has been eating your heart
, somehow you have managed to keep a little spot in your heart safe from the
anger, and you have opened that heart and reached out to so many others, I
don't even think you have any idea how amazing that is. And you've kept
quit, which is also amazing. So when you're feeling so dark, you can not
only look to us, and/or to God, you can look inside yourself because you
have this spot in your heart that is a remarkable reserve of strength. All
the bad shit out there can't get to it because you are stronger than it.
I don't know if I'm making any sense but this is what I think of you when I
read your posts.
Another thing to understand is that ultimately things will work out for you.
You're in a bad stretch, that's all. I don't want to turn this to being
about me, 'cause it's not -- but I've had a bad stretch this year too, and I
just want you to know that these bad stretches DO come to an end, though God
knows it doesn't feel like it ever will when you're in the middle of one.
So here's the story: I'm normally a pretty happy-go-lucky person. In
the short time since I quit smoking, I had a death very close in my family,
I lost my job, I was hospitalized for emergency surgery, I had to put the
cat to sleep, my dog was diagnosed with cancer, my car died in a mall
parking lot in a 100+ degree day... the list goes on. By the middle of
August, I was having anxiety attacks -- I've NEVER had them before. It has
been very frightening and all my friends have been really worried. And now,
it's starting to come to an end -- I can just feel it. I feel physically
like there has been a lightening of my load -- it's hard to explain. But I
think this is happening for a whole lot of reasons. I'm just sort of
"thinking out loud" now, but part of it is just trying not to look at the
world like there is the grand conspiracy to attack or inconvenience me and
to realize that sometimes things just happen. Part of it is taking better
care of myself - still not smoking, trying to eat better - -I'm making sure
I eat protien and I try to keep my blood sugar in order; and I started
taking yoga to learn to clear my head. Part of it is taking back control of
my life -- for example, a job is not going to find ME, so I had to get off
my self-pitying ass and look for one, "network" with people, and pretend
hard enough that I feel like I'm "good enough" so I could convince other
people, until I actually started to believe it again! Part of it is trying
NOT to stifle my feelings but to tell people what I need from them, or that
they're hurting me, so that I don't get silently angry at them for doing
something that they do not even know they are doing to me. Part of it is
Xanax - which I haven't had to take in almost a week now. And part of it is
time. Time heals. It really does.
I hope, Steve, that you will find your peace sooner rather than later. You
deserve it. You are such a good person with a big heart and a lot to offer.
And, of course, you don't smoke! Yay! How fucking cool is that!
With love and respect,
Jaime
I have achieved eight months, two weeks, 22 hours, 58 minutes and 9 seconds,
of smoke-free living (and, with it, rather aggressive driving). This amounts
to 7738 cigarettes not smoked, saving $1,837.65, and adding 3 weeks, 5 days,
20 hours, 50 minutes to my fabulous life.
"SilentNight" <M.Bet...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191198913.4...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Yes, it will get better, if you do the work of convincing yourself that
smoking will never do one good thing for you (and never did). When it gets
better is personal, and when the anger goes away and the feeling like the
quit fits starts is also personal, but all I can say is that I am really
glad I made it through all that anger and rage and feeling like someone else
was living in my head. I can look back now, almost eight years later, and
be really happy that I went through all of it. Just trust that it is all
worth it. It is. No matter how dicey and difficult it seems to get, it's
worth it.
hugs,
elle
"SilentNight" <M.Bet...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191198913.4...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Jaime.......
Thank you for such a wonderful, THOUGHTFUL heartfelt post. You have
given me some things to think about.
my crave has left...my anger subsided.
thank you my friend..
im still Quit.
steve
thanks elle - so glad you're here!
love to you.
Steve
And you are soooooo not getting any more nookie from me, you kiss-and-tell,
blab-it-all-over sonofabitch!
You swore it'd be our little secret, and here you are blurting it out to
every Bozo on the goddam newsgroup!
Well, no more, Buster! You are soooooo cut off...! Harrumph!
There ain't gonna be no magic moment. *POOF* You're healthy! And at
least you do *smell* better!
> (now, this may have something to do with my PTSD.....and if I DO have
> PTSD...well, them, Im REALLY FUCKING MAD!!)
> now...back to my feelings
I can tell you, smoking ain't gonna help your PTSD either, it gonna
make it worse.. 10 times worse, at least! I been diagnosed with
chronic PTSD (meaning it wont ever go away no more) 10 years ago. I
know you rather not pull it into the conversations here but it is part
of you, and it does affect your quit, and your mental *and* physical
state. People do recover from PTSD, other's learn to live with it. It
is hard to accept that it is cause by what other people have done to
you but you should not dwell on anger. I'm not saying to forgive them.
Some programs do encourage forgiveness but thats a whole lot of
bullocks to me! Some things are unforgivable. But it's about
acceptance. Acceptance that you cannot change the past but you can
choose your future. Same goes for quitting. Accept yourself as a non
smoker, accept your new life.
Life goes on, things will happen. Tragic things, happy things,
ordinary things. In other words, life. Life will happen and go on,
whether you smoke or not.
> I feel like (RIGHT NOW) like I just fucking quit this past week !!!
> Ive noticed...that I have encountered what is known as TRIGGERS...well
> fucking flow farts !!!
> A Trigger is on a gun Right??
> Why do they call it a trigger ???
The trigger sets the bullet in motion. The bullet are your craves.
> Who's finger is ON THAT FUCKIN TRIGGER ???
Your's is.. Or rather, your "perfectly conditioned as a smoker"
subconcious.
> and where is the Consequence pointed at...my fuckin head I bet.
You don't know.. It can be pointed at your heart, your head, your
arteries, or your lungs. And you really don't wanna find out, do you?
Because, once you do find out, it's gonne be too late, right?
> Trigger No (who the fuck knows,,,i lost count) lets say...
It's good to keep track of the triggers. And recognize them for what
they really are. Your subconcious reacting to a particular situation.
A situation where you normally would smoke. Why so many then? Because
a situation is really never identical to another and your subconsious
can not reason, just react.
> When does it get better???? A Fucking YEAR ????
> Im 3 months...and today...a crave to smoke came on me like a GOOD OL
> FUCKING FRIEND !!! and ya know what? I miss having a good ol friend
> to be with..
But does a good friend try to kill you? Does a good friend make you
stink, burn your clothes, steal your money, make you hurt? No.. So
that leaves a cigarette out of the picture.
> Im not done yet..I still have this Fucking crave...and Ive had it
> since 6 oclock...I even thought about getting a pack while I was
> getting gas....but I didnt...but I dont know WHY I didnt.........guess
> cause I didnt want to have to get on here (this board) and have to
> tell you guys that I Blew it.
No matter the reasons, you didn't, and that's all that matters now.
But you are quitting for you, not for us. You are going through so
much now, what are you really craving for? Relief, relaxation? Feeling
good? You won't get that from a cigarette. But there have been some
that, you think, made you feel good. Especially those you smoked after
not being able to smoke for a longer period, the ones in the morning,
after diner, after being somewhere you weren't allowed to smoke for a
longer period. Now why did they make you feel so good? Because you had
an addiction to feed. You actually relieved withdrawal symptoms and
that made you *think* that cigarette was good. Well sweety, that
addiction does not need any feeding no more so it won't give you the
relief you are looking for. Believe it or not, you would feel a LOT
worse right now, if you were still a smoker.
> ok..ive got the psychopath now calling my cell phone as i type -
> anyway...where the fuck was i?
> im not drunk...im not on drugs ..im just fucking P I S S E D O F
> F W I T H T H E F U C K I N G
> W O R L D !!!
Good, after anger comes acceptance, the last stage of grief. You are
so close Steve, and doing so well. Many things in life are out of our
control but the choice to smoke or not is yours.
> and no...i dont feel better.
> my fucking life sucks - im too fucking nice...then, i get fucked over.
> ya know...i could be a fucking asshole...i cam be a prick...and not
> give a fucking shit about nobody but myself...i just aint fucking cut
> out that fucking way....
> ive got LOTSA fucking issues...like my almost constant need to fucking
> curse..
Nice people don't curse! :P But seriously, I would be amazed if you
did not feel any anger at this stage. God knows I've had my share of
anger. You need to get it out so curse, yell scream. buy cheap plates
and throw them on the floor. But realise, you would have this anger
too if you were still smoking. And, on top of that, you'd be almost in
a constant state of withdrawal due to stress.
Accept your craves. Yes, you do wan't one cigarette. You cannot deny
that. But the effect you want from that cigarette is not gonna happen.
And with that one cigarette come tens of thousands more you will smoke
after. Be honest with your craves, do not try to argue with them. You
cannot argue with yourself without driving yourself crazy. I want one,
no I don't.. Yes I want one. No I dont, shut up! Yes.. I want one!
NO!.. See where it is going?
Yes, you want that one magic cigarette that, once, long ago, was a
really good one. But the magic is long gone. The hard reality is
addiction to a drug that is slowly, and painfully killing you. With
that reality you make a concious choice whether you smoke or not. Make
your choice with all your heart and hang on to it, for the love of
life.
((((Steve)))))
Inky,
Free since 22/06/07. Three months, one week, two days, 3 hours, 13
minutes and 47 seconds. 3034 stinkers not smoked, saving € 321,61.
Life saved: 1 week, 3 days, 12 hours, 50 minutes.
>I am sooooooooooooooooooooooo fucking angry right now - just irritable
>fucking angry.
Lethargy works much better than anger. Just my 2c.
You get tired and bored of lethargy, eventually.
From anger, you eventually get mad.
(((((((((((((((((((((((( Steve )))))))))))))))))))))))))
--
Tihomir 4M *I don't smoke anymore*
IRC chat: #nosmokers at irc.starlink.org
irc://irc.starlink.org/nosmokers
"Duct tape is like the Force. It has a dark side, it has a light side,
and it holds the Universe together." -Carl Zwanig
>I hope, Steve, that you will find your peace sooner rather than later. You
>deserve it. You are such a good person with a big heart and a lot to offer.
>And, of course, you don't smoke! Yay! How fucking cool is that!
What a great post Jaime.
--
Tihomir 4M *I don't smoke anymore*
IRC chat: #nosmokers at irc.starlink.org
irc://irc.starlink.org/nosmokers
"A bird in the hand is the best way to eat chicken."
>Yes, you want that one magic cigarette that, once, long ago, was a
>really good one. But the magic is long gone. The hard reality is
>addiction to a drug that is slowly, and painfully killing you. With
>that reality you make a concious choice whether you smoke or not. Make
>your choice with all your heart and hang on to it, for the love of
>life.
Fabulous post Inky!
--
Tihomir 4M *I don't smoke anymore*
IRC chat: #nosmokers at irc.starlink.org
irc://irc.starlink.org/nosmokers
"#3532. The law neither does nor requires idle acts."
-- California Civil Code, "Maxims of Jurisprudence"
Guess what? I don't know what the hell is going on in your
life, but from what I read you *should* be angry. Only normal
to feel fucked up at times like this and I have no doubt you'll
find a way to deal with anything on your path. Not saying that
coz I'm Pollyanna or coz I'm downplaying what's going on in
your life, but if you look back on life, don't we find ways to
deal with pretty much everything?
Smoking? The first four months for me were hard. I'd call them
hell, but I've never been there, so I'll call them hard and you do
the math. I just refused to break my quit. Read that? Refused!
If you can quit for three days, there is no reason to ever smoke
again. Guess what? After four months I was done. The extra
depression I had since my quit started lifting and my craves
were nearly gone. A lot of the anger I was dealing with when I
quit mellowed down again, even though I think I'll ever be as
relaxed as when I was still smoking. I'll save ya the thoughts I
have about that.
Again, there both is no telling when your craves will go or when
you'll start to feel better. So what? You have been quit too long
to ever go back to being a happy smoker, so breaking your quit
is senseless. So life is hard. Again, no offense mate, but life is hard
for all of us. We pick the things we can change and swallow the rest
right? A good place to learn how to deal with craves is DDSteve's
place. It teaches you ways to deal with craves and take control.
Read it over, makes more sense than trying to accept your craves.
http://www.cognitivequitting.com/
One more thing. I can pretty much *promise* you that you'll
feel and look better. Just take it one day at a time till the craves
go. Don't look back at how hard you worked and don't look
ahead and wonder why you're not yet reaping the rewards you
earned. Just one crave at a time grasshopper. <grin> You *will*
reach your goal. Might take you longer than you feel comfortable
with, but it might be just around the next corner. You'll find out
when time is due. Stay strong,
Robin. (sorry for writing you a book, I'm long winded)
--
Steven Wright.: "Is it weird in here, or is it just me?"
-
"SilentNight" <> schreef in bericht ...
I am feeling much better than last night - Last night, I couldve eaten
nails.
Got some sleep.
Trying to get off my ass this morning and Get Into Action - cuz, I
aint about to give up. (fat lady hasnt sung)
I got stuff to friggin do...I gotta get crackin'
I am NOT...... N O T going down with this boat.
Im just not!!!
sumpin's gotta give.
Steve
Three months, two weeks, 19 hours, 55 minutes and 16 seconds.
2670 cigarettes not smoked, saving $427.32. Life saved: 1 week, 2
days, 6 hours, 30 minutes.
Robin - Thanks Buddy. I dont mind the length of your reply - its all
good. Your Experience is good to know.
I'm new at this.
I dont handle change well...in fact, Im the type that goes kicking and
screaming...and you have to pry my hands off of the very thing(s) I'm
trying to keep from changing.
Thanks Robin - I appreciate your help, and every one elses.
AS3 is all the support I got, and that aint just for smoking neither.
Steve
Three months, two weeks, 20 hours, 29 minutes and 21 seconds. 2671
cigarettes not smoked, saving $427.41. Life saved: 1 week, 2 days, 6
hours, 35 minutes.
"SilentNight" <M.Bet...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191249987....@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
When I first read this post I felt totally unable to give any sort of
response so I just sent out healing vibes [prayers?] your way as being
in such mental pain ruminating on how hard life is takes so much
energy away from solving the problem. Still, from what I saw in your
posts shortly afterwards you did already do some letting go of the
anger. The problems will resolve themselves even if it is hard doing
this. Having to look for work and a place to live at the same time is
really a hard place to be in. You do have to be glad though that you
are in Florida where housing is not as hard to find as here in NYC.
As to the question on the application for the new apartment, be honest
and do explain to them what you wrote here. If they are reputable,
they are likely to give you a break on that point if the rest of the
requirements are met. Hang in there, I'm [and I'll wager the rest of
us here are] in your corner pulling for ya!
FlatironMike
Seven months, two weeks, six days, 14 hours, 40 minutes and 44
seconds. 4652 cigarettes not smoked, saving $1,395.42. Life saved: 2
weeks, 2 days, 3 hours, 40 minutes.
--
:) Lynn VOF Leaper
"Everyone seems normal until you get to know them."
"DutchVanAfoort" <zni...@fakeAddy.con> wrote in message
news:4700e697$0$25492$ba62...@text.nova.planet.nl...
Put together you say? I'm put together alright, I'm just put together
rather dark and brooding. When I'm bad I can still think. It just
takes a lot of energy and I'm slow, but you don't see that when I type.
Right? Thanks for the compliment sweetie, some people here know
better though. <grin>
--
Steven Wright.: "Is it weird in here, or is it just me?"
-
"Lynn" <> schreef in bericht ...
This was not directed at you! I believe it was a response to the dutch
man or he responded back. And also ignore the troll who is going by the
name of WEE tonight.
Cheerios,
Hope better days come your way soon :)
robbster
SilentNight wrote:
> On Oct 1, 5:10 pm, "Lynn" <lynn.sc...@ns.spammenot.sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>> you know it is funny ,when I came here you seemed so put together.
>>
>> --
>> :) Lynn VOF Leaper
>> "Everyone seems normal until you get to know them."
>>
>> "DutchVanAfoort" <znib...@fakeAddy.con> wrote in message
>>
>> news:4700e697$0$25492$ba62...@text.nova.planet.nl...
>>
>>
>>
>>> No saying when it will be better. I quit in one of my worst
>>> depressions imaginable and felt like got a new and improved
>>> extra quit depression on top of that. Got dropped like a turd
>>> and fucked over a few times. People that shared my quit might
>>> remember me being so broke for months I didn't even have
>>> money for food, coz someone else fucked up and I was paying
>>> for it, literally. Was just saying the same to someone behind
>>> the scenes, coz when I read here I saw people that made my
>>> life look like a breeze.- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
> Lynn wrote : " you know it is funny ,when I came here you seemed so
> put together. "
>
> Can you please explain this comment to me ?
> If I'm reading this right, and I think I am, I would say I'm being
> insulted in an offhanded sort of way. As if currently, I am NOT PUT
> TOGETHER...that I'm coming Undone, unglued..out of my mind, beside
> myself.
> hmm...that stung a bit.
> not cool.
>
>
--
yeah thanks Robb, I realized that AFTER i hit the send button - i
deleted it anyway
I can't say it better than any of the other posters (including yourself)
so I'll just add the 1 1/2 cents I have (namely, my own experience).
About seven years ago, I found myself out of work with zero prospects. I
had been doing consulting work and had pretty good money coming in.
After Y2K, the work pretty much dried up and after 9/11 there was less
than zero work. I was out of work a long time and went into a major
depression. I was a single dad with an eleven year old son and his Mom
wasn't sending any child support so we had no money. At one point, I was
ready to take a left-hand turn into a bridge abutment at 75 mph. Seriously.
Eventually I found work as a part-time warehouse-man and slowly came out
of it. *Only now* can I see that it was a process for me. If I had taken
that left-hand turn, I would never have given the thing a chance to work
out.
I don't know how much of a spiritual man you are but, for me, I like to
think that there is some kind of Higher Power out there. It just seems
to feel right (not necessarily better, but right) when I turn my
problems over to HP and do whatever is in front of me. Sometimes what's
in front of me are baby steps. Sometimes it's one step forward and two
back. Sometimes it's just two back. The important thing is to just keep
doing something constructive.
I don't know what is going to work for you but I can tell you this: The
first thing that I felt when I read your post was empathy. My heart went
out to you. The second thing I felt (I know this is going to sound
weird) was admiration... for your ability to express your feelings and
to reach out. Believe it or not, not everyone can do that.
Anyway, I wish you the best my friend and will put in a good word to HP
for ya.
ConcordPhil
--
Steven Wright.: "Is it weird in here, or is it just me?"
-
"SilentNight" <> schreef in bericht ...
>
> OK..I just played the part of ASSHOLE..and jumped the gun. THought
> Lynn's comment was directed toward me...
> My apologies....excuse me while I wash the egg off my face.
> Signed - a QuickToFlyOff Butthead
> Sorry Lynn.
> Steve
>
Phil,
Thank you for sharing that story of yours with me.
Thank you for the rest of it as well. Thank you for your prayers.
Thanks Buddy.
Steve
Three months, two weeks, one day, 7 hours, 50 minutes and 35 seconds.
2683 cigarettes not smoked, saving $429.31. Life saved: 1 week, 2
days, 7 hours, 35 minutes.
"SilentNight" <M.Bet...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> Lynn wrote : " you know it is funny ,when I came here you seemed so
> put together. "
>
--
:) Lynn VOF Leaper
"Everyone seems normal until you get to know them."
"SilentNight" <M.Bet...@gmail.com> wrote in message ce.
I completely agree. Please stop referring to chickens in your rants.
It's really uncalled for :-)
Cheers,
Rob
<cluck, cluck>
Sorry Sweety - my ignorance (i got lotsa dat)
Yeah we cool ! :-)
Steve
< Smile >........ Steve
I'm glad everyone here stepped up with some support and you are
feeling better. I'm glad to hear you say you aren't going down with
the ship. Don't! Keep fighting. You know what you need to do. Fight
off the blanket of depression and DO it. You will be even more proud
of yourself.
And don't smoke. You know that ain't gonna lead anywhere. Don't you?
(((((((((((((((((STEVE)))))))))))))))))))))
Hugs
Ashley
(belated quitbuddy 2 cents)
Now you've gone and offended the whole plucking flock.