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Before you buy.
No & no.
>The father said this whole incedent
>was my fault for not standing over ss and watching him look through his bag.
>As usual he is enabling ss lack of responcibility and showing him that
>everyone around him has to do for him. This kid is 9 not 2.
At 9, your SS should start taking responsibility for his behavior. When things
are calmer, you might talk with DH about responsibility concerning his son.
Find out what he feels his son should be responsible for now. Ask him what he
thinks would happen to his son when he's an adult if the boy doesn't learn
responsibility now. Most of us have worked with someone who doesn't take
responsibility for their work/actions. They don't last in the job long
usually.
Does SS have chores around the house? Does he get an allowance based on his
performance of the chores? (My SD only has to keep her room & bathroom clean
and do her own laundry. If her room goes more than one day without being
straightened up, she loses $5 from her allowance.) To me, an allowance is like
a job trial run. If you don't do the work, you don't get paid.
I have found that when I talk with someone about a "volatile" subject, it is
best to get their opinions on the subject and then to ask questions to get them
thinking about the ramifications of the actions being taken. For example, if
we allow SS to not be responsible for his actions now, how could that affect
him as an adult when we aren't there to go to bat for him?
It's not easy to do that. I sometimes have to pull myself short when talking
with DH or anyone about things because I do tend to be somewhat opinionated and
like to express those opinions. *bg* But it is also easier to get someone to
"agree" with you if they think of it with the help of questions to guide them.
:-)
Am I manipulative? Yeap, without a doubt. But I do not manipulate in a way
where it only benefits myself. I told SD one day that I do sometimes
manipulate her but to benefit her - to help her grow into the type of woman
that she has expressed on numerous occasions that she wants to be.
Sometimes we have to engineer the situation so that it's best for everyone
concerned by giving the other person a "way out" where they don't feel like
they are caving in to us or feel rebellious. I did that with SD & therapy.
She needed it & refused to go. She admitted to my best friend that she needed
it, but, God forbid, she would say that to us!!!! LOL. One day, after a
run-away incident, she said that she had told her then latest & greatest that
she did want to change. I told her that maybe he might believe that if she got
therapy. She agreed & I immediately set up the appointment. There's nothing
like a graceful way out. :-)
Best of luck to you, Jennifer, and I hope you will have a wonderful holiday
season.
Anne H.
"To the world you might be one person, but to one person you might
be the world."
Deciding to get Spec Ed services is one of the hardest decisions to make.
On one hand he may finally get the help he needs to be successful but having
to deal with the stigma of a label is also difficult. I would talk to his
teacher and a teacher of learning disabilities about your ss's difficulties.
Together you may be able to come up with some strategies to try with out him
having to be labled.
Hope this helps somewhat. Good Luck
I know what its like and I agree with you he should be more responsible
Crazy (bio mom of 3 and step mom of 2)
Dana
"Jennifer G." <reg...@pioneeris.net> wrote in message
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> different pocket then they usually are. The father said this whole
incedent
> was my fault for not standing over ss and watching him look through his
bag.
> As usual he is enabling ss lack of responcibility and showing him that
> everyone around him has to do for him. This kid is 9 not 2. I think by
now
> he should be able to look for something on his own. He can find his toys
> and that special comic book or pokeman card in his mess of a room but I
have
> to stand over him to find something in his bookbag. Am I being
irrational?
> Is this really my fault and I should do for him like I do for my 3 year
old
Most kids around here have contacts. They don't get lost or
scratched. They change them once a week, I think, so parental
supervision is pretty minimal. Is that an option?
jane
Dana
"jane lawrence" <jan...@excite.com> wrote in message
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Does your SS
> take well to rewards. Maybe you could give him a sticker everytime he
> brings them home in one piece and reward him at the end of the week with
> something.....just a suggestion.
>
> Dana
No, he is horrible with rewards. If you give him any reward his behavior
goes from bad to worse, almost like he is thinking that he can now get away
with more. Something else I don't understand nor how to deal with.
Jennifer
Contacts is not an option. Doctor said to only wear them when reading the
school board or going to the movies or any other activity where you have to
see distance. He is not to wear them when reading books etc..
Basically the chance of loss is doubled because he has to keep taking them
off then putting them back on, but his eyes are not that bad we just don't
want them to get any worse.
Jennifer
:Contacts is not an option. Doctor said to only wear them when reading the
:school board or going to the movies or any other activity where you have to
:see distance. He is not to wear them when reading books etc..
:Basically the chance of loss is doubled because he has to keep taking them
:off then putting them back on, but his eyes are not that bad we just don't
:want them to get any worse.
Ah ha. Bifocals. I'm not kidding. I had them when I was 12, and my
daughter had them at 10. You don't need to get the kind with
noticeable lines, and they can have plain glass in the uppers (for
distance) and his prescription in the lower lens, for reading.
My daughter's bifocals had the visible lines and no one gave her any
grief about it, but it's not necessary to risk it. And it does get
rid of the need to take them off and put them on 50 times a day.
They'll stay cleaner and collect far fewer scratches.
Vicki
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Or, if she is like my SD, her own grubby little fingers. Yikes! :-)
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I would think he's too young for contacts anyway.
My daughter will be getting glasses shortly but won't need them for
close-up work either and she's told me that what her friends do when
they take their glasses off is to tuck one earpiece in the top of
their shirts and hang the glasses there so they don't get lost.
Would this work for you? Or how about one of those cords that
he could wear around his neck so the glasses just dangle there when they're
not on his face?
-- GW
Dana
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Jennifer G. wrote in message ...
Make sure his teacher knows and that he sits at the front of the class.
At the time I bought older SS glasses, I purchased the kid insurance, which
guaranteed to replace them regardless. (I still can't figure out how they
can offer this.)
Contacts require a bit of maturity - I still don't know if SS (17) is
there yet. He had disposable, and was handling them too roughly and
breaking them. He told me one broke in his eye and we told him he needs to
go back to the eye doctor and have a conversation about this. We're still
waiting.
Merrie
Vicki Robinson wrote in message <8499va$u9g$1...@allhats.xcski.com>...
>In a previous article, "Jennifer G." <reg...@pioneeris.net> said:
>
>:Contacts is not an option. Doctor said to only wear them when reading the
>:school board or going to the movies or any other activity where you have
to
>:see distance. He is not to wear them when reading books etc..
>:Basically the chance of loss is doubled because he has to keep taking them
>:off then putting them back on, but his eyes are not that bad we just don't
>:want them to get any worse.
>
Thank you, I never thought of that. The next time we go to the doctors I
will bring that idea up to them.
Jennifer
The teacher will not let him sit at the front. His permenant desk is
located right next to hers. He has this problem called 'ss cannot listen to
anyone what-so-ever.' Besides the class is arranged in groups not rows.
The room is actually not that big.
Jennifer
I probably shouldn't say this. My mother never got the hang of
it. She wore glasses for over 50 years. Even with bifocals,
she took them off and misplaced them all the time. She sat on
them and broke them. She scratched them. She scarred me deeply
by appearing with them held together with a bandaid when I
brought friends from school home.
jane
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I hate icq. All I ever get are porn ads. I have IM - janela66,
- which I'll try to turn on more often if you like. I have a
bunch of others, too.
jane
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Heather M.
jane lawrence wrote in message <3869718E...@excite.com>...
>Jennifer G. wrote:
>>
>> Neither of these ideas would work for him. If he hangs them in his shirt
he
>> would definately lose them, constantly flaring his body and arms. He
won't
>> wear them on a cord around his neck he would thing it was funny, due to
the
>> fact that I wear both pairs of my glasses that way (one for distance and
one
>> for reading -- bifocals give me massive headaches) and both his
grandparents
>> have theirs on cords.
>> Jennifer
>
>I probably shouldn't say this. My mother never got the hang of
>it. She wore glasses for over 50 years. Even with bifocals,
>she took them off and misplaced them all the time. She sat on
>them and broke them. She scratched them. She scarred me deeply
>by appearing with them held together with a bandaid when I
>brought friends from school home.
>
>jane
And jane, if you'd ever been on icq in the last few months, I would have
sent you very calm and soothing messages : )
kevin
<who is at this very moment having a discussion on icq with cindy about
the advantages of owning a tennis raquet>
Oh shut up, kitley. I have the other pagers, like yahoo and
excite. I think I still have powwow and birch, was it birch?
jane
turn on your im sometimes. or send whatever you usually have on. i don't
know anything about excite, powwow, yahoo or birch.
kitley
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Beats me. It drove me nuts. I let it seek the internet
connection on its own. I kept getting beeps from XXX sites and
idiots in Brazil.
jane
Gina
>kevin <see...@cwcom.net> wrote in message news:MPG.12d40b652...@news.cwcom.net...
> In article <38697B31...@excite.com>, jane lawrence says...
> > Newsgroups wrote:
> > >
> > > >She scarred me deeply
> > > > by appearing with them held together with a bandaid when I
> > > > brought friends from school home.
> > > oh, jane!!! as sad as that is, it gave me a chuckle. do you icq or im?
> >
> > I hate icq. All I ever get are porn ads. I have IM - janela66,
> > - which I'll try to turn on more often if you like. I have a
> > bunch of others, too.
> >
> > jane
> >
> What is it with ICQ? . . I get a porn ad about once every three weeks,
> and I'm on ICQ a lot. How come others seem to be deluged with them? Is it
> because I don't make my details generally available? Is it because I
> always sit in invisible mode? And the other thing - I don't get bothered
> by unwanted "what's your ASL?" messages. (Age, Sex, Location). Is it
> because I have a male nickname? Does anyone know?
>
> And jane, if you'd ever been on icq in the last few months, I would have
> sent you very calm and soothing messages : )
>
Don't know.
<snip>
>How come others seem to be deluged with them? Is it
>because I don't make my details generally available? Is it because I
>always sit in invisible mode? And the other thing - I don't get bothered
>by unwanted "what's your ASL?" >messages. (Age, Sex, Location).
Is it
>because I have a male nickname? Does anyone know?
Don't know. I do. Doubt it. Never got one
on ICQ. Maybe, but I've heard of reverse "harassment."
I don't. I think in the 3 or so years I've had ICQ, even when I used it daily,
I've gotten a total of about 5-6 porn/unwanted messages. I have a rather
provocative nickname on ICQ. (Long joke from long ago and I'm not going into
it. *g*)
Maybe it's the luck of the draw?
Anne H.
"To the world you might be one person, but to one person you might
be the world."
Kevin
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Although there is definitely something weird there, because I know
that sometimes I'm online and Kevin will ICQ me saying, "I took a
chance you were online" when everybody else on my ICQ can see that I
am.
Anne
Anne
> I have a rather
>provocative nickname on ICQ. (Long joke from long ago and I'm not going into
>it. *g*)
Aw, c'mon... not fair to bring it up and then keep us all in suspense
;)
Nicole
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It is a talent of mine.
jane
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