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Jennifer Usher

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Sep 10, 2007, 10:14:43 PM9/10/07
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Okay, first off, where I live, or don't live is not really anyone here's
business. Mable, if Mable had a shred of decency left, would realize that,
and drop this rather nasty bit of crap. Mable has run off two more
post-ops, and has shown that nothing matters to Mable, other than forcing
Mable's will on others.

Second off, for the record, I don't receive any housing subsidies. I pay
ALL of my rent. Any suggestion otherwise is a lie. Period.

I am certainly not homeless. And I have not been homeless for over four
years.

Now, as the final word on this matter....I could spend more on my housing,
but I don't really care to. As it is, I have quite a bit of free money to
spend on things like travel, entertainment, and such. I don't have an ego
that requires a nicer "pad." I have a place that is safe, comfortable, and
is quite different than anyone here seems to imagine. Let's just say,
again, Arune and Mable are both clueless. For example, to address one of
Mable's sillier claims, my bathroom is mine alone. I don't have to go down
any hall, or wait in any lines. That one was quite humorous.

Now, I think what Mable did is highly offensive. IF there were some nutcase
lurking here, Mable might well have put me in danger. Of course, that is
relatively unlikely, but not impossible. It is quite unforgivable in a
group like this however, and Mable might want to realize that only Arune has
praised it. Two people have left because of it. Simply put, Mable is not a
nice person at all. A few choice words come to mind, but why bother?

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Jennifer Usher


Willow Arune

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Sep 11, 2007, 12:16:53 AM9/11/07
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Given a choice between believing Usher or believing Mable, I take Mable
hands down...

The nature of the Mission Hotel is clearly stated on the web page of the
Tenderloin Housing Clinic.

W.


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Jennifer Usher

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Sep 11, 2007, 12:34:24 AM9/11/07
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"Willow Arune" <pang...@telus.net> wrote in message
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> Given a choice between believing Usher or believing Mable, I take Mable
> hands down...

Of course, both are proven liars.

> The nature of the Mission Hotel is clearly stated on the web page of the
> Tenderloin Housing Clinic.

Actually, what they say is true. But what they say is not the entire story.
Arune is proof that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Now, let's
consider a few facts. Before I became employed, my rent was subsidized.
When I became employed, that ceased. I now pay my own rent, regardless of
where I live. Now, I could pay two, maybe three times as much rent, but why
would I want to? To impress Arune and Mable? I don't think so. I have
plenty of money for things I enjoy, and I live comfortably. End of story.
Mable looks like a vindictive ass....Arune looks silly, as usual. And I am
having a good laugh at this whole thing.

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Jennifer Usher


Sue

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Sep 11, 2007, 1:36:25 AM9/11/07
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"Jennifer Usher" <jenni...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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we all know Will0 and M8ble will put their spin on anything that
suites them.
Just like their idol George Bush.
I heard it in the Enquirer therefore it must be true.
or
did it read it in TransVestia.


Take care
Hugs
Sue


Jennifer Usher

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Sep 11, 2007, 2:19:58 AM9/11/07
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"Sue" <Mabl...@everywhere.org> wrote in message
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> we all know Will0 and M8ble will put their spin on anything that suites
> them.
> Just like their idol George Bush.
> I heard it in the Enquirer therefore it must be true.
> or
> did it read it in TransVestia.

It is kind of funny. They think everyone has the same sort of ego that they
do. They know bits and pieces, and they try to fill in the rest with their
own feelings. I have no doubt tht Mable thought I would be devastated by
that silly revelation. Arune was counting on it. But, they don't know the
whole story. It is a matter of choices and priorities. Arune simply tries
to imagine the worse, and then goes from there. I mean, really, stuff like
"lock down?" What kind of idiot dreams up something like that? That is
just dumb. As to the stuff about Carlos Hernandez, all I can say is it is
news to me.

I do know there are some things that don't quite add up. Just out of
curiosity, I did a Google on "Mission Hotel," and none of that stuff turned
up. Now, I have to wonder....how did Arune find it out? I mean, let's be
real, Arune is not THAT clever. I doubt Arune found it without help. Now,
if Arune had help, then it had to be someone with inside information about
the situation. Say, someone who worked for THC Now, suppose someone were
employed by THC accessed their records, and gave out private information.
Now, things could get real interesting. You see, because of certain issues,
that would be illegal. At the very least, the person would lose their job.
Yes, things could prove interesting. Or not. Who knows.

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Jennifer Usher


mable the storm goat

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Sep 11, 2007, 2:29:50 AM9/11/07
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:14:43 -0700
"Jennifer Usher" <jenni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A few choice
> words come to mind, but why bother?
>

Indeed, why bother?
Yet here you are yet AGAIN explaining to your imaginary audience...

Same as it ever was.

mtsg

mable the storm goat

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Sep 11, 2007, 2:31:47 AM9/11/07
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 04:16:53 GMT
"Willow Arune" <pang...@telus.net> wrote:

> Given a choice between believing Usher or believing Mable, I take
> Mable hands down...
>
> The nature of the Mission Hotel is clearly stated on the web page of
> the Tenderloin Housing Clinic.
>
> W.

That is true.
Why not call the Mission Hotel and ask about a room, they will confirm
they do not *rent* rooms. They operate a program.

mtsg

mable the storm goat

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Sep 11, 2007, 2:32:54 AM9/11/07
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:34:24 -0700
"Jennifer Usher" <jenni...@gmail.com> wrote:

> And I am having a
> good laugh at this whole thing.
>
> --
> Jennifer Usher
>
>

Yes, your hypocrisy is a riot.

mtsg

mable the storm goat

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Sep 11, 2007, 2:33:37 AM9/11/07
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:36:25 -0700
"Sue" <Mabl...@everywhere.org> wrote:

> Just like their idol George Bush.

You are such a complete moron.

mtsg

Sue

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Sep 11, 2007, 10:41:33 AM9/11/07
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"Jennifer Usher" <jenni...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Sue" <Mabl...@everywhere.org> wrote in message
> news:yPpFi.115252$dI1....@newsfe08.phx...
>
>> we all know Will0 and M8ble will put their spin on anything
>> that suites them.
>> Just like their idol George Bush.
>> I heard it in the Enquirer therefore it must be true.
>> or
>> did it read it in TransVestia.
>
> It is kind of funny. They think everyone has the same sort of
> ego that they do. They know bits and pieces, and they try to
> fill in the rest with their own feelings. I have no doubt tht
> Mable thought I would be devastated by that silly revelation.
> Arune was counting on it. But, they don't know the whole
> story. It is a matter of choices and priorities. Arune
> simply tries to imagine the worse, and then goes from there.
> I mean, really, stuff like "lock down?" What kind of idiot
> dreams up something like that? That is just dumb. As to the
> stuff about Carlos Hernandez, all I can say is it is news to
> me.

The kind of idiot that dreams up stuff like that is one who
tried to commit fruad in Thailand and ended up in jail.

> I do know there are some things that don't quite add up. Just
> out of curiosity, I did a Google on "Mission Hotel," and none
> of that stuff turned up. Now, I have to wonder....how did
> Arune find it out? I mean, let's be real, Arune is not THAT
> clever. I doubt Arune found it without help. Now, if Arune
> had help, then it had to be someone with inside information
> about the situation. Say, someone who worked for THC Now,
> suppose someone were employed by THC accessed their records,
> and gave out private information. Now, things could get real
> interesting. You see, because of certain issues, that would
> be illegal. At the very least, the person would lose their
> job. Yes, things could prove interesting. Or not. Who knows.
>

it would be interesting if will0 had to appear in court in the
states.....
The US has an extradition treaty with Thailand where will0 fled
prosecution.
Will0 never appeared in court and was tried and convicted of
fruad and some other stuff.
If Thailand is the US there is no statute of limitations on
fraud.
maybe will0 should be very careful

Oh Well.....

Take care
Hugs
Sue


Sue

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Sep 11, 2007, 10:42:46 AM9/11/07
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coming from you that is complement.

Have a nice life

Sue


Willow Arune

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Sep 11, 2007, 12:25:39 PM9/11/07
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Sorry, Thailand is out of date now.

I know that breaks what passes for your heart, but them's the breaks...

W.


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Pauline

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Sep 11, 2007, 3:39:59 PM9/11/07
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one of my peeves is outing people, discussing their living situations,
Where Jen lives is her business, Where Sue lives is hers, where Willow
is is hers.

Making up facts about Willows Incarceration in Thailand, a place that
penalizes without being found guilty, tortures for the truth ( The
answer they want), is wrong. If anyone has a list of charges found
guilty on anyone they should post it or just give it up.
I just finished the readers Digest story on Lacrosse students and the
claim of rape. I see a lot of us in it.


P

Sue

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Sep 11, 2007, 9:04:39 PM9/11/07
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"Willow Arune" <pang...@telus.net> wrote in message
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> Sorry, Thailand is out of date now.
>
> I know that breaks what passes for your heart, but them's the
> breaks...
>
> W.
>

Perhaps a letter to the Thai Consulate would clear up matter

Sue

Mable Teach your lap dog how to post to a newsgroup PLEASE.


Sue

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Sep 11, 2007, 9:04:43 PM9/11/07
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"Pauline" <pmb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I haven't made anything up it comes from what willow has posted
on the subject herself.
Search this newsgroup and you shall find the source of what i
said.

I cannot our willow because she has outed herself.
i have ketp our privite comversations on the subject privite.
Willow did a great of soul bearing about 5 years ago here and on
the former yahoo discussion group Mulieberty.

I wouldn't stoop to using the doctrine of situational ethics
like mable has.
The End doesn't justify the means.
anybody that believes that is superficial and shallow.

Take care
Hugs
Sue


Pauline

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Sep 12, 2007, 12:05:57 AM9/12/07
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On Sep 11, 8:04 pm, "Sue" <Mable...@everywhere.org> wrote:
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Anything from Thailand is conjecture. I doubt If willow can remember
good things, their prison system is quite different, reality for those
jailed will never be the same.

Anyone want a trip to getmo, what we think of as civilized. You
should hear my brother talk about the ones he worked at here. Military
and federal.

What a prisoner believes and what goes on has no base in fact. I give
Willow a pass on what she says happened, I doubt that she remembers it
the same from year to year, memories return, memories fade. One of the
easiest way to control prisoners is drugs, either given to the inmate
or mixed in their food. They then don't know it.

PTSD, prison, war, accidents all cause it. I woke up Friday, grabbed
some cloths and ran outside screaming about being under attack, Been a
few years since the last nightmare like that. At least this time my
guns were not close or people watching. If you want a horrible
thought, a woman running with out a top and 54DD's a flapping. First
time with out a top since transitioning.


P

Sue

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Sep 12, 2007, 12:56:34 AM9/12/07
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"Pauline" <pmb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Sorry to hear your episode, i had a friend for a number of year
that spent a hitch and a half in the navy. He was out on a
medical discharge. Basically the same thing. his came from being
2 of the three carriers that burned the Hancock and the one that
was used a couple of times to pick up Mercury and Gemini
capsules. He also had some rough times over in Nam.

I have a lot of respect for Y'all who go into the milatery and
get put through the seven pits of hell.
Then you come out and the VA treats you like garbage.

Take care
Hugs
Sue

Pauline

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Sep 12, 2007, 1:25:09 AM9/12/07
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My "coming out" was never a factor with the VA, a few people there but
once your out, you can be a woman or gay and get the same treatment as
anyone else. VA its self is not military.


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Sue

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Sep 12, 2007, 10:06:48 AM9/12/07
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"Pauline" <pmb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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my friend back in the 70's and 80's had trouble with the VA and
he wasn't gay or anything.

Hugs
Sue


Pauline

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Sep 12, 2007, 12:37:55 PM9/12/07
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And I thought it was a requirement.

:)

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Sue

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Sep 13, 2007, 11:07:26 PM9/13/07
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"Pauline" <pmb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Sad commentary on how we treat our vets.
People are not disposable.


Hugs
Sue


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