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Randy Jabsco

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Dec 29, 2003, 3:14:53 AM12/29/03
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I keep reading all the history about how the Europeans spread all over the
earth, exploring all parts and spreading their influences. They taught
other cultures and other people their ways.

Can someone please post something that shows when the Negro boarded ships to
explore the world and taught other cultures with their advanced ways?


Richard Smol

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Dec 29, 2003, 8:39:31 AM12/29/03
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Randy Jabsco wrote:

> I keep reading all the history about how the Europeans spread all over the
> earth, exploring all parts and spreading their influences. They taught
> other cultures and other people their ways.

Rather, they forced their ways on other cultures, usually by
sword or by gun and often with devastating results.

> Can someone please post something that shows when the Negro boarded ships to
> explore the world and taught other cultures with their advanced ways?

The Negro tribes were originally from West and Central Africa and set
out to explore the rest of the continent. There are also accounts of
African ships sailing out to the East to seek out new trade routes.

RS

steve

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Dec 29, 2003, 8:58:07 AM12/29/03
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Weren't there black warriors among the Moors who occupied Spain for 500
years up to the 1600's?

I also think there were blacks among the muslim armies that invaded the
Balkans and nearly took Vienna in the 1600's. The old pictures recording
the event certainly show some very dark guys climbing the assault ladders.

Going back a bit further.....the people who became the Australian
Aborigines walked from Africa to Australia 50,000 years ago - taking a few
thousand years to spread along the beaches of Asia and into Australia.
They have left their genetic markers behind them all along the way....and
on into North and South America where their descendants became native
North Americans 12,000 years ago.

The Polynesians - descended from those same people - and later arrivals -
were sailing (in ocean-going canoes) - between Madagascar, off the east
cost of Africa and the west coast of South America - the LONG way - 3,000
years before a European went *anywhere*.

In fact.......and don't forget.....we all started in Africa about 60,000
years ago. The Europeans are stay-at-homes compared to almost everyone
else.

"The Journey of Man" - Spencer Wells: 2003.

You need to learn home global history really BAD, dude.

If you're in America, you need to get OUT of that place and learn about
the real world.

osc

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Dec 29, 2003, 9:51:51 AM12/29/03
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"Randy Jabsco" <Randy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<bsonmv$n51$0...@pita.alt.net>...

Per your request: http://www.cwo.com/~lucumi/runoko.html. Hope this
is what you are looking for. Peace.

Byker

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Dec 29, 2003, 10:13:26 AM12/29/03
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"Richard Smol" <jazzcat...@dds.nl> wrote in message
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> Randy Jabsco wrote:
>
> > I keep reading all the history about how the Europeans spread all over
> > the earth, exploring all parts and spreading their influences. They
> > taught other cultures and other people their ways.
>
> Rather, they forced their ways on other cultures, usually by
> sword or by gun and often with devastating results.

Without the Euros to "force their ways," these "cultures" would have
remained in the Bronze or Stone Ages.

> > Can someone please post something that shows when the Negro boarded
> > ships to explore the world and taught other cultures with their advanced
> > ways?
>
> The Negro tribes were originally from West and Central Africa and set
> out to explore the rest of the continent.

On foot.

> There are also accounts of African ships sailing out to the East to seek
> out new trade routes.

Crossing the Red Sea is hardly an ocean voyage....


Byker

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Dec 29, 2003, 10:13:27 AM12/29/03
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"steve" <st...@whoknowswut.org> wrote in message
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> In fact.......and don't forget.....we all started in Africa about 60,000
> years ago.

And those who left Africa way back when evolved into something worthwhile.

Those who stayed behind remained stuck in an evolutionary time warp.

http://www.thirdworldplanet.com/pic/kisscow2.jpg
http://www.thirdworldplanet.com/pic/shampooing.jpg
http://dementia.lunaticsworld.com/cultures/images/bullsballs.jpg

Get with it, people...


Steven Litvintchouk

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Dec 29, 2003, 1:02:48 PM12/29/03
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steve wrote:

> In fact.......and don't forget.....we all started in Africa about 60,000
> years ago.

Homo Sapiens first appeared 125,000 - 150,000 years ago, in Africa.

In fact, there is now some DNA evidence that the dog was domesticated by
humans as much as 100,000 years ago.

-- Steven L.


Steven Litvintchouk

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Dec 29, 2003, 1:04:10 PM12/29/03
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Byker wrote:

> "steve" <st...@whoknowswut.org> wrote in message
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>
>
>>In fact.......and don't forget.....we all started in Africa about 60,000
>>years ago.
>
>
> And those who left Africa way back when evolved into something worthwhile.

Genetically we are all the same species as the Homo Sapiens who first
evolved in Africa around 135,000 years ago.

-- Steven L.

Richard Smol

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Dec 29, 2003, 1:06:23 PM12/29/03
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"Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote in message news:<qwXHb.10473$lo3....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...

> "Richard Smol" <jazzcat...@dds.nl> wrote in message
> news:n8WHb.394398$G77.2...@amsnews02.chello.com...
>
> > Randy Jabsco wrote:
> >
> > > I keep reading all the history about how the Europeans spread all over
> > > the earth, exploring all parts and spreading their influences. They
> > > taught other cultures and other people their ways.
> >
> > Rather, they forced their ways on other cultures, usually by
> > sword or by gun and often with devastating results.
>
> Without the Euros to "force their ways," these "cultures" would have
> remained in the Bronze or Stone Ages.

Says you. And there were highly advanced civilizations in
Africa already, although they were of course different from the
European ones.

> > > Can someone please post something that shows when the Negro boarded
> > > ships to explore the world and taught other cultures with their advanced
> > > ways?
> >
> > The Negro tribes were originally from West and Central Africa and set
> > out to explore the rest of the continent.
>
> On foot.

Which is quite a feat, considering that the inlands of Africa
were very much extremely dense rain forests at the time... not
at all like Europe.

> > There are also accounts of African ships sailing out to the East to seek
> > out new trade routes.
>
> Crossing the Red Sea is hardly an ocean voyage....

I am talking India & China here.

RS

Byker

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Dec 29, 2003, 1:53:37 PM12/29/03
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> "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote in message
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> > "Richard Smol" <jazzcat...@dds.nl> wrote in message
> > news:n8WHb.394398$G77.2...@amsnews02.chello.com...
> >
> > > Randy Jabsco wrote:
> > >
> > > > I keep reading all the history about how the Europeans spread all
over
> > > > the earth, exploring all parts and spreading their influences. They
> > > > taught other cultures and other people their ways.
> > >
> > > Rather, they forced their ways on other cultures, usually by
> > > sword or by gun and often with devastating results.
> >
> > Without the Euros to "force their ways," these "cultures" would have
> > remained in the Bronze or Stone Ages.
>
> Says you. And there were highly advanced civilizations in
> Africa already,

Source?

> although they were of course different from the
> European ones.

A mut hut is hardly the Parthenon.

> Which is quite a feat, considering that the inlands of Africa
> were very much extremely dense rain forests at the time... not
> at all like Europe.

Most was open savannah, allowing for easy transit. Besides, America's
Indians had little trouble making it from Alaska to Tierra Del Fuego in a
few thousand years. The jungles of Central and South America were no
barrier.

>
> I am talking India & China here.

The Chinese and Indians opened trade with Africa, not the other way
around....


Byker

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Dec 29, 2003, 1:53:39 PM12/29/03
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"Steven Litvintchouk" <sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
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>
> Genetically we are all the same species as the Homo Sapiens who first
> evolved in Africa around 135,000 years ago.

Behaviorally we're not. Last time I checked Homo Africanus had the monopoly
on TNB....


Rhinehold

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Dec 29, 2003, 2:06:01 PM12/29/03
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Rhinehold

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"Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote in message
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You might want to get with it, you're completely wrong here and no matter
how much you kick up a fuss your racist attitudes don't hold up with
history. I've already provided many links, the reason that the
civilizations in Africa are as they are now are mainly because of external
influences instead of a lack of development. There is proof that Africans
visited Europe when the europeans were nothing but tree-worshiping picts.

Besides the point, you can keep spouting your ill-informed bigotry and die
out, the rest of society is going to come to the realization that we are all
the same race with different environmental alterations to our bodies that
change over time, no more and no less.

Rhinehold


Byker

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Dec 29, 2003, 3:39:59 PM12/29/03
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"Rhinehold" <non...@business.com> wrote in message
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> You might want to get with it, you're completely wrong here and no matter
> how much you kick up a fuss your racist attitudes don't hold up with
> history.

And your revised afrocentric "history" doesn't hold up with academia. For
the time being the White professors are staying silent just to protect their
careers and keep Jesse Jackson off their backs and when the time comes that
they no longer have to fear demonstrations and boycotts, just watch how
savage the backlash will be as they drop-kick the afrocentroids off-campus.

BTW, you're not fooling anyone with that "Rhinehold" bullshit, Dashawn, or
whatever the hell your name is...


Byker

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Dec 29, 2003, 3:40:00 PM12/29/03
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"Rhinehold" <non...@business.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Randy Jabsco" <Randy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:bsonmv$n51$0...@pita.alt.net...
> > I keep reading all the history about how the Europeans spread all over
the
> > earth, exploring all parts and spreading their influences. They taught
> > other cultures and other people their ways.
> >
> > Can someone please post something that shows when the Negro boarded
ships
> to
> > explore the world and taught other cultures with their advanced ways?
>
> Sure:
>
> http://www.cssaame.ilstu.edu/issues/V17-2/CARLTON.pdf
> http://www.raceandhistory.com/historicalviews/2003/race.html
> http://www.homestead.com/wysinger/latestfindings.html
> http://www.raceandhistory.com/historicalviews/ancientamerica.htm
> http://freespace.virgin.net/abe.oppel/body_black_history.html

(YAWN) "McGill" tried foisting that shit on us a couple of years ago.
Sorry, it didn't work. Care to try again?


Intoxxinated

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Dec 29, 2003, 5:24:17 PM12/29/03
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"Rhinehold" <non...@business.com> wrote in message
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: http://www.cssaame.ilstu.edu/issues/V17-2/CARLTON.pdf

Verbose, but doesn't say much at all....

: http://www.raceandhistory.com/historicalviews/2003/race.html

English Surfdom? African revisionist.

: http://www.homestead.com/wysinger/latestfindings.html

A decent article.

: http://www.raceandhistory.com/historicalviews/ancientamerica.htm

Another, obviously confused revisionist. He claims africans were the
first to make it to the americas, via the bering strait....then jumps
to claims that the Olmec were actually west african.

: http://freespace.virgin.net/abe.oppel/body_black_history.html

This revisionist says about radiocarbon dating, "This technique is
only effective with remains less than 40,000 years old."

see:
http://www.c14dating.com/agecalc.html

"In an earlier section we mentioned that the limit of the technique is
about 55-60 000 years. Obviously, the limit of the method differs
between laboratories dependent upon the extent to which background
levels of radioactivity can be reduced. Amongst accelerator
laboratories there has been mooted the theoretical possibility of
extended range dating to 75 000 yr +,"

I believe in giving credit where credit is due...it's a shame these
people are more concerned with furthering their agenda, than to learn
and teach.

Intoxxinated

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Dec 29, 2003, 5:32:19 PM12/29/03
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"steve" <st...@whoknowswut.org> wrote in message
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: On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 00:14:53 -0800, Randy Jabsco wrote:
:
: > I keep reading all the history about how the Europeans spread all
over the
: > earth, exploring all parts and spreading their influences. They
taught
: > other cultures and other people their ways.
: >
: > Can someone please post something that shows when the Negro
boarded ships to
: > explore the world and taught other cultures with their advanced
ways?
:
: Weren't there black warriors among the Moors who occupied Spain for
500
: years up to the 1600's?
[snip]
: You need to learn home global history really BAD, dude.

Home global history? You, son, need to learn some history.

: If you're in America, you need to get OUT of that place and learn
about
: the real world.

But if you're where _you_ are, you don't need to? You're seriously
full of shit. By the way, how much travelling _have_ you done? I've
certainly been to a few places.....

Rhinehold

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"Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote in message
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> "Rhinehold" <non...@business.com> wrote in message
> news:U-qdnUv9wcQ...@speakeasy.net...
>
> > You might want to get with it, you're completely wrong here and no
matter
> > how much you kick up a fuss your racist attitudes don't hold up with
> > history.
>
> And your revised afrocentric "history" doesn't hold up with academia. For
> the time being the White professors are staying silent just to protect
their
> careers and keep Jesse Jackson off their backs and when the time comes
that
> they no longer have to fear demonstrations and boycotts, just watch how
> savage the backlash will be as they drop-kick the afrocentroids
off-campus.

Ok... Except of course many of the professors that have concluded these
studies are white...

So, who exactly are we waiting on? Is there any hope of actually getting
through your think skull?

Yeah, probably not. Like I said, soon your kind will no longer be a weight
on our society.

> BTW, you're not fooling anyone with that "Rhinehold" bullshit, Dashawn, or
> whatever the hell your name is...

I'm not? Odd, I've been using the name Rhinehold for... oh, 14 years
online. Do a groups.google.com search. Just because I've not before spoken
to you doesn't mean I'm not who I say I am.

Retard.


Rhinehold

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"Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote in message
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What, you mean trying to give you proof that you're wrong? Isn't that
exactly what you asked for? Sorry, you're going to have to help me out.
What is it exactly you're looking for and I'll pop right out and get it for
you, you lazy racist bigot.

Rhinehold


skov<NOSPAM>

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Byker wrote:
> "Richard Smol" <jazzcat...@dds.nl> wrote in message
> news:n8WHb.394398$G77.2...@amsnews02.chello.com...
>
>
>>Randy Jabsco wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I keep reading all the history about how the Europeans spread all over
>>>the earth, exploring all parts and spreading their influences. They
>>>taught other cultures and other people their ways.
>>
>>Rather, they forced their ways on other cultures, usually by
>>sword or by gun and often with devastating results.
>
>
> Without the Euros to "force their ways," these "cultures" would have
> remained in the Bronze or Stone Ages.
>
>
>>>Can someone please post something that shows when the Negro boarded
>>>ships to explore the world and taught other cultures with their advanced
>>>ways?
>>
>>The Negro tribes were originally from West and Central Africa and set
>>out to explore the rest of the continent.
>
>
> On foot.
>

Yes - a babbling idiot could explore an entire continent on foot, given
enough time.

hank

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Dec 29, 2003, 7:40:25 PM12/29/03
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"Rhinehold" <non...@business.com> wrote in message news:<U-qdnUv9wcQ...@speakeasy.net>...

.................................

Your post is bullshit...

Read the book..."the bell curve" about IQ...and learn about your race....

You make excuses for the backward africans....

keep trying...excuses dont cut it...its what is real that

counts...africans are a backward primative race...

perhaps in 100,000 years they will catch up to us..

just because they may be the first race...dont mean a thing...

monkeys came even before them...so we should say they

are equal also? First dont mean best....

Stop acting like a park ape...


hank

hank

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Dec 29, 2003, 7:43:30 PM12/29/03
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steve <st...@whoknowswut.org> wrote in message news:<pan.2003.12.29...@whoknowswut.org>...

............................

no excuses,,,,blacks never evolved.....including today...

the proof? Just look around...camden....newark....wash DC....

and dont give me the slave bullshit line...that was tooooo long ago.

hank

Ward Stewart

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On 29 Dec 2003 10:06:23 -0800, jaz...@dds.nl (Richard Smol) wrote:

>"Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote in message news:<qwXHb.10473$lo3....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
>> "Richard Smol" <jazzcat...@dds.nl> wrote in message
>> news:n8WHb.394398$G77.2...@amsnews02.chello.com...
>>
>> > Randy Jabsco wrote:
>> >
>> > > I keep reading all the history about how the Europeans spread all over
>> > > the earth, exploring all parts and spreading their influences. They
>> > > taught other cultures and other people their ways.

Ever heard of the Moors? - Thought not!

ward

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osc

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Steven Litvintchouk <sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote in message news:<c%ZHb.5369$d4....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

FYI:

http://www.oryxconcept.com/tribute/antadiop.html

Peace

BroJack

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Dec 29, 2003, 8:26:37 PM12/29/03
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 18:55:06 -0500, "Rhinehold" <non...@business.com>
wrote:

That's bullshit revisionist history, and Black History Month is still
more than a month away.

BroJack

Rhinehold

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Dec 29, 2003, 8:33:01 PM12/29/03
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I bet 100 dollars that I can take a black man I know and measure his IQ
to yours and you'll find yourself lacking.

HTH - Rhinehold

hank wrote:

> ..................................

Beserker Rage

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"Ward Stewart" <wste...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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> On 29 Dec 2003 10:06:23 -0800, jaz...@dds.nl (Richard Smol) wrote:
>
> >"Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote in message
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> >> "Richard Smol" <jazzcat...@dds.nl> wrote in message
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> >>
> >> > Randy Jabsco wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I keep reading all the history about how the Europeans spread all
over
> >> > > the earth, exploring all parts and spreading their influences.
They
> >> > > taught other cultures and other people their ways.
>
> Ever heard of the Moors? - Thought not!

Ever read about the Moors (aside from Afrocentric sources)? - Thought not!

http://www.angeltowns.com/members/racialreal/phoen_moors.html


Byker

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"Rhinehold" <non...@business.com> wrote in message
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> I'm not? Odd, I've been using the name Rhinehold for... oh, 14 years
> online.

At least it's a tad more respectable than, say, "Mustafa Ngata Mbwewe" or
"Muhammed al-Amin Masoukh"...


Byker

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"skov<NOSPAM> @earthlink.net>" <"skov<NOSPAM> wrote in message
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>
>
> Byker wrote:

> > On foot.
> >
>
> Yes - a babbling idiot could explore an entire continent on foot, given
> enough time.

Moving south at 30 miles per generation, America's Indians could easily have
made the trip from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego in 10,000 years. Patagonia
was well inhabited by the time Magellan dropped by...


Byker

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"hank" <rightw...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Your post is bullshit...

"Reinhold" is bullshit. "Dashawn T. Washington" is probably more accurate.

> Read the book..."the bell curve" about IQ...and learn about your race....
>
> You make excuses for the backward africans....
>

> keep trying...excuses don't cut it...its what is real that

Byker

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"hank" <rightw...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> no excuses,,,,blacks never evolved.....including today...


>
> the proof? Just look around...camden....newark....wash DC....

Not to mention Lagos, Accra, Freetown, Monrovia, etc...


Byker

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"Rhinehold" <non...@business.com> wrote in message
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> What, you mean trying to give you proof that you're wrong? Isn't that
> exactly what you asked for? Sorry, you're going to have to help me out.

See below.

> What is it exactly you're looking for and I'll pop right out and get it
> for you, you lazy racist bigot.

Here's something to get you started, son:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/046509838X/qid=1072747653/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-2130745-8619206?v=glance&s=books

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1859842283/ref=pd_sim_books_4/002-2130745-8619206?v=glance&s=books


Byker

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"Ward Stewart" <wste...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Ever heard of the Moors? - Thought not!

Fortunately they never made it past the Pyrenees...


Byker

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"BroJack" <Bro...@windswept.net> wrote in message
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I think we're gonna have some fun with this one. We have haven't had a real
live afrocentroid since Magilla posted his bullshit about "Sub-Saharan
Megalithic Structures of the Dogon," etc...


Byker

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Dec 29, 2003, 9:22:15 PM12/29/03
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"Rhinehold" <non...@business.com> wrote in message
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> I bet 100 dollars that I can take a black man I know and measure his IQ
> to yours and you'll find yourself lacking.

Here's one with a genius-level IQ, pal. Trouble is, he's doing multiple
life sentences, as what usually happens when niggers are too smart for their
own good. What an IQ-100+ negro will do with his grey matter: If ever you
want to learn about one bad-ass nigger, read "All God's Children: The Bosket
Family and the American Tradition of Violence," by Fox Butterfield. On the
hardcover edition's dust jacket is a photo of Willie Bosket, charming,
magnetic, and brilliant. He is also the most cold-blooded criminal the New
York State penal system has ever seen. By the time he was in his teens, he
had committed over two hundred armed robberies and twenty-five stabbings.
The author examines the heritage of violence that followed Bosket's family
from their days in slavery in South Carolina to the present.

Willie didn't grow up in the projects with a welfare mama. His mother owned
a candy store, and worked hard to support her three kids. His dad was in
the slammer for stabbing the owner of drug store who refused to hand over
pornographic photos that he had left for development. Butch Bosket, with an
astounding 130 IQ, earned a doctorate while imprisoned and was hailed as a
"success story" for the NY penal system when he was paroled. So what's the
nigger do? He proceeds to molest the 5- and 7-year-old daughters of his
White girlfriend and after being arrested and charged for the sex offenses
is killed along with his White trash bitch while trying to escape. TNB!!!

As for Willie, he was no dunce. He was just plain whacko. From the of FIVE
on, he dished out assaults with deadly weapons, aggravated batteries,
robberies, arson, stabbings, shootings, and finally murder. When his mama
took him to a movie when he was six and a black man sitting next to him
accidently spilled Willie's popcorn, the little yard ape tried to strangle
the old man, who ran from the theater in a all-out panic. When an aunt came
to visit when he was nine, he got pissed at some remark she made and tried
to shove a fork down her throat. At the same age, while walking through
Central Park one day, he spotted a old spook, covered with newspapers,
asleep on a park bench. Willie set the papers alight and old boy woke up on
fire and ran into the lake as a ball of flame. By his mid-teens, he was
shooting and robbing (in that order) subway passengers, which is what
finally got him locked up for life. But even behind bars, he continues
toraise hell and has to be kept in a special fireproof cell, which he would
otherwise torch. To relieve the boredom he pens threatening letters to
whatever president happens to be in office, each of which will guarantee him
a visit from a Secret Serviceman.

This is one hell of a read, a multi-generational narrarative of a
psychopathic, murderous family whose bad genes are apparent all the way back
to antebellum South Carolina. The book is still in print, and if your local
bookstore doesn't have it, check out the public library.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0380728621/ref=sib_dp_pt/104-9430902-8504721#reader-link


BroJack

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Dec 29, 2003, 9:29:53 PM12/29/03
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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 02:22:15 GMT, "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:

>"Rhinehold" <non...@business.com> wrote in message
>news:pI6dnajbxL8...@speakeasy.net...
>> I bet 100 dollars that I can take a black man I know and measure his IQ
>> to yours and you'll find yourself lacking.


Borderline Retarded 70-75 IQ - Seligman p.151
Black Delinquents 74 Shuey p. 498
Africans (Africa) 75 Lynn as cited by Murray p. 288
Southern Black children 80.5 Shuey
White Delinquents 81 Shuey p. 498
Black Felons 81 Shuey p. 498
Black Females 82 Interpolated from SAT estimate
Black Average 85 IQ Seligman p.149
Colored From Africa 85 Lynn as cited by Murray p.
Dull-Normal 80-90 IQ Textbook by Wechsler
Border Black Children 87 Shuey, and SAT Tables, 1991
Northern Black Children 87.6 Shuey, and SAT Tables, 1991
Black G12 NAEP Math 89 (7)
Black US Northern Average 90 IQ Jensen(4)
Urban North Black 91.1 Shuey
Hisp G12 NAEP Math 92 (7)
White Felons 92 Shey p. 498
White Chronic Welfare 92 Murray
Overall Criminals 92 Murray
Malays 96 Lynn 1977 (Seligman)
White American Girls 96 SAT Tables, 1991
White Unwed - No Welfare 98 Murray
Mixed Child of Black 100 Murray p. 310 (5)
Adopted Asian Children 100 Sandra Scarr
American Students 100 Cattell's culture Fair Test
British 100 Lynn 1977 (Seligman)
Average Intelligence 90-109 IQ Textbook by Wechsler
Mainland China 101 Lynn (Seligman)
White CLAS Reading & Math 100 A.Hu set by definition (6)
Asian Calif CLAS Math 102 A.Hu (7)
White G12 NAEP math 102 (7), and SAT Tables, 1991
British Children 102 IQ Lynn & Song 1994
Malnourished Korean Adult 102 Winick, Meyer and Harris 1975 (2)
Asian Average 103-4 Murray
Korean (est) 105 IQ Lynn & Song 1994
Chinese Hong Kong 106 IQ Chan & Lynn 1989
Chinese Hong Kong 106.7 Lynn 1982 (Seligman)
Japanese 9 Year Olds 107 IQ Shigehisa & Lynn 1991
Korean 108.5 IQ Lynn & song 1994
Asian G12 NAEP math 109 (7)
Korean Children in Korea 109 IQ Lynn & Song 1994
Chinese Hong Kong 109.8 Lynn 1982 (Seligman)
Bright-Normal 110-119 IQ Textbook Wechseler
Korean Adults in Belgium 110 Frydman & Lynn 1989
Chinese 110 Lynn 1977 (Seligman) Well
Nourished Korean Adult 112 Winick, Meyer and Harris 1975 (2)
North Dakota Public Schools 112 SAT Table, 1991, and NAEP
Jewish Boys 112.8 verbal Ann Arbor Institute
(Seligman)
Texas Non-public Schools 116 naepmath.pdf
Adopted White children 120 Sandra Scarr
Whites at UC Berkeley 124 A.Hu top 5% top 1/3 of UC
Superior 120-129 IQ Text Wechsleler
Above Superior 130 & above By Definition
White/Asian MIT 138 A.Hu (top0.5% of population)

Dr. DuFonet

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"Randy Jabsco" <Randy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I keep reading all the history about how the Europeans spread all over the
> earth, exploring all parts and spreading their influences. They taught
> other cultures and other people their ways.
>
> Can someone please post something that shows when the Negro boarded ships
to
> explore the world and taught other cultures with their advanced ways?
>
>
Negroes did not need to go to Europe. Europe needed to go elsewhere.
--
Freedom of thought entails no "Intellectual Property".


Dr. DuFonet

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"Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote in message
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> "steve" <st...@whoknowswut.org> wrote in message
> news:pan.2003.12.29...@whoknowswut.org...
>
> > In fact.......and don't forget.....we all started in Africa about 60,000
> > years ago.
>
> And those who left Africa way back when evolved into something worthwhile.
>
> Those who stayed behind remained stuck in an evolutionary time warp.
>
> http://www.thirdworldplanet.com/pic/kisscow2.jpg
> http://www.thirdworldplanet.com/pic/shampooing.jpg
> http://dementia.lunaticsworld.com/cultures/images/bullsballs.jpg
>
Evolution is degeneration. Get a clew.

Dr. DuFonet

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"Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote in message
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I just want to say: I have lived in peace among blacks for many years and I
walk among them without fear. I have never met a black I couldn't reason
with. The black is a human just like I am. I have lived in neighborhoods
where I was the only white. I am blonde and fair. I get along easily with
people. I don't know what you are trying to prove It makes absolutely no
sense. The only people one has to fear are those who want to take something
away one has. I think you are afraid of black people because you think they
have the power to take something away from you. I think you are paranoid. A
black person is more of a man than you are. If you were to go in the
neighborhoods where I have gone, and where I have lived, alone, you might
encounter certain difficulties due to your fear.


wahitaw warrior

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"Intoxxinated" <tull...@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:<bsq9ih$av2$1...@roundup.shout.net>...

Afrocentric bullshit just wont go away will it.......

As for the Olmecs they clearly show more chinese traits than africans,
big lips dont mean shit.....they left no trace of the african culture
anywhere except for massive stone heads. Clyde Waters tried to tie
some markings to mande language but Clyde is fucknut and mainstream
linguists doubt his methods.

Look....primitive man walked out of africa and populated the planet,
thats pretty much a given..but as far as the black chinese shang,or
nahki...or the olmecs, its all afroicentric bullshit that hangs on a
very slender thread.

All this afrocentric bullshit on how man would not have developed the
technology he has today is bullshit. Sure there were african
influences in southern Europe and the middle east but nothing was
"stolen" from the ancient africans, man learns from his fellow man.

Every argument I see about africans influences either ends up with
"whitey stole it" or "the white man destroyed the evidence"

Riverman

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Dec 30, 2003, 1:19:50 AM12/30/03
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"Dr. DuFonet" <accord...@mindsproing.cop> wrote in message news:<6I6Ib.11310$lo3....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...

> "Randy Jabsco" <Randy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:bsonmv$n51$0...@pita.alt.net...
> > I keep reading all the history about how the Europeans spread all over the
> > earth, exploring all parts and spreading their influences. They taught
> > other cultures and other people their ways.
> >
> > Can someone please post something that shows when the Negro boarded ships
> to
> > explore the world and taught other cultures with their advanced ways?
> >
> >
> Negroes did not need to go to Europe. Europe needed to go elsewhere.

Read Van Sertima's book, African Influence in Ancient Europe or his
most famous work,They Came Before Columbus.Very enlightening works.

Byker

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"Dr. DuFonet" <accord...@mindsproing.cop> wrote in message
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> I have never met a black I couldn't reason with.

You don't get out much, do you?

http://www.newnation.org/Images/ReginaldDenny.jpg

Come back and talk to us after a TNB experience


Byker

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Dec 30, 2003, 9:50:04 AM12/30/03
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"wahitaw warrior" <washitaw...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Afrocentric bullshit just wont go away, will it.......


>
> As for the Olmecs they clearly show more chinese traits than africans,
> big lips dont mean shit.....they left no trace of the african culture
> anywhere except for massive stone heads. Clyde Waters tried to tie
> some markings to mande language but Clyde is fucknut and mainstream
> linguists doubt his methods.
>
> Look....primitive man walked out of africa and populated the planet,
> thats pretty much a given..but as far as the black chinese shang,or
> nahki...or the olmecs, its all afroicentric bullshit that hangs on a
> very slender thread.
>
> All this afrocentric bullshit on how man would not have developed the
> technology he has today is bullshit. Sure there were african
> influences in southern Europe and the middle east but nothing was
> "stolen" from the ancient africans, man learns from his fellow man.
>
> Every argument I see about africans influences either ends up with
> "whitey stole it" or "the white man destroyed the evidence"

Gotta make those black kids "feel good about themselves"....


Byker

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Dec 30, 2003, 9:50:03 AM12/30/03
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"Dr. DuFonet" <accord...@mindsproing.cop> wrote in message
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> Negroes did not need to go to Europe. Europe needed to go elsewhere.

And did. Africoons just stayed at home and vegetated...


Byker

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Dec 30, 2003, 9:50:05 AM12/30/03
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"Riverman" <gog...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>
> Read Van Sertima's book, African Influence in Ancient Europe or his
> most famous work,They Came Before Columbus.Very enlightening works.

Which have as much historical value as Von Daniken's "Ancient Astronaut"
tripe...


Byker

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Dec 30, 2003, 9:50:07 AM12/30/03
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"Dr. DuFonet" <accord...@mindsproing.cop> wrote in message
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>
> Evolution is degeneration. Get a clew.

http://www.imagedump.com/pics/3556.jpg


the niggest

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Dec 30, 2003, 10:42:59 AM12/30/03
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"wahitaw warrior" <washitaw...@hotmail.com> wrote


> Look....primitive man walked out of africa and populated the planet,
> thats pretty much a given..

No it's not. There have ben several waves of emigration and re-immigration
out of and back into Africa. Latterly, Caucasian immigrants from western
Pakistan founded cities there, in Mesopotamia, and in Egypt.

Aboriginal remains have been found in Australia of people who died 60,000
years ago and had no African DNA. They sure didn't arrive out of Africa.


--
hth

the_niggest

twitting negroes online since 2000AD


the niggest

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Dec 30, 2003, 10:44:18 AM12/30/03
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"Dr. DuFonet" <accord...@mindsproing.cop> wrote

> Evolution is degeneration. Get a clew.

Has news of Charles Darwin not reached you yet?

hank

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Dec 30, 2003, 11:48:00 AM12/30/03
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"Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote in message news:<Ud5Ib.11179$lo3....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...

.............................

Not to mention the "black" problem in London england...

new york....LA....chicago....etc etc ad nausum....


hank

wahitaw warrior

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Dec 30, 2003, 1:20:32 PM12/30/03
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gog...@pacbell.net (Riverman) wrote in message news:<b4b2a645.0312...@posting.google.com>...

Van Sertima didnt do research, the african olmec connection is
afrocentric bullshit. The african skeletons in south america could
just as well be chinese.
There were no remnants of a great african culture left by the
olmecs,the basalt heads do not resemble either nubians nor mande
speaking people, the only "linguist" who can read the mande linguistic
connection is clyde waters,, who is laughable among academics..along
with van sertima...

A lot has been proven and disproven since the 70s....van sertima is
gobbled up by the black people and the afrocentrists but his research
or lack of is flawed.


There just isnt any credible evidence that african influenced the
olmec culture or any other people in america.

I think when Clyde Waters got slapped down on the mande olmec
connection he then said that the chinese "shang" dynasty could have
made the trip, but he also claims the chinese the chinese shang
dynasty was black too.....though he has no evidence to back this up
and has pretty much been proven wrong.

A lot of this material on blacks in america and blacks in china is old
material that has pretty much been disproven. Even when disproven it
continues to be believed, the afrocentrist when backed into a corner
with facts just scream racism, the white man lied, etc...

Ashland Henderson

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Dec 30, 2003, 2:31:53 PM12/30/03
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rightw...@hotmail.com (hank) wrote in message news:<52d5a174.03122...@posting.google.com>...
> "Rhinehold" <non...@business.com> wrote in message news:<U-qdnUv9wcQ...@speakeasy.net>...

> > "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote in message
> > news:rwXHb.10474$lo3....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > > "steve" <st...@whoknowswut.org> wrote in message
> > > news:pan.2003.12.29...@whoknowswut.org...
> > >
> > > > In fact.......and don't forget.....we all started in Africa about 60,000
> > > > years ago.
> > >
> > > And those who left Africa way back when evolved into something worthwhile.
> > >
> > > Those who stayed behind remained stuck in an evolutionary time warp.
> > >
> > > http://www.thirdworldplanet.com/pic/kisscow2.jpg
> > > http://www.thirdworldplanet.com/pic/shampooing.jpg
> > > http://dementia.lunaticsworld.com/cultures/images/bullsballs.jpg
> > >
> > > Get with it, people...
> >
> > You might want to get with it, you're completely wrong here and no matter
> > how much you kick up a fuss your racist attitudes don't hold up with
> > history. I've already provided many links, the reason that the
> > civilizations in Africa are as they are now are mainly because of external
> > influences instead of a lack of development. There is proof that Africans
> > visited Europe when the europeans were nothing but tree-worshiping picts.
> >
> > Besides the point, you can keep spouting your ill-informed bigotry and die
> > out, the rest of society is going to come to the realization that we are all
> > the same race with different environmental alterations to our bodies that
> > change over time, no more and no less.
> >
> > Rhinehold
>
> .................................
>
> Your post is bullshit...

> Read the book..."the bell curve" about IQ...and learn about your race....
> You make excuses for the backward africans....
> keep trying...excuses dont cut it...its what is real that

> counts...africans are a backward primative race...
> perhaps in 100,000 years they will catch up to us..
> just because they may be the first race...dont mean a thing...
> monkeys came even before them...so we should say they
> are equal also? First dont mean best....
> Stop acting like a park ape...

I do so love to see the naked voice of republican far-right conservatism
speak. I've looked at "The Bell Curve". I'd suggest you read Stephen
Jay Gould's "The Mismeasure of Man". What you have going is ignorance
mixed with stupidity, the true voice of far-right conservatism.

I note that the far-right white supremist crowd never mention that by
the same silly measurements they are inferior to asians.

MIB529

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Dec 30, 2003, 2:57:56 PM12/30/03
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IIRC, those dates are a little out of date. 30,000 years just happens
to be when neanderthals went extinct; cro-magnon started 40,000 years
ago. The dates for North and South America are a bit young in light of
new archaeological and geologic evidence.

steve <st...@whoknowswut.org> wrote in message news:<pan.2003.12.29...@whoknowswut.org>...

> On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 00:14:53 -0800, Randy Jabsco wrote:
>
> > I keep reading all the history about how the Europeans spread all over the
> > earth, exploring all parts and spreading their influences. They taught
> > other cultures and other people their ways.
> >
> > Can someone please post something that shows when the Negro boarded ships to
> > explore the world and taught other cultures with their advanced ways?
>

> Weren't there black warriors among the Moors who occupied Spain for 500
> years up to the 1600's?
>
> I also think there were blacks among the muslim armies that invaded the
> Balkans and nearly took Vienna in the 1600's. The old pictures recording
> the event certainly show some very dark guys climbing the assault ladders.
>
> Going back a bit further.....the people who became the Australian
> Aborigines walked from Africa to Australia 50,000 years ago - taking a few
> thousand years to spread along the beaches of Asia and into Australia.
> They have left their genetic markers behind them all along the way....and
> on into North and South America where their descendants became native
> North Americans 12,000 years ago.
>
> The Polynesians - descended from those same people - and later arrivals -
> were sailing (in ocean-going canoes) - between Madagascar, off the east
> cost of Africa and the west coast of South America - the LONG way - 3,000
> years before a European went *anywhere*.

>
> In fact.......and don't forget.....we all started in Africa about 60,000

> years ago. The Europeans are stay-at-homes compared to almost everyone
> else.
>
> "The Journey of Man" - Spencer Wells: 2003.
>
> You need to learn home global history really BAD, dude.
>
> If you're in America, you need to get OUT of that place and learn about
> the real world.

Steve

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Dec 30, 2003, 3:03:43 PM12/30/03
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"Randy Jabsco" <Randy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<bsonmv$n51$0...@pita.alt.net>...
> I keep reading all the history about how the Europeans spread all over the
> earth, exploring all parts and spreading their influences. They taught
> other cultures and other people their ways.
>
> Can someone please post something that shows when the Negro boarded ships to
> explore the world and taught other cultures with their advanced ways?

We all came from Africans.
Your ancester was an African.

Stevel

Steve

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washitaw...@hotmail.com (wahitaw warrior) wrote in message news:<ed268d1a.03122...@posting.google.com>...

Africa is the cradle of mankind.

Stevel

Steve

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Dec 30, 2003, 3:17:11 PM12/30/03
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"the niggest" <the_n...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:<ff01a383143e9b2e...@news.teranews.com>...

> "wahitaw warrior" <washitaw...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
>
> > Look....primitive man walked out of africa and populated the planet,
> > thats pretty much a given..
>
> No it's not. There have ben several waves of emigration and re-immigration
> out of and back into Africa. Latterly, Caucasian immigrants from western
> Pakistan founded cities there, in Mesopotamia, and in Egypt.
>
> Aboriginal remains have been found in Australia of people who died 60,000
> years ago and had no African DNA. They sure didn't arrive out of Africa.

Of course they did. They are not a separate species.

Stevel

Steve

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Dec 30, 2003, 3:23:47 PM12/30/03
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"Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote in message news:<vggIb.26178$Pg1....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...

So what contributions have you made to human kind?
Or are you just a stupid wanker trying to bask in the achievements of your betters?

Stevel

Riverman

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Dec 30, 2003, 3:29:54 PM12/30/03
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"Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote in message news:<xggIb.26180$Pg1....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...

I see you haven't read it yet.I thought so.
Ignorance is bliss.

Rhinehold

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Dec 30, 2003, 3:35:04 PM12/30/03
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"Steve" <sste...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> > All this afrocentric bullshit


> > Every argument I see about africans influences either ends up with
> > "whitey stole it" or "the white man destroyed the evidence"
>
> Africa is the cradle of mankind.

I'm still trying to figure out how saying that 'black humans aren't
genetically inferior and had successful civilizations in the past' become
'afrocentric bullshit'.

I'm sure some smart hilljack racist will enlighten me.

Rhinehold


Intoxxinated

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Dec 30, 2003, 4:38:04 PM12/30/03
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"Rhinehold" <non...@business.com> wrote in message
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:
: "Steve" <sste...@aol.com> wrote in message

: news:224b4a15.03123...@posting.google.com...
:
: > > All this afrocentric bullshit
: > > Every argument I see about africans influences either ends up
with
: > > "whitey stole it" or "the white man destroyed the evidence"
: >
: > Africa is the cradle of mankind.
:
: I'm still trying to figure out how saying that 'black humans aren't
: genetically inferior and had successful civilizations in the past'
become
: 'afrocentric bullshit'.

Weeeeeelll.....you weren't saying, "black humans aren't genetically
inferior and had successful civilizations in the past" in the first
place, so it didn't "become" afrocentric bullshit, it started out that
way.

: I'm sure some smart hilljack racist will enlighten me.

Actually, I rather doubt any "hilljack racist" is available. Will I
do? I'll admit to being intelligent, but I'm not a "hilljack"
(whatever the fuck that is), and I'm not a racist....but I don't mind
enlightening you.

Douglas Berry

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Dec 30, 2003, 6:25:18 PM12/30/03
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Lo, many moons past, on Tue, 30 Dec 2003 15:42:59 GMT, a stranger
called by some "the niggest" <the_n...@my-deja.com> came forth and
told this tale in alt.atheism

>
>"wahitaw warrior" <washitaw...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
>
>> Look....primitive man walked out of africa and populated the planet,
>> thats pretty much a given..
>
>No it's not. There have ben several waves of emigration and re-immigration
>out of and back into Africa. Latterly, Caucasian immigrants from western
>Pakistan founded cities there, in Mesopotamia, and in Egypt.
>
>Aboriginal remains have been found in Australia of people who died 60,000
>years ago and had no African DNA. They sure didn't arrive out of Africa.

Cite on this study? Did they use mitochondria DNA?

Since we are all of the same species, we had a common origin point.
I'm reminded on the Eve study that placed the common ancestor of man
as a single woman who lived 150,000 years ago. Plenty of time for us
to spread, become isolated, develop different traits, and still remain
a single species.

--

Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5

Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"

the niggest

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Dec 30, 2003, 6:32:02 PM12/30/03
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"Steve" <sste...@aol.com> wrote

> > Aboriginal remains have been found in Australia of people who died
60,000
> > years ago and had no African DNA. They sure didn't arrive out of Africa.
>
> Of course they did.

No they did not. They have *no* *African* *DNA*. Alles klar?

the niggest

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"Douglas Berry" <pengu...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
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> Lo, many moons past, on Tue, 30 Dec 2003 15:42:59 GMT, a stranger
> called by some "the niggest" <the_n...@my-deja.com> came forth and
> told this tale in alt.atheism
>
> >
> >"wahitaw warrior" <washitaw...@hotmail.com> wrote
> >
> >
> >> Look....primitive man walked out of africa and populated the planet,
> >> thats pretty much a given..
> >
> >No it's not. There have ben several waves of emigration and
re-immigration
> >out of and back into Africa. Latterly, Caucasian immigrants from western
> >Pakistan founded cities there, in Mesopotamia, and in Egypt.
> >
> >Aboriginal remains have been found in Australia of people who died 60,000
> >years ago and had no African DNA. They sure didn't arrive out of Africa.
>
> Cite on this study?

With pleasure:-

http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/DailyNews/evolution_outofafrica010109.html

And a look at the dates involves proves they didn't get there from Africa
(way too fast).

Douglas Berry

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Lo, many moons past, on Tue, 30 Dec 2003 23:34:03 GMT, a stranger

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told this tale in alt.atheism

>"Douglas Berry" <pengu...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
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>> >Aboriginal remains have been found in Australia of people who died 60,000


>> >years ago and had no African DNA. They sure didn't arrive out of Africa.
>>
>> Cite on this study?
>
>With pleasure:-
>
>http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/DailyNews/evolution_outofafrica010109.html
>
>And a look at the dates involves proves they didn't get there from Africa
>(way too fast).

I was hoping for a link to the peer-reviewed journal where this was
published. A sound bite without any critical commentary isn't that
useful.

And I'm curious about your "way too fast comment." People have walked
across Asia in mere years.

Steve

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"the niggest" <the_n...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:<d42d03e1d5419cb5...@news.teranews.com>...

> "Steve" <sste...@aol.com> wrote
>
> > > Aboriginal remains have been found in Australia of people who died
> 60,000
> > > years ago and had no African DNA. They sure didn't arrive out of Africa.
> >
> > Of course they did.
>
> No they did not. They have *no* *African* *DNA*. Alles klar?

You are really very very stupid.
I suppose you think they evolved from kangaroos.

Stevel

xtmprs...@erols.com

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Byker wrote:
>
> "Steven Litvintchouk" <sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:u0_Hb.5371$d4....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> >
> > Genetically we are all the same species as the Homo Sapiens who first
> > evolved in Africa around 135,000 years ago.
>
> Behaviorally we're not. Last time I checked Homo Africanus had the monopoly
> on TNB....
Not true, the bedsheet boys have a franchise.

Steve

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"Rhinehold" <non...@business.com> wrote in message news:<t_qdnaQJSp-...@speakeasy.net>...

Don't count on it. There are no smart hilljack racists.
They tend to be unfortunate inbred morons as demonstrated by their
posts in this forum.

Stevel

xtmprs...@erols.com

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Rhinehold wrote:
>
> "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote in message

> news:rwXHb.10474$lo3....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...


> > "steve" <st...@whoknowswut.org> wrote in message
> > news:pan.2003.12.29...@whoknowswut.org...
> >

> > > In fact.......and don't forget.....we all started in Africa about 60,000
> > > years ago.
> >

> > And those who left Africa way back when evolved into something worthwhile.
> >
> > Those who stayed behind remained stuck in an evolutionary time warp.
> >
> > http://www.thirdworldplanet.com/pic/kisscow2.jpg
> > http://www.thirdworldplanet.com/pic/shampooing.jpg
> > http://dementia.lunaticsworld.com/cultures/images/bullsballs.jpg
> >
> > Get with it, people...
>
> You might want to get with it, you're completely wrong here and no matter
> how much you kick up a fuss your racist attitudes don't hold up with
> history. I've already provided many links, the reason that the
> civilizations in Africa are as they are now are mainly because of external
> influences instead of a lack of development. There is proof that Africans
> visited Europe when the europeans were nothing but tree-worshiping picts.
>

How did the inferior tree worshipping picts who could not even
reach africa manage to destroy the superior africans?

xtmprs...@erols.com

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the niggest wrote:
>
> "Dr. DuFonet" <accord...@mindsproing.cop> wrote
>
> > Evolution is degeneration. Get a clew.
>
> Has news of Charles Darwin not reached you yet?

It went right past him.

xtmprs...@erols.com

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osc wrote:
>
> Steven Litvintchouk <sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote in message news:<c%ZHb.5369$d4....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>...


> > steve wrote:
> >
> > > In fact.......and don't forget.....we all started in Africa about 60,000
> > > years ago.
> >

> > Homo Sapiens first appeared 125,000 - 150,000 years ago, in Africa.
> >
> > In fact, there is now some DNA evidence that the dog was domesticated by
> > humans as much as 100,000 years ago.
> >
Only 15,000 yeqrs ago.
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/11/21/coolsc.dogorigin/index.html

> >
> >
> > -- Steven L.
>
> FYI:
>
> http://www.oryxconcept.com/tribute/antadiop.html
>
> Peace

Rhinehold

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<xtmprs...@erols.com> wrote in message
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They didn't. The Picts were enveloped by the people who did the same thing
to the Africans.

Rhinehold


Byker

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<xtmprs...@erols.com> wrote in message
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> > > In fact, there is now some DNA evidence that the dog was domesticated
> > > by humans as much as 100,000 years ago.
> > >
> Only 15,000 yeqrs ago.
> http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/11/21/coolsc.dogorigin/index.html

And considering all the wildlife surrounding them for that 125,000-150,000
years, the Africoons didn't domesticate shit...


Beserker Rage

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"Steve" <sste...@aol.com> wrote in message
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African doesn't necessarily equal black. Understand nigger?


Riverman

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Well,the Olmec Heads seemed pretty "Nubian"to me-large noses and
Negroid lips.But even if you don't believe the heads are Negroid what
about all the figurines the German anthropologist,Weiner I think his
name was,found in the excavation of Olmec sites in the 1920's?They are
no doubt Negro art or at the very least art influenced by the
prescence of Africans.
The Shang dynasty wasn't Black but it is interesting to see that
there were examples of obvious repicas of blacks found in their art
collections.fact is,there were large migrations of different peoples
from all parts of the world during ancient times.To not believe that
is incredibly naive.

Douglas Berry

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><xtmprs...@erols.com> wrote in message

Other than cattle. Oxen. Oh, and cats.

Dostinct lack of wolves to domesticate in Africa, you might notice.

Jonathan

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"Randy Jabsco" <Randy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<bsonmv$n51$0...@pita.alt.net>...
> I keep reading all the history about how the Europeans spread all over the
> earth, exploring all parts and spreading their influences. They taught
> other cultures and other people their ways.
>
> Can someone please post something that shows when the Negro boarded ships to
> explore the world and taught other cultures with their advanced ways?

Hello Randy,

My pleasure in educating you :)

Ok I am a FACTUAL based person. I don't care what color you are, but
instead deal with WHAT you are. There are white trash idiots and
there are black trash idiots. Face it, Einstein was UNIQUE and not
the norm. Most people fall somewhere in the middle of the bell curve
at best. ... ok with that digression out of the way, I will deal with
your question at hand.

You asked about African exploration of planet earth over recorded
history ... well Randy, ALL races have explored this Shiny Blue Planet
... known as Earth for 10s of thousands of years (notice the
Battlestar Galactica reference). Anyways, Negriod people had an
influence on early Europe. Hannable was not a blue eyed blone haired
goose stepping white boy ... nope, he was a fair skinned Etheopian
negro. A nigger ... a jigaboo ... a non-white. When Hannable pushed
the Romans to the marshy areas of the coast, his armys could go no
further ... this lead to the Romans establishing the city of Venice.

Now I used the racial perjoratives above to demonstrate and attack the
contention held by some that niggers, i.e. negros are only good for
pulling wagons, or bad for causing havoc. Blacks really could do
better for themselves, its just that blacks corrupt blacks at a very
early age and send them into a spiral of destruction. I grew up black,
and I saw the self-destructive attitudes and behavior of other blacks.
Blacks no longer need the klan to destroy them, blacks now destroy
themselves on "auto-pilot".

Through out Europe there are carved reliefs on chapels and cathedrals
that show negros at the feet of some carvings dating back to 1200 AD
or so. Yes, the Eurpean back then knew of the Dark Skinned people
from south. Wonder if the crime rates were high too? Levity.

Also, there was a half-bread in the court of Peter the Great! Yep,
niggers some how soiled that party to :)

Alexander Pushkin - Ethiopia's Greatest Gift to Russia.

Pushkin has been called "Ethiop's son: Africa's contribution to
Europe's freedom struggles and world literature". He is also Russia's
most beloved and greatest poet credited for establishing Russia's
modern literature. Pushkin's mother descended from Abraham Petrovich
Hannibal, widely believed to be an Ethiopian who served Peter the
Great as an army general. Ethiopia has now named a major street in
honor of Pushkin and his 200 year anniversary was marked in Addis
Ababa in 1999. Henry Louis Gates and Kwame Appiah, eminent scholars at
Harvard write that Pushkin honored his African heritage.

http://www.ethiopians.com/arts/Alex_pushkin.jpg

Africans, Chinese, South Americans, and Europeans were trading with
each other for thousands of years. Before Columbus, the Chinese were
already dropping anchor down near Baha California about 2000 years
ago. The Vikings, were visiting New Foundland and North America at
least 300 years before Columbus. White mummys and remains have been
found in the Americas dating back thousands of years ... there is a
big issue about that because native Americans, Indians, have been
disputing it ... but its true ... Whites were here in small numbers,
thousands of years ago. Egyptian and South American artifacts and
influences have been discovered in tombs and buildings on both
continents ... HUMANS have been intermingling with one another for
1000s of years.


You see blacks and whites BOTH have writen negros out of the
historical narrative. Whites primarily do that because of
racism/ignorance, and blacks do it because it helps them better
promote the "victim status quo". If negros were expected to stand on
their own two feet, there would be no motivation for the NAACP or the
Jesse Jacksons of this world. There would be excuse for standing on a
street corner selling crack and getting busted by five-O ... most
black leaders say that blacks have no choice but to commit crime to
survive. They say that white America keeps it's boot on the negro's
neck. Hmmm, then what they hell am I doing making $50.00/hour as an
Oracle Developer ... hmmmm. Guess I just done sold out to white
thinking ... shame on me!


So I could go on, but why bother? A white racist is going to hate
niggers no MATTER what we do. A black RACIST is going to IGNORE black
accomplishments no MATTER what they are ... in order to foster the
"woe is me" and "give me some special considerations" line of
business.

See racism and ignorance cuts both ways Randy. There are whites who
are reading this getting ready to write the typical, "you nigger, you
are not as smart as me jigaboo pourch monkey" responce, then there are
blacks who are reading this about to respond with the typical, "you
sell out house nigger, you think you are better then me, come see the
real stuggles in white racist america ... blah blah blah". Sigh,
people really are very simplistic. What makes humans so
interesting/complicated is not our brain functions, but the randomness
of behavior. e.g. there hasn't been a new emotion or way of thining
in the human brain for tens of thousands of years. We all do the SAME
thing, just in randomly unpredictable order. Our emotions are finite.
Our skills are finite. We think, plan, and do the same thing
generation after generation after generation. 2000 years from now
there will be some sort of internet and the SAME exact "waste of
fucking time" discussions will be taking place then as now.

What the planet needs is a good dose of Gamma/Beta radiation to
motivate some mutations so we can evolve!


P.s. Randy, Britain and Germany owe there existence to the Romans.
Now I am not going to explain or educate you as to why that is, but I
direct you to read about it at your local library or just watch the
History Channel :)

Byker

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"Douglas Berry" <pengu...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
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>
> Other than cattle. Oxen.

Introduced from the Mediterranean areas of Africa, and "exotic" species when
you think about it.

> Oh, and cats.

Even with the Egyptians, that was more coexistence than domestication.

> Dostinct lack of wolves to domesticate in Africa, you might notice.

There were and still are wild dogs, which the natives apparently decided
just weren't worth the bother....


Douglas Berry

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Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 31 Dec 2003 17:23:22 GMT, a stranger

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tale in alt.atheism

>"Douglas Berry" <pengu...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message


>news:acp5vvkuagoes87pe...@4ax.com...
>>
>> Other than cattle. Oxen.
>
>Introduced from the Mediterranean areas of Africa, and "exotic" species when
>you think about it.

Cite?

>> Oh, and cats.
>
>Even with the Egyptians, that was more coexistence than domestication.

Wrong. We do have their mummies, remember. Felis domesticus, the
domesticated house cat. In Africa.

>> Distinct lack of wolves to domesticate in Africa, you might notice.


>
>There were and still are wild dogs, which the natives apparently decided
>just weren't worth the bother....

Cosnidering we are talking about hyenas, for the most part, I'd say
so. Wolves were easier to deal with.

xtmprs...@erols.com

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Except for dogs and cattle.

Byker

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"Douglas Berry" <pengu...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
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> Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 31 Dec 2003 17:23:22 GMT, a stranger
> called by some "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> came forth and told this
> tale in alt.atheism
>
> >"Douglas Berry" <pengu...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
> >news:acp5vvkuagoes87pe...@4ax.com...
> >>
> >> Other than cattle. Oxen.
> >
> >Introduced from the Mediterranean areas of Africa, and "exotic" species
when
> >you think about it.
>
> Cite?

College history text, c.1978.

> >> Oh, and cats.
> >
> >Even with the Egyptians, that was more coexistence than domestication.
>
> Wrong. We do have their mummies, remember. Felis domesticus, the
> domesticated house cat.

Which, unike the dog, is pretty much the same size and weight that it was
millenia ago.

> In Africa.

Again, they coexisted with humans. "Domestication" is open for
interpretation since cats have minds of their own.

> >> Distinct lack of wolves to domesticate in Africa, you might notice.
> >
> >There were and still are wild dogs, which the natives apparently decided
> >just weren't worth the bother....
>
> Cosnidering we are talking about hyenas, for the most part, I'd say
> so. Wolves were easier to deal with.

They're not wolves. They're still there. And they've since been
domesticated -- by Whites....

http://www.wildnetafrica.com/wildlifearticles/zoologic/1998/imgs_zoologic/zoo_mayjune98_wilddog.jpg


wahitaw warrior

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gog...@pacbell.net (Riverman) wrote in message news:<b4b2a645.03123...@posting.google.com>...

I have never seen any shang or chinese art that had fiqures that
resemble "blacks" or africans. got any links ?
Only thing I have heard of is the red and black ware but this could
just be coincidence or the fact that china and africa had some contact
thru trading partners in the middle east.

The olmec heads resemble chinese more than they resemble nubians. Look
at other olmec artifacts, the statuettes, drawings etc...none look
like the basalt heads. Why is there no more evidence than the
heads.Look at the people today in the area, a lot of them also
resemble the basalt heads, look at nubians and you will see very
little in common. Big lips dont mean shit.

As for Wiercinskis study of skulls he was working with heavily
fragmented skull elements and even at the conclusion of his study
there was just as much evidence pointing to the skulls being mongoloid
or caucasoid as there was for them being africoid..... he did a poor
job and the afrocentrists have jumped on his data and ran with it
because though it is just as possible to say the skulls were asian or
other than black, they *could* be black according to his shoddy
methodology.

Steve

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"Beserker Rage" <BeserkerRage@nordicseas> wrote in message news:<8e94dec8fe66c0b4...@news.teranews.com>...

You are a pathetic moron. All Africans were black. I am white but my
distant ancestors were black as were most normal people. I am very
happy with that. You could be a rare exception.
I would say that yours were probably porcine but you clearly aren't
smart enough.
I expect it's as a result of to much inbreeding in your family.

Stevel

Byker

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"Jonathan" <ghett...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> Alexander Pushkin - Ethiopia's Greatest Gift to Russia.

Oh, lordy, here we go with the Pushkin-was-a-black-man routine again...


Light Templar

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"Douglas Berry" <pengu...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
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> Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 31 Dec 2003 04:08:29 GMT, a stranger
> called by some "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> came forth and told this
> tale in alt.atheism
>
> ><xtmprs...@erols.com> wrote in message
> >news:3FF23AF6...@erols.com...
> >
> >> > > In fact, there is now some DNA evidence that the dog was
domesticated
> >> > > by humans as much as 100,000 years ago.
> >> > >
> >> Only 15,000 yeqrs ago.
> >> http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/11/21/coolsc.dogorigin/index.html
> >
> >And considering all the wildlife surrounding them for that
125,000-150,000
> >years, the Africoons didn't domesticate shit...
>
> Other than cattle. Oxen. Oh, and cats.
>
> Dostinct lack of wolves to domesticate in Africa, you might notice.

True, however wolves are not the only Canine species that was, or could have
been domesticated in Africa, if in fact
it did occur. Egyptians, for example, associated Jackals (Anubus) with the
underworld, and domesticated them, just as they did cats (Bast), just not as
often. Jackals and some species of Hyena were also domesticated in many
parts of Africa.


Douglas Berry

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Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 31 Dec 2003 19:26:39 GMT, a stranger

called by some "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> came forth and told this
tale in alt.atheism

>"Douglas Berry" <pengu...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message

>news:s746vvgcbn68cmsmo...@4ax.com...

>> Cite?
>
>College history text, c.1978.

Once again, you stun me with your inability to provide a cite.

>> Wrong. We do have their mummies, remember. Felis domesticus, the
>> domesticated house cat.
>
>Which, unike the dog, is pretty much the same size and weight that it was
>millenia ago.

We've not overbred the cat. Unlike dogs, getting cats to do work is
difficult.

>> In Africa.
>
>Again, they coexisted with humans. "Domestication" is open for
>interpretation since cats have minds of their own.

Don't I know it. But domestic felines form a distinct species, and
were domesticated in northern Africa.

>> Cosnidering we are talking about hyenas, for the most part, I'd say
>> so. Wolves were easier to deal with.
>
>They're not wolves. They're still there. And they've since been
>domesticated -- by Whites....
>
>http://www.wildnetafrica.com/wildlifearticles/zoologic/1998/imgs_zoologic/zoo_mayjune98_wilddog.jpg

Wow. You cited something. I'm amazed.

I'll grant you this point, but the cattle were domesticated and used
by Africans many thousand of years ago.

wahitaw warrior

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Looks white to me....I mean no black features whatsoever.

Maybe 6 generations earlier he may have had an ethiopian ancestor, but
who knows maybe ethiopia was white at one time, many egyptian
dynasties were "white", so maybe some of the ethiopians were white
too. :)

xtmprs...@erols.com

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the niggest wrote:
>
> "wahitaw warrior" <washitaw...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
> > Look....primitive man walked out of africa and populated the planet,
> > thats pretty much a given..
>
> No it's not. There have ben several waves of emigration and re-immigration
> out of and back into Africa. Latterly, Caucasian immigrants from western
> Pakistan founded cities there, in Mesopotamia, and in Egypt.
>

> Aboriginal remains have been found in Australia of people who died 60,000
> years ago and had no African DNA. They sure didn't arrive out of Africa.
>

How do you know they had no african DNA? It tends to break down after
60,ooo
years, so how was it recovered?

xtmprs...@erols.com

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"Under the counter “regional continuity” theory which Thorne supports,
modern man evolved from homo erectus in several different places — what
is
now Africa, Europe, east Asia and west Asia — followed by interbreeding
between the regions."

The article says they evolved from homo erectus, which came from africa.
You should read the *whole* article, not just the part
that agrees with what you want to be true.

the niggest

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"Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote

> They're not wolves. They're still there. And they've since been
> domesticated -- by Whites....
>
>
http://www.wildnetafrica.com/wildlifearticles/zoologic/1998/imgs_zoologic/zoo_mayjune98_wilddog.jpg

You might also have added elephants. Everyone who shared space with
elephants has managed to domesticate them, with the exception of sub-Saharan
negroes. Go figure.

the niggest

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<xtmprs...@erols.com> wrote in message
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> modern man evolved from homo erectus in several different places - what
> is
> now Africa, Europe, east Asia and west Asia - followed by interbreeding

> between the regions."
>
> The article says they evolved from homo erectus, which came from africa.

No it doesn't, fuckwit. Read the part you cited. "modern man evolved from
homo erectus in several different places". Which part don't you understand?

Byker

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"the niggest" <the_n...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote
>
> > They're not wolves. They're still there. And they've since been
> > domesticated -- by Whites....
> >
> >
>
http://www.wildnetafrica.com/wildlifearticles/zoologic/1998/imgs_zoologic/zoo_mayjune98_wilddog.jpg
>
> You might also have added elephants. Everyone who shared space with
> elephants has managed to domesticate them, with the exception of
sub-Saharan
> negroes.

A point not lost on afrocentroids, who are still flogging the dead horse of
the negroid Hannibal....


Riverman

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I base my citing of the African appearing figurines and statues on
the photos of Shang Dynasty art from Early Arfican Influence in Asia
by Van Sertima and the art exhibits from the Yucatan excavations from
his other work,They Came Before Columbus.
It is also pointed out that currents run from Africa to that part
of the Americas and tho it IS speculation,Van Sertima posits that
Africans could have built boats similiar to Thor Heyerdahl's Kon Tiki
and got over to Mexico that way.

the niggest

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"Riverman" <gog...@pacbell.net> wrote

> It is also pointed out that currents run from Africa to that part
> of the Americas and tho it IS speculation,Van Sertima posits that
> Africans could have built boats similiar to Thor Heyerdahl's Kon Tiki
> and got over to Mexico that way.

They could also have got off their black asses and invented a few things
like personal hygiene and forward food production planning, but they were
too stupid and lazy to do those either. TNEINED.

xtmprs...@erols.com

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The part where homo erectus evolved from kangaroos, lamebrain.

the niggest

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<xtmprs...@erols.com> wrote

> > No it doesn't, fuckwit. Read the part you cited. "modern man evolved
from
> > homo erectus in several different places". Which part don't you
understand?
> >
> The part where homo erectus evolved from kangaroos, lamebrain.

Gawd, we really have a dumb one here.

I'll type this really slowly so you can keep up.

Not all humans originated in Africa.

Some originated in "several different places".

This explains how they managed to reach Australia - a continent separated
from Asia by a long sea journey, you see? - ~40,000 years *before* they
managed to reach the Bering Strait by what should have been a much easier
overland route.

This happened because the inhabitants of Australia did not originate from
Africa. They originated from somewhere much nearer Australia.

We know this because homo erectus appeared in several different places and
because native Australians had no African DNA.

There. Aren't I good to you, fuckwit? Sorry I used a 4-syllable word there
but it's unavoidable when you're talking about Australia.

Al Klein

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On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 02:57:00 GMT, "the niggest"
<the_n...@my-deja.com> posted to alt.atheism:

>Not all humans originated in Africa.

Citation?
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agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
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Brent Norman

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"Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote in message news:<sggIb.26176$Pg1....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...

> "Dr. DuFonet" <accord...@mindsproing.cop> wrote in message
> news:8I6Ib.11312$lo3....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> > I have never met a black I couldn't reason with.
>
> You don't get out much, do you?
>
> http://www.newnation.org/Images/ReginaldDenny.jpg
>
> Come back and talk to us after a TNB experience

Pardon my ignorance, but what is "TNB" a short form for?

Taking one specific incident and extrapolating that to every black
person/neighbourhood is intellectual suicide.

Are you saying that all black people beat on whites? On the other
side of the fence I could show some isolated incidents of
racially-motivated white on black violence and call that a typical
experience, but that would be glaringly incorrect.

BroJack

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Jan 3, 2004, 7:43:14 AM1/3/04
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On 2 Jan 2004 22:34:01 -0800, nellig...@hotmail.com (Brent Norman)
wrote:

And I could show you this, Euro twit:

When James Byrd of Jasper Texas was dragged by rednecks, the big media
ran with it for weeks. The perps were convicted of a hate crime and
put to death.

In that same Jasper Texas, blacks dragged to death white, penniless
hitchhiker Ken Tillery. In Alexandria VA, 8-year-old Kevin Shiflett
had his throat slashed by black Gregory Murphy who shouted racial
hatred while performing the act. Murphy even left a note in his room:
"Kill them raceass whyte kids anyway." In SC, 17 blacks beat
bicyclist Troy Knapp into a vegetable. At UVA Charlottesville, roving
packs of blacks targetted and beat white and Asian kids. Some of the
perps frankly admitted targetting them because of race. In Alton,
Illinois, a white male, Richard Skelton was attacked and stomped to
death by a group of 25 blacks while black onlookers yelled, "Kill the
cracker". In Cleveland, 14 animals beat a white girl on "Beat A
White" day.

No hate crime charges were filed in these cases AND the major media
ignored these incidents. Imagine if the races had been reversed.

In Idaho, a Mr. Manley, a black football referee, ripped the camera
from the neck of a white woman who photographed him as he left the
field, injuring her in the process. Her husband, Lonnie Rae, ran from
the stands and called the man "nigger." Rae was charged with a hate
crime, which carried a max of 5 years and $5,000 fine. Manley who
committed a battery was charged with nothing!

You were saying something about unequal enforcement.

And of course when the Carr Bros. denigrated, raped, tortured, and
executed the five white divinity school students in Wichita, it was
called a "crime of convenience."

After a black man in Pittsburgh opened fire on a group of white
strangers, Dan Rather said, "Just because he opened fire on a group of
strangers while shouting racial epithets, we musn't jump to the
conclusion that this was a hate crime."

Oh well, at least one of the big media outlets reported that one.

BroJack


the niggest

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"Al Klein" <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 02:57:00 GMT, "the niggest"
> <the_n...@my-deja.com> posted to alt.atheism:
>
> >Not all humans originated in Africa.
>
> Citation?

See above in the thread, twerp.

Popescu Lucian

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Jan 3, 2004, 1:14:47 PM1/3/04
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You'll learn more about that in the future versions of Encarta. For
that matter, i learnt that Afrocentrisms, because they attack (white)
"racism" with an "alternative history" which brings niggers
selfesteem, are lies no more.

Al Klein

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On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 14:36:14 GMT, "the niggest"
<the_n...@my-deja.com> posted to alt.atheism:

>"Al Klein" <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote in message
>news:h9mcvv404bv04b8fg...@Pern.rk...
>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 02:57:00 GMT, "the niggest"
>> <the_n...@my-deja.com> posted to alt.atheism:

>> >Not all humans originated in Africa.

>> Citation?

>See above in the thread, twerp.

Sorry, that's not how it works. I'll take your ad hom as a "none".
--
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious
conviction."
- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)

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