"Gay" marriage has NEVER been about "gay rights", or even marriage.
Bay Area Resident Yes on 8!
infested with all manner of diseases and infections from their
rampant and mentally unbalanced sexual behavior. Their behavior
drives up their health care costs because they are extremely
high risk for excessive cost treatments. Their illnesses are
preventable by simply making changes to their lifestyles.
Queers want everyone else to pay for their bad choices and
behavior, that's all it amounts to. Why should 96% of the U. S.
population support a piddling 4% with no self-respect or
personal control?
David Johnston
<que...@disney.com> wrote:
>It's purely about money for health benefits. Queers are
>infested with all manner of diseases and infections from their
>rampant and mentally unbalanced sexual behavior.
Lesbians are less likely to get infections than heterosexuals are.
CB
"Bay Area Resident Yes on 8!" <que...@disney.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/03/your-money/03money.html
>
Very good observation.
Now watch shallow homo bigots of common sense try to label you as the hater
--
CB
"Larry Hewitt" <larr...@comporium.net> wrote in message
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> There is no god.
You remind me of the character in "30 Days of Night" when the vampire
says...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUr0IwxCJMk
Watch for it 55 sec. in
CB
"David Johnston" <da...@block.net> wrote in message
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Lesbians 'have higher heart disease risk'
Lesbians are generally fatter and have a higher risk of heart disease
compared to other women, a study suggests.
Researchers in the United States based their findings on a study of 324
lesbians living in California.
Health messages may not be getting through to lesbians
...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3100702.stm
CB
Fat chicks usually suffer from low self esteem caused by the knowledge of
participating in unnatural affection
bobinNY
where I work at, if you drink pop, or eat junk food your a minority, if your
gay you get a free pass. no one wants to touch health releated illness like
aids. but smoke or eat wrong and its health/ fitness class. all to cut down
on health cost.
juanjo
wrote:
Now what is absolutely hilarious about this post is that there is
nothing the New York Times article to support it.
Bill Steele
<aaa5513bae5ae1a4...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>,
"Bay Area Resident Yes on 8!" <que...@disney.com> wrote:
You're right, but for the wrong reasons. It's about big business trying
to prevent gay marriage because of the money they would have to pay in
spousal benefits. You don't need special diseases to make that
expensive.
And of course heterosexuals *never* get STDs...
RamRod Sword of Baal
wrote:
> It's purely about money for health benefits. Queers are
> infested with all manner of diseases and infections from their
> rampant and mentally unbalanced sexual behavior. Their behavior
> drives up their health care costs because they are extremely
> high risk for excessive cost treatments. Their illnesses are
> preventable by simply making changes to their lifestyles.
> Queers want everyone else to pay for their bad choices and
> behavior, that's all it amounts to. Why should 96% of the U. S.
> population support a piddling 4% with no self-respect or
> personal control?
I suppose for the same reason that the 4% have been supporting childbirth,
wife's diseases, child diseases and schooling long before HIV came upon the
world, and got nothing out of it, but you were happy enough about that as
long as they were paying and you have your snout in the pig trough.
If some of these 4% need something from what the 4% have been paying for,
for donkey's years, then the likes of whine, bitch and moan.
RamRod Sword of Baal
"Bill Steele" <ws...@cornell.edu> wrote in message
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...........and never screw around, they wait until they they married before
having sex and are 100% faithful :-)
And pigs fly
Anlatt the Builder
wrote:
Statistics on the relative health costs of gays and non-gays would be
very useful here. Got any?
One of the most expensive health-care items is CHILDBIRTH. And then
the people who have kids bring their kids into the health-care system,
and that's expensive too. Gays and lesbians are far less likely to
have kids than heterosexuals. So who is strainging the health-care
system, exactly?
Of course, it never occurred to most gay people over the last few
decades to complain that THEIR money - their tax money, their
corporations' profits - were going to pay for the health care of other
citizens'/employees' spouses, pregnancies, and kids. After all, we're
all in this together, right? I feel glad that my coworkers have these
expenses covered, so they don't have to live in fear all the time that
they'll be hit with unbearable medical expenses.
But just let the gays get equality - get the same coverage for their
spouses that straights have had all along - and, sure enough, somebody
will come crawling out of the woodwork to complain. Because, as we all
know, it is good and right and just for gays to spend money to pay for
the spouses of heterosexuals, but not the other way around. That's
fair. That's equal.
Right.
Your intial premise, by the way, is wrong. Even gays who already have
health-care coverage for their partners through corporate domestic-
partner coverage or civil-union legislation are still fighting for
equality in marriage. Gays want to get married for the same reasons
heterosexuals do.
CB
"RamRod Sword of Baal" <ram...@truthonly.com> wrote in message
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I've posted the stats on homo STD's vs. Hetro. It ain't perdy
Homo's get twice the diseases as Hetro and have shorter life spans.
There is no relative moral equivalence between Homo and Hetro
Bill Steele
<1c7a8a43-b9dc-42ea...@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
I can't believe "pressure from parents" would apply.
RamRod Sword of Baal
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-----------------
I hope you included Chlamydia the most common STD which it seems females are
the worse infected group, or did you conveniently forget that one as it does
not fit in with you hate filled agenda?
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/chlamydia/MY00625
a.. Women between the ages of 15 and 24 years have the highest chlamydia
rate of all age groups and both sexes. Teenage girls and young women are
most at risk because the cervix (opening to the uterus) is not fully mature
at that age, so it's more susceptible to infections.
a.. Men have a much lower rate of chlamydia than do women. In 2007, men
between the ages of 20 and 24 years had the highest rate of chlamydia
infection among males in all age groups.
Dionisio
> Lesbians 'have higher heart disease risk'
>
> Lesbians are generally fatter and have a higher risk of heart disease
> compared to other women, a study suggests.
Replace "Lesbians" with "West Virginians" and "women" with "Americans" and you've got a
polemic to wipe out an entire state for the cause of lowering health care...
You're welcome.
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
If at first you don't succeed, take a short nap.
--Bob, the RuneScape cat
(Brought to you by SigChanger. http://www.phranc.nl)
Dionisio
> where I work at, if you drink pop, or eat junk food your a minority, if
> your gay you get a free pass. no one wants to touch health releated
> illness like aids. but smoke or eat wrong and its health/ fitness
> class. all to cut down on health cost.
Consider why we're having a discussion about health care and the costs thereof: The Baby
Boomers.
Who births more babies and injects them into the populace, and thus health care? It ain't
the homosexuals; Rather low birth rates there. (Some babies cost the system oodles of cash
before even making it out of the womb.)
Take yer strawman and eat him. (Good source of fiber.)
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
A lock is a useless thing. It is not needed against the honest, and the thief regards it
as a pointer to wealth.
-- Dionisio
bobinNY
"Dionisio" <moc.rr....@stupid.com> wrote in message
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So some preventable diseases should be ignored? tax soda pop and be nice to
people that enjoy licking the assholes of multiple partners. I would
require immigrants to be educated, right now we allow people from sudan,
mexico, el salvador into our country, pumping out kids and they do not
speak or read well, they collect food stamps and some have several kids,
there are democrats that want free health care for illegals, that is nuts. I
am for several changes to healthcare like have everyone pay, get rid of
high malpractice lawsuits, no dropping of customers with pre existing
conditions, We do not need a public plan, the government has proven it can
not manage medicare, social security etc.. etc... stay away.
William (nmn) Taylor, Esq
<moc.rr....@stupid.com> wrote:
>Who births more babies and injects them into the populace, and thus health care? It ain't
>the homosexuals; Rather low birth rates there. (Some babies cost the system oodles of cash
>before even making it out of the womb.)
Homosexuals introduced HIV/AIDS onto the North American continent.
What do you think the cost of that little gift has been, cowboy?
RamRod Sword of Baal
"William (nmn) Taylor, Esq" <william-n...@stanford.edu> wrote in
message news:5fhsc55c4dmorj84g...@4ax.com...
Prove that "Homosexuals introduced HIV/AIDS onto the North American
continent"
Bill Steele
"bobinNY" <B...@eqifax.com> wrote:
> So some preventable diseases should be ignored? tax soda pop and be nice to
> people that enjoy licking the assholes of multiple partners. I would
> require immigrants to be educated, right now we allow people from sudan,
> mexico, el salvador into our country, pumping out kids and they do not
> speak or read well, they collect food stamps and some have several kids,
Like the Irish in the 19th century. It takes a generation or two.
> am for several changes to healthcare like have everyone pay, get rid of
> high malpractice lawsuits, no dropping of customers with pre existing
> conditions,
That's exactly what's in Congress now. Read the paper.
>We do not need a public plan, the government has proven it can
> not manage medicare, social security etc.. etc... stay away.
Simply a lie.
William (nmn) Taylor, Esq
Australia has had had two strikes against it from the git go so I
suggest that you focus your attention on your own country and its
problems and keep you nose out of the business of the American
people.
bobinNY
> In article <P7-dnWXo3cJlv1PX...@posted.gcicommunications>,
>
>>We do not need a public plan, the government has proven it can
>> not manage medicare, social security etc.. etc... stay away.
>
> Simply a lie.
The government is in debt up to its asshole, we are running out of money for
social security see google, medicare is projected to be trillions in debt
(google)
the american people voiced their opinion during Clinton administration, I
am happy with private health care, I don't need the governments nose up my
butt.
a 3 week wait for anyerism surgery does not cut it with me, I don't want a
public plan period.
RamRod Sword of Baal
-----------------------
Translation
I (William (nmn) Taylor, Esq) was caught lying and cannot prove my words.
Zlurb
> So some preventable diseases should be ignored? tax soda pop and be nice
> to people that enjoy licking the assholes of multiple partners. I would
> require immigrants to be educated, right now we allow people from
> sudan, mexico, el salvador into our country, pumping out kids and they
> do not speak or read well, they collect food stamps and some have
> several kids, there are democrats that want free health care for
> illegals, that is nuts. I am for several changes to healthcare like
> have everyone pay, get rid of high malpractice lawsuits, no dropping of
> customers with pre existing conditions, We do not need a public plan,
> the government has proven it can not manage medicare, social security
> etc.. etc... stay away.
and what if a poor prson gets sick.?..thy just lie donw and die..?..,l00zr
William (nmn) Taylor, Esq
<ram...@truthonly.com> wrote:
No, you are a nosey semiliterate aussie. My post are, for the most
part related to topics that reference events, conditions or thinking
in the US. Consequently, I have no obligation, need or desire to
provide any information you ask me for. Your best bet is to quit
responding to my posts.
Dionisio
> "Dionisio" <moc.rr....@stupid.com> wrote:
>> Consider why we're having a discussion about health care and the costs
>> thereof: The Baby Boomers.
>>
>> Who births more babies and injects them into the populace, and thus
>> health care? It ain't the homosexuals; Rather low birth rates there.
>> (Some babies cost the system oodles of cash before even making it out
>> of the womb.)
>>
>> Take yer strawman and eat him. (Good source of fiber.)
>
Death is preventable. So, "yes."
That was supposed to be your answer though.
"Ignore death."
What's the other one...? Oh yes, "Be fruitful and multiply."
Ignore the death, the cancer, the arthritis, the diabetes, the viruses and bacteria!
Ignore heart attacks, strokes, and embolisms!
Ignore kidney stones, anemia, brittle bones!
You've got some nerve, asking folks to ignore the consequences of life....
Life is a sexually-communical disease.
Ignore it.
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
Three blind mice. Three blind mice.
See how they run. See how they run.
They all ran after the farmer's wife,
She blew their brains out and was jailed for life.
Did you ever hear such a tale in your life,
With three blind mice?
--Dionisio 12/15/93
Dionisio
As I recall, Bill, it was God who introduced death to humanity.
That's something of His calling card, yes?
And you take *some* to task for following in His footsteps?!?
What's your beef? That the homosexuals are keeping it to themselves???
We've hardly got a monopoly on death. Heck, death has it's own section in most newspapers!
There's the sports pages, the international pages, the health pages, pages of "funnies"
and of letters to the editor... And there's also the obits.
Every one of them brought to you by the letters h - e - t - r - o - s - x and l. (There
are three "e"s after all.)
It is something of a wonder that homosexuals brought AIDS to America. Yes, I'll admit that.
One would have thought that heterosexuals taking "fornication vacations" to Asia would
have "got to the finish line" first.
Oh well.
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
The second theory of relativity: If your parents didn't have children, odds are, you won't
either.
Dionisio
Translation: "I am ignoring you by posting a reply."
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
If God is such a loving deity, why the apparent need to kill off sinners before they would
have died naturally? If He was truly loving, wouldn't He allow them every opportunity to
repent? By killing them, He has sent them directly to Satan, His enemy. Would a truly
compassionate being allow -- even dictate -- that their children be tortured mercilessly?
Think about it.
-- Dionisio, 1993
William (nmn) Taylor, Esq
<moc.rr....@stupid.com> wrote:
>William (nmn) Taylor, Esq wrote:
>> Dionisio <moc.rr....@stupid.com> wrote:
>>>Who births more babies and injects them into the populace, and thus health care? It ain't
>>>the homosexuals; Rather low birth rates there. (Some babies cost the system oodles of cash
>>>before even making it out of the womb.)
>>
>> Homosexuals introduced HIV/AIDS onto the North American continent.
>> What do you think the cost of that little gift has been, cowboy?
>
>As I recall, Bill, it was God who introduced death to humanity.
But it was homosexuality that burdened the US with the medical
expenses associated with the AIDS. Death is cheap.
William (nmn) Taylor, Esq
<moc.rr....@stupid.com> wrote:
>William (nmn) Taylor, Esq wrote:
>> "RamRod Sword of Baal" <ram...@truthonly.com> wrote:
>>>Translation
>>>I (William (nmn) Taylor, Esq) was caught lying and cannot prove my words.
>>
>> No, you are a nosey semiliterate aussie. My post are, for the most
>> part related to topics that reference events, conditions or thinking
>> in the US. Consequently, I have no obligation, need or desire to
>> provide any information you ask me for. Your best bet is to quit
>> responding to my posts.
>
>Translation: "I am ignoring you by posting a reply."
It was not a reply it was a statement of policy.
Bill Steele
I don't have a citation, but I think it's quite likely that Australia
has homosexuals, and Australia has AIDS. It's a worldwide problem, and
people worldwide are entitled to discuss it.
OTOH, they probably have a helluva lot better healthcare system than the
U.S.
Dionisio
> Dionisio <moc.rr....@stupid.com> wrote:
>>As I recall, Bill, it was God who introduced death to humanity.
>
> But it was homosexuality that burdened the US with the medical
> expenses associated with the AIDS. Death is cheap.
What, gonna gloss over the medical expenses of premature birth, addicted babies, and
pre-eclampsia? Gonna try to ignore the costs of pandemic flu, malaria, polio? How about
leprosy too? Yeah, whine on about the costs. I'll mention arthritis, hip replacements,
diabetes, heart disease; What the heck, I'll even toss in "erectile discfuntion." (One
simple *has* to treat that last if one is to "go forth and multiply...")
What you want to duck is that heterosexuals gave us all of that. (Or was Adam a lesbian?)
--
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For what it's worth, the whole Pauline tradition of drinking the blood of Jesus at holy
communion is in violation of the law that says drinking blood is an abomination. They say
it's only symbolic blood, so it's no more than symbolic abomination though.
(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) �� Why I'm a gay bathhouse attendant
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> William (nmn) Taylor, Esq wrote:
>> Dionisio <moc.rr....@stupid.com> wrote:
>>>As I recall, Bill, it was God who introduced death to humanity.
>>
>> But it was homosexuality that burdened the US with the medical
>> expenses associated with the AIDS. Death is cheap.
>
> What, gonna gloss over the medical expenses of premature birth,
> addicted babies, and pre-eclampsia? Gonna try to ignore the costs of
> pandemic flu, malaria, polio? How about leprosy too? Yeah, whine on
> about the costs. I'll mention arthritis, hip replacements, diabetes,
> heart disease; What the heck, I'll even toss in "erectile
> discfuntion." (One simple *has* to treat that last if one is to "go
> forth and multiply...")
>
> What you want to duck is that heterosexuals gave us all of that. (Or
> was Adam a lesbian?)
Everyday illnesses and those of the aged, have nothing in common with
diseases of the butt-fuckers.
Bill Steele
"(�`�.�Craig Chilton�.���) �� Why I'm a gay bathhouse attendant"
<progaym...@iowarentboys.com> wrote:
Except that ALL diseases cost money.
By your logic, men should be opposed to healthcare for women, and
vice-versa.
anonymous
>
> On Oct 5, 9:20 pm, "Bay Area Resident Yes on 8!" <que...@disney.com>
> wrote:
> > It's purely about money for health benefits.
I am not sure what you mean by health benefits? Firstly, homosexuals
start paying for
health benefits just like everybody else from the moment they start
working and paying taxes. Second of all, most homosexuals don't have
offspring so they don't have sick kids and wives making all sort of
claims on their health benefits. Additionally, the number of
homosexuals that wish to take a wife is extremely low as opposed to the
heterosexuals who have a divorce rate of around 45 percent and produce
kids from various
spouses along the way.
> Queers are
> > infested with all manner of diseases and infections from their
> > rampant and mentally unbalanced sexual behavior.
It is true that some homosexuals are infected with many diseases in the
same way that some heterosexual women and men are infected with all
sorts of diseases and infections.
> Their behavior
> > drives up their health care costs because they are extremely
> > high risk for excessive cost treatments.
Well, in Canada everyone is covered so it is a different story. As I
recall, in some parts of the USA if you have a lot of health claims,
they health insurer will simply drop your coverage all together or not
cover you for anything that you have made a claim on before.
> Their illnesses are
> > preventable by simply making changes to their lifestyles.
You may not approve of homosexuals getting married but in Canada it is
the law. The world can only hope you are a happily married women and
that your husband is good and faithful to you.
> > Queers want everyone else to pay for their bad choices and
> > behavior, that's all it amounts to.
Actually, there is no such thing as bad choices for homosexuals. The
life a good happy and satisfying life. The heterosexual male on the
other hand must find a woman that says yes. He then must turn over half
his assets during the marriage to his wife for the privilege of sex.
Very expensive. So don't talk to homosexuals about choices.
> Why should 96% of the U. S.
> > population support a piddling 4% with no self-respect or
> > personal control?
Don't worry, it will take at least 10 or 20 years for homosexuals to get
the right of marriage at the rate it is going. That means that if you
are 30 now, you will be close to 50, wringled and with a lower sex
drive. Your problems will be much bigger than worrying about
homosexuals, my good friend.
>
BE-VA
> juanjo wrote:
>>
>> On Oct 5, 9:20 pm, "Bay Area Resident Yes on 8!" <que...@disney.com>
>> wrote:
>>> It's purely about money for health benefits.
>
> I am not sure what you mean by health benefits? Firstly, homosexuals
> start paying for
> health benefits just like everybody else from the moment they start
> working and paying taxes. Second of all, most homosexuals don't have
> offspring so they don't have sick kids and wives making all sort of
> claims on their health benefits.
But they do account for more than 50% of all the AIDS cases in the US
and that generates hundreds of millions of dollars spent on FREE
TREATMENT of a disease that is easily prevented from spreading.
Homosexual males have been the No.1vector of AIDS for more than a
quarter of a century and show no signs of making any attempt to abate
the problem.They have cost the economy billions of dollars simply
because of their inherent sexual promiscuity.
RamRod Sword of Baal
"BE-VA" <blackwater...@testland.org> wrote in message
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Same old rubbish by the same old bigots, who always forget to mention that
HIV/AIDS is mainly a heterosexual disease around the world and that around
1/2 million heterosexual people in the USA are infected.
BE-VA
<ram...@truthonly.com> said:
THE RATE OF AIDS IN THE UNITED STATES IS LOWEST AMONG HETEROSEXUAL MALES
AND HIGHEST AMONG HOMOSEXUAL MALES. Go peddle your australian kangaroo
shit to some euro-peon fools who might believe you.
Lars Eighner
the lovely and talented BE-VA broadcast on alt.politics.homosexuality:
Lie. The rate is lowest among homosexual females.
> AND HIGHEST AMONG HOMOSEXUAL MALES. Go peddle your australian kangaroo
> shit to some euro-peon fools who might believe you.
--
Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> September 5910, 1993
289 days since Rick Warren prayed over Bush's third term.
Obama: No hope, no change, more of the same. Yes, he can, but no, he won't.
anonymous
>
> On 2009-11-01 18:48:25 -0500, anonymous <anon...@anonymous.com> said:
>
> > juanjo wrote:
> >>
> >> On Oct 5, 9:20 pm, "Bay Area Resident Yes on 8!" <que...@disney.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>> It's purely about money for health benefits.
> >
> > I am not sure what you mean by health benefits? Firstly, homosexuals
> > start paying for
> > health benefits just like everybody else from the moment they start
> > working and paying taxes. Second of all, most homosexuals don't have
> > offspring so they don't have sick kids and wives making all sort of
> > claims on their health benefits.
>
> But they do account for more than 50% of all the AIDS cases in the US
> and that generates hundreds of millions of dollars spent on FREE
> TREATMENT of a disease that is easily prevented from spreading.
Well, most diseases can be prevented, alcoholism, heart disease, lung
cancer, drug addicion and its related diseases, some forms of obesity to
name a few. In Canada a sem cell transplant can cost as much as a half
a million with drugs costing a million dollars a year. This is covered
by the Canadian cancer society along with the various levels of
goverment. In the states wouldn't most people be required to come up
with 1 to 2 million dollars or be denied the treatment?
Aids can't be spread unless you say yes to not wearing a condom or not
requiring your partner to wear a condom when he has sex with you.
> Homosexual males have been the No.1vector of AIDS for more than a
> quarter of a century and show no signs of making any attempt to abate
> the problem.
When society says that 14 to 25 year old men can bring home their
homosexual boyfriends to be welcomed members of the family and are
permitted to get married as they are in Canada, instead of having hide
in the dark for fear of being exposed and losing their job, rental
accommodations and who knows what else then aids can be better tackled.
It is no different than people with overweight problems and their
partners aren't sexually attracted to them anymore and so they keep on
eating, depressed. It is not a simple yes and no answer.
> They have cost the economy billions of dollars simply
> because of their inherent sexual promiscuity.
Promiscuity doesn't cause aids or spread aids per se. You can have sex
only 6 times a year and if you have it with people who are infected or
you infect 6 new people because condoms were used I am not sure you
could be described as promiscuious anymore than heterosexual
one-night-stands.
As you well know in some parts of the states their are prisons full of
heterosexual criminals. But hopefully society doesn't condemn all
heterosexuals because their prisons are full of criminal heterosexuals.
Common sense has to work in all areas.