Sort Your Temperament (go on)
Affinity
http://www.advisorteam.com/temperament_sorter/register.asp?partid=1
I'm a INFP (Healer).
I wonder how many social phobics fall into this category?
Meryl
I know I do not have SP but I have taken this before and after anxiety
disorders.
Before PD I was very much an ESFP with a strong emphasis on E. Last
time I took this (some months ago) I came out as an ENFP. I just made
E.
Meryl
Affinity
>Hi Affinity,
>I know I do not have SP but I have taken this before and after anxiety
>disorders.
>Before PD I was very much an ESFP with a strong emphasis on E. Last
>time I took this (some months ago) I came out as an ENFP. I just made
>E.
G'day,
Ah, from Performer to Champion! :)
I think even before I developed SP I was on the introverted-dreamy side,
despite my hyperactivity and (then) lack of Social Anxiety. I would have
liked to have taken the test pre-SP out of general interest.
Meryl
Yep,
I was a party person but then came Agoraphobia. Now on the rare
occasions I force myself out to social events I do have some fun but I
don't stay long.
Meryl
John Jay
<affinit...@trojanmedia.org> wrote:
I got a different rating format than you. I got NT (Rational). Those
are the middle two letters. It offers the other two letters for a fee.
I've taken other tests where I've tied (50% each) for INTP and INTJ
which are Architects (INTP) and Masterminds (INTJ).
I thought the descrpition of a "rational" was pretty interesting
though.
"Rationals, are the problem solving temperament, particularly if the
problem has to do with the many complex systems that make up the world
around us. Rationals might tackle problems in organic systems such as
plants and animals, or in mechanical systems such as railroads and
computers, or in social systems such as families and companies and
governments. But whatever systems fire their curiosity, Rationals will
analyze them to understand how they work, so they can figure out how
to make them work better.
In working with problems, Rationals try to find solutions that have
application in the real world, but they are even more interested in
the abstract concepts involved, the fundamental principles or natural
laws that underlie the particular case. And they are completely
pragmatic about their ways and means of achieving their ends.
Rationals don't care about being politically correct. They are
interested in the most efficient solutions possible, and will listen
to anyone who has something useful to teach them, while disregarding
any authority or customary procedure that wastes time and resources.
Rationals have an insatiable hunger to accomplish their goals and will
work tirelessly on any project they have set their mind to. They are
rigorously logical and fiercely independent in their thinking--are
indeed skeptical of all ideas, even their own--and they believe they
can overcome any obstacle with their will power. Often they are seen
as cold and distant, but this is really the absorbed concentration
they give to whatever problem they're working on. Whether designing a
skyscraper or an experiment, developing a theory or a prototype
technology, building an aircraft, a corporation, or a strategic
alliance, Rationals value intelligence, in themselves and others, and
they pride themselves on the ingenuity they bring to their problem
solving.
Rationals are very scarce, comprising as little as 5 to 10 percent of
the population. But because of their drive to unlock the secrets of
nature, and to develop new technologies, they have done much to shape
our world."
Affinity
I'm glad you still have some fun when you go to social events. I think
it's important to build on that. Sorry to read you're having a bad time
of late, I sincerely hope things improve for you.
Take care,
Affinity
Affinity
>On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 21:30:11 +1030, Affinity
><affinit...@trojanmedia.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>http://www.advisorteam.com/temperament_sorter/register.asp?partid=1
>>
>>I'm a INFP (Healer).
>>
>>I wonder how many social phobics fall into this category?
>
>
>I got a different rating format than you. I got NT (Rational). Those
>are the middle two letters. It offers the other two letters for a fee.
>I've taken other tests where I've tied (50% each) for INTP and INTJ
>which are Architects (INTP) and Masterminds (INTJ).
Oh shit, I didn't realize they charged a fee as I took this test
elsewhere.
I looked around the web a bit, and it seems the temperament sorter has
now (for the most part) gone commercial. I did find one site, however,
that offers a scaled down version:
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp
I've received an INTP on occasion, but mostly I'm off with the fairies.
Although the tension between approaching problems through either thought
or feeling has always been an issue with me.
But then again, I'm apparently equally left/right brained, with a slight
emphasis on visual-spatial learning.
From what I've read of you here, that seems fitting.
Meryl
<affinit...@trojanmedia.org> wrote:
Thanks Affinity,
All of a sudden, it is looking much more hopeful that there will be
resolution.
Meryl
yitwail
> http://www.advisorteam.com/temperament_sorter/register.asp?partid=1
>
> I'm a INFP (Healer).
>
> I wonder how many social phobics fall into this category?
here's one. didn't go to the url you provided, but took similar
surveys online a couple of times with result INFP each time. i may not
be a "pure" INFP regardless, because these tests force you to pick
yes/no on items that could be maybes. although i'm officially INFP, i
lean towards INTP i think (or should i say i feel?)
john k
Affinity
Affinity
Heh. The first URL I provided leads to a test which only gives a partial
result anyway (you gotta pay for the whole thing--yeah right).
I agree with you on the yes/no questions, they're far too limited (black
& white). But I guess that's the nature of these online tests, you'd
probably have to have a detailed assessment in RL with a trained
'expert' to get more than a superficial result
Meryl
Many moons ago I gave a version of this Myer-Briggs test to
colleagues. It was a modified version but most found it came out as
pretty close to how they saw themselves. I have a whole booklet of
information of the interpretation of the results somewhere.
At that stage, the test was mainly used in the workplace. It was
believed that in order to function effectively an organisation needed
a variety of personality types. Identifying one's type and sharing
one's skills helped others to see how we could work together.
Meryl
MrUK4U
already taken part in doing so damn many of those...; and, most times, I tend
to think it's a complete waste of time...in that, after having already done the
test...and, studied the end results...I still feel totally uncertain about who
I am or not?! Or, even if I did answer any of the questions properly or not?!
Nevertheless, I decided if so MANY people before me, already, seem to have gone
and tried it...; then, hell, why not me, as well?! (Meaning they can't all be
total sukkers, surely?!)
-(Maybe, it's just a part of human nature to 'want' to join in with being a
part of all the rest of the group...; even if one is SP/Social Phobic...; and,
all of our socialising therefore is being done wholly anonymously.../and,
communicating long distance over the internet!/LOL)-
Yes, I can see what the previous posters were talking about, now...when they
said...the Yes/No questions...leave absolutely no room for, maybe's/or,
sometimes!!!
To give you 2 examples...
>>>
You feel at ease in a crowd
YES NO
<<<
Yes, there are days when I just don't wish to be alone, anymore. And, so I
decided to go out, and, be a part of the crowd, maybe, inside of a park.../or,
in a museum/gallery.../or, even sitting on a bus full of people.../or, walking
with people when say rush hour comes along. But, I only so long as I can feel
both safe/anonymous. I don't generally like to feel I stick out in a crowd...;
but, rather like the feeling of quietly 'fitting in'.
No, I hate it being a part of a crowd that either chooses to go single me
out.../or else, that I think are, quite rudely, staring at me! Then, I just
wish to go run away as fast as possible, and, hide myself from being caught up
in all crowds for, quite simply, forevermore(agoraphobia-which I have suffered
from, twice, in my lifetime)!!!
>>>
The more people you speak to, the better you feel
YES NO
<<<
Well, YES, on some days...I do, in fact, feel far better the 'more' people who
I've spoken to...I see it as the more people I can get to talk with-then, the
more self-confident I will become, in future...especially, when I'm feeling in
an outgoing extroverted -(or else, manic)- mood(which is rather rare!).
And, NO, on most days -(either depression/indifference/or, highly negative
self-conciousness seems to have set in)-...then, I'd much prefer to keep myself
to myself...; and, hope than nobody else around me notices me(I pray?!). If
anybody comes up to talk with me...I will do my very best to keep the
conversation as short as possible...will make any excuse just so that I can
escape!
...Which made me feel that 'none' of my Yes/No answers which I gave were, in
fact, absolute. Because, whereas when being faced with one particular 'social'
situation...I would, of course, quite definitely have answered, yes.../but,
when faced with another type of 'social' situation...I would have answered,
most definitely, no...to the very same sort of question?!
Anyway, my final description was...similiar to the 1st poster...
>>>
INFP(Healer)
Introverted: 89%
Intuitive: 11%
Feeling: 44%
Perceiving: 67%
You are:
- very expressed introvert
- slightly expressed intuitive personality
- moderately expressed feeling personality
- distinctively expressed percieving personality
<<<
...whatever the hell any/or, all of that means???!!!
As usual, whenever I've finished completing taking these tests...; I, quite
honestly, feel I do know myself no more now, than, ever I did before?! And,
also, I keep on wondering to myself if I'd answered the questions correctly,
or, not?!
Yet, I'm sure, my desire to go take tests will strike, again, one day soon. All
in the vain and forlorn hope that I will be able to go find out more about my
utterly 'unknowable' self?! To me, everybody is just a wide mixture of things,
anyway...; nobody is, truly, black or white...; that is apart from
God/Devil...(if these exist?!)...; but, then, again...that's only because they
aren't 'human' like the rest of us are!
Here's some more links about the above INFP (Healer) result...
>>>
Portrait of the Healer (iNFp)
http://keirsey.com/personality/nfip.html
Healer Idealists are abstract in thought and speech, cooperative in striving
for their ends, and informative and introverted in their interpersonal
relations. Healer present a seemingly tranquil, and noticiably pleasant face to
the world, and though to all appearances they might seem reserved, and even
shy, on the inside they are anything but reserved, having a capacity for caring
not always found in other types. They care deeply-indeed, passionately-about a
few special persons or a favorite cause, and their fervent aim is to bring
peace and integrity to their loved ones and the world.
Healers have a profound sense of idealism derived from a strong personal
morality, and they conceive of the world as an ethical, honorable place.
Indeed, to understand Healers, we must understand their idealism as almost
boundless and selfless, inspiring them to make extraordinary sacrifices for
someone or something they believe in. The Healer is the Prince or Princess of
fairytale, the King's Champion or Defender of the Faith, like Sir Galahad or
Joan of Arc. Healers are found in only 1 percent of the general population,
although, at times, their idealism leaves them feeling even more isolated from
the rest of humanity.
Healers seek unity in their lives, unity of body and mind, emotions and
intellect, perhaps because they are likely to have a sense of inner division
threaded through their lives, which comes from their often unhappy childhood.
Healers live a fantasy-filled childhood, which, unfortunately, is discouraged
or even punished by many parents. In a practical-minded family, required by
their parents to be sociable and industrious in concrete ways, and also given
down-to-earth siblings who conform to these parental expectations, Healers come
to see themselves as ugly ducklings. Other types usually shrug off parental
expectations that do not fit them, but not the Healers. Wishing to please their
parents and siblings, but not knowing quite how to do it, they try to hide
their differences, believing they are bad to be so fanciful, so unlike their
more solid brothers and sisters. They wonder, some of them for the rest of
their lives, whether they are OK. They are quite OK, just different from the
rest of their family-swans reared in a family of ducks. Even so, to realize and
really believe this is not easy for them. Deeply committed to the positive and
the good, yet taught to believe there is evil in them, Healers can come to
develop a certain fascination with the problem of good and evil, sacred and
profane. Tutors are drawn toward purity, but can become engrossed with the
profane, continuously on the lookout for the wickedness that lurks within them.
Then, when Healers believe thay have yielded to an impure temptation, they may
be given to acts of self-sacrifice in atonement. Others seldom detect this
inner turmoil, however, for the struggle between good and evil is within the
Healer, who does not feel compelled to make the issue public.
<<<
Funny, though...; through having read the previous posts...; I, quite
seriously, thought I was gonna come out being a Rational?!/LOL
The other link on INFP Profile...(text which I didn't bother to include here
is...
>>>
http://typelogic.com/infp.html
<<<
...It says there amongst famous INFP's -(most of whom I deleted from the long
list)- there is...
>>>
Famous INFPs:
Homer
Virgil
Mary, mother of Jesus
William Shakespeare, bard of Avon
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow (Evangeline)
A. A. Milne (Winnie the Pooh)
Laura Ingalls Wilder (Little House on the Prairie)
Helen Keller, deaf and blind author
Carl Rogers, reflective psychologist, counselor
Neil Diamond, vocalist
Julia Roberts, actor (Conspiracy Theory, Pretty Woman)
Fred Savage ("The Wonder Years")
Fictional INFPs:
Anne (Anne of Green Gables))
Doctor Julian Bashir (Star Trek: Deep Space 9)
E.T.: the ExtraTerrestrial
<<<
Dare I say it, I'm delighted to be in amongst such highly illustrious
company!/LOL
-And, thanks for passing on the test...; it's a GREAT way of getting to pass
time...especially, when one is having those extremely BORED -(and, with nothing
else that one can think of that is far better to go do???)- moments!
-Bye4now!/And, have a NICE day!/;-)
>>>
Subject: Sort Your Temperament (go on)
From: Affinity affinit...@trojanmedia.org
Date: 05/02/04 11:00 GMT Standard Time
Message-id: <f98420dd7869osni9...@4ax.com>
yitwail
//SNIPPED//
>
> Yes, I can see what the previous posters were talking about, now...when they
> said...the Yes/No questions...leave absolutely no room for, maybe's/or,
> sometimes!!!
>
not only that, but i just remembered that you're supposed to answer
such questions instantly without analyzing, if memory serves, which
makes it even more plausible that the result won't describe you very
accurately.
>
> -And, thanks for passing on the test...; it's a GREAT way of getting to pass
> time...especially, when one is having those extremely BORED -(and, with nothing
> else that one can think of that is far better to go do???)- moments!
>
> -Bye4now!/And, have a NICE day!/;-)
ditto to all that. here's hopin everybody had a nice v-day.
john k