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randall
May 31, 2012, 3:37:24 PM5/31/12
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What if albert ellis was not breast fed by his mom?
And he had severe ugly psoriasis SKIN?
Not sebopsoriasis or atopic dermatitis for this thread, btw. <g>
And then...
What would albert ellis do if hitler TOLD him to NOT eat MEAT?
Or he had to EAT it and beat it...michael jackson 1/2 of that.. LOL
And it's hitler healthCARE!
Or obama for that matter?
easy preezy!
LIKE...Bifidum dum dum want gum gum or just be dumb?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CANuEXRPq2Q
On the other HaM, Albert is his OWN man....it aPPears...
All HaiL... albert!
Sig ALBERT!
But, but, but Albert would not become a Hitler, titular or udderwise?
As i'm only the Czar of Health by self proclamations? LoL
randall the titular head of psor health and human health via his
microbiota you oughta via sweet whey!
Hey.. ! it's got the RinG to it...
Well it does make me FEEL like obama LIGHT... and that isn't HALF
BAD? LOL
OK back to AE and thanking BB once more on this find!
Albert Ellis's Hitler Remark at the 1996 ACA Word Conference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDl9x6iUqeU
<time: 7:21>
Jeffrey T. Guterman, Ph.D. discusses Albert Ellis's Hitler remark at
the American Counseling Association's 1996 World Conference. The
remark was made during the workshop, "Ethical Issues in the Postmodern
Era" held on April 22, 1996. Guterman reads an excerpt from the
Preface of his book, Mastering the Art of Solution-Focused Counseling
which chronicles the workshop. He then plays an audio excerpt from the
workshop of Ellis's Hitler remark. Ellis's remark was in response to
the following Yakima Nation proverb that was previously cited by Allen
E. Ivey at the workshop:
Progression from childhood to maturity
is the work of the young.
But it requires the guidance and support
of the family and society.
Education of each boy and girl is the
gradual revelation of a culture.
When thoughts and actions become
one with culture,
maturity is the result and respect is
the reward.
This is the transcript of Ellis's Hitler remark:
The only thing I was puzzled about was Allen had a, up on the screen
there, "When thoughts and actions become one with culture, maturity is
the result and respect is the reward." Now the problem is, as Jeff
said originally, it's our interpretations of these things. And one
interpretation occurred to me immediately. Well, that's great. But
then the other one is Hitlerism! Hitler was a culture and
consequently... [interrupted by applause]. And you have to watch it!
And I listened to all the speakers, including even Jeff, and my
general conclusion is we all are much closer together then would seem
on the surface and the reason it doesn't seem that we are is that what
might be called individualism rears its ugly head. Now, I'm an
individualist, and I don't want to throw out individualism. I want to
take on social responsibility without throwing out individualism
which, among other things, I think is one of the biosocial aspects of
humans. But as soon as you become individualistic, you tend to lose
sight of the relativistic and the postmodern and the scientific
aspects of things because science is not really individualistic, it's
collective. It puts up an individual hypothesis usually by
individuals, some brilliant individuals, but then it collectively
explores it and it requires some kind of evidence in an ultimate
sense, not to prove the point, but at least to disprove it as Karl
Popper has said. But postmodernism is also very anti-individualistic,
but very flexible, and therefore it overlaps with science. They're
both collective in many respects. They both are flexible. And then
underneath the surface, they both have individualistic elements
because I don't think you can get rid of that, but they sort of tame
it down and allow us individuals to live happily together in some kind
of relationship and collective society
<snip>
Albert Ellis Doing REBT with Jeffrey Guterman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9tj8p5TfgI
<time: 7:45>
Telephonic session held March 8, 1986 demonstrating Albert Ellis
identifying ABC's of rational emotive behavior therapy (REBT) and
disputing irrational beliefs. When this session was held, Jeffrey
Guterman was a masters student in counseling and a follower of REBT.
He later became a supervisee, colleague, and friend of Albert Ellis.
In the 1990s, Guterman shifted to a solution-focused approach and
developed his own model called solution-focused counseling; see
http://www.jeffreyguterman.com. Here is a transcript from this
session:
Ellis: Right. But what are you depressed about?
Guterman: Well, a series of events.
Ellis: Yeah.
Guterman: One was I took my car in and I found out I had to, uh, spend
over $600.
Ellis: Alright, so that's unfortunate, but what are you telling
yourself? That it's horrible? Or what?
Guterman: Yeah. Pretty much so.
Ellis: Right. But you better go back to, "It's a royal pain in the
ass, but I could live with it!."
Guterman: Well...
Ellis: Because you can.
Guterman: Huh?
Ellis: Because you can.
<snip>
Guterman or someone has Ellis on a SELF Gratification youtube.
I figured since BB is so virginal LIKE it might not be good for his
psyche?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cupid_and_Psyche#Legend
And if he finds a mirror.... yikes... LOL
He may become:
KokoPelli man?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kokopelli
And if it be myth then don't eat the FISH...as they be only a symbol?
And..
They smell fishy over time if you hadn't noticed.
And bob parks is going the HATE filled taco whey today:
not sweet!
WHY can't these religuLUST folks find freedom of religion in america
from pride filled ignorant rectum holes?
Cause osama obama bin dumbo says you must be a SMART marxist like him?
Or it's MY religion or the highway!
Or low way perchance if your not for their dance!
Or like BOB..parking the car of obama? LOL
And BC whose more like Koko man then obama dim laden double tap rap
rap pit pat on the jib jaP:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/BigKokoCV.jpg
No individualism here, like what albert ellis taught?
But wait... we have it in OUtER SPACE... obama is for outer space
capitalism?
http://www.bobpark.org/
Wednesday, May 30, 2012
1. NATURAL LAW: CATHOLIC INSTITUTIONS SUE THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.
The lawsuit argues that the Obama healthcare plan violates the
religious freedom of Catholic institutions by requiring them to cover
the contraception costs of employees. In the eyes of the Church,
artificial contraception violates the doctrine of Natural Law. If
sexual intercourse cannot lead to procreation it removes the
sovereignty of God over Creation. Try thinking that through while
having sex. What are the odds of the Church winning its suit? The
Church hasn't won a case based on Natural Law since 615 when the
Inquisition forced Galileo to recant his belief in a heliocentric
universe.
2. SPACE X: SPACE TRANSPORT COMPANY DELIVERED NO ONE TO THE ISS.
Founded in 2002 by PayPal entrepreneur Elon Musk, Space X last Friday
became the first private company to dock on the International Space
Station. Presidential science adviser John Holdren called it, "an
achievement of historic scientific and technological significance" and
"a key milepost in President Obamas vision for Americas continued
leadership in space." The cargo capsule, Dragon, delivered groceries
and collected the ISS garbage, but carried no people. That is indeed a
big improvment over the Shuttle.
3. EXTREMES: "TO THE LAST BREATH" BY FRANCIS SLAKEY.
Everest is closed. The climbing season normally runs from late March
to the first week in June, but 2012 was a deadly year on the mountain,
with several deaths and "traffic jams" due to the large number of
climbers. Why? People are driven to test themselves. But having
reached the summit of the tallest mountain, what do you do next? If
you're Francis Slakey, PhD, associate director of the Washington
Office of Public Affairs of the American Physical Society, who reached
the Everest summit on 24 May 2000 at 10:51 AM, you make a To-Do-List:
The tallest peak on each of the seven continents. The final climb took
place in September of 2002 on the highest mountain in Indonesia, where
an unrelated power struggle took the life of an innocent climber in
front of him. Nature is not cruel, only indifferent. Cruelty comes
from the struggle for power. Years earlier Slake had requested a leave
of absence to go climbing, "Sure, I said, do it now. Once you have a
family it will no longer be possible." "That's not the path I'm on he
replied." I left the APS office several years ago to return to my full-
time position as professor of physics at the University of Maryland.
Francis Slakey was changing, but he's was still not ready to give up
the To-Do-List; after all, 69 other climbers have done the seven
continent tour. Why not add a third category: "surf in every ocean?"
The To-Do-List began to look a little silly. No matter, the real story
is that Francis Slakey discovered himself. He married Gina, an Italian
girl he met climbing. They bought a house in Washington, where they
are raising twin daughters. He still works for the American Physical
Society and teaches at Georgetown University.
<sniP>
Some of my friends ask why i like to post BOb Parks stuff.
Easy preezy... he's got the same attitude as a dude with his pride up
his yin yang? LOL
And since psoriasis people play hide the pride of their psor plaques
its ugly, bob otoh is quite obvious with his PrETTY high IQ levels!
You can BE really smart and still be a snot, iow's. LOL
I should KNOW more on that then any stupidly person who weeds this...
LOL
<randall note: hitler served meat to his guests i guess from what i've
read>
did that make him disputable?
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
While i KNOCKED down my Posriasis by 30% PASi with n6 deprivation
which remodulated the ratio of n3:n6 (omega-3 : omega-6 lipids) to a
less inflammatory profile... you can EXERCISE..it DOWN...
If your a CHICK!
<randall note: 3/4's of all psoriatics are women we're told>
<more on notes/links below: see exercise story below saying it's BAD
for some folks... it's true but they haven't the slightest idea why,
yet... LOL>
Kewl!
Shake it baby!
Will it make them tired in bed?
You mean sexxxx performance sufferance?
What about the udder one?
you mean
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_suffrage
We ask moooooooooooooooooooochele? She would know!
Then what?
Psycho therapist Albert Ellis said you need to do the self
gratification thingy? While he worked 16 hour days?
<see below youtube of ellis on the war on Masturbation>
http://health.usnews.com/health-news/news/articles/2012/05/21/vigorous-exercise-might-keep-psoriasis-at-bay
Vigorous Exercise Might Keep Psoriasis at Bay
But only intense activities seemed to lower risk in large study of
women
May 21, 2012
By Steven Reinberg
HealthDay Reporter
MONDAY, May 21 (HealthDay News) -- Women who exercise vigorously may
be reducing their risk of psoriasis, Harvard University researchers
report.
Psoriasis is an immune disorder that causes inflammation and scaly
patches on the skin.
Vigorous activity for up to three hours a week can potentially reduce
the risk by 25 percent to 30 percent, the researchers said.
"Exercise is a modifiable risk factor. Here is another reason to
change lifestyle and exercise," said lead researcher Dr. Abrar
Qureshi, vice chairman of the department of dermatology at Brigham and
Women's Hospital, in Boston.
"Most interesting was our finding that intensity of exercise was
linked to psoriasis risk, where less vigorous physical activity such
as walking was not associated with a lower risk for new-onset
psoriasis," he said.
The report was published in the May 21 online edition of the Archives
of Dermatology.
For the study, Qureshi's team collected data on nearly 867,000 women
who took part in the U.S. Nurses' Health Study II. Among these women,
1,026 had psoriasis.
The most physically active women had a significantly lower risk of
psoriasis, compared to women who exercised the least, the researchers
found.
However, only activities such as running, aerobic exercise or
calisthenics were linked to a reduced risk of the condition, they
added.
Other activities such as jogging, playing tennis, swimming and
bicycling were not associated with psoriasis risk, they said.
"The highly variable intensity at which these activities are performed
may account for this finding," the researchers wrote.
Why exercise is tied to a lower risk of psoriasis isn't known for
sure, said the researchers, who found an association but not a cause-
and-effect relationship between exercise and the skin disorder.
"The plausible mechanisms behind these findings are several," Qureshi
said. "For example, physical activity may lower systemic
inflammation."
Exercise has also been associated with reducing the risk of other
diseases associated with inflammation, including type 2 diabetes,
colon cancer, coronary artery disease and breast cancer, the
researchers noted.
There are limitations to the study, Qureshi said.
"It is possible that women who engaged in vigorous exercise live
healthy lives in general and other factors associated with healthy
living may actually be associated with lowered psoriasis risk," he
said.
To address this concern, the researchers adjusted for known psoriasis
risk factors andthe association remained statistically significant,
Qureshi said.
Dr. Lawrence Green, a spokesman for the National Psoriasis Foundation,
commented that "this study certainly adds on to recent research over
the past several years about risk factors for more severe psoriasis
and ways an individual with psoriasis can help manage their disease in
addition to dermatologist-prescribed treatment."
This study adds to the accumulated body of evidence that "how we live
our lives can play a role in how bad our psoriasis can become," he
said.
"We have recently become aware that smoking, high alcohol intake and
obesity can worsen psoriasis. Now, we have a study that shows that
vigorous exercise can play a role in helping to mitigate psoriasis,"
Green said.
Another expert, Dr. Robert Kirsner, chief of dermatology at the
University of Miami Miller School of Medicine, added that "exercise
allows patients who may be at risk for psoriasis because of family
history the ability to do something to hopefully reduce that risk or
delay the start of the psoriasis."
In addition to reducing inflammation, exercise might also reduce
stress and depression, which are also associated with psoriasis, he
said.
"We finally have something that a patient can do to help reduce their
risk of developing psoriasis," Kirsner said.
More information
For more about psoriasis, visit the National Psoriasis Foundation.
http://www.psoriasis.org/
==========================
But some folks can't handle exercise we're told today?
Some people shouldn't exercise?
Why?
They DON'T know yet!
What about sexercise?
I don't know.. will check albert Ellis NEXT.. his bi-polar mom ...
nevermind... LOL
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/30/can-exercise-be-bad-for-you/?hp
For Some, Exercise May Increase Heart Risk
FITNESS | By GINA KOLATA May 30, 2012
Could exercise actually be bad for some healthy people? A well-known
group of researchers, including one who helped write the scientific
paper justifying national guidelines that promote exercise for all,
say the answer may be a qualified yes.
By analyzing data from six rigorous exercise studies involving 1,687
people, the group found that about 10 percent actually got worse on at
least one of the measures related to heart disease: blood pressure and
levels of insulin, HDL cholesterol or triglycerides. About 7 percent
got worse on at least two measures. And the researchers say they do
not know why.
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http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/05/31/us/jp-EXERCISE-2/jp-EXERCISE-2-articleInline.jpg
Claude Bouchard
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“It is bizarre,” said Claude Bouchard, lead author of the paper,
published on Wednesday in the journal PLoS One, and a professor of
genetics and nutrition at the Pennington Biomedical Research Center,
part of the Louisiana State University system.
Dr. Michael Lauer, director of the Division of Cardiovascular Sciences
at the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute, the lead federal
research institute on heart disease and strokes, was among the experts
not involved in the provocative study who applauded it. “It is an
interesting and well-done study,” he said.
Others worried about its consequences.
“There are a lot of people out there looking for any excuse not to
exercise,” said William Haskell, emeritus professor of medicine at the
Stanford Prevention Research Center. “This might be an excuse for them
to say, ‘Oh, I must be one of those 10 percent.’ ”
But counterbalancing the 10 percent who got worse were about the same
proportion who had an exaggeratedly good response on at least one
measure. Others had responses ranging from little or no change up to
big changes, seen in about 10 percent, where risk factor measurements
improved anywhere from 20 percent to 50 percent.
“That should make folks happy,” said Dr. William E. Kraus, a co-author
of the study who is a professor of medicine and director of clinical
research at Duke. He was a member of the committee providing the
scientific overview for the Department of Health and Human Services’
national exercise guidelines, which advise moderate exercise for at
least 150 minutes a week.
The problem with studies of exercise and health, researchers point
out, is that while they often measure things like blood pressure or
insulin levels, they do not follow people long enough to see if
improvements translate into fewer heart attacks or longer lives.
Instead, researchers infer that such changes lead to better outcomes —
something that may or may not be true.
Some critics have noted that there is no indication that those who had
what Dr. Bouchard is calling an adverse response to exercise actually
had more heart attacks or other bad health outcomes. But Dr. Bouchard
said if people wanted to use changes in risk factors to infer that
those who exercise are healthier, they could not then turn around and
say there is no evidence of harm when the risk factor changes go in
the wrong direction.
“You can’t have it both ways,” Dr. Bouchard said.
The national guidelines for exercise are based on such inferences and
also on studies that compared the health of people who exercised with
that of people who did not, a weak form of evidence often said to be
hypothesis-generating rather than proof.
“We do not know whether implementing exercise programs for unfit
people assures better outcomes,” said Dr. Lauer of the heart
institute. “That has not been established.” And so, he said, “there is
a lot of debate over how strong the guidelines should be in light of
weak evidence.”
Authors of the study say people should continue to exercise as before,
but might also consider getting their heart disease risk factors
checked on a regular basis. No intervention, including drugs, works
for everyone, Dr. Kraus said. So it should not be surprising that
exercise does not work for some.
“I am an exercise guy; I believe in exercise for health,” Dr. Kraus
said. “I would rather have everyone exercise. But you can’t ignore the
data.”
Still, he added, even if someone does not get the expected benefit in
some heart risk factors, there are other reasons to exercise: for
mental health and to improve physical functioning.
And while the researchers would like to spare people from adverse
exercise effects, Dr. Bouchard said, “It is not possible yet to make
more specific recommendations because we do not understand why this is
happening.”
Dr. Bouchard stumbled upon the adverse exercise effects when he looked
at data from his own study that examined genetics and responses to
exercise. He noticed that about 8 percent seemed to be getting worse
on at least one measure of heart disease risk. “I thought that was
potentially explosive,” he said.
He then looked for other clinical trials that also examined exercise
under controlled conditions, making sure that participants actually
exercised and did not change their diets, and carefully measuring
heart risk factors and how they changed with an exercise program. He
found five studies in addition to his own. In all the studies, a
proportion of people, about 10 percent, had at least one measurement
of heart disease risk that went in the wrong direction.
Then the researchers asked if there was some way of predicting who
would have an adverse effect.
They found it was not related to how fit the people were at the start
of the study, nor to how much their fitness improved with exercise.
Age had nothing to do with it, nor did race or gender. In some studies
subjects were allowed to take medications to control their blood
pressure or cholesterol levels. In others they were not.
Medication use did not matter. The study subjects exercised at a range
of intensities from very moderate to fairly intense. But intensity of
effort was not related to the likelihood of an untoward effect.
Nothing predicted who would have an adverse response.
Some experts, like Dr. Benjamin Levine, a cardiologist and professor
of exercise sciences at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical
Center, asked whether the adverse responses represented just random
fluctuations in heart risk measures. Would the same proportion of
people who did not exercise also get worse over the same periods of
time? Or what about seasonal variations in things like cholesterol?
Maybe the adverse effects just reflected the time of year when people
entered the study.
But the investigators examined those hypotheses and found that they
did not hold up.
Dr. Kraus said researchers needed to figure out how to tailor exercise
prescriptions to individual needs. For example, people with good
cholesterol and insulin levels but worrisome blood pressure would want
to know if exercise made their blood pressure rise. A rise in blood
pressure would not be compensated by improvements in already good
cholesterol or insulin levels.
Dr. Lauer said that if nothing else, the study pointed out the need to
know more about what exercise actually does. “If we are going to think
of exercise as a therapeutic intervention, like all interventions
there will be adverse effects,” he said.
He said, “There is a price for everything.”
<snip>
Ellis Time.. the 2nd most influential pyscho therapist (i thought it
was 3rd? But NO.. freud is 3rd and moving backwards it apPears) LoL
Albert started REBT:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_Emotive_Behavior_Therapy
Rational emotive behavior therapy (REBT), previously called rational
therapy and rational emotive therapy, is a comprehensive, active-
directive, philosophically and empirically based psychotherapy which
focuses on resolving emotional and behavioral problems and
disturbances and enabling people to lead happier and more fulfilling
lives
<snip>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Ellis#Work_as_sexologist_and_sex_and_love_researcher
ellis [...] In 1958 he published his classic book Sex Without Guilt
which came to be known for its liberal sexual attitudes.
[...] Near the end of his life, he finally updated and re-wrote Sex
Without Guilt in 2001 and released as Sex Without Guilt in the Twenty-
First Century. In this book, he expounded and enhanced his humanistic
view on sexual ethics and morality and dedicated a chapter on
homosexuality to giving homosexuals advice and suggestion on how to
more greatly enjoy and enhance their sexual love lives. While
preserving some of the ideas about human sexuality from the original,
the revision constituted his current humanistic opinions and ethical
ideals.
<snip>
The War on Musturbation (Albert Ellis documentary PREVIEW)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FOA9Sc08Zk
<time: 6:08>
Wow... you must listen to this all the WAY through.
How Ellis looked at socialism through the eyes of guys from Eastern
Europe.
Not much on Masturbation.... Sorry BB you or i will have to watch
this:
[...] "Completed in December 2005, just after Albert Ellis' last
public appearance, this documentary is about the life and opinions of
psychotherapy's most important and influential voice. Directed by
J.G.M. Davi, the film runs about 90 minutes. (The preview is about 6
minutes.)"
<snip>
But BB can find more info on the p ng from guys who controlled their
psor plaques via strenuous exercise of their yKW's... LOL
Let me look for more on ellis?
OK
http://www.intuition.org/txt/ellis.htm
PHILOSOPHY IN PSYCHOTHERAPY with ALBERT ELLIS, Ph.D.
[...] MISHLOVE: You've used the term -- I think you must have coined
it -- "musterbation."
ELLIS: Right. "Masturbation is good and delicious, but musterbation is
evil and pernicious," is one of my sayings.
<sniP>
-----
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_musturbation
What is musturbation?
Answer
Musturbation is a play on the words "must" and "masturbation" coined
by Albert Ellis, the founder of Rational-emotive behavior therapy
(REBT). It refers to the 'should' and 'must' conditions that we place
on ourselves i.e
I must be...
You must be...
The world must be...
<sniP>
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20063890,00.html
March 25, 1974 Vol. 1 No. 4
Dr. Albert Ellis: 'Sex Is the Worst Reason to Marry—or Divorce'
By Sally Moore
In the early 1950s, when Dr. Albert Ellis first began to write about
sex, no one wanted to publish his work, so extreme were his views.
With the publication of Sex Without Guilt in 1958, he moved into the
forefront of the sexual revolution. Today, many of his earlier critics
concede that his blunt, nonmoralistic advice helped to free the
discussion of sex and put it in better perspective. At 60, Ellis is
the author of 30 books, including several bestsellers. He has written
over 200 professional papers, founded institutes for study and
research in a dozen major cities and is in constant demand on the
lecture circuit.
From his home base, The Institute for Rational Living on Manhattan's
East Side, Ellis conducts a flourishing private practice, and oversees
a children's school, workshops and seminars on many aspects of sexual
behavior and theory. There Sally Moore of PEOPLE questioned the still
controversial Dr. Ellis on his views of the sexual revolution—views
which some of his fellow therapists continue to find too free-
wheeling.
What first led you into the field of sex research?
I was a marriage and family counselor and was publishing papers on
subjects like homosexuality and masturbation. Then the people I
counseled began to ask questions, things they were upset and guilty
about, and I began to answer them, both in the sexual and nonsexual
areas.
Are your attitudes a result of your own sexual history?
Yes. I didn't lose my virginity until I was 24 because I felt
inadequate, ashamed and shy. I was certainly very sexually neurotic
then. I don't think I am today.
You used to be a traditional Freudian analyst? Why aren't you any
more?
While I was doing marriage and sex counseling, I took my Ph.D. in
clinical psychology at Columbia—because I thought psychoanalysis was a
deeper method, had deeper answers. But I found that was completely
wrong. It didn't work. Despite the insights and understanding my
patients acquired, they didn't get any better, at least fast enough.
So I began to experiment with other methods.
How do your methods today differ from the Freudians?
The Freudians are deterministic, they believe you got where you are
because of what you did as a child. I think that you can change at any
time, that a person can make himself the way he or she is by the way
he thinks, that a person has many more choices than the Freudians
believe. I encourage people to change their behavior, to force
themselves to try new things.
What are the most common sex problems you see as a counselor?
The same as in nonsexual areas. People starting with perfectionistic
and idealistic goals. People feeling they must be very orgasmic or
sensuous and feeling inferior if they're not.
Can a couple learn to communicate a change in such goals?
They can, but most of them don't. What they have to learn to say to
each other, and it's hard, is that one partner doesn't have to be the
greatest in bed ever and satisfy the other completely all the time.
One should say, "I'd like you to try, but you don't have to be
perfect."
Is sex, in your opinion, one of the major causes for divorce?
No. Just because 80% of the divorce cases have sex problems doesn't
mean they began with one.
What are the major problems?
Personal relations with self and others: hostility, in-laws and money.
Sex is likely to stem from the general problem. People think they
would get along only if their sex lives were good; that's not true.
Many people love each other and don't get along sexually; many people
get along sexually and hate each other.
You've been an advocate of sex outside marriage in many cases, haven't
you?
I advocate what is called open marriage. People should face the fact
that they're not monogamous sexually and have desire for all kinds of
sexual adventures outside the home. I think you can allow this openly
and still have marriage, but it should be on a better basis than we
have now.
When do you advise couples to have extramarital sex?
If one partner wants it—and especially if the mate can take it.
Do you consider it necessary that both partners consent?
It's preferable that way. I believe in what I call "civilized
adultery," rather than hiding and sneaking. That's when you get into
trouble. But no system—complete honesty, lying, or fidelity—works for
all couples all the time.
Aren't extramarital affairs destructive to a marriage and don't they
cause most marriages to break up?
No. They can, but they usually don't. People shouldn't leave each
other for sexual infidelity—that's crazy. They usually have much more
in common together than estranged. Extramarital sex is only
destructive to a marriage when the people involved really don't like
each other and aren't having good sex. They stay together to maintain
a poor marriage and don't have the guts to make a break. Then the
children suffer, because they're living with anger and jealousy.
You've said that you had two wives, a couple of long-term paramours
and a number of casual bed-mates. Did you practice open marriage with
your wives?
My first marriage was very short: after it was annulled we lived
together, and she had relationships outside. With my second wife, we
were faithful for a few years, and then she had extramarital affairs
at the end.
Did that upset you?
It did at first, but then I thought, Hell, I believe in this kind of
thing anyway. So we talked about it, and I said, "OK dear."
Do you think there would be fewer divorces if people lived together
first?
Yes. People should live together at least a year whenever possible to
see if they have the same values, including sex values.
What's the basis for a good marriage? Is sex a reason to marry?
No. Sex is the worst reason to marry—or to divorce. The main thing is
that both people have a convergence of values, of beliefs that they
share.
Are men getting more liberated and do you approve?
I'd say they're getting less fascistic. More liberal and tolerant
toward their wives, more interested and helpful with their children.
And they should.
Why are so many women unhappy in their current marriages?
Women married originally because they were taught that they had to be
married to gain status. They got status and sometimes even security.
They found that what they really wanted was to be individuals and
marriage didn't include that.
Are women learning more to accept sex for sex's sake?
Some are; probably most are not. Most women who have affairs outside
marriage usually don't have them for sex but for love. Men are more
prone to have affairs for sex. It's insane to think women don't have
sex desires like their mates. But women are raised to need a greater
reason; they need to tie sex up with an emotional relationship.
Dr. Ellis, you have been accused by some of your colleagues of having
sexual relations with patients. Is that true?
In a few cases. A lot of my female clients have proposed affairs. Even
though I was attracted to them, I told them it was unethical without
two conditions: that the patient was cured (not quit) and that a year
had passed after therapy was finished. If we had a sexual
relationship, it could only be on that basis. Virtually none of the
ladies called back.
What do you think of group sex and group marriage?
It's OK occasionally, but I don't think many people will get addicted
to it. Group sex is sort of low-level sex satisfaction without
relating, without the emotional elements. Group marriage will only
work for a few people, not because it's hard to get attracted sexually
to, say, four people, but because it's so difficult to get emotionally
attached to even one person.
What sexual trends do you see for the next ten years?
More people will live together without legally marrying; there will be
a little more homosexuality, gradually more adultery and much more
acceptance of it.
<sniP>
Wow.. what happens when you get OLD like Albert at 95 in that one
dvd?
Does he still work or enjoy life or both or or or... er er er?
What are his Endoplasmic Reticulum's doing in the old mitochondrial?
I have 95 year old friend's who are pretty sharp... but albert looks
great.
Does he smell?
OK... look for my old person smell thread... soon.
randall... having a ball thanks to BB...
What if albert ellis was not breast fed by his mom?
And he had severe ugly psoriasis SKIN?
Not sebopsoriasis or atopic dermatitis for this thread, btw. <g>
And then...
What would albert ellis do if hitler TOLD him to NOT eat MEAT?
Or he had to EAT it and beat it...michael jackson 1/2 of that.. LOL
And it's hitler healthCARE!
Or obama for that matter?
easy preezy!
LIKE...Bifidum dum dum want gum gum or just be dumb?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CANuEXRPq2Q
On the other HaM, Albert is his OWN man....it aPPears...
All HaiL... albert!
Sig ALBERT!
But, but, but Albert would not become a Hitler, titular or udderwise?
As i'm only the Czar of Health by self proclamations? LoL
randall the titular head of psor health and human health via his
microbiota you oughta via sweet whey!
Hey.. ! it's got the RinG to it...
Well it does make me FEEL like obama LIGHT... and that isn't HALF
BAD? LOL
OK back to AE and thanking BB once more on this find!
Albert Ellis's Hitler Remark at the 1996 ACA Word Conference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDl9x6iUqeU
<time: 7:21>
Jeffrey T. Guterman, Ph.D. discusses Albert Ellis's Hitler remark at
the American Counseling Association's 1996 World Conference. The
remark was made during the workshop, "Ethical Issues in the Postmodern
Era" held on April 22, 1996. Guterman reads an excerpt from the
Preface of his book, Mastering the Art of Solution-Focused Counseling
which chronicles the workshop. He then plays an audio excerpt from the
workshop of Ellis's Hitler remark. Ellis's remark was in response to
the following Yakima Nation proverb that was previously cited by Allen
E. Ivey at the workshop:
Progression from childhood to maturity
is the work of the young.
But it requires the guidance and support
of the family and society.
Education of each boy and girl is the
gradual revelation of a culture.
When thoughts and actions become
one with culture,
maturity is the result and respect is
the reward.
This is the transcript of Ellis's Hitler remark:
The only thing I was puzzled about was Allen had a, up on the screen
there, "When thoughts and actions become one with culture, maturity is
the result and respect is the reward." Now the problem is, as Jeff
said originally, it's our interpretations of these things. And one
interpretation occurred to me immediately. Well, that's great. But
then the other one is Hitlerism! Hitler was a culture and
consequently... [interrupted by applause]. And you have to watch it!
And I listened to all the speakers, including even Jeff, and my
general conclusion is we all are much closer together then would seem
on the surface and the reason it doesn't seem that we are is that what
might be called individualism rears its ugly head. Now, I'm an
individualist, and I don't want to throw out individualism. I want to
take on social responsibility without throwing out individualism
which, among other things, I think is one of the biosocial aspects of
humans. But as soon as you become individualistic, you tend to lose
sight of the relativistic and the postmodern and the scientific
aspects of things because science is not really individualistic, it's
collective. It puts up an individual hypothesis usually by
individuals, some brilliant individuals, but then it collectively
explores it and it requires some kind of evidence in an ultimate
sense, not to prove the point, but at least to disprove it as Karl
Popper has said. But postmodernism is also very anti-individualistic,
but very flexible, and therefore it overlaps with science. They're
both collective in many respects. They both are flexible. And then
underneath the surface, they both have individualistic elements
because I don't think you can get rid of that, but they sort of tame
it down and allow us individuals to live happily together in some kind
of relationship and collective society
<snip>
Albert Ellis Doing REBT with Jeffrey Guterman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9tj8p5TfgI
<time: 7:45>
Telephonic session held March 8, 1986 demonstrating Albert Ellis
identifying ABC's of rational emotive behavior therapy (REBT) and
disputing irrational beliefs. When this session was held, Jeffrey
Guterman was a masters student in counseling and a follower of REBT.
He later became a supervisee, colleague, and friend of Albert Ellis.
In the 1990s, Guterman shifted to a solution-focused approach and
developed his own model called solution-focused counseling; see
http://www.jeffreyguterman.com. Here is a transcript from this
session:
Ellis: Right. But what are you depressed about?
Guterman: Well, a series of events.
Ellis: Yeah.
Guterman: One was I took my car in and I found out I had to, uh, spend
over $600.
Ellis: Alright, so that's unfortunate, but what are you telling
yourself? That it's horrible? Or what?
Guterman: Yeah. Pretty much so.
Ellis: Right. But you better go back to, "It's a royal pain in the
ass, but I could live with it!."
Guterman: Well...
Ellis: Because you can.
Guterman: Huh?
Ellis: Because you can.
<snip>
Guterman or someone has Ellis on a SELF Gratification youtube.
I figured since BB is so virginal LIKE it might not be good for his
psyche?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cupid_and_Psyche#Legend
And if he finds a mirror.... yikes... LOL
He may become:
KokoPelli man?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kokopelli
And if it be myth then don't eat the FISH...as they be only a symbol?
And..
They smell fishy over time if you hadn't noticed.
And bob parks is going the HATE filled taco whey today:
not sweet!
WHY can't these religuLUST folks find freedom of religion in america
from pride filled ignorant rectum holes?
Cause osama obama bin dumbo says you must be a SMART marxist like him?
Or it's MY religion or the highway!
Or low way perchance if your not for their dance!
Or like BOB..parking the car of obama? LOL
And BC whose more like Koko man then obama dim laden double tap rap
rap pit pat on the jib jaP:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/BigKokoCV.jpg
No individualism here, like what albert ellis taught?
But wait... we have it in OUtER SPACE... obama is for outer space
capitalism?
http://www.bobpark.org/
Wednesday, May 30, 2012
1. NATURAL LAW: CATHOLIC INSTITUTIONS SUE THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.
The lawsuit argues that the Obama healthcare plan violates the
religious freedom of Catholic institutions by requiring them to cover
the contraception costs of employees. In the eyes of the Church,
artificial contraception violates the doctrine of Natural Law. If
sexual intercourse cannot lead to procreation it removes the
sovereignty of God over Creation. Try thinking that through while
having sex. What are the odds of the Church winning its suit? The
Church hasn't won a case based on Natural Law since 615 when the
Inquisition forced Galileo to recant his belief in a heliocentric
universe.
2. SPACE X: SPACE TRANSPORT COMPANY DELIVERED NO ONE TO THE ISS.
Founded in 2002 by PayPal entrepreneur Elon Musk, Space X last Friday
became the first private company to dock on the International Space
Station. Presidential science adviser John Holdren called it, "an
achievement of historic scientific and technological significance" and
"a key milepost in President Obamas vision for Americas continued
leadership in space." The cargo capsule, Dragon, delivered groceries
and collected the ISS garbage, but carried no people. That is indeed a
big improvment over the Shuttle.
3. EXTREMES: "TO THE LAST BREATH" BY FRANCIS SLAKEY.
Everest is closed. The climbing season normally runs from late March
to the first week in June, but 2012 was a deadly year on the mountain,
with several deaths and "traffic jams" due to the large number of
climbers. Why? People are driven to test themselves. But having
reached the summit of the tallest mountain, what do you do next? If
you're Francis Slakey, PhD, associate director of the Washington
Office of Public Affairs of the American Physical Society, who reached
the Everest summit on 24 May 2000 at 10:51 AM, you make a To-Do-List:
The tallest peak on each of the seven continents. The final climb took
place in September of 2002 on the highest mountain in Indonesia, where
an unrelated power struggle took the life of an innocent climber in
front of him. Nature is not cruel, only indifferent. Cruelty comes
from the struggle for power. Years earlier Slake had requested a leave
of absence to go climbing, "Sure, I said, do it now. Once you have a
family it will no longer be possible." "That's not the path I'm on he
replied." I left the APS office several years ago to return to my full-
time position as professor of physics at the University of Maryland.
Francis Slakey was changing, but he's was still not ready to give up
the To-Do-List; after all, 69 other climbers have done the seven
continent tour. Why not add a third category: "surf in every ocean?"
The To-Do-List began to look a little silly. No matter, the real story
is that Francis Slakey discovered himself. He married Gina, an Italian
girl he met climbing. They bought a house in Washington, where they
are raising twin daughters. He still works for the American Physical
Society and teaches at Georgetown University.
<sniP>
Some of my friends ask why i like to post BOb Parks stuff.
Easy preezy... he's got the same attitude as a dude with his pride up
his yin yang? LOL
And since psoriasis people play hide the pride of their psor plaques
its ugly, bob otoh is quite obvious with his PrETTY high IQ levels!
You can BE really smart and still be a snot, iow's. LOL
I should KNOW more on that then any stupidly person who weeds this...
LOL
<randall note: hitler served meat to his guests i guess from what i've
read>
did that make him disputable?
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
While i KNOCKED down my Posriasis by 30% PASi with n6 deprivation
which remodulated the ratio of n3:n6 (omega-3 : omega-6 lipids) to a
less inflammatory profile... you can EXERCISE..it DOWN...
If your a CHICK!
<randall note: 3/4's of all psoriatics are women we're told>
<more on notes/links below: see exercise story below saying it's BAD
for some folks... it's true but they haven't the slightest idea why,
yet... LOL>
Kewl!
Shake it baby!
Will it make them tired in bed?
You mean sexxxx performance sufferance?
What about the udder one?
you mean
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_suffrage
We ask moooooooooooooooooooochele? She would know!
Then what?
Psycho therapist Albert Ellis said you need to do the self
gratification thingy? While he worked 16 hour days?
<see below youtube of ellis on the war on Masturbation>
http://health.usnews.com/health-news/news/articles/2012/05/21/vigorous-exercise-might-keep-psoriasis-at-bay
Vigorous Exercise Might Keep Psoriasis at Bay
But only intense activities seemed to lower risk in large study of
women
May 21, 2012
By Steven Reinberg
HealthDay Reporter
MONDAY, May 21 (HealthDay News) -- Women who exercise vigorously may
be reducing their risk of psoriasis, Harvard University researchers
report.
Psoriasis is an immune disorder that causes inflammation and scaly
patches on the skin.
Vigorous activity for up to three hours a week can potentially reduce
the risk by 25 percent to 30 percent, the researchers said.
"Exercise is a modifiable risk factor. Here is another reason to
change lifestyle and exercise," said lead researcher Dr. Abrar
Qureshi, vice chairman of the department of dermatology at Brigham and
Women's Hospital, in Boston.
"Most interesting was our finding that intensity of exercise was
linked to psoriasis risk, where less vigorous physical activity such
as walking was not associated with a lower risk for new-onset
psoriasis," he said.
The report was published in the May 21 online edition of the Archives
of Dermatology.
For the study, Qureshi's team collected data on nearly 867,000 women
who took part in the U.S. Nurses' Health Study II. Among these women,
1,026 had psoriasis.
The most physically active women had a significantly lower risk of
psoriasis, compared to women who exercised the least, the researchers
found.
However, only activities such as running, aerobic exercise or
calisthenics were linked to a reduced risk of the condition, they
added.
Other activities such as jogging, playing tennis, swimming and
bicycling were not associated with psoriasis risk, they said.
"The highly variable intensity at which these activities are performed
may account for this finding," the researchers wrote.
Why exercise is tied to a lower risk of psoriasis isn't known for
sure, said the researchers, who found an association but not a cause-
and-effect relationship between exercise and the skin disorder.
"The plausible mechanisms behind these findings are several," Qureshi
said. "For example, physical activity may lower systemic
inflammation."
Exercise has also been associated with reducing the risk of other
diseases associated with inflammation, including type 2 diabetes,
colon cancer, coronary artery disease and breast cancer, the
researchers noted.
There are limitations to the study, Qureshi said.
"It is possible that women who engaged in vigorous exercise live
healthy lives in general and other factors associated with healthy
living may actually be associated with lowered psoriasis risk," he
said.
To address this concern, the researchers adjusted for known psoriasis
risk factors andthe association remained statistically significant,
Qureshi said.
Dr. Lawrence Green, a spokesman for the National Psoriasis Foundation,
commented that "this study certainly adds on to recent research over
the past several years about risk factors for more severe psoriasis
and ways an individual with psoriasis can help manage their disease in
addition to dermatologist-prescribed treatment."
This study adds to the accumulated body of evidence that "how we live
our lives can play a role in how bad our psoriasis can become," he
said.
"We have recently become aware that smoking, high alcohol intake and
obesity can worsen psoriasis. Now, we have a study that shows that
vigorous exercise can play a role in helping to mitigate psoriasis,"
Green said.
Another expert, Dr. Robert Kirsner, chief of dermatology at the
University of Miami Miller School of Medicine, added that "exercise
allows patients who may be at risk for psoriasis because of family
history the ability to do something to hopefully reduce that risk or
delay the start of the psoriasis."
In addition to reducing inflammation, exercise might also reduce
stress and depression, which are also associated with psoriasis, he
said.
"We finally have something that a patient can do to help reduce their
risk of developing psoriasis," Kirsner said.
More information
For more about psoriasis, visit the National Psoriasis Foundation.
http://www.psoriasis.org/
==========================
But some folks can't handle exercise we're told today?
Some people shouldn't exercise?
Why?
They DON'T know yet!
What about sexercise?
I don't know.. will check albert Ellis NEXT.. his bi-polar mom ...
nevermind... LOL
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/30/can-exercise-be-bad-for-you/?hp
For Some, Exercise May Increase Heart Risk
FITNESS | By GINA KOLATA May 30, 2012
Could exercise actually be bad for some healthy people? A well-known
group of researchers, including one who helped write the scientific
paper justifying national guidelines that promote exercise for all,
say the answer may be a qualified yes.
By analyzing data from six rigorous exercise studies involving 1,687
people, the group found that about 10 percent actually got worse on at
least one of the measures related to heart disease: blood pressure and
levels of insulin, HDL cholesterol or triglycerides. About 7 percent
got worse on at least two measures. And the researchers say they do
not know why.
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http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/05/31/us/jp-EXERCISE-2/jp-EXERCISE-2-articleInline.jpg
Claude Bouchard
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“It is bizarre,” said Claude Bouchard, lead author of the paper,
published on Wednesday in the journal PLoS One, and a professor of
genetics and nutrition at the Pennington Biomedical Research Center,
part of the Louisiana State University system.
Dr. Michael Lauer, director of the Division of Cardiovascular Sciences
at the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute, the lead federal
research institute on heart disease and strokes, was among the experts
not involved in the provocative study who applauded it. “It is an
interesting and well-done study,” he said.
Others worried about its consequences.
“There are a lot of people out there looking for any excuse not to
exercise,” said William Haskell, emeritus professor of medicine at the
Stanford Prevention Research Center. “This might be an excuse for them
to say, ‘Oh, I must be one of those 10 percent.’ ”
But counterbalancing the 10 percent who got worse were about the same
proportion who had an exaggeratedly good response on at least one
measure. Others had responses ranging from little or no change up to
big changes, seen in about 10 percent, where risk factor measurements
improved anywhere from 20 percent to 50 percent.
“That should make folks happy,” said Dr. William E. Kraus, a co-author
of the study who is a professor of medicine and director of clinical
research at Duke. He was a member of the committee providing the
scientific overview for the Department of Health and Human Services’
national exercise guidelines, which advise moderate exercise for at
least 150 minutes a week.
The problem with studies of exercise and health, researchers point
out, is that while they often measure things like blood pressure or
insulin levels, they do not follow people long enough to see if
improvements translate into fewer heart attacks or longer lives.
Instead, researchers infer that such changes lead to better outcomes —
something that may or may not be true.
Some critics have noted that there is no indication that those who had
what Dr. Bouchard is calling an adverse response to exercise actually
had more heart attacks or other bad health outcomes. But Dr. Bouchard
said if people wanted to use changes in risk factors to infer that
those who exercise are healthier, they could not then turn around and
say there is no evidence of harm when the risk factor changes go in
the wrong direction.
“You can’t have it both ways,” Dr. Bouchard said.
The national guidelines for exercise are based on such inferences and
also on studies that compared the health of people who exercised with
that of people who did not, a weak form of evidence often said to be
hypothesis-generating rather than proof.
“We do not know whether implementing exercise programs for unfit
people assures better outcomes,” said Dr. Lauer of the heart
institute. “That has not been established.” And so, he said, “there is
a lot of debate over how strong the guidelines should be in light of
weak evidence.”
Authors of the study say people should continue to exercise as before,
but might also consider getting their heart disease risk factors
checked on a regular basis. No intervention, including drugs, works
for everyone, Dr. Kraus said. So it should not be surprising that
exercise does not work for some.
“I am an exercise guy; I believe in exercise for health,” Dr. Kraus
said. “I would rather have everyone exercise. But you can’t ignore the
data.”
Still, he added, even if someone does not get the expected benefit in
some heart risk factors, there are other reasons to exercise: for
mental health and to improve physical functioning.
And while the researchers would like to spare people from adverse
exercise effects, Dr. Bouchard said, “It is not possible yet to make
more specific recommendations because we do not understand why this is
happening.”
Dr. Bouchard stumbled upon the adverse exercise effects when he looked
at data from his own study that examined genetics and responses to
exercise. He noticed that about 8 percent seemed to be getting worse
on at least one measure of heart disease risk. “I thought that was
potentially explosive,” he said.
He then looked for other clinical trials that also examined exercise
under controlled conditions, making sure that participants actually
exercised and did not change their diets, and carefully measuring
heart risk factors and how they changed with an exercise program. He
found five studies in addition to his own. In all the studies, a
proportion of people, about 10 percent, had at least one measurement
of heart disease risk that went in the wrong direction.
Then the researchers asked if there was some way of predicting who
would have an adverse effect.
They found it was not related to how fit the people were at the start
of the study, nor to how much their fitness improved with exercise.
Age had nothing to do with it, nor did race or gender. In some studies
subjects were allowed to take medications to control their blood
pressure or cholesterol levels. In others they were not.
Medication use did not matter. The study subjects exercised at a range
of intensities from very moderate to fairly intense. But intensity of
effort was not related to the likelihood of an untoward effect.
Nothing predicted who would have an adverse response.
Some experts, like Dr. Benjamin Levine, a cardiologist and professor
of exercise sciences at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical
Center, asked whether the adverse responses represented just random
fluctuations in heart risk measures. Would the same proportion of
people who did not exercise also get worse over the same periods of
time? Or what about seasonal variations in things like cholesterol?
Maybe the adverse effects just reflected the time of year when people
entered the study.
But the investigators examined those hypotheses and found that they
did not hold up.
Dr. Kraus said researchers needed to figure out how to tailor exercise
prescriptions to individual needs. For example, people with good
cholesterol and insulin levels but worrisome blood pressure would want
to know if exercise made their blood pressure rise. A rise in blood
pressure would not be compensated by improvements in already good
cholesterol or insulin levels.
Dr. Lauer said that if nothing else, the study pointed out the need to
know more about what exercise actually does. “If we are going to think
of exercise as a therapeutic intervention, like all interventions
there will be adverse effects,” he said.
He said, “There is a price for everything.”
<snip>
Ellis Time.. the 2nd most influential pyscho therapist (i thought it
was 3rd? But NO.. freud is 3rd and moving backwards it apPears) LoL
Albert started REBT:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_Emotive_Behavior_Therapy
Rational emotive behavior therapy (REBT), previously called rational
therapy and rational emotive therapy, is a comprehensive, active-
directive, philosophically and empirically based psychotherapy which
focuses on resolving emotional and behavioral problems and
disturbances and enabling people to lead happier and more fulfilling
lives
<snip>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Ellis#Work_as_sexologist_and_sex_and_love_researcher
ellis [...] In 1958 he published his classic book Sex Without Guilt
which came to be known for its liberal sexual attitudes.
[...] Near the end of his life, he finally updated and re-wrote Sex
Without Guilt in 2001 and released as Sex Without Guilt in the Twenty-
First Century. In this book, he expounded and enhanced his humanistic
view on sexual ethics and morality and dedicated a chapter on
homosexuality to giving homosexuals advice and suggestion on how to
more greatly enjoy and enhance their sexual love lives. While
preserving some of the ideas about human sexuality from the original,
the revision constituted his current humanistic opinions and ethical
ideals.
<snip>
The War on Musturbation (Albert Ellis documentary PREVIEW)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FOA9Sc08Zk
<time: 6:08>
Wow... you must listen to this all the WAY through.
How Ellis looked at socialism through the eyes of guys from Eastern
Europe.
Not much on Masturbation.... Sorry BB you or i will have to watch
this:
[...] "Completed in December 2005, just after Albert Ellis' last
public appearance, this documentary is about the life and opinions of
psychotherapy's most important and influential voice. Directed by
J.G.M. Davi, the film runs about 90 minutes. (The preview is about 6
minutes.)"
<snip>
But BB can find more info on the p ng from guys who controlled their
psor plaques via strenuous exercise of their yKW's... LOL
Let me look for more on ellis?
OK
http://www.intuition.org/txt/ellis.htm
PHILOSOPHY IN PSYCHOTHERAPY with ALBERT ELLIS, Ph.D.
[...] MISHLOVE: You've used the term -- I think you must have coined
it -- "musterbation."
ELLIS: Right. "Masturbation is good and delicious, but musterbation is
evil and pernicious," is one of my sayings.
<sniP>
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http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_musturbation
What is musturbation?
Answer
Musturbation is a play on the words "must" and "masturbation" coined
by Albert Ellis, the founder of Rational-emotive behavior therapy
(REBT). It refers to the 'should' and 'must' conditions that we place
on ourselves i.e
I must be...
You must be...
The world must be...
<sniP>
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20063890,00.html
March 25, 1974 Vol. 1 No. 4
Dr. Albert Ellis: 'Sex Is the Worst Reason to Marry—or Divorce'
By Sally Moore
In the early 1950s, when Dr. Albert Ellis first began to write about
sex, no one wanted to publish his work, so extreme were his views.
With the publication of Sex Without Guilt in 1958, he moved into the
forefront of the sexual revolution. Today, many of his earlier critics
concede that his blunt, nonmoralistic advice helped to free the
discussion of sex and put it in better perspective. At 60, Ellis is
the author of 30 books, including several bestsellers. He has written
over 200 professional papers, founded institutes for study and
research in a dozen major cities and is in constant demand on the
lecture circuit.
From his home base, The Institute for Rational Living on Manhattan's
East Side, Ellis conducts a flourishing private practice, and oversees
a children's school, workshops and seminars on many aspects of sexual
behavior and theory. There Sally Moore of PEOPLE questioned the still
controversial Dr. Ellis on his views of the sexual revolution—views
which some of his fellow therapists continue to find too free-
wheeling.
What first led you into the field of sex research?
I was a marriage and family counselor and was publishing papers on
subjects like homosexuality and masturbation. Then the people I
counseled began to ask questions, things they were upset and guilty
about, and I began to answer them, both in the sexual and nonsexual
areas.
Are your attitudes a result of your own sexual history?
Yes. I didn't lose my virginity until I was 24 because I felt
inadequate, ashamed and shy. I was certainly very sexually neurotic
then. I don't think I am today.
You used to be a traditional Freudian analyst? Why aren't you any
more?
While I was doing marriage and sex counseling, I took my Ph.D. in
clinical psychology at Columbia—because I thought psychoanalysis was a
deeper method, had deeper answers. But I found that was completely
wrong. It didn't work. Despite the insights and understanding my
patients acquired, they didn't get any better, at least fast enough.
So I began to experiment with other methods.
How do your methods today differ from the Freudians?
The Freudians are deterministic, they believe you got where you are
because of what you did as a child. I think that you can change at any
time, that a person can make himself the way he or she is by the way
he thinks, that a person has many more choices than the Freudians
believe. I encourage people to change their behavior, to force
themselves to try new things.
What are the most common sex problems you see as a counselor?
The same as in nonsexual areas. People starting with perfectionistic
and idealistic goals. People feeling they must be very orgasmic or
sensuous and feeling inferior if they're not.
Can a couple learn to communicate a change in such goals?
They can, but most of them don't. What they have to learn to say to
each other, and it's hard, is that one partner doesn't have to be the
greatest in bed ever and satisfy the other completely all the time.
One should say, "I'd like you to try, but you don't have to be
perfect."
Is sex, in your opinion, one of the major causes for divorce?
No. Just because 80% of the divorce cases have sex problems doesn't
mean they began with one.
What are the major problems?
Personal relations with self and others: hostility, in-laws and money.
Sex is likely to stem from the general problem. People think they
would get along only if their sex lives were good; that's not true.
Many people love each other and don't get along sexually; many people
get along sexually and hate each other.
You've been an advocate of sex outside marriage in many cases, haven't
you?
I advocate what is called open marriage. People should face the fact
that they're not monogamous sexually and have desire for all kinds of
sexual adventures outside the home. I think you can allow this openly
and still have marriage, but it should be on a better basis than we
have now.
When do you advise couples to have extramarital sex?
If one partner wants it—and especially if the mate can take it.
Do you consider it necessary that both partners consent?
It's preferable that way. I believe in what I call "civilized
adultery," rather than hiding and sneaking. That's when you get into
trouble. But no system—complete honesty, lying, or fidelity—works for
all couples all the time.
Aren't extramarital affairs destructive to a marriage and don't they
cause most marriages to break up?
No. They can, but they usually don't. People shouldn't leave each
other for sexual infidelity—that's crazy. They usually have much more
in common together than estranged. Extramarital sex is only
destructive to a marriage when the people involved really don't like
each other and aren't having good sex. They stay together to maintain
a poor marriage and don't have the guts to make a break. Then the
children suffer, because they're living with anger and jealousy.
You've said that you had two wives, a couple of long-term paramours
and a number of casual bed-mates. Did you practice open marriage with
your wives?
My first marriage was very short: after it was annulled we lived
together, and she had relationships outside. With my second wife, we
were faithful for a few years, and then she had extramarital affairs
at the end.
Did that upset you?
It did at first, but then I thought, Hell, I believe in this kind of
thing anyway. So we talked about it, and I said, "OK dear."
Do you think there would be fewer divorces if people lived together
first?
Yes. People should live together at least a year whenever possible to
see if they have the same values, including sex values.
What's the basis for a good marriage? Is sex a reason to marry?
No. Sex is the worst reason to marry—or to divorce. The main thing is
that both people have a convergence of values, of beliefs that they
share.
Are men getting more liberated and do you approve?
I'd say they're getting less fascistic. More liberal and tolerant
toward their wives, more interested and helpful with their children.
And they should.
Why are so many women unhappy in their current marriages?
Women married originally because they were taught that they had to be
married to gain status. They got status and sometimes even security.
They found that what they really wanted was to be individuals and
marriage didn't include that.
Are women learning more to accept sex for sex's sake?
Some are; probably most are not. Most women who have affairs outside
marriage usually don't have them for sex but for love. Men are more
prone to have affairs for sex. It's insane to think women don't have
sex desires like their mates. But women are raised to need a greater
reason; they need to tie sex up with an emotional relationship.
Dr. Ellis, you have been accused by some of your colleagues of having
sexual relations with patients. Is that true?
In a few cases. A lot of my female clients have proposed affairs. Even
though I was attracted to them, I told them it was unethical without
two conditions: that the patient was cured (not quit) and that a year
had passed after therapy was finished. If we had a sexual
relationship, it could only be on that basis. Virtually none of the
ladies called back.
What do you think of group sex and group marriage?
It's OK occasionally, but I don't think many people will get addicted
to it. Group sex is sort of low-level sex satisfaction without
relating, without the emotional elements. Group marriage will only
work for a few people, not because it's hard to get attracted sexually
to, say, four people, but because it's so difficult to get emotionally
attached to even one person.
What sexual trends do you see for the next ten years?
More people will live together without legally marrying; there will be
a little more homosexuality, gradually more adultery and much more
acceptance of it.
<sniP>
Wow.. what happens when you get OLD like Albert at 95 in that one
dvd?
Does he still work or enjoy life or both or or or... er er er?
What are his Endoplasmic Reticulum's doing in the old mitochondrial?
I have 95 year old friend's who are pretty sharp... but albert looks
great.
Does he smell?
OK... look for my old person smell thread... soon.
randall... having a ball thanks to BB...
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