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Julie,
Seems like a good idea to retry the milk thistle imo.
as to BB.
PMID: 18956590 posted by him doesn't show in a search.
But this will soon.
And the only one that does is this one:
PMID: 18956590 - one hit - ALL groups (but not the one from BB)
https://groups.google.com/groups/search?qt_s=1&q=PMID%3A+18956590+
1 of 1 hits:
http://www.rawfoodsupport.com/read.php?2,120383,123472
[...] Re: Natural Cure for H. Pylori?
Posted by: Lollipop ()
Date: November 23, 2008 08:17PM
My organic chemistry professor has done a lot of research on garlic,
and this is what she recommends for h. pylori.
This is also backed up by peer-reviewed research. For example:
"Phytoceuticals such as Korean red ginseng, green tea, red wine,
flavonoids, broccoli sprouts, garlic, probiotics and flavonoids are
known to inhibit H. pylori colonization" PMID: 18956590
"Among the plants that killed H. pylori, turmeric was the most
efficient, followed by cumin, ginger, chilli, borage, black caraway,
oregano and liquorice. Moreover, extracts of turmeric, borage and
parsley were able to inhibit the adhesion of H. pylori strains to the
stomach sections." PMID: 16437723
(PMID - is the pubmed number of the studies, if you want to look them
up yourself.)
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But for me... say i'm doing malt and galt and whose at fault?
Then a malt/galt/ fault by default-- search of our group:
9 hits:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.skin-diseases.psoriasis/search?q=malt+galt&start=0&
Yet if your pmid was posted it also would be picked up.
duh and since this thread now has galt... it will be easier for me to
find.
If you wish to
pubmed: galt / malt... 21 hits! so scant no wonder i tie stuff
together
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=galt%20malt
#2 of 21
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21068536
Hosp Pract (Minneap). 2010 Nov;38(4):122-9.
Probiotics in gastrointestinal disorders.
Quigley EM.
Source
Department of Medicine, Alimentary Pharmabiotic Centre, University
College Cork, Cork, Ireland.
e.qu...@ucc.ie
Abstract
A new era in medical science has dawned with the realization of the
critical role of the "forgotten organ," the enteric flora, in health
and disease. Central to this beneficial interaction between the flora
and humans is the manner in which the bacteria contained within the
gut "talk" to the immune system and, in particular, the immune system
that is widespread within the gut itself, the gut- (or mucosa-)
associated lymphoid tissue (GALT or MALT). Into this landscape comes a
new player: the probiotic. While many products have masqueraded as
probiotics, only those that truly and reproducibly contain live
organisms and have been shown, in high-quality human studies, to
confer a health benefit can actually claim this title. Several human
disease states have benefited from the use of probiotics, most notably
diarrheal illnesses, some inflammatory bowel diseases, and certain
infectious disorders. Irritable bowel syndrome can now be added to
this list. Although this area holds much promise, more high-quality
trials of probiotics in digestive disorders, as well as laboratory
investigations of their mechanisms of action, are required.
PMID: 21068536
And since i consider this brilliant to the galt/ malt level of
inquiry.
I do an author search:
Quigley EM[Author] up OVER has 361 hits..( A LOT!)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Quigley%20EM%5BAuthor%5D
And i will do a thread for PMID: 22895081 or with it in it... NOW :)
So while this isn't one of them unless galt and malt then what? <w>
But for the p ng it is. So get it?
It's like not whether you like or dislike it's about connecting what
WORXs.
Or don't do a neck jerk... you can KF me.. and i won't mind.. LOL
I only wish susan hung around more... so i will do another hpa-axis
soon. LOL
YOUR link:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18956590
J Dig Dis. 2008 Aug;9(3):129-39.
Phytoceuticals: mighty but ignored weapons against Helicobacter pylori
infection.
Lee SY, Shin YW, Hahm KB.
Source
Department of Internal Medicine, Konkuk University School of Medicine,
Seoul, Korea.
Abstract
Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori) infection causes peptic ulcer disease,
mucosa-associated lymphoid tissue (MALT) lymphomas and gastric
adenocarcinomas, for which the pathogenesis of chronic gastric
inflammation prevails and provides the pathogenic basis. Since the
role of H. pylori infection is promoting carcinogenesis rather than
acting as a direct carcinogen, as several publications show,
eradication alone cannot be the right answer for preventing H. pylori-
associated gastric cancer. Therefore, a non-antimicrobial approach has
been suggested to attain microbe-associated cancer prevention through
controlling H. pylori-related chronic inflammatory processes and
mediators responsible for carcinogenesis. Phytoceutical is a term for
plant products that are active on biological systems. Phytoceuticals
such as Korean red ginseng, green tea, red wine, flavonoids, broccoli
sprouts, garlic, probiotics and flavonoids are known to inhibit H.
pylori colonization, decrease gastric inflammation by inhibiting
cytokine and chemokine release, and repress precancerous changes by
inhibiting nuclear factor-kappa B DNA binding, inducing profuse levels
of apoptosis and inhibiting mutagenesis. Even though further unsolved
issues are awaited before phytoceuticals are accepted as a standard
treatment for H. pylori infection, phytoceuticals can be a mighty
weapon for either suppressing or modulating the disease-associated
footprints of H. pylori infection.
PMID: 18956590
And what if you used one of these herbs/things
**Phytoceuticals such as Korean red ginseng, green tea, red wine,
flavonoids, broccoli sprouts, garlic, probiotics and flavonoids are
known to inhibit H. pylori colonization** with malt or now GALT?
You would find it. HERE in the p ng!
So much better then pubmed for GUT and psoriasis don't you NOW agree?
If it was ME.. i'd say Thank-you for making my next search simpler!
OK...
Why is sugar bad?
It screws your good gut flora!
Why is honey better?
It feeds good gut flora!
You want a pmid or my empirical trials?
Or both?
I do provide both 98.6% of the TIME. :)
Yet if Julie says Milk Thistle did xyz... it's an anecdotal trial same
as mine.
So?
How big a sample does one NEED?
If you've got it and someone is willing to try what worked for you
then the sample grows.
Or you can do what big pharma has and insurance pays or obamacare and
then
you face a death panel... LOL
Or we work it out.
I like my WHEY best.
randall