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Bohgosity BumaskiL
Jul 4, 2012, 10:09:09 AM7/4/12
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Put about 350mL of water into a blender.
Cut off wun third of a pineapple, skinned.
Add it to the blender in quarters.
Cut off wun fifth of a red cabbage.
Add it to the blender in quarters.
Add wun heaping teaspoon of Turmeric.
Add wun level teaspoon of Wasabi powder.
Option: Wait eight hours for fermentation to begin.
Enjoy.
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http://ecn.ab.ca/~brewhaha/
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Put about 350mL of water into a blender.
Cut off wun third of a pineapple, skinned.
Add it to the blender in quarters.
Cut off wun fifth of a red cabbage.
Add it to the blender in quarters.
Add wun heaping teaspoon of Turmeric.
Add wun level teaspoon of Wasabi powder.
Option: Wait eight hours for fermentation to begin.
Enjoy.
_______
http://ecn.ab.ca/~brewhaha/
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Bohgosity BumaskiL
Sep 16, 2012, 2:50:35 AM9/16/12
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In another message to this group, I mentioned that I often omit
Turmeric from this recipe for taste reasons. For medicinal reasons,
though, it should be in. I suppoze I could add about two tablespoons
of sugar to meet the bitterness of Turmeric. I usually do that when
I consume Turmeric on its own in a "tea" in which I do not remove
solids. I suspect that heat reduces the effectiveness of Turmeric.
Az a Sherman Brother's song sez, though, "a spoonful of sugar makes
the medicine go down".
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JRStern
Sep 16, 2012, 2:25:10 PM9/16/12
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On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 00:50:35 -0600, Bohgosity BumaskiL
<brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
>In another message to this group, I mentioned that I often omit
>Turmeric from this recipe for taste reasons. For medicinal reasons,
>though, it should be in. I suppoze I could add about two tablespoons
>of sugar to meet the bitterness of Turmeric. I usually do that when
>I consume Turmeric on its own in a "tea" in which I do not remove
>solids. I suspect that heat reduces the effectiveness of Turmeric.
>Az a Sherman Brother's song sez, though, "a spoonful of sugar makes
>the medicine go down".
I used the spice turmeric mixed in food for several years, but never
<brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
>In another message to this group, I mentioned that I often omit
>Turmeric from this recipe for taste reasons. For medicinal reasons,
>though, it should be in. I suppoze I could add about two tablespoons
>of sugar to meet the bitterness of Turmeric. I usually do that when
>I consume Turmeric on its own in a "tea" in which I do not remove
>solids. I suspect that heat reduces the effectiveness of Turmeric.
>Az a Sherman Brother's song sez, though, "a spoonful of sugar makes
>the medicine go down".
much mixed it with sugar - though I did mix it with sweet pickle
relish at one point. The thing is, sugar is probably not a good
dietary addition, if you can avoid it, in regards to p.
Best way to take it I ever found was to mix it in cole slaw, where
both the color and flavor seemed to help, the extensive surface area
helped absorb quite a bit of turmeric, and even the oil in the
dressing helps with absorption - though it was n-6 oil and that's not
generally something you want to eat more of.
J.
Bohgosity BumaskiL
Oct 25, 2012, 2:19:53 PM10/25/12
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Put ~1g of Ascorbic acid into 350mL water.
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Put 2 heaping tbsp. sugar into that water.
Mix and put that water into a blender.
Add one fifth of a pineapple and spin.
Add one pill of 50mg B-Vitamins.
Raise volume of blender by 1/4 with red cabbage.
Copper Chelate 3mg.
Zinc Citrate 50mg.
Chromium Poly-nicotinate 200 mcg. (niacin salt of Chromium)
4000 iu Vitamin D.
Four radishes.
1 level tsp. Wasabi Powder.
1 heaping tsp. Turmeric.
Enjoy.
_______
http://ecn.ab.ca/~brewhaha/
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JRStern
Oct 25, 2012, 7:48:48 PM10/25/12
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:19:53 -0600, Bohgosity BumaskiL
<brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
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>Put ~1g of Ascorbic acid into 350mL water.
>Put 2 heaping tbsp. sugar into that water.
>Mix and put that water into a blender.
>Add one fifth of a pineapple and spin.
>Add one pill of 50mg B-Vitamins.
>Raise volume of blender by 1/4 with red cabbage.
>Copper Chelate 3mg.
>Zinc Citrate 50mg.
>Chromium Poly-nicotinate 200 mcg. (niacin salt of Chromium)
>4000 iu Vitamin D.
>Four radishes.
>1 level tsp. Wasabi Powder.
>1 heaping tsp. Turmeric.
>
>Enjoy.
Yeah, I've tried some enhanced "golden slaw" recipes about like this,
<brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
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>Put ~1g of Ascorbic acid into 350mL water.
>Put 2 heaping tbsp. sugar into that water.
>Mix and put that water into a blender.
>Add one fifth of a pineapple and spin.
>Add one pill of 50mg B-Vitamins.
>Raise volume of blender by 1/4 with red cabbage.
>Copper Chelate 3mg.
>Zinc Citrate 50mg.
>Chromium Poly-nicotinate 200 mcg. (niacin salt of Chromium)
>4000 iu Vitamin D.
>Four radishes.
>1 level tsp. Wasabi Powder.
>1 heaping tsp. Turmeric.
>
>Enjoy.
but you'd want some omega-3 in there, too. Couple of walnuts would be
a move in that direction. I also use the omega-3 eggs, fwiw.
And for all that, the effective (for me) seems to be limited to the
turmeric and fish oil. Since I'm now taking the curcumin pill with a
fish oil capsule, whole lot easier, the rest of this would not have
noticeable effect.
I'd be careful with those metal pills, btw. And/or, throw in a
selenium, except it adds a definite metalic tang.
J.
Bohgosity BumaskiL
Oct 25, 2012, 8:38:39 PM10/25/12
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I forgot to mention Milk Thistle capsules.
I'm using six, since the stuff seems to be az safe az food.
(If you delete my signature, then delete the PGP part, too).
On 2012-10-25 5:48 PM, JRStern wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:19:53 -0600, Bohgosity BumaskiL
> <brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
>
>> Put ~1g of Ascorbic acid into 350mL water.
>> Put 2 heaping tbsp. sugar into that water.
>> Mix and put that water into a blender.
>> Add one fifth of a pineapple and spin.
>> Add one pill of 50mg B-Vitamins.
>> Raise volume of blender by 1/4 with red cabbage.
>> Copper Chelate 3mg.
>> Zinc Citrate 50mg.
>> Chromium Poly-nicotinate 200 mcg. (niacin salt of Chromium)
>> 4000 iu Vitamin D.
>> Four radishes.
>> 1 level tsp. Wasabi Powder.
>> 1 heaping tsp. Turmeric.
>>
>> Enjoy.
>
> Yeah, I've tried some enhanced "golden slaw" recipes about like this,
> but you'd want some omega-3 in there, too. Couple of walnuts would be
> a move in that direction. I also use the omega-3 eggs, fwiw.
>
> And for all that, the effective (for me) seems to be limited to the
> turmeric and fish oil. Since I'm now taking the curcumin pill with a
> fish oil capsule, whole lot easier, the rest of this would not have
> noticeable effect.
I think you would notice the volume, and the fact that it takes a
long time to begin fermentation. If you add an onion, even longer.
Tell that to your gut flora. The problem with your pills iz that
they contain zero fibre, so it's tempting to supplement their volume
with a potato salad or something else of mediocre value, and many
Joules.
> I'd be careful with those metal pills, btw. And/or, throw in a
> selenium, except it adds a definite metalic tang.
I get an excess of Selenium from another recipe, "Cocoa Brazil",
with Brazil Nuts, which are probably the best source of Selenium,
although I won't vouch for their price being all that reasonable in
the recent term. The next best source of Selenium iz probably
Selenium yeast. By the way, "and/or" iz redundant, because "or" iz
inclusive by default. For an "exclusive or" (one or the other and
not both), you can write "either x or y".
The interesting thing about this iz that, especially with an onion,
it's running high on sulfur content, and sulfur and selenium are
interchangable on many molecules, seleno-methionine being just the
beginning.
I forgot to write in the onion, too.
Looks like I'll be writing another revision.
I'm using six, since the stuff seems to be az safe az food.
(If you delete my signature, then delete the PGP part, too).
On 2012-10-25 5:48 PM, JRStern wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 12:19:53 -0600, Bohgosity BumaskiL
> <brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
>
>> Put ~1g of Ascorbic acid into 350mL water.
>> Put 2 heaping tbsp. sugar into that water.
>> Mix and put that water into a blender.
>> Add one fifth of a pineapple and spin.
>> Add one pill of 50mg B-Vitamins.
>> Raise volume of blender by 1/4 with red cabbage.
>> Copper Chelate 3mg.
>> Zinc Citrate 50mg.
>> Chromium Poly-nicotinate 200 mcg. (niacin salt of Chromium)
>> 4000 iu Vitamin D.
>> Four radishes.
>> 1 level tsp. Wasabi Powder.
>> 1 heaping tsp. Turmeric.
>>
>> Enjoy.
>
> Yeah, I've tried some enhanced "golden slaw" recipes about like this,
> but you'd want some omega-3 in there, too. Couple of walnuts would be
> a move in that direction. I also use the omega-3 eggs, fwiw.
>
> And for all that, the effective (for me) seems to be limited to the
> turmeric and fish oil. Since I'm now taking the curcumin pill with a
> fish oil capsule, whole lot easier, the rest of this would not have
> noticeable effect.
long time to begin fermentation. If you add an onion, even longer.
Tell that to your gut flora. The problem with your pills iz that
they contain zero fibre, so it's tempting to supplement their volume
with a potato salad or something else of mediocre value, and many
Joules.
> I'd be careful with those metal pills, btw. And/or, throw in a
> selenium, except it adds a definite metalic tang.
with Brazil Nuts, which are probably the best source of Selenium,
although I won't vouch for their price being all that reasonable in
the recent term. The next best source of Selenium iz probably
Selenium yeast. By the way, "and/or" iz redundant, because "or" iz
inclusive by default. For an "exclusive or" (one or the other and
not both), you can write "either x or y".
The interesting thing about this iz that, especially with an onion,
it's running high on sulfur content, and sulfur and selenium are
interchangable on many molecules, seleno-methionine being just the
beginning.
I forgot to write in the onion, too.
Looks like I'll be writing another revision.
JRStern
Oct 26, 2012, 12:26:20 AM10/26/12
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:38:39 -0600, Bohgosity BumaskiL
<brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
>I think you would notice the volume, and the fact that it takes a
>long time to begin fermentation. If you add an onion, even longer.
>Tell that to your gut flora. The problem with your pills iz that
>they contain zero fibre, so it's tempting to supplement their volume
>with a potato salad or something else of mediocre value, and many
>Joules.
Of course I take care of those separately, I understand why you want
<brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
>I think you would notice the volume, and the fact that it takes a
>long time to begin fermentation. If you add an onion, even longer.
>Tell that to your gut flora. The problem with your pills iz that
>they contain zero fibre, so it's tempting to supplement their volume
>with a potato salad or something else of mediocre value, and many
>Joules.
to wrap it all up in one, and I guess I should mention the other as
well, but I was focusing on the antiinflammatories, not the flora.
>> I'd be careful with those metal pills, btw. And/or, throw in a
>> selenium, except it adds a definite metalic tang.
>
>I get an excess of Selenium from another recipe, "Cocoa Brazil",
>with Brazil Nuts, which are probably the best source of Selenium,
>although I won't vouch for their price being all that reasonable in
>the recent term.
contamination! Though I don't know if selenium supplements have the
same problem - at least I have not heard that they do.
J.
Bohgosity BumaskiL
Oct 26, 2012, 10:36:14 AM10/26/12
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On 2012-10-25 10:26 PM, JRStern wrote:
(snip)
The problem with anti-inflammatories like Turmeric and Jinjer iz
that they deal with an effect, and not a cause. In other words,
infections cause inflammation, and if you deal directly and only
with inflammation, then you may be just inhibiting a natural and
adaptive response to infection; inflammation.
The Horseradish in this recipe takes care of inflammation by taking
care of flora, specificly Helicobacter Pylori.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15246236
Horseradish iz one of few commonly consumed plants that contain
glucosinolates in high enough concentration to hav antibiotic
properties without purification. Another such product iz Broccoli
Sprouts, and they are harder to find than radishes, which taste the
about same way.
(snip)
> I was focusing on the antiinflammatories, not the flora.
(snip)
The problem with anti-inflammatories like Turmeric and Jinjer iz
that they deal with an effect, and not a cause. In other words,
infections cause inflammation, and if you deal directly and only
with inflammation, then you may be just inhibiting a natural and
adaptive response to infection; inflammation.
The Horseradish in this recipe takes care of inflammation by taking
care of flora, specificly Helicobacter Pylori.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15246236
Horseradish iz one of few commonly consumed plants that contain
glucosinolates in high enough concentration to hav antibiotic
properties without purification. Another such product iz Broccoli
Sprouts, and they are harder to find than radishes, which taste the
about same way.
JRStern
Oct 26, 2012, 3:02:54 PM10/26/12
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psoriasis, except regarding secondary infections. I know, these
low-dose regimes and cryptobacteria theories and all, but don't really
believe those are true.
Unfortunately, the best science to date on psoriasis does just treat
symptoms. Until someone figures out something more about what MOA
might be for leaky guts or other theories.
Are you sure you can trade off wasabi and horseradish etc, without
losing the effects? A lot of what is sold in the US as wasabi is just
horseradish colored green.
J.
Bohgosity BumaskiL
Oct 26, 2012, 5:30:46 PM10/26/12
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On 2012-10-26 1:02 PM, JRStern wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:36:14 -0600, Bohgosity BumaskiL
> <brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2012-10-25 10:26 PM, JRStern wrote:
>> (snip)
>>> I was focusing on the antiinflammatories, not the flora.
>> (snip)
>>
>> The problem with anti-inflammatories like Turmeric and Jinjer iz
>> that they deal with an effect, and not a cause. In other words,
>> infections cause inflammation, and if you deal directly and only
>> with inflammation, then you may be just inhibiting a natural and
>> adaptive response to infection; inflammation.
>>
>> The Horseradish in this recipe takes care of inflammation by taking
>> care of flora, specificly Helicobacter Pylori.
>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15246236
>> Horseradish iz one of few commonly consumed plants that contain
>> glucosinolates in high enough concentration to hav antibiotic
>> properties without purification. Another such product iz Broccoli
>> Sprouts, and they are harder to find than radishes, which taste the
>> about same way.
>
> I'm not aware that any antibiotic has been shown to help with
> psoriasis, except regarding secondary infections. I know, these
> low-dose regimes and cryptobacteria theories and all, but don't really
> believe those are true.
On skin, infections are secondary to psoriasis. The primary
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:36:14 -0600, Bohgosity BumaskiL
> <brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2012-10-25 10:26 PM, JRStern wrote:
>> (snip)
>>> I was focusing on the antiinflammatories, not the flora.
>> (snip)
>>
>> The problem with anti-inflammatories like Turmeric and Jinjer iz
>> that they deal with an effect, and not a cause. In other words,
>> infections cause inflammation, and if you deal directly and only
>> with inflammation, then you may be just inhibiting a natural and
>> adaptive response to infection; inflammation.
>>
>> The Horseradish in this recipe takes care of inflammation by taking
>> care of flora, specificly Helicobacter Pylori.
>> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15246236
>> Horseradish iz one of few commonly consumed plants that contain
>> glucosinolates in high enough concentration to hav antibiotic
>> properties without purification. Another such product iz Broccoli
>> Sprouts, and they are harder to find than radishes, which taste the
>> about same way.
>
> I'm not aware that any antibiotic has been shown to help with
> psoriasis, except regarding secondary infections. I know, these
> low-dose regimes and cryptobacteria theories and all, but don't really
> believe those are true.
infection I wrote into my recipe iz for intestinal infection, and I
hav my doubts whether Horseradish can act on skin az an antibiotic
when taken internally. It might work az a topical antibiotic, though.
> Unfortunately, the best science to date on psoriasis does just treat
> symptoms. Until someone figures out something more about what MOA
> might be for leaky guts or other theories.
>
colitis iz comorbid with Helicobacter Pylori infection, and
Helicobacter Pylori infection iz comorbid with inflammation of the
stomach. If any of the messengers for stomach inflammation misfire
on skin, then you can get skin inflammation.
Intestinal permeability iz not a theory. A test iz for it involving
maltitol (which should permeate intestines) az a control, and
lactulose (which should not permeate intestines) az an experiment.
>
> Are you sure you can trade off wasabi and horseradish etc, without
> losing the effects? A lot of what is sold in the US as wasabi is just
> horseradish colored green.
>
Az far az I know, Wasabi iz aquatic Horseradish, and I don't care
> Are you sure you can trade off wasabi and horseradish etc, without
> losing the effects? A lot of what is sold in the US as wasabi is just
> horseradish colored green.
>
about that trivial difference. Both Wasabi and Horseradish would be
nearly white when freshly cut and turn slightly brown upon exposure
to air. That's what bottled Horseradish does. It's a lot more
expensive in bottles than az powder. I can get a kilogram of dry for
about seventeen bucks. I wish they did not colour it. I would rather
see it slightly brown than green. All I really care about iz taste,
which indicates lots of Sinigrin.
_______
Yoh mommuh soh skinny she haz tuu run around in a shower to get wet.
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JRStern
Oct 26, 2012, 8:18:02 PM10/26/12
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On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:30:46 -0600, Bohgosity BumaskiL
<brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
>Az far az I know, Wasabi iz aquatic Horseradish, and I don't care
>about that trivial difference. Both Wasabi and Horseradish would be
>nearly white when freshly cut and turn slightly brown upon exposure
>to air. That's what bottled Horseradish does. It's a lot more
>expensive in bottles than az powder. I can get a kilogram of dry for
>about seventeen bucks. I wish they did not colour it. I would rather
>see it slightly brown than green. All I really care about iz taste,
>which indicates lots of Sinigrin.
Apparently you can grow it very easily, it's actually an invasive weed
<brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
>Az far az I know, Wasabi iz aquatic Horseradish, and I don't care
>about that trivial difference. Both Wasabi and Horseradish would be
>nearly white when freshly cut and turn slightly brown upon exposure
>to air. That's what bottled Horseradish does. It's a lot more
>expensive in bottles than az powder. I can get a kilogram of dry for
>about seventeen bucks. I wish they did not colour it. I would rather
>see it slightly brown than green. All I really care about iz taste,
>which indicates lots of Sinigrin.
and the problem if you plant it, is getting rid of it!
You can also buy it fresh in some markets, for modest price.
I went through a mustard and horseradish phase, it wasn't a cure for
me and I actually tend to avoid them now.
J.
Bohgosity BumaskiL
Nov 8, 2012, 12:03:25 AM11/8/12
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Into 350 mL water, stir up against the side:
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Two heaping tbsp. Brown Sugar
One quarter tsp. Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C)
One heaping tsp. Turmeric
One level tsp. Wasabi Powder
Three capsules, 250 mg, 60% Silymarin, Milk Thistle Extract
This iz fine when I am running low on cabbage and pineapple,
which are the most expensive ingredients, per batch, and the
cheapest ingredients in volume of this recipe. It iz only the'
last three ingredients that do not readily dissolve in water.
In fact, the Milk Thistle I miss, Holista liquid capsules
(dropped from London Drugs a few months ago), seems to be oil-
based and wouldn't dissolve in water at all.
If you do not suspect that you are low on essential metals,
all ingredients in any recipe are optional.
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Bohgosity BumaskiL
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Because of a setback with Niacin, I am struggling to make this
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recipe stronger. Cabbage and Radishes serve much the same purpose,
both being from Brassicacea, and hence things that Julie Bove would
omit from this recipe if she wuz not on medication to replace her
thyroid. While I like the colour of red cabbage, and that colour
comes from anthocyanins, from which are health benefits, it iz
bulky, and I've probably had sufficient cabbage to ensure that I am
not suffering from colitis, if I ever wuz. My chosen additional
weapon iz flaxseed (protected from oxidization with the antioxidants
in Wasabi powder and Vitamin C). For various reasons concerning what
people already take in the way of mineral supplements, and my
uncertainty az to their effectiveness against inflammation, I am
also omitting those.
One thing that I am doing continually iz drinking about three litres
of juice per day. That iz because I've spent many months in the last
twenty years, living on coffee and nicotine, and I do not know what
that did to my kidneys.
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JRStern
Nov 29, 2012, 8:03:52 PM11/29/12
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On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:00:15 -0700, Bohgosity BumaskiL
<brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
>One thing that I am doing continually iz drinking about three litres
>of juice per day.
Gonna be some calories in that?
<brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
>One thing that I am doing continually iz drinking about three litres
>of juice per day.
I drink mass quantities of iced tea but that's usually very watery,
the active ingredients in tea are pretty much diluted. Comes to about
zero calories, or even a couple of negative calories when there's
plenty of ice!
J.
Julie Bove
Nov 29, 2012, 10:55:26 PM11/29/12
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JRStern
Dec 1, 2012, 1:23:11 AM12/1/12
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I'll put a spritz of Sprite into my iced tea sometimes, when I'm
filling my own cup at a lunch joint.
And I still like Crystal Geyser carbonated water with a little
flavoring but no sweeteners at all.
J.
Julie Bove
Dec 1, 2012, 6:03:25 AM12/1/12
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"JRStern" <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote in message
At least at the military commissary. I like bottled and I got rather
largish bottles. Here I can only find it in the 2 liter (too big) and cans.
And I don't know why but I don't like the cans.
I should make an effort to make more tea for the winter. And to drink more
water.
Bohgosity BumaskiL
Dec 2, 2012, 6:08:04 AM12/2/12
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On 2012-11-29 8:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "JRStern" <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote in message
> news:cc1gb8psijii51q7l...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:00:15 -0700, Bohgosity BumaskiL
>> <brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> One thing that I am doing continually iz drinking about three litres
>>> of juice per day.
>>
>> Gonna be some calories in that?
While I may be technically overweight, I am not into counting
> "JRStern" <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote in message
> news:cc1gb8psijii51q7l...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:00:15 -0700, Bohgosity BumaskiL
>> <brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> One thing that I am doing continually iz drinking about three litres
>>> of juice per day.
>>
>> Gonna be some calories in that?
calories from sugar in fruit juice (fat in BBQ chicken skin, yes,
and not sugar calories), especially since juice neatly, simply, and
accurately gets around the problem of trying to figure out which
electolytes (and electrolyte carriers) my potion might be deficient in.
>> I drink mass quantities of iced tea but that's usually very watery,
>> the active ingredients in tea are pretty much diluted. Comes to about
>> zero calories, or even a couple of negative calories when there's
>> plenty of ice!
>>
>> J.
>
> Diet Coke with Lime is my vice.
>
>
Aspartame melts your brain.
Bohgosity BumaskiL
Dec 2, 2012, 6:41:08 AM12/2/12
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1050 mL water (in a juice jug)
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1 2/3 cups flaxseed
Six tbsp. sugar
3 heaping tsp. Turmeric
3 heaping tsp. Wasabi Powder
9 capsules Milk Thistle Extract (60% Silymarin)
1 small onion, or half of a bigger one.
Mix sugar, Silymarin, Wasabi Powder, and Turmeric into water.
Add flaxseed from a foot above spiced water and allow to stand for
half an hour, then stir. Stir mixture after another half hour, and
allow to settle. Decant water from jug and put seeds in a blender.
Spin blender. Pyuuray with onion, then slowly add spiced water back
to blender.
_______
Firestone's Law of Forecasting:
Chicken Little only haz to be right once.
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It should say: "Pyuuray with onion, then slowly add spiced water
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back to _spinning blender_." You can do that in small steps, too,
if you are worried about blender contents splashing in your face.
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JRStern
Dec 2, 2012, 12:31:51 PM12/2/12
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On Sun, 02 Dec 2012 04:08:04 -0700, Bohgosity BumaskiL
By the way, how about adding some black pepper?
The piperine is supposed to slow the metabolism of many ingredients
and make the curcumin much more bioavailable, but I've also just been
trying it myself for culinary reasons, and finding it may have some
other metabolic benefits as well. Sometimes the simple stuff is so
easy to overlook. Supposed to also keep insulin more active and
effective, and it seems for me to also be suppressing appetite for
carbs and helping with a general diet!
J.
<brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
>On 2012-11-29 8:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "JRStern" <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:cc1gb8psijii51q7l...@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:00:15 -0700, Bohgosity BumaskiL
>>> <brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> One thing that I am doing continually iz drinking about three litres
>>>> of juice per day.
>>>
>>> Gonna be some calories in that?
>
>While I may be technically overweight, I am not into counting
>calories from sugar in fruit juice (fat in BBQ chicken skin, yes,
>and not sugar calories), especially since juice neatly, simply, and
>accurately gets around the problem of trying to figure out which
>electolytes (and electrolyte carriers) my potion might be deficient in.
It adds up, have to do the math.
>On 2012-11-29 8:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "JRStern" <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:cc1gb8psijii51q7l...@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:00:15 -0700, Bohgosity BumaskiL
>>> <brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> One thing that I am doing continually iz drinking about three litres
>>>> of juice per day.
>>>
>>> Gonna be some calories in that?
>
>While I may be technically overweight, I am not into counting
>calories from sugar in fruit juice (fat in BBQ chicken skin, yes,
>and not sugar calories), especially since juice neatly, simply, and
>accurately gets around the problem of trying to figure out which
>electolytes (and electrolyte carriers) my potion might be deficient in.
By the way, how about adding some black pepper?
The piperine is supposed to slow the metabolism of many ingredients
and make the curcumin much more bioavailable, but I've also just been
trying it myself for culinary reasons, and finding it may have some
other metabolic benefits as well. Sometimes the simple stuff is so
easy to overlook. Supposed to also keep insulin more active and
effective, and it seems for me to also be suppressing appetite for
carbs and helping with a general diet!
J.
randall
Dec 3, 2012, 6:46:06 PM12/3/12
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On Dec 2, 9:31 am, JRStern <JRSt...@foobar.invalid> wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Dec 2012 04:08:04 -0700, Bohgosity BumaskiL
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <brewh...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
> >On 2012-11-29 8:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> "JRStern" <JRSt...@foobar.invalid> wrote in message
> On Sun, 02 Dec 2012 04:08:04 -0700, Bohgosity BumaskiL
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <brewh...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
> >On 2012-11-29 8:55 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>news:cc1gb8psijii51q7l...@4ax.com...
> >>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:00:15 -0700, Bohgosity BumaskiL
> >>> <brewh...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
>
> >>>> One thing that I am doing continually iz drinking about three litres
> >>>> of juice per day.
>
> >>> Gonna be some calories in that?
>
> >While I may be technically overweight, I am not into counting
> >calories from sugar in fruit juice (fat in BBQ chicken skin, yes,
> >and not sugar calories), especially since juice neatly, simply, and
> >accurately gets around the problem of trying to figure out which
> >electolytes (and electrolyte carriers) my potion might be deficient in.
>
> It adds up, have to do the math.
>
> By the way, how about adding some black pepper?
>
> The piperine is supposed to slow the metabolism of many ingredients
> and make the curcumin much more bioavailable, but I've also just been
> trying it myself for culinary reasons, and finding it may have some
> other metabolic benefits as well. Sometimes the simple stuff is so
> easy to overlook. Supposed to also keep insulin more active and
> effective, and it seems for me to also be suppressing appetite for
> carbs and helping with a general diet!
>
> J.
Jxr
> >>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 08:00:15 -0700, Bohgosity BumaskiL
> >>> <brewh...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
>
> >>>> One thing that I am doing continually iz drinking about three litres
> >>>> of juice per day.
>
> >>> Gonna be some calories in that?
>
> >While I may be technically overweight, I am not into counting
> >calories from sugar in fruit juice (fat in BBQ chicken skin, yes,
> >and not sugar calories), especially since juice neatly, simply, and
> >accurately gets around the problem of trying to figure out which
> >electolytes (and electrolyte carriers) my potion might be deficient in.
>
> It adds up, have to do the math.
>
> By the way, how about adding some black pepper?
>
> The piperine is supposed to slow the metabolism of many ingredients
> and make the curcumin much more bioavailable, but I've also just been
> trying it myself for culinary reasons, and finding it may have some
> other metabolic benefits as well. Sometimes the simple stuff is so
> easy to overlook. Supposed to also keep insulin more active and
> effective, and it seems for me to also be suppressing appetite for
> carbs and helping with a general diet!
>
> J.
While I use gound black pepper almost every night i found the pills
didn't help
but exacerbated my condition at the time iirc.
most likely find it here
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.skin-diseases.psoriasis/search?q=piperine&start=0&
And the same goes for cinnamon which i added to my coffee the other
day and
noticed some EXTRA inflammations in the usual plaques.
And then i was sparked to use kimchi.
And i'm almost back to nicer then spice in a few days.
Do you ever WONDER if this microbiota thing is for REAL?
randall.. i don't .. btw.. ! LOL
JRStern
Dec 3, 2012, 11:32:37 PM12/3/12
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On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 15:46:06 -0800 (PST), randall <ranh...@aol.com>
wrote:
>> By the way, how about adding some black pepper?
>>
>> The piperine is supposed to slow the metabolism of many ingredients
>> and make the curcumin much more bioavailable, but I've also just been
>> trying it myself for culinary reasons, and finding it may have some
>> other metabolic benefits as well. Sometimes the simple stuff is so
>> easy to overlook. Supposed to also keep insulin more active and
>> effective, and it seems for me to also be suppressing appetite for
>> carbs and helping with a general diet!
>>
>> J.
>
>Jxr
>
>While I use gound black pepper almost every night i found the pills
>didn't help but exacerbated my condition at the time iirc.
Given that I see dramatic effects with just a sprinkle, I wouldn't
want to be taking anything more concentrated. I read something that
recommended more than teaspoon of pepper, I dunno about that at all.
>And the same goes for cinnamon which i added to my coffee the other
>day and noticed some EXTRA inflammations in the usual plaques.
Well lemme tell you, get some of this Voskos Greek honey yogurt (also
house branded at TJ's) and mix in about half a teaspoon of cinnamon,
and for extra credit about that many poppy seeds as well - yum!
Cinnamon in modest doses seems at worst harmless for me, and seems to
do nothing else plus or minus up to a tablespoon or two per day, so I
don't.
>And then i was sparked to use kimchi.
>
>And i'm almost back to nicer then spice in a few days.
>
>Do you ever WONDER if this microbiota thing is for REAL?
Well it's real, but I don't put the weight on it that you do.
J.
wrote:
>> By the way, how about adding some black pepper?
>>
>> The piperine is supposed to slow the metabolism of many ingredients
>> and make the curcumin much more bioavailable, but I've also just been
>> trying it myself for culinary reasons, and finding it may have some
>> other metabolic benefits as well. Sometimes the simple stuff is so
>> easy to overlook. Supposed to also keep insulin more active and
>> effective, and it seems for me to also be suppressing appetite for
>> carbs and helping with a general diet!
>>
>> J.
>
>Jxr
>
>While I use gound black pepper almost every night i found the pills
>didn't help but exacerbated my condition at the time iirc.
want to be taking anything more concentrated. I read something that
recommended more than teaspoon of pepper, I dunno about that at all.
>And the same goes for cinnamon which i added to my coffee the other
>day and noticed some EXTRA inflammations in the usual plaques.
house branded at TJ's) and mix in about half a teaspoon of cinnamon,
and for extra credit about that many poppy seeds as well - yum!
Cinnamon in modest doses seems at worst harmless for me, and seems to
do nothing else plus or minus up to a tablespoon or two per day, so I
don't.
>And then i was sparked to use kimchi.
>
>And i'm almost back to nicer then spice in a few days.
>
>Do you ever WONDER if this microbiota thing is for REAL?
J.
randall
Dec 4, 2012, 2:23:02 AM12/4/12
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On Dec 3, 8:32 pm, JRStern <JRSt...@foobar.invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 15:46:06 -0800 (PST), randall <ranhu...@aol.com>
OK, so what tips the SCALEs for you, more then say curcumin?
Is it mainly diet?
Keeping your hpa-axis in a homeostatic range? <g>
Or MIND over Natter's?
For myself it was omega-3 versus w6 ratio (1995-ish) and then
commensal microbiota
colon pH (1999) and DIET (always) and sunny D3 (mainly uvb derived
every year nearly)
and NOW i'm ALMOST on my next trial. Not that L. plantarum hasn't paid
off in a PINCH. <w>
And sooner then later, i'm off on another adventure of CLEARINGs.
AS Supplements are easy, this time the MAIN muscle will
be on the table.
Yet i've got the feeling if it goes extra special, exercise won't
be a surprise.
WILL i tip my SCALEs and genetic's?
I hope/pray and like Jeanne Calment, won't sweat the small or LARGE
stuff.
Rain would be nice followed by clearings and sharp sunshine.
Quick.. pass the D3.
randall... and ALC and PLC and an ...
> On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 15:46:06 -0800 (PST), randall <ranhu...@aol.com>
Is it mainly diet?
Keeping your hpa-axis in a homeostatic range? <g>
Or MIND over Natter's?
For myself it was omega-3 versus w6 ratio (1995-ish) and then
commensal microbiota
colon pH (1999) and DIET (always) and sunny D3 (mainly uvb derived
every year nearly)
and NOW i'm ALMOST on my next trial. Not that L. plantarum hasn't paid
off in a PINCH. <w>
And sooner then later, i'm off on another adventure of CLEARINGs.
AS Supplements are easy, this time the MAIN muscle will
be on the table.
Yet i've got the feeling if it goes extra special, exercise won't
be a surprise.
WILL i tip my SCALEs and genetic's?
I hope/pray and like Jeanne Calment, won't sweat the small or LARGE
stuff.
Rain would be nice followed by clearings and sharp sunshine.
Quick.. pass the D3.
randall... and ALC and PLC and an ...
Bohgosity BumaskiL
Dec 4, 2012, 4:17:08 AM12/4/12
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of B.P. and Clove. Change my recipe for yourself however you want.
B.P. haz an inflammation rating near zero, though. Black Pepper haz
one of the highest Chromium contents (along with Broccoli and Red
Grapes), and I think that explains many of the metabolic benefits
you are ascribing to Piperine, although Piperine might be a carrier
for Chromium, helping it get into mitochondria and such. B.P. iz a
great resource for diabetics, and I do not see much relation between
diabetes and inflammation.
(snip)
JRStern
Dec 5, 2012, 12:32:33 PM12/5/12
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On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 23:23:02 -0800 (PST), randall <ranh...@aol.com>
wrote:
>OK, so what tips the SCALEs for you, more then say curcumin?
My curcumin cocktail with fish oil and vitamin C, and now with black
pepper, plus mass quantities of Curel, and also now using Dove
moisturizing body wash instead of previous more harsh soaps. I'm not
clear, nothing has cleared me since I got this thing, but this
regimen, and long-sleeve shirts, keep me up and moving about in the
world.
Also take other nutritionals for good luck and other health issues and
watch diet ditto, certainly watch my N-3/N-6 ratio and limit the N-6.
I'm foregoing most holiday treats this year trying to finally lose 10
pounds, maybe more. Also haven't had any wheat the last few days,
just as a side-effect of skipping cakes and whatnot, may try to extend
that a little, but never noticed any benefit from it when tried
before. Have seen no other effects from diet or dietary flora, never
tried the fauna.
I used to depend heavily on UV/sun as well, but have been cutting that
back the last year or two, the curcumin regimen seems to make it much
less important.
No doubt I should have tried some of the biologicals by now, but the
cost/risk/effectiveness/duration profile still puts me off.
J.
wrote:
>OK, so what tips the SCALEs for you, more then say curcumin?
pepper, plus mass quantities of Curel, and also now using Dove
moisturizing body wash instead of previous more harsh soaps. I'm not
clear, nothing has cleared me since I got this thing, but this
regimen, and long-sleeve shirts, keep me up and moving about in the
world.
Also take other nutritionals for good luck and other health issues and
watch diet ditto, certainly watch my N-3/N-6 ratio and limit the N-6.
I'm foregoing most holiday treats this year trying to finally lose 10
pounds, maybe more. Also haven't had any wheat the last few days,
just as a side-effect of skipping cakes and whatnot, may try to extend
that a little, but never noticed any benefit from it when tried
before. Have seen no other effects from diet or dietary flora, never
tried the fauna.
I used to depend heavily on UV/sun as well, but have been cutting that
back the last year or two, the curcumin regimen seems to make it much
less important.
No doubt I should have tried some of the biologicals by now, but the
cost/risk/effectiveness/duration profile still puts me off.
J.
FromTheRafters
Dec 5, 2012, 8:11:54 PM12/5/12
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JRStern wrote :
if you've had more than one flare-up - how long was the remission
period?
[...]
> On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 23:23:02 -0800 (PST), randall <ranh...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> OK, so what tips the SCALEs for you, more then say curcumin?
>
> My curcumin cocktail with fish oil and vitamin C, and now with black
> pepper, plus mass quantities of Curel, and also now using Dove
> moisturizing body wash instead of previous more harsh soaps. I'm not
> clear, nothing has cleared me since I got this thing, but this
> regimen, and long-sleeve shirts, keep me up and moving about in the
> world.
How long has this flare-up lasted, if you don't mind my asking? Also,
> wrote:
>
>> OK, so what tips the SCALEs for you, more then say curcumin?
>
> My curcumin cocktail with fish oil and vitamin C, and now with black
> pepper, plus mass quantities of Curel, and also now using Dove
> moisturizing body wash instead of previous more harsh soaps. I'm not
> clear, nothing has cleared me since I got this thing, but this
> regimen, and long-sleeve shirts, keep me up and moving about in the
> world.
if you've had more than one flare-up - how long was the remission
period?
[...]
Julie Bove
Dec 6, 2012, 1:54:47 AM12/6/12
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"JRStern" <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote in message
the athlete's foot cream, mine is almost totally cleared. But then I had
only one small spot. If I had it over larger parts of my body I would start
with the fungal wash followed by the Dove.
JRStern
Dec 6, 2012, 12:01:32 PM12/6/12
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Within the chronic condition I've had flare-ups that slowly trained me
as to ways to avoid them and guided me towards better maintenance
strategies.
J.
FromTheRafters
Dec 6, 2012, 9:42:47 PM12/6/12
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JRStern used his keyboard to write :
lengthy remission.
too. For now it's visits to the easy-bake oven and smearing clobetasol
on the affected areas. I really don't want pills or shots, but it may
come to that.
Thanks for replying, I wasn't sure if my choice of NNTP server was
blocked in this group.
> On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 20:11:54 -0500, FromTheRafters
> <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
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>> JRStern wrote :
>>> On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 23:23:02 -0800 (PST), randall <ranh...@aol.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, so what tips the SCALEs for you, more then say curcumin?
>>>
>>> My curcumin cocktail with fish oil and vitamin C, and now with black
>>> pepper, plus mass quantities of Curel, and also now using Dove
>>> moisturizing body wash instead of previous more harsh soaps. I'm not
>>> clear, nothing has cleared me since I got this thing, but this
>>> regimen, and long-sleeve shirts, keep me up and moving about in the
>>> world.
>>
>> How long has this flare-up lasted, if you don't mind my asking? Also,
>> if you've had more than one flare-up - how long was the remission
>> period?
>>
>> [...]
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> Never had a clearing in 20+ years.
Not what I wanted to hear, I'm newly diagnosed and still have hopes of
> <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
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>> JRStern wrote :
>>> On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 23:23:02 -0800 (PST), randall <ranh...@aol.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, so what tips the SCALEs for you, more then say curcumin?
>>>
>>> My curcumin cocktail with fish oil and vitamin C, and now with black
>>> pepper, plus mass quantities of Curel, and also now using Dove
>>> moisturizing body wash instead of previous more harsh soaps. I'm not
>>> clear, nothing has cleared me since I got this thing, but this
>>> regimen, and long-sleeve shirts, keep me up and moving about in the
>>> world.
>>
>> How long has this flare-up lasted, if you don't mind my asking? Also,
>> if you've had more than one flare-up - how long was the remission
>> period?
>>
>> [...]
>>
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> Never had a clearing in 20+ years.
lengthy remission.
>
> Within the chronic condition I've had flare-ups that slowly trained me
> as to ways to avoid them and guided me towards better maintenance
> strategies.
Hopefully I can get to recognize my triggers and learn to avoid them
> Within the chronic condition I've had flare-ups that slowly trained me
> as to ways to avoid them and guided me towards better maintenance
> strategies.
too. For now it's visits to the easy-bake oven and smearing clobetasol
on the affected areas. I really don't want pills or shots, but it may
come to that.
Thanks for replying, I wasn't sure if my choice of NNTP server was
blocked in this group.
randall
Dec 7, 2012, 5:22:55 PM12/7/12
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On Dec 6, 6:42 pm, FromTheRafters <erra...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
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> > On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 20:11:54 -0500, FromTheRafters
> > <erra...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
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> >> JRStern wrote :
> >>> On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 23:23:02 -0800 (PST), randall <ranhu...@aol.com>
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> > On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 20:11:54 -0500, FromTheRafters
> > <erra...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
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> >> JRStern wrote :
> >>> wrote:
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> >>>> OK, so what tips the SCALEs for you, more then say curcumin?
>
> >>> My curcumin cocktail with fish oil and vitamin C, and now with black
> >>> pepper, plus mass quantities of Curel, and also now using Dove
> >>> moisturizing body wash instead of previous more harsh soaps. I'm not
> >>> clear, nothing has cleared me since I got this thing, but this
> >>> regimen, and long-sleeve shirts, keep me up and moving about in the
> >>> world.
>
> >> How long has this flare-up lasted, if you don't mind my asking? Also,
> >> if you've had more than one flare-up - how long was the remission
> >> period?
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> >> [...]
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> > Never had a clearing in 20+ years.
>
> Not what I wanted to hear, I'm newly diagnosed and still have hopes of
> lengthy remission.
>
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>
> > Within the chronic condition I've had flare-ups that slowly trained me
> > as to ways to avoid them and guided me towards better maintenance
> > strategies.
>
> Hopefully I can get to recognize my triggers and learn to avoid them
> too. For now it's visits to the easy-bake oven and smearing clobetasol
> on the affected areas. I really don't want pills or shots, but it may
> come to that.
>
> Thanks for replying, I wasn't sure if my choice of NNTP server was
> blocked in this group.
Dear FromTHErafters'
>
> >>>> OK, so what tips the SCALEs for you, more then say curcumin?
>
> >>> My curcumin cocktail with fish oil and vitamin C, and now with black
> >>> pepper, plus mass quantities of Curel, and also now using Dove
> >>> moisturizing body wash instead of previous more harsh soaps. I'm not
> >>> clear, nothing has cleared me since I got this thing, but this
> >>> regimen, and long-sleeve shirts, keep me up and moving about in the
> >>> world.
>
> >> How long has this flare-up lasted, if you don't mind my asking? Also,
> >> if you've had more than one flare-up - how long was the remission
> >> period?
>
> >> [...]
>
> > Never had a clearing in 20+ years.
>
> Not what I wanted to hear, I'm newly diagnosed and still have hopes of
> lengthy remission.
>
>
>
> > Within the chronic condition I've had flare-ups that slowly trained me
> > as to ways to avoid them and guided me towards better maintenance
> > strategies.
>
> Hopefully I can get to recognize my triggers and learn to avoid them
> too. For now it's visits to the easy-bake oven and smearing clobetasol
> on the affected areas. I really don't want pills or shots, but it may
> come to that.
>
> Thanks for replying, I wasn't sure if my choice of NNTP server was
> blocked in this group.
see:
: Fri, Dec 7 2012 2:10 pm
Subject: Diet Psor & Diet -- two point OH? - Trigger - Onset -Pustular
(PPP) & Th17 -->SFB-->RAMifications _ HONDA - Littman & Ivanov --
>Clostridium (CANCER time?)-->TREGs-- >L. Plantarum! :O more!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.skin-diseases.psoriasis/msg/18449fced0ded96d
Oh and the point is...once the card14 gene mutates.. your pretty much
stuck with it.
For pustular situations you might LUCK out.
Let's HOPE!
Will contact Katherine Jordan in Anne Bowcocks' LAB to see what they
SAY:
3 hits : jordan + card14 - pubmed:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=jordan%20card14
randall... whooPs.. spilled the BEANs.. LOL
JRStern
Dec 7, 2012, 8:29:49 PM12/7/12
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On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 21:42:47 -0500, FromTheRafters
<err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>Not what I wanted to hear, I'm newly diagnosed and still have hopes of
>lengthy remission.
>>
>> Within the chronic condition I've had flare-ups that slowly trained me
>> as to ways to avoid them and guided me towards better maintenance
>> strategies.
>
>Hopefully I can get to recognize my triggers and learn to avoid them
>too. For now it's visits to the easy-bake oven and smearing clobetasol
>on the affected areas. I really don't want pills or shots, but it may
>come to that.
>
>Thanks for replying, I wasn't sure if my choice of NNTP server was
>blocked in this group.
There is a wide variety of prognosis, from single spots that disappear
<err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>Not what I wanted to hear, I'm newly diagnosed and still have hopes of
>lengthy remission.
>>
>> Within the chronic condition I've had flare-ups that slowly trained me
>> as to ways to avoid them and guided me towards better maintenance
>> strategies.
>
>Hopefully I can get to recognize my triggers and learn to avoid them
>too. For now it's visits to the easy-bake oven and smearing clobetasol
>on the affected areas. I really don't want pills or shots, but it may
>come to that.
>
>Thanks for replying, I wasn't sure if my choice of NNTP server was
>blocked in this group.
or a few spots that come and go for decades, to much wider
involvement, and a few that turn critical.
You're in luck to just be diagnosed now, when there are a bunch of
these "biological" drugs if you need them, that are expensive but much
more effective and safe than previous treatments - and even some of
those previous treatments are now better understood and managed.
Here's my free advice, if that clobetasol doesn't get you 99% clear
within a few days, it probably isn't going to, and (what the doctor
seldom mentions) it loses effectiveness over a few weeks or months in
most cases, your metabolism adjusts. For me, topical steroids were
very ineffective, and what's more my body was clearly absorbing them
like crazy and they caused all sorts of side-effects for me. Judging
from the traffic on this group (that was MUCH busier than this twenty
years ago), maybe 10% to 20% of patients had reactions like mine.
In re the easy bake oven, is that type A or type B or type C? I did
type B. It helped for a few weeks, and then never again - although I
still do some moderate sun-bathing for the benefit. Heck, I hadn't
even heard of anyone doing that for some years. I also did type type
A at my local tanning salon for a while, without the psoralen apertif.
What I eventually discovered was turmeric, the spice, or the more
concentrated active ingredient curcumin. You can Google up all you
want on that. I *strongly* recommend trying it immediately. I like
the Solaray brand, but you can buy whatever your local vitamin and
nutritional aisles have, even the raw spice at your local grocery
(watch for bulk packaging, 8 oz for $4 at the grocery, especially if
you have an Indian (India, not Native American!) market in the area!)
Absorption is an issue with turmeric/curcumin so I take it with a fish
oil capsule (from Trader Joe's), and a vitamin C pill (also from
TJ's). I believe this should work in parallel with the steroids and
should not interfere with the UV. But do your own research.
As your doctor probably said, if you're overweight you want to address
that, if you smoke or drink those are going to be aggravating your p,
fighting the p is going to make you something of a Puritan. Sorry.
THEN you get down to dietary and environmental triggers and the like.
So if you're lucky and a few weeks of steroids and UV fix you up, then
great. Otherwise doctors will start you up the treatment tree, and at
that point, seriously look into the dietary issues (and I suggest
especially TRY THE CURCUMIN, there is actual real science behind it),
and watch out for pretty much all the treatments after steroids and
before the biologicals. There's a bunch of old stuff in there, that
for the most part you can probably skip, but for sure, anything the
doc prescribes get online and read up on the side-effects, the drug
packaging will tell you much, and take it as under-stated.
J.
FromTheRafters
Dec 7, 2012, 9:01:20 PM12/7/12
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It happens that JRStern formulated :
I'm already a non-smoker/non-drinker so that's not a problem.
that my dermatologist has listed for me as far as treatments go. He
listed some topical treatments, some systemic pill forms and some
injection forms.
I don't like any of them, but will do whatever I can to stay as
pain-free as possible.
>
> THEN you get down to dietary and environmental triggers and the like.
>
> So if you're lucky and a few weeks of steroids and UV fix you up, then
> great. Otherwise doctors will start you up the treatment tree, and at
> that point, seriously look into the dietary issues (and I suggest
> especially TRY THE CURCUMIN, there is actual real science behind it),
> and watch out for pretty much all the treatments after steroids and
> before the biologicals. There's a bunch of old stuff in there, that
> for the most part you can probably skip, but for sure, anything the
> doc prescribes get online and read up on the side-effects, the drug
> packaging will tell you much, and take it as under-stated.
>
> J.
Thanks for your insight, I have been researching just about everything
> THEN you get down to dietary and environmental triggers and the like.
>
> So if you're lucky and a few weeks of steroids and UV fix you up, then
> great. Otherwise doctors will start you up the treatment tree, and at
> that point, seriously look into the dietary issues (and I suggest
> especially TRY THE CURCUMIN, there is actual real science behind it),
> and watch out for pretty much all the treatments after steroids and
> before the biologicals. There's a bunch of old stuff in there, that
> for the most part you can probably skip, but for sure, anything the
> doc prescribes get online and read up on the side-effects, the drug
> packaging will tell you much, and take it as under-stated.
>
> J.
that my dermatologist has listed for me as far as treatments go. He
listed some topical treatments, some systemic pill forms and some
injection forms.
I don't like any of them, but will do whatever I can to stay as
pain-free as possible.
JRStern
Dec 7, 2012, 11:56:49 PM12/7/12
to
On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 21:01:20 -0500, FromTheRafters
<err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>Thanks for your insight, I have been researching just about everything
>that my dermatologist has listed for me as far as treatments go. He
>listed some topical treatments, some systemic pill forms and some
>injection forms.
>
>I don't like any of them, but will do whatever I can to stay as
>pain-free as possible.
I guess these are possible paths for treatment? Good to get ahead of
<err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>Thanks for your insight, I have been researching just about everything
>that my dermatologist has listed for me as far as treatments go. He
>listed some topical treatments, some systemic pill forms and some
>injection forms.
>
>I don't like any of them, but will do whatever I can to stay as
>pain-free as possible.
the game. Pills are somewhat unusual, I'm curious what direction he's
talking about there.
I see your type of p is pustular, mine is plaque, so my direct
experience is going to be somewhat different. I haven't heard that
anybody has yet figured out why there are these two different types
and that they are still both psoriasis. I gather that they tend to
respond best to somewhat different treatments. But on top of that
there's a lot of individual variation, there are probably a dozen
genes involved and you can have any of 2^12 combinations of them not
even counting environmental factors!
Plus, psoriasis probably allows a lot of secondary infections to take
hold as well, and you've got to stay on top of that. Welcome to
medical research in your spare time! Randall's long been our man for
posting links to research, new and old, conventional and other. What
any of it means is left as an exercise for the reader.
J.
FromTheRafters
Dec 8, 2012, 7:26:24 AM12/8/12
to
JRStern brought next idea :
Soriatane
Methotrexate
Embrel
Humira
Stellara
I believe he gave me this list so that I could educate myself prior to
finding out that I may need to actually use these treatments.
I would much rather not be suppressing my immune system, as I work with
the public and likely get exposed to everything out there. My spots are
hidden from view, so I can't really relate to the embarrassment factor
I see referenced in the television advertisements. It seems folks are
willing to get injections so that they can wear short sleeve shirts or
short pants or skirts in public. I can't imagine what it is like for
them probably being stared at by others whenever they go out. Some
severe cases of plaque type look horrible and painful to me. I don't
want to be them any more than they would want to be me.
and splitting I can invite bacterial infection, and if I'm on immune
suppressing drugs that can be very bad.
> Welcome to medical research in your spare time!
The doc says if the blisters on my hands erupt, "they won't let me
work", so I may have plenty of spare time for my research. Luckily, it
appears that I can get disability if it comes to that. I'd much rather
keep working though, the pay is better and I feel better about my
self-worth.
> Randall's long been our man for
> posting links to research, new and old, conventional and other. What
> any of it means is left as an exercise for the reader.
>
> J.
Thanks, I'm still going over some of his posted URLs.
> On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 21:01:20 -0500, FromTheRafters
> <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your insight, I have been researching just about everything
>> that my dermatologist has listed for me as far as treatments go. He
>> listed some topical treatments, some systemic pill forms and some
>> injection forms.
>>
>> I don't like any of them, but will do whatever I can to stay as
>> pain-free as possible.
>
> I guess these are possible paths for treatment? Good to get ahead of
> the game. Pills are somewhat unusual, I'm curious what direction he's
> talking about there.
The list he gave me:
> <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your insight, I have been researching just about everything
>> that my dermatologist has listed for me as far as treatments go. He
>> listed some topical treatments, some systemic pill forms and some
>> injection forms.
>>
>> I don't like any of them, but will do whatever I can to stay as
>> pain-free as possible.
>
> I guess these are possible paths for treatment? Good to get ahead of
> the game. Pills are somewhat unusual, I'm curious what direction he's
> talking about there.
Soriatane
Methotrexate
Embrel
Humira
Stellara
I believe he gave me this list so that I could educate myself prior to
finding out that I may need to actually use these treatments.
I would much rather not be suppressing my immune system, as I work with
the public and likely get exposed to everything out there. My spots are
hidden from view, so I can't really relate to the embarrassment factor
I see referenced in the television advertisements. It seems folks are
willing to get injections so that they can wear short sleeve shirts or
short pants or skirts in public. I can't imagine what it is like for
them probably being stared at by others whenever they go out. Some
severe cases of plaque type look horrible and painful to me. I don't
want to be them any more than they would want to be me.
>
> I see your type of p is pustular, mine is plaque, so my direct
> experience is going to be somewhat different. I haven't heard that
> anybody has yet figured out why there are these two different types
> and that they are still both psoriasis. I gather that they tend to
> respond best to somewhat different treatments. But on top of that
> there's a lot of individual variation, there are probably a dozen
> genes involved and you can have any of 2^12 combinations of them not
> even counting environmental factors!
>
> Plus, psoriasis probably allows a lot of secondary infections to take
> hold as well, and you've got to stay on top of that.
Yes, I've read that when my feet get crusty and skin starts cracking
> I see your type of p is pustular, mine is plaque, so my direct
> experience is going to be somewhat different. I haven't heard that
> anybody has yet figured out why there are these two different types
> and that they are still both psoriasis. I gather that they tend to
> respond best to somewhat different treatments. But on top of that
> there's a lot of individual variation, there are probably a dozen
> genes involved and you can have any of 2^12 combinations of them not
> even counting environmental factors!
>
> Plus, psoriasis probably allows a lot of secondary infections to take
> hold as well, and you've got to stay on top of that.
and splitting I can invite bacterial infection, and if I'm on immune
suppressing drugs that can be very bad.
> Welcome to medical research in your spare time!
work", so I may have plenty of spare time for my research. Luckily, it
appears that I can get disability if it comes to that. I'd much rather
keep working though, the pay is better and I feel better about my
self-worth.
> Randall's long been our man for
> posting links to research, new and old, conventional and other. What
> any of it means is left as an exercise for the reader.
>
> J.
JRStern
Dec 8, 2012, 11:38:23 AM12/8/12
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 07:26:24 -0500, FromTheRafters
<err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>The list he gave me:
>
>Soriatane
>Methotrexate
>Embrel
>Humira
>Stellara
>
>I believe he gave me this list so that I could educate myself prior to
>finding out that I may need to actually use these treatments.
>
>I would much rather not be suppressing my immune system, as I work with
>the public and likely get exposed to everything out there.
Interesting that they still even use the "tree" of treatments, from
<err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>The list he gave me:
>
>Soriatane
>Methotrexate
>Embrel
>Humira
>Stellara
>
>I believe he gave me this list so that I could educate myself prior to
>finding out that I may need to actually use these treatments.
>
>I would much rather not be suppressing my immune system, as I work with
>the public and likely get exposed to everything out there.
steroids up to the biologicals. Because of cost, I guess, the
insurance companies will insist on it. I guess the bottom-line stuff,
steroids, still deserve to be tried. And there are some people who
get results from Soriatane and Methotrexate, even though they often
have awful side-effects. Methotrexate is much better managed now than
twenty years ago, smaller doses and no need for liver biopsy.
But it seems to me in most cases, as a patient, I'd want to jump up to
Enbrel pretty quick, it comes much closer to actually targeting the
condition instead of just wacking your metabolism with a stick and
hoping for the best, which is pretty much what the steroids,
Soriatane, and Methotrexate do.
As I understand it, Enbrel these days is used in an on and off manner,
you take it for several weeks and hopefully get good results, then go
off it for several months or as long as it takes for any symptoms to
return. Not only does this mean your immune system is pretty much
back to normal for most of the time, but they hope it means your body
does not develop a resistance to Enbrel and you can stay with the drug
for more years without losing effectiveness.
Enbrel clears from the body in a week or so, which is a GOOD thing if
you get sick! Some of the others take much longer, which is good
because it means fewer injections, but bad if you get sick. Just worth
thinking about.
But I *really* do recommend your trying the curcumin, fish-oil, and
vitamin C cocktail sooner rather than later. Like today, if the
steroids are not giving you quick clearing, which btw - are they?!??!
--
In fact, of all the dietary guidelines, the omega-6 and omega-3 (aka
n-6 and n-3) balance is probably the best. Most Americans eat way too
much red meat and salad oils, all omega-6. Ocean-caught fish contain
the most and the best types of omega-3 ... and also a lot of mercury,
unfortunately. You can Google for more info on omega-3s. Bottom line
is the fish oil capsules are pretty convenient. Improving your
balance of n-6 and n-3 may not clear you, but should help reduce
intensity and inflammation. Every little bit helps!
J.
ps - btw, I was interested to see if your list included
cyclosporin/neoral, an anti-rejection drug that turns off your entire
immune system instead of targeting the T1 cells that seem related to
psoriasis. Back in the day, neoral was often used for a week or two
to get a quick clearing, which then would either maintain by itself or
with other treatments. But that really invited infections, from colds
to cancer.
pps - I'm really serious about the curcumin etc, although I can only
vouch for it for plaque psoriasis, if you Google it you see it
apparently *also* targets the T1 cells and/or TNF metabolic paths,
just like the fancy biologicals but much less intensely. I've had no
problem with infections using curcumin for years now. That it's not
right at the top of any conventional doctor's "try this" tree, I think
is a travesty. And what it does for you, should be clear within
twelve to forty-eight hours, this isn't one of those, "trust me, take
it for six months" deals, that is any benefit should start being clear
within a day or so, though if it cured you on the spot (unlikely) a
full healing of everything would take some normal time, weeks I guess.
ppps - the biologicals cost is $10k - $20k+ per year, if you had to
pay cash, which may be the main reason they don't jump to them
quicker. the other reason is that they don't target JUST the
psoriasis but still do suppress rather larger parts of the immune
system, though they are not a sledge-hammer like neoral. so
complications can occur, and really, afaik the science is still out on
exactly which ones the suppression might be responsible for, certainly
the tuberculosis test they give you is one sign, and even the tv ads
mention fungal infections.
Julie Bove
Dec 8, 2012, 3:13:58 PM12/8/12
to
blisters between my fingers that itch like the dickens. And then they
burst.
Bohgosity BumaskiL
Dec 9, 2012, 7:16:55 PM12/9/12
to
ovaries. The rest of the time, genes are restricted to expression or
failure of expression. The environment of your cells determines
which genes are expressed, not which ones are mutated.
FromTheRafters
Dec 11, 2012, 4:19:19 PM12/11/12
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After serious thinking JRStern wrote :
maybe, I will use some of this information in a self-treatment
scenario. If I end up out of work, I don't want to screw up my chances
of getting disability by not following the advice of my doctor or by
doing something to make my condition worse without the doctor's
knowledge.
affect my decision as to which biological to use.
pustular ones. Those areas seem to keep shifting their position -
sometimes to less painful areas and sometimes to more painful areas.
I'll limp on one foot one day and on the other three or four days later
which is making my muscles ache even when my feet don't hurt.
was one for getting sick a lot, not many missed work days.
From what I've been reading, PPP is particularly resistant to
treatment, maybe cylosporin/neoral isn't the right thing for what I've
got and thus wasn't even considered by my doctor.
[...]
> On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 07:26:24 -0500, FromTheRafters
> <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> The list he gave me:
>>
>> Soriatane
>> Methotrexate
>> Embrel
>> Humira
>> Stellara
>>
>> I believe he gave me this list so that I could educate myself prior to
>> finding out that I may need to actually use these treatments.
>>
>> I would much rather not be suppressing my immune system, as I work with
>> the public and likely get exposed to everything out there.
>
>
> Interesting that they still even use the "tree" of treatments, from
> steroids up to the biologicals. Because of cost, I guess, the
> insurance companies will insist on it. I guess the bottom-line stuff,
> steroids, still deserve to be tried. And there are some people who
> get results from Soriatane and Methotrexate, even though they often
> have awful side-effects. Methotrexate is much better managed now than
> twenty years ago, smaller doses and no need for liver biopsy.
For now I will go with my dermatologist's recommendations. Later,
> <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> The list he gave me:
>>
>> Soriatane
>> Methotrexate
>> Embrel
>> Humira
>> Stellara
>>
>> I believe he gave me this list so that I could educate myself prior to
>> finding out that I may need to actually use these treatments.
>>
>> I would much rather not be suppressing my immune system, as I work with
>> the public and likely get exposed to everything out there.
>
>
> Interesting that they still even use the "tree" of treatments, from
> steroids up to the biologicals. Because of cost, I guess, the
> insurance companies will insist on it. I guess the bottom-line stuff,
> steroids, still deserve to be tried. And there are some people who
> get results from Soriatane and Methotrexate, even though they often
> have awful side-effects. Methotrexate is much better managed now than
> twenty years ago, smaller doses and no need for liver biopsy.
maybe, I will use some of this information in a self-treatment
scenario. If I end up out of work, I don't want to screw up my chances
of getting disability by not following the advice of my doctor or by
doing something to make my condition worse without the doctor's
knowledge.
>
> But it seems to me in most cases, as a patient, I'd want to jump up to
> Enbrel pretty quick, it comes much closer to actually targeting the
> condition instead of just wacking your metabolism with a stick and
> hoping for the best, which is pretty much what the steroids,
> Soriatane, and Methotrexate do.
Understood, and thanks.
> But it seems to me in most cases, as a patient, I'd want to jump up to
> Enbrel pretty quick, it comes much closer to actually targeting the
> condition instead of just wacking your metabolism with a stick and
> hoping for the best, which is pretty much what the steroids,
> Soriatane, and Methotrexate do.
>
> As I understand it, Enbrel these days is used in an on and off manner,
> you take it for several weeks and hopefully get good results, then go
> off it for several months or as long as it takes for any symptoms to
> return. Not only does this mean your immune system is pretty much
> back to normal for most of the time, but they hope it means your body
> does not develop a resistance to Enbrel and you can stay with the drug
> for more years without losing effectiveness.
That is good to know, if it comes to that then this information may
> As I understand it, Enbrel these days is used in an on and off manner,
> you take it for several weeks and hopefully get good results, then go
> off it for several months or as long as it takes for any symptoms to
> return. Not only does this mean your immune system is pretty much
> back to normal for most of the time, but they hope it means your body
> does not develop a resistance to Enbrel and you can stay with the drug
> for more years without losing effectiveness.
affect my decision as to which biological to use.
>
> Enbrel clears from the body in a week or so, which is a GOOD thing if
> you get sick! Some of the others take much longer, which is good
> because it means fewer injections, but bad if you get sick. Just worth
> thinking about.
>
> But I *really* do recommend your trying the curcumin, fish-oil, and
> vitamin C cocktail sooner rather than later. Like today, if the
> steroids are not giving you quick clearing, which btw - are they?!??!
>
Much improvement in the plaque areas, but not so much in the crusty and
> Enbrel clears from the body in a week or so, which is a GOOD thing if
> you get sick! Some of the others take much longer, which is good
> because it means fewer injections, but bad if you get sick. Just worth
> thinking about.
>
> But I *really* do recommend your trying the curcumin, fish-oil, and
> vitamin C cocktail sooner rather than later. Like today, if the
> steroids are not giving you quick clearing, which btw - are they?!??!
>
pustular ones. Those areas seem to keep shifting their position -
sometimes to less painful areas and sometimes to more painful areas.
I'll limp on one foot one day and on the other three or four days later
which is making my muscles ache even when my feet don't hurt.
>
> In fact, of all the dietary guidelines, the omega-6 and omega-3 (aka
> n-6 and n-3) balance is probably the best. Most Americans eat way too
> much red meat and salad oils, all omega-6. Ocean-caught fish contain
> the most and the best types of omega-3 ... and also a lot of mercury,
> unfortunately. You can Google for more info on omega-3s. Bottom line
> is the fish oil capsules are pretty convenient. Improving your
> balance of n-6 and n-3 may not clear you, but should help reduce
> intensity and inflammation. Every little bit helps!
I'll look into it.
> In fact, of all the dietary guidelines, the omega-6 and omega-3 (aka
> n-6 and n-3) balance is probably the best. Most Americans eat way too
> much red meat and salad oils, all omega-6. Ocean-caught fish contain
> the most and the best types of omega-3 ... and also a lot of mercury,
> unfortunately. You can Google for more info on omega-3s. Bottom line
> is the fish oil capsules are pretty convenient. Improving your
> balance of n-6 and n-3 may not clear you, but should help reduce
> intensity and inflammation. Every little bit helps!
>
> ps - btw, I was interested to see if your list included
> cyclosporin/neoral, an anti-rejection drug that turns off your entire
> immune system instead of targeting the T1 cells that seem related to
> psoriasis. Back in the day, neoral was often used for a week or two
> to get a quick clearing, which then would either maintain by itself or
> with other treatments. But that really invited infections, from colds
> to cancer.
Eh, I have a cold now - and just started my vacation from work. I never
> ps - btw, I was interested to see if your list included
> cyclosporin/neoral, an anti-rejection drug that turns off your entire
> immune system instead of targeting the T1 cells that seem related to
> psoriasis. Back in the day, neoral was often used for a week or two
> to get a quick clearing, which then would either maintain by itself or
> with other treatments. But that really invited infections, from colds
> to cancer.
was one for getting sick a lot, not many missed work days.
From what I've been reading, PPP is particularly resistant to
treatment, maybe cylosporin/neoral isn't the right thing for what I've
got and thus wasn't even considered by my doctor.
[...]
FromTheRafters
Dec 11, 2012, 4:27:22 PM12/11/12
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Julie Bove formulated the question :
Sometimes the name for a symptom sounds like a name for a disease. I
*did* have little blisters that felt like I had a sliver. Two on my
palm, and one along the side of my ring finger. One, I lanced, and two
others I popped. The ones on my feet popped of their own accord (or
rather, because I was walking on them) and at that time I was treating
for tinea pedis (misdiagnosed PPP) with Terbinafine - which I have
since read is a irritant and a trigger for P. That, and keeping my feet
dry, was perhaps not a good thing to be doing.
*did* have little blisters that felt like I had a sliver. Two on my
palm, and one along the side of my ring finger. One, I lanced, and two
others I popped. The ones on my feet popped of their own accord (or
rather, because I was walking on them) and at that time I was treating
for tinea pedis (misdiagnosed PPP) with Terbinafine - which I have
since read is a irritant and a trigger for P. That, and keeping my feet
dry, was perhaps not a good thing to be doing.
Bohgosity BumaskiL
Dec 12, 2012, 11:34:03 PM12/12/12
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On 2012-12-11 2:19 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
> After serious thinking JRStern wrote :
(...)
> After serious thinking JRStern wrote :
>> Bottom line
>> is the fish oil capsules are pretty convenient. Improving your
>> balance of n-6 and n-3 may not clear you, but should help reduce
>> intensity and inflammation. Every little bit helps!
>
> I'll look into it.
Flaxseed contains many more things than omega-3 oils.
>> is the fish oil capsules are pretty convenient. Improving your
>> balance of n-6 and n-3 may not clear you, but should help reduce
>> intensity and inflammation. Every little bit helps!
>
> I'll look into it.
It contains things to help you absorb and metabolize those oils.
It contains lignans, which are beneficial on their own.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lignan
It's like with fish oil.
_______
The best way to get fish oil iz from fish.
--Chiropractor Pagano and Doctor Dean Edell
Bohgosity BumaskiL
Dec 16, 2012, 5:50:55 PM12/16/12
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"Food boluses (or boli, singular, bolus) imitate true bezoars and
are composed of loose aggregates of food items such as seeds, fruit
pith, or pits, as well as other types of items such as shellac,
bubble gum, soil, and concretions of some medications."
In one of my recipes, I soak flaxseed in a mixture of Wasabi powder
and Turmeric, because I noticed that Flaxseed absorbs a lot of
water. I got to thinking that it might also absorb the wrong metals
that are going around and around, between your liver and bowels --
or just in the wrong ratios. In other words, it might be beneficial
to force your liver into producing more bile salts from scratch.
Psyllium husk duz a similar thing, though I suspect it duz not
absorb az much oil.
Flaxseed absorbs water slowly, and my stomach absorbs it quickly, so
I figure at some point, the flaxseed will be absorbing things like
bile and food.
So, I grabbed a measuring cup of flaxseed, table-spooned some of it
into my mouth, and washed it down with a mug of water. It took about
two mugs of water to wash down the flaxseed. I probably won't get
much omega-3 from the flaxseed, and I noticed that ALA only makes my
piss cloudy, anyway. It's the closest thing to a bezoar (a la Harry
Potter) that I can think of. It would probably be able to treat some
poisons.
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Julie Bove
Dec 17, 2012, 3:56:03 AM12/17/12
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not a good thing.
Bohgosity BumaskiL
Dec 17, 2012, 10:38:19 PM12/17/12
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On 2012-12-17 1:56 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Bohgosity BumaskiL" <brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote in message
> news:aj71ii...@mid.individual.net...
> "Bohgosity BumaskiL" <brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote in message
> news:aj71ii...@mid.individual.net...
> From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bezoar :
> "Food boluses (or boli, singular, bolus) imitate true bezoars and
> are composed of loose aggregates of food items such as seeds, fruit
> pith, or pits, as well as other types of items such as shellac,
> bubble gum, soil, and concretions of some medications."
(...)
> "Food boluses (or boli, singular, bolus) imitate true bezoars and
> are composed of loose aggregates of food items such as seeds, fruit
> pith, or pits, as well as other types of items such as shellac,
> bubble gum, soil, and concretions of some medications."
> But a Bezoar tends to stick in you and has to be surgically removed. It's
> not a good thing.
I got my orijinal understanding of these words from a Harry Potter
> not a good thing.
book. Bolus, then.
Julie Bove
Dec 18, 2012, 1:45:53 AM12/18/12
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The term Bolus relates to insulin. It is the amount that you take to cover
a meal. I have never read Harry Potter. Just not interested.
a meal. I have never read Harry Potter. Just not interested.
Bohgosity BumaskiL
Jan 10, 2013, 6:35:02 AM1/10/13
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really intend it to be an "omnibus" recipe featuring Wasabi powder,
Radishes, and Red Cabbage juice for your stomach and Liver, too. In
my creation of this recipe, I noticed that my amount of flaxseed
seemed to consume a lot of the taste in Wasabi powder. My suspicion
iz that Horseradish Peroxidase wuz deoxidizing some of the oil or
other volatile components in flaxseed, so a lot less flaxseed iz in
this version of my recipe. It tastes hot. If it's too hot for you,
then you can naturally take out some Wasabi or put some more
Flaxseed in.
The sugar in the following recipe iz balanced against the bitterness
in Turmeric. I add salt *and* sugar to my curry, buy the weigh.
_______
http://ecn.ab.ca/~brewhaha/ BrewJay's Babble Bin
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Bohgosity BumaskiL
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700 mL red cabbage juice (in a juice jug)
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3 heaping tsp. Turmeric
3 heaping tsp. Wasabi Powder
6 capsules Milk Thistle Extract (60% Silymarin)
1g of Ascorbic acid (Vitamin C)
5 tbsp. sugar
1 cup flaxseed
1/5 of a pineapple
1 small onion, or half of a bigger one
4 Radishes
One pill of B Vitamins
4000 iu Vitamin D
Mix sugar, Silymarin, Wasabi Powder, Turmeric, and Vitamin C into
cabbage juice. Add flaxseed from a foot above spiced water and allow
to stand for half an hour, then stir. Stir mixture after another
half hour, and allow to settle. Decant water from jug and put seeds
in a blender. Spin blender. Pyuuray with pineapple, onion, radishes,
B Vitamins, and Vitamin D. Slowly add spiced water back to spinning
blender (use small steps to do this to avoid splashing).
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Bohgosity BumaskiL
Jan 14, 2013, 3:41:23 PM1/14/13
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On 2012-12-17 11:45 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Bohgosity BumaskiL" <brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote in message
> news:aja6pg...@mid.individual.net...
>> On 2012-12-17 1:56 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Bohgosity BumaskiL" <brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:aj71ii...@mid.individual.net...
>>> From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bezoar :
>>> "Food boluses (or boli, singular, bolus) imitate true bezoars and
>>> are composed of loose aggregates of food items such as seeds, fruit
>>> pith, or pits, as well as other types of items such as shellac,
>>> bubble gum, soil, and concretions of some medications."
>> (...)
>>> But a Bezoar tends to stick in you and has to be surgically removed.
>>> It's
>>> not a good thing.
>>
>> I got my orijinal understanding of these words from a Harry Potter
>> book. Bolus, then.
>
> The term Bolus relates to insulin. It is the amount that you take to cover
> a meal. I have never read Harry Potter. Just not interested.
>
>
Time destroys insulin, not food. Although, if I look at it the other
> "Bohgosity BumaskiL" <brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote in message
> news:aja6pg...@mid.individual.net...
>> On 2012-12-17 1:56 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Bohgosity BumaskiL" <brew...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:aj71ii...@mid.individual.net...
>>> From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bezoar :
>>> "Food boluses (or boli, singular, bolus) imitate true bezoars and
>>> are composed of loose aggregates of food items such as seeds, fruit
>>> pith, or pits, as well as other types of items such as shellac,
>>> bubble gum, soil, and concretions of some medications."
>> (...)
>>> But a Bezoar tends to stick in you and has to be surgically removed.
>>> It's
>>> not a good thing.
>>
>> I got my orijinal understanding of these words from a Harry Potter
>> book. Bolus, then.
>
> The term Bolus relates to insulin. It is the amount that you take to cover
> a meal. I have never read Harry Potter. Just not interested.
>
>
way around, food demands a certain amount of insulin prezent to be
converted into fat or enerjy. I guess it would be nice if there were
an insulin patch. Bolus iz synonymous with Bunch, although I suspect
Bolus iz more often liquid.
Bohgosity BumaskiL
Feb 3, 2013, 7:35:49 AM2/3/13
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To follow Pagano's program, you must avoid many currys (that contain
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Paprika, Cayenne or any Jalapeno cousins), or construct your own
recipe. I am not writing all of my recipe for curried rice here,
because I believe that you should construct your own by sampling the
components, and guessing something between a teaspoon and a heaping
tablespoon. My recipe includes a teaspoon of half- salt and varying
amounts of sugar (depending on my choice for amounts of Turmeric and
Celery seed, which are both bitter).
Cumin (Tastes like soap to me, and like the smell)
Coriander
Cardamom (Expensive, with minty smell)
Fenugreek (This can be sprouted, so it's usually not ground)
Fennel (Cousin of Celery and Dill, methinks)
Caraway (I am out of this, and it's hard to find)
Turmeric (Bitter, and medicinal)
Celery Seed (Bitter)
Clove
Black Pepper
Add one litre of water, 147mL (American Cup) of rice, and any of the
above spices, plus anything else you like. Turn the burner on high
until the water starts boiling. Cover pot and turn heat down to
about six, until the rice haz soaked up some of the water, and much
of it haz boiled off, less than half an hour. That's when I add
sugar, because sometimes I use a lot of Turmeric, and when I use a
lot of Turmeric, I also use more hot spices like Pepper and Clove. I
like to be able to eat it cold.
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700 mL red cabbage juice (in a juice jug)
5 tbsp. sugar
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700 mL red cabbage juice (in a juice jug)
6 capsules Milk Thistle Extract (60% Silymarin)
3 heaping tsp. Wasabi Powder
3 heaping tsp. Turmeric
3 heaping tsp. Wasabi Powder
1g of Ascorbic acid (Vitamin C)
1 heaping tsp. salt
1 level tsp. half salt (1/2 KCl)
1 cup flaxseed
1/5 of a pineapple
1 small onion, or half of a bigger one
4 Radishes
One pill of B Vitamins
4000 iu Vitamin D
Mix sugar, Silymarin, Wasabi Powder, Turmeric, Vitamin C and salt into
1/5 of a pineapple
1 small onion, or half of a bigger one
4 Radishes
One pill of B Vitamins
4000 iu Vitamin D
cabbage juice. Add flaxseed from a foot above spiced water and allow
to stand for half an hour, then stir. Stir mixture after another
half hour, and allow to settle. Decant water from jug and put seeds
in a blender. Spin blender. Pyuuray with pineapple, onion, radishes,
B Vitamins, and Vitamin D. Slowly add spiced water back to spinning
blender (use small steps to do this to avoid splashing).
_______
to stand for half an hour, then stir. Stir mixture after another
half hour, and allow to settle. Decant water from jug and put seeds
in a blender. Spin blender. Pyuuray with pineapple, onion, radishes,
B Vitamins, and Vitamin D. Slowly add spiced water back to spinning
blender (use small steps to do this to avoid splashing).
"Bother," said the Borg, "we assimilated a Pooh."
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