P,hair color and hair loss
jamiekate
it have on the P. will it make the hair loss i have worse? does P cause
hair loss? any thoughts? thanks
jamie
Misty
I had coupe soleil done some years ago and the peroxide dripped through on
my scalp. It was burning like hell. Dunno if other hair colors do the same
though.
Misty.
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Mr. Perry
before I started shaving my head was immediately after I had a perm. For a
number of years I had my hair curled about every three months. Some of the
chemicals in the perm solution would make my scalp bleed and burn like hell
for a little while, but then within a few days most of the itching and scaling
went away. Of course it would come back in about ten days to two weeks. The
itching, weeping on my scalp and bleeding is what finally prompted me to shave
my head. My p on the scalp cleared up within a month and I have kept it shaved
ever since. That was in '93.
short_sleeves
I've not had a problem with hair loss, and I've had psoriasis for
almost 10 years. But I would like to share my experience with hair
color, and hopefully this idea will be of interest to you.
I guess your interest in my idea will depend upon what hair color you
have and what color you want. I am naturally brunette, and have
become extremely gray in the last few years. Needless to say, I was
feeling desperate when even the temporary hair colors left my scalp
irritated, and my psoriasis worse.
Then a couple of years ago, I was lucky enough to meet a coworker from
India. One day we were talking about my hair color issue and, in my
ignorance, I mentioned that I was curious why Indian women were never
gray. The truth is that they that are, but have long used Henna to
cover their gray. If you're like me, your idea of henna is the fancy
ingredient in hair care products that give you some highlights.
Skip this part if you don't want the boring details:
What I learned is that they buy the powder (in a box from your local
Indian store), mix it with water into a paste, let the paste sit a
couple of hours, then put it on their hair thoroughly and leave it for
about 3 or 4 hours (forgive me if I've forgotten the exact detailed
times). At some point, I don't remember if it's after or before the
henna, they put oil in their hair...this part is important.
I followed her directions, all except for the part about the oil,
which I didn't remember hearing, so I had a heck of a time getting the
stuff out of my hair, and even getting a brush through it. BUT, it
did cover my gray thoroughly. The reason I've added these mundane
details is because if you ask someone from India how to apply it, they
may give you similar directions, which I found to not be very
practical for me.
Now, here's what I do: I find an empty shampoo bottle (or one that's
almost empty) and put about 1/4 of the box of henna powder into the
bottle. (The size of henna powder I get is about the same size, a
little smaller actually, as a box of baking soda) I add water, about a
1/2 cup, and I even pour some shampoo and conditioner in with it.
Shake it up, and there you have it. (I had to experiment with the
amount of stuff to mix with it to get it where I liked it) The shampoo
and conditioner (I've even added hair gel and detangler to the mix)
help it lather and keep your hair from tangling. It is super messy,
so I just put it on in the shower after I shampoo and condition my
hair. I leave it on a few minutes, and then rinse and reshampoo and
condition. I condition a lot since the henna seems to have a drying
effect on my hair (but not my scalp). You might try leaving it in 30
to 45 minutes the first time, if you are covering gray. After that,
10 - 20 minutes seems to work for me.
It has not only been non-irritating to my psoriasis, it actually makes
it feel better. I've even gotten to where I put on other parts of my
body as it seems to soothe my psoriasis patches.
Since I usually don't use the whole bottle, I just keep the bottle in
the shower to use everyday to keep my hair constantly colored <No
ROOTS>.
The box of powder is very inexpensive (about $3.75/box) especially if
you can get 4 or 5 mixtures out of it. Just look for an Indian or
Pakistani store in your area and ask them for Henna 'for your hair'.
And no matter what anyone tells you, do NOT get the "other" colors of
henna. As far as I understand, the henna plant will only give hair a
reddish tint. My local Indian store was out of the regular stuff, so
I tried this "black" henna. It obviously had other "chemicals" in it
because my scalp became extremely irritated, so be skeptical if people
offer you henna in other shades. I've also not had any success
finding a salon to color my hair with henna, so ask a lot of questions
about their product they use, if you find a sallon that says they'll
do it.
My friend told me that the more you use it and longer you keep it in,
the darker your hair will eventually get. It is so inexpensive that
if you want, you can try it at least once and see if you like it, and
make sure it really doesn't irritate your skin.
Beware if you've recently treated your hair with chemical hair color,
bleach, or had a perm if you want to use the henna. I've heard that
your hair will turn funky colors.
If anyone has any questions, feel free to send me a message:
short_...@hotmail.com
jamiekate
well i did it. and i have some huge knots in my head now.my husband says it
looks like pimples.it hurts like hell.
jamie
jamiekate
i wish i could shave my head...but i would look funky!
Mr. Perry
jamiekate wrote:
How do you know if you don't try it? I have known some damned sexy women that had
shaved heads. Check out the first Star Trek movie. If you shave it and don't like it
you can wear a wig when out in public.
The sad part about me shaving my head is that I did it when Mom was getting
chemotherapy. She asked me if I did it to make fun of her. By that time the chemo or
her cancer was effecting her mind. I just laughed and showed her my scalp.
Mr. Perry
jamiekate wrote:
This too shall pass. '-)
Janet
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>
> The box of powder is very inexpensive (about $3.75/box) especially if
> you can get 4 or 5 mixtures out of it. Just look for an Indian or
> Pakistani store in your area and ask them for Henna 'for your hair'.
> And no matter what anyone tells you, do NOT get the "other" colors of
> henna. As far as I understand, the henna plant will only give hair a
> reddish tint.
Hmmm... my hair is already red (and IIRC, it was actually that way naturally
once!). I am curious... is this the red henna? I used to buy the neutral
henna for bringing out the hilights, but always thought the red henna was a
REALLY vivid hue. Hope I was wrong... I'd like to try this.
Janet
JXSternChangeX2R
(short_sleeves) wrote:
>Now, here's what I do: I find an empty shampoo bottle (or one that's
>almost empty) and put about 1/4 of the box of henna powder into the
>bottle. (The size of henna powder I get is about the same size, a
>little smaller actually, as a box of baking soda) I add water, about a
>1/2 cup, and I even pour some shampoo and conditioner in with it.
>Shake it up, and there you have it. (I had to experiment with the
>amount of stuff to mix with it to get it where I liked it) The shampoo
>and conditioner (I've even added hair gel and detangler to the mix)
>help it lather and keep your hair from tangling. It is super messy,
>so I just put it on in the shower after I shampoo and condition my
>hair. I leave it on a few minutes, and then rinse and reshampoo and
>condition. I condition a lot since the henna seems to have a drying
>effect on my hair (but not my scalp). You might try leaving it in 30
>to 45 minutes the first time, if you are covering gray. After that,
>10 - 20 minutes seems to work for me.
>
>It has not only been non-irritating to my psoriasis, it actually makes
>it feel better. I've even gotten to where I put on other parts of my
>body as it seems to soothe my psoriasis patches.
All very interesting!
What do they recommend about the oil, btw, that you found
inconvenient?
J.
short_sleeves
From what I understand, there is only ONE type of Henna. I assume
that since everyone's hair is different, various color results can be
expected. However, any other 'types' of henna may have extra
ingredients added. This is important since other ingredients may
irritate the skin. Henna may also cause a reaction, so always test
it first, but is less likely than harsh chemicals. I personally mix
it with shampoo, conditioner, and a detangler because I feel that
makes it easier to use, and I've made sure these products don't cause
me irritation on my skin.
Excerpt from an FDA site [discussing the dangers of henna used on the
skin] might help explain it better. I've changed some words to
UPPERCASE:
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http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/cos-tatt.html
"Henna, a coloring made from a plant, is approved only for use as a
hair dye, not for direct application to the skin, as in the
body-decorating process known as mehndi. This unapproved use of a
COLOR ADDITIVE makes these products adulterated and therefore illegal.
An import alert is in effect for henna intended for use on the skin.
FDA has received reports of injuries to the skin from PRODUCTS
MARKETED AS HENNA.
Since henna typically produces a brown, orange-brown, or reddish-brown
tint, OTHER INGREDIENTS must be added to produce other colors, such as
those marketed as "black henna" and "blue henna." So-called "black
henna" may contain the "coal tar" color p-phenylenediamine, also known
as PPD. This ingredient may cause allergic reactions in some
individuals... Even brown shades of products marketed as henna may
contain OTHER INGREDIENTS intended to make them darker or make the
stain last longer.
In addition to color additives, these skin-decorating products may
contain other ingredients, such as SOLVENTS."
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Don't know how accurate this next site is, but it mentions that henna
has astringent and conditioning properties:
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http://www.nrdcindia.com/pages/henna.htm
"Henna (Lawsonia inermis L. or L. alba L.) is one of the oldest known
hair dye plant the world and used as a hair dye since the dawn of the
history. Natural henna leaves of small shrubs are picked, dried and
pulverized to a fine powder. The plant contains a red orange color
component, lawsone which is chemically designated as
2-hydroxy-1,4-Napthoquinone
Today, the use of henna has increased tremendously not only for hair
coloring but also as a hair conditioner (the cuticle is smoothened by
its sealing action), hair growth promoter, for hair brightening,
astringent..."
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Like I said before, when I put the henna on my scalp and skin, I
definitely felt a soothing effect on my psoriasis. I hope others will
give it a try and also have positive results.
short_sleeves
hairstyle. However, since I've never tried it, I can't really say one
way or the other how it would actually be.
Misty
The black henna has some black powder added (don't remember what it was) but
we had a warning in Holland about it. Black henna was used on a couple of
kids for a temporary tattoo, turned out they got a bad allergic reaction and
burned their skin. It seems there's something in the black stuff that can
cause violent allergic reactions. Do be careful with that please.
Misty.
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Janet
I think what I used to buy must have been altered. It came in 'neutral' or
'natural'. The natural henna had the effect of red dye, and the neutral
henna didn't have any distinct color, but it brought out the natural
hilights and added hints of red. It was likely combined with something
else.
Maybe I'll get brave and give it a go... I only have a half bottle of my
"natural" color left :-)
Janet
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Kim Malo
worse, but OTOH my mother used to strip her dark hair prior to dying
it and thought that kept her scalp P under better control than it had
been before. Only way to know which will happen for you is to try it.
P doesn't cause air loss per se, but bad P might do things like block
the hair follicles and make the scalp/hair unhealthy enough to result
in some loss, on top of possible hair loss through picking at scalp P.
And of course some of the treatments, like mtx can cause hair loss
while things like a harsh tar shampoo can make the hair dry and
brittle and easily broken off.
Kim
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