Do I tell a girl that I'm a virgin?
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11.  merri  
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 More options May 11 2004, 7:50 pm
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From: merri <merriNOS...@softhome.net>
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 03:50:36 +0400
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Subject: Re: Do I tell a girl that I'm a virgin?

On Tue, 11 May 2004 08:57:07 +0100, Pumpkinhead wrote:
>>>So he's not a man-whore, why is that bad?

>> Becuase women dont like men who cant get laid.

> I don't like women who don't like men who "can't get laid".

Basically, you can  shorten this sentence to "I don't like women".

 
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12.  BDB  
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 More options May 10 2004, 3:36 pm
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From: BDB <noem...@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 19:36:44 GMT
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Subject: Re: Do I tell a girl that I'm a virgin?
After rebooting Windows, Phil wrote:

> Do I explain to her my lack of experience beforehand or just not say
> anything about it.. If I say something she's going to wonder what the hell
> is wrong with me that she's only the second girl I've been with, but
> otherwise how do I explain my lack of 'knowledge'?

Absolutely DON'T tell her.  There is really nothing to it, if you read
up and actually try to please her you will seem better than most
guys with experience.  Go to www.fastseduction.com and look for
info there.  Or google for Manic High Guide, I think that is the name
of a good overview.  Basically, always build up the chick.  Never
move quickly to sex or direct stimulation.  Everything moves from
the lightest of touches to stronger touch, from the least sexual
points to the most sexual points.  Start doing less-sexual stuff like
kissing.  Very gradually move to more sexual stuff kissing neck and
touching nipples.  Just brush nipples initially.  Touch her everywhere.
Watch closely how she reacts to everything you do, and continue
with things she likes, avoid things she doesn't (obvious eh!).
Touch her everywhere except tits and pussy at first.  Neck, underarms,
and feet are good spots, especially the neck.  Look into her eyes
a lot, drink in her scent, tell her she smells wonderful.  When you
do get around to removing her top, remove yours.  Same with pants,
underwear, etc.  When you finally enter her, go in slow, it can be painful
for them if you go in too quick.  She must be wet.  Build up
tempo slowly.  If you are gonna cum too quick, slow down or stop, it's
ok, kiss her some more and get your mind off it.  If you do lose it
too quick, don't apologize.  It helps to be good at eatting pussy.
I can post about that too if you'd like :)

 
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13.  Xile  
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From: cos...@marihuana.ro (Xile)
Date: 10 May 2004 13:44:32 -0700
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Subject: Re: Do I tell a girl that I'm a virgin?

No, why would you ? I mean you're not "techincally" a virgin, so why
would you feel the pressure to mention it ? Just try to relax and have
fun, maybe she won't be able to tell :). Or maybe she will but won't
mind it. I mean i assume you know what goes where (or if not, look it
up :) )
If it comes up now or later, don't lie about it, but don't just offer
the info like that. It will look like you're obsessing about it, and
maybe put some pressure on her...
I'm in pretty much in the same situation (not "technically" a virgin
anymore, but still just as clueless), but if by absurd i'll ever
manage to get a girlfriend i'm sure going to take advantage of that
technicality to at least try to act like i know what i'm doing ;)

 
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14.  Ceazer XII  
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 More options May 10 2004, 10:40 pm
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From: brian...@hotmail.com (Ceazer XII)
Date: 10 May 2004 19:40:58 -0700
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Subject: Re: Do I tell a girl that I'm a virgin?
Don't tell her you are a virgin. Odds are she'll think something is
wrong with you. We live in a superficial society, remember that.

 
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15.  allen  
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 More options May 10 2004, 10:57 pm
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From: "allen" <etma...@excite.com>
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 21:57:05 -0500
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Subject: Re: Do I tell a girl that I'm a virgin?
Noooo waaaaay.....first of all, why tell her you are a virgin when you
aren't?   Also, I wouldn't tell her that you lost it to an escort.

I'm not sure about many things when it comes to relationships with women but
I'm pretty sure about those two.

"Phil" <p...@myaddress.com> wrote in message

news:c7nr8s$nqi$1@ucsnew1.ncl.ac.uk...


 
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16.  Dakota Monroe  
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 More options May 10 2004, 11:29 pm
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From: dakota_...@hotmail.com (Dakota Monroe)
Date: 10 May 2004 20:29:02 -0700
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Subject: Re: Do I tell a girl that I'm a virgin?

No. Don't tell her. If it does come up say it was against your beliefs
to have casual sex outside of a long term relationship and she's the
first person you've met that you would even consider having a long
term relationship with.

It matters. I know some people will say it don't and maybe you'll be
lucky  and it dosen't matter to this girl but look at it this way.
Theres a reason so many guys are hesitant to admit to women that they
are virgins. I mean this is not just something they pulled out the
blue. Lots of time women expect the guy to be more experienced and
look negatively on male virgins past a certain age. Heck even teen
guys can get the boot if the girl thinks he "dosen't know what he's
doing" much less a guy in his twenties or thirties.

I've always found the contrast interesting. How when....

guys look at a woman
She has lots of experience = negative
She has litte or no experience = positive

while when...

women look at men
He has lots of experience = positive
He has little or no experience = negative.

Of course you could make this a moot point. I wonder if you hired one
of those escorts again and explained the situation if they would give
you some adult education?


 
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17.  Pumpkinhead  
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 More options May 11 2004, 3:55 am
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From: "Pumpkinhead" <pumpkin_head060...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 08:55:56 +0100
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Subject: Re: Do I tell a girl that I'm a virgin?

> No. Don't tell her. If it does come up say it was against your beliefs
> to have casual sex outside of a long term relationship and she's the
> first person you've met that you would even consider having a long
> term relationship with.

> It matters. I know some people will say it don't and maybe you'll be
> lucky  and it dosen't matter to this girl but look at it this way.
> Theres a reason so many guys are hesitant to admit to women that they
> are virgins. I mean this is not just something they pulled out the
> blue. Lots of time women expect the guy to be more experienced and
> look negatively on male virgins past a certain age. Heck even teen
> guys can get the boot if the girl thinks he "dosen't know what he's
> doing" much less a guy in his twenties or thirties.

He should tell her about his lack of experience.  If she doesn't like it,
then she's not worth being with anyway.  It's a nice little way of testing
her.  The result of the test is good, whatever it is.

> I've always found the contrast interesting. How when....

> guys look at a woman
> She has lots of experience = negative
> She has litte or no experience = positive

This is true with me.  It makes sense as well.  A woman who is less
experienced is less likely to have sexually transmitted diseases.

> while when...

> women look at men
> He has lots of experience = positive
> He has little or no experience = negative.

I've heard women say that a man can have too much experience but also that a
man should have some experience.  I've heard women say that "6 or 7 is
nice".  i.e.  any man they have sex with should have had about 6 or 7 sexual
partners so far.

 
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18.  Solitary Soul  
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 More options May 11 2004, 10:47 am
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From: Solitary Soul <solitarysoulNOS...@ev1.net>
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:47:04 -0500
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Subject: Re: Do I tell a girl that I'm a virgin?
On Tue, 11 May 2004 08:55:56 +0100, "Pumpkinhead" <pumpkin_head060...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

I vote with Pun'kin on this one - tell her.

If she has a problem with it, she's a bytch - and not worth it.

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19.  Dakota Monroe  
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 More options May 11 2004, 5:43 pm
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From: dakota_...@hotmail.com (Dakota Monroe)
Date: 11 May 2004 14:43:30 -0700
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Subject: Re: Do I tell a girl that I'm a virgin?

I agree with you. I am petrified of catching things.
Not only that but finding a woman who was, or seemed anyway, less
active meant you didn't have to wonder as much if a child was really
yours. Or at least thats the way it was for 99.999% of man's history
on this planet until recently so I'm sure thats part of the reason
males have grown accustomed to desire inexperienced women for
long-term partners.

Then again I guess there is another reason. The less experienced a
woman is the less aware she would probably be if you are sexually
inadequate. I don't know about that myself. People say that and joke
about it but from what I have read males actually caring if sex was
enjoyable for women is a recent phenominum. I remember seeing in rerun
the old "all in the family" episode where archie says "women aren't
supposed to enjoy it! they're supposed to just lay there and take
it!". Sure by the time that show was on that notion was not held by
many but you probably wouldn't have to go too far back (few centuries
maybe) to a time when that was the common way of thinking so I don't
know if male insecurity is a factor in guys liking inexperienced
women.

As far as women liking experience guys. Well I have my own rather
shaky theory that the human race has not fully adjusted to the concept
of one man and one woman. It "Seems" to me at least that we are even
now still inclined towards the one man - many women model and women
liking experienced guys may just be a small side-effect of that. Apart
from the obvious reasons of course for why an experienced guy is held
in high regards. Reasons like he has proved his desireability (other
women wanted him so he must be worth having) and the power aspects of
it.

I guess women probably could have an interesting take on us. most guys
usually will want to screw anything and as often as possible.
Continually put pressure on girls to put out but then later, with
another girl when we want something serious we're disgusted hearing
about the many partners she may have had regardless of the number we
may have had.


 
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20.  Lumushahs  
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 More options May 11 2004, 12:21 am
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From: lumush...@aol.com (Lumushahs)
Date: 11 May 2004 04:21:33 GMT
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Subject: Re: Do I tell a girl that I'm a virgin?
From: "Phil" p...@myaddress.com

> I've ended
>up with a girlfriend, great!

<misc stuff snipped>

> I'm pretty sure that the next
>time I see her we are going to end up sleeping together.

I don't have any advice for your situation, but I'd like to turn the table and
ask you for some advice.

How did you know that you will sleep with this girl? What did you say or do to
get the girl to sleep with you?


 
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