Organized Stalking/ NWO
here...@yahoo.com
western democratic nations. And they tend to target anyone who is
"different" in any way. I am a "Targeted Individual" and my life has been
unjustly destroyed. This new program going on is similar to East German
Stasi and KKK tactics. These people are Nazis, literally.
The public needs to become aware of whats going on.
http://www.targetedindividuals.com
http://www.whatisgangstalking.blogspot.com/
http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/2002/07/19_Spies.html
For more information google "gangstalking" and "organized stalking".
Rev. 11D Meow!
SODDI
Shouldn't you be in bed?
here...@yahoo.com
> I'm sorry, the NWO can't come out and play with you, Timmy.
>
> Shouldn't you be in bed?
You can laugh about it now, but just wait...
These things going on are warning signs, faint rumblings. Americans are
slowly losing their rights and privacy. Maybe someday it will be you who is
a "target" with no privacy.
the_dawggie
> Everyone, I beg you to look over these links. Fascism is on the rise in
> western democratic nations. And they tend to target anyone who is
> "different" in any way. I am a "Targeted Individual" and my life has been
> unjustly destroyed. This new program going on is similar to East German
> Stasi and KKK tactics. These people are Nazis, literally.
> The public needs to become aware of whats going on.
The world is a "Big Brother" society now. Shows that humans are shite
because they can be. I don't even like to leave my apartment.
--
Kip.
Zapanaz
Are you the guy who thinks everybody who walks by the street you live
on is actually an MI6 spy? Or is that somebody else?
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
Somehow, this factoid gives me that cozy, warm feeling
inside. Like internal haemmoraging, but on morphine.
- Fwap
:: Currently listening to String Quartet in G major, Op. 77 No. 1 (Hob. III: 81): Allegro moderato, 1799, by Haydn, from "Haydn String Quartets - Amadeus Quartet"
slunky
> On Sep 13, 2:58?pm, here4...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Everyone, I beg you to look over these links. Fascism is on the rise in
>> "different" in any way. I am a "Targeted Individual" and my life has been
>> unjustly destroyed. This new program going on is similar to East German
>> Stasi and KKK tactics. These people are Nazis, literally.
>> The public needs to become aware of whats going on.
>
> The world is a "Big Brother" society now. Shows that humans are shite
> because they can be. I don't even like to leave my apartment.
>
> --
Yes you do, Dippy. That's why you're always talking about all the places
you go, all the vacations you go on, and how you go out and make all
your billion dollar business deals.
--
-slunky
Pies de Arcilla
> here4...@yahoo.com hunched over a computer, typing feverishly;
> Thunder crashed, here4...@yahoo.com laughed madly, then wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:19:53 -0400, SODDI wrote:
>
> >> I'm sorry, the NWO can't come out and play with you, Timmy.
>
> >> Shouldn't you be in bed?
>
> >You can laugh about it now, but just wait...
> >These things going on are warning signs, faint rumblings. Americans are
> >slowly losing their rights and privacy. Maybe someday it will be you who is
> >a "target" with no privacy.
>
> Are you the guy who thinks everybody who walks by the street you live
> on is actually an MI6 spy? Or is that somebody else?
I'm pretty sure it's another guy. And I think it's MI5 not MI6 though
I forget the difference.
MissB...@aol.com
> Everyone, I beg you to look over these links. Fascism is on the rise in
> western democratic nations. �And they tend to target anyone who is
> "different" in any way. I am a "Targeted Individual" and my life has been
> unjustly destroyed. This new program going on is similar to East German
> Stasi and KKK tactics. These people are Nazis, literally.
> The public needs to become aware of whats going on.
>
No kidding! I was just thinking the same thing this morning when i
went to make pancakes.
I was all excited to use my brand new ladle...you know, the kind with
the pour spout on one end, ensuring a minimum of drips?
Well the darn thing was made for "right" handers and I had to stand
*behind* the stove in order to get the batter into the pan! That's
when I realized that the government is trying to make us all *right-
handed*! WTF? I thought this was AMERICA???
...disappointed again.
Damn fascist, conspiratorial right-hand ladel makers.
You better believe I'm pissed!
--
Miss Binky
Curtis R Anderson
> On Sep 12, 9:58�pm, here4...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Everyone, I beg you to look over these links. Fascism is on the rise in
>> western democratic nations. �And they tend to target anyone who is
>> "different" in any way. I am a "Targeted Individual" and my life has been
>> unjustly destroyed. This new program going on is similar to East German
>> Stasi and KKK tactics. These people are Nazis, literally.
>> The public needs to become aware of whats going on.
>>
>
>
> No kidding! I was just thinking the same thing this morning when i
> went to make pancakes.
>
> I was all excited to use my brand new ladle...you know, the kind with
> the pour spout on one end, ensuring a minimum of drips?
>
> Well the darn thing was made for "right" handers and I had to stand
> *behind* the stove in order to get the batter into the pan! That's
> when I realized that the government is trying to make us all *right-
> handed*! WTF? I thought this was AMERICA???
>
> ...disappointed again.
>
> Damn fascist, conspiratorial right-hand ladel makers.
>
> You better believe I'm pissed!
There was (is?) that time when Catholic schools had nuns thwack the
hands of those students who dared to write left-handed, as though they
were in league with the devil or something.
--
Curtis R. Anderson, Co-creator of "Gleepy the Hen", still
Email not munged, SpamAssassin [tm] in effect.
http://www.gleepy.net/ mailto:gle...@intelligencia.com
mailto:gle...@gleepy.net (and others) Yahoo!: gleepythehen
here...@yahoo.com
> here...@yahoo.com hunched over a computer, typing feverishly;
> Thunder crashed, here...@yahoo.com laughed madly, then wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:19:53 -0400, SODDI wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sorry, the NWO can't come out and play with you, Timmy.
>>>
>>> Shouldn't you be in bed?
>>
>>You can laugh about it now, but just wait...
>>These things going on are warning signs, faint rumblings. Americans are
>>slowly losing their rights and privacy. Maybe someday it will be you who is
>>a "target" with no privacy.
>
> Are you the guy who thinks everybody who walks by the street you live
> on is actually an MI6 spy? Or is that somebody else?
Nope, that guy seemed loopy, but its not impossible he was being targeted.
Being targeted makes you seem crazy which is what they want.
here...@yahoo.com
> http://rathergood.com/my_car/
wow, at least post something listenable in my thread haha
here...@yahoo.com
Steve Thompson
I think it is interesting that the people who report they are being
hounded by spy agencies are generally those who have very little else
going for them. I don't know why spy agencies target these
individuals, and I don't care. I just wish they would allocate those
assets to operations against serial killers, terrorists, fanatical
religious extremists, or at least unethical buisnessmen.
Regards,
Steve
--
We haven't even begun yet to learn about the cosmos - we're at about
10% mark - if that. Anything more than two centuries old, are as the
musings of children in the dark. -- Willi...@gmail.com
Karmic
> On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 07:24:31AM -0600, here...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:57:03 -0700, Zapanaz wrote:
>>
>>> here...@yahoo.com hunched over a computer, typing feverishly;
>>> Thunder crashed, here...@yahoo.com laughed madly, then wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:19:53 -0400, SODDI wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm sorry, the NWO can't come out and play with you, Timmy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Shouldn't you be in bed?
>>>>
>>>>You can laugh about it now, but just wait...
>>>>These things going on are warning signs, faint rumblings. Americans are
>>>>slowly losing their rights and privacy. Maybe someday it will be you who is
>>>>a "target" with no privacy.
>>>
>>> Are you the guy who thinks everybody who walks by the street you live
>>> on is actually an MI6 spy? Or is that somebody else?
>>
>> Nope, that guy seemed loopy, but its not impossible he was being targeted.
>> Being targeted makes you seem crazy which is what they want.
>
> I think it is interesting that the people who report they are being
> hounded by spy agencies are generally those who have very little else
> going for them. I don't know why spy agencies target these
> individuals, and I don't care. I just wish they would allocate those
> assets to operations against serial killers, terrorists, fanatical
> religious extremists, or at least unethical buisnessmen.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
I agree Steve, but with psychopaths consolidating their power what can you
do? People who are targeted often have certain traits in common. First off
they are individuals. Many are high intelligence, and have integrity and
ethics which is a combo they cant stand.The powers that be prefer to go
after people who are easy targets, vulnerable, its an easier, cleaner
'kill' for them. Nip them in the bud, before they might become a "problem".
Although they have destroyed and ruined high profile people as well, Jean
Seberg is one example. Many whistleblowers have had their lives ruined, but
its swept under the rug.
http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2007/10/24/marks-letter-to-targets/
They use whatever groups they can to do the dirty work- the harassment etc.
unmonitored citizens groups, church groups,kkk,extremists, bikers, gangs,
illegal , homeless etc
But i believe that at the the root of this is psychopaths in power, and
their longterm agenda. They are just moving the chess pieces towards the
goal of total domination. Even people involved in these activities dont
know(and dont care) about the big picture.
Steve Thompson
> I agree Steve, but with psychopaths consolidating their power what can you
> do? People who are targeted often have certain traits in common. First off
> they are individuals. Many are high intelligence, and have integrity and
> ethics which is a combo they cant stand.The powers that be prefer to go
> after people who are easy targets, vulnerable, its an easier, cleaner
> 'kill' for them. Nip them in the bud, before they might become a "problem".
> Although they have destroyed and ruined high profile people as well, Jean
> Seberg is one example. Many whistleblowers have had their lives ruined, but
> its swept under the rug.
>
> http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2007/10/24/marks-letter-to-targets/
>
> They use whatever groups they can to do the dirty work- the harassment etc.
> unmonitored citizens groups, church groups,kkk,extremists, bikers, gangs,
> illegal , homeless etc
> But i believe that at the the root of this is psychopaths in power, and
> their longterm agenda. They are just moving the chess pieces towards the
> goal of total domination. Even people involved in these activities dont
> know(and dont care) about the big picture.
Why the hell are you replying to my post?
You must know that the prevailing wisdom today states (by implication
only, I'm afraid) that normal, civilized discussion with Steve is not
to be encouraged lest it interfere with important political objectives?
Understand that the political agenda in question is so important that
it cannot be articulated fully, and so you will have to take it on
faith that it is necessary and must superseed silly little things like
well-known basic human rights or even the laws of the land.
So just take your non-PC sensibilities and shove them up your ass and
shut the fuck up.
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what's not to love about usenet
Rev. 11D Meow!
<here...@yahoo.com> wroterootered...
You want some paranoia?
Watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/v/j5wR8odaQfo
Rev. 11D Meow!
"%" wroterootered...
>
>
>
> what's not to love about usenet
>
>
hi
The Rev. Dr. Lt. Chaos Israel
> > Thunder crashed, here4...@yahoo.com laughed madly, then wrote:
>
> >>On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:19:53 -0400, SODDI wrote:
>
> >>> I'm sorry, the NWO can't come out and play with you, Timmy.
>
> >>> Shouldn't you be in bed?
>
> >>You can laugh about it now, but just wait...
> >>These things going on are warning signs, faint rumblings. Americans are
> >>slowly losing their rights and privacy. Maybe someday it will be you who is
> >>a "target" with no privacy.
>
> > Are you the guy who thinks everybody who walks by the street you live
> > on is actually an MI6 spy? Or is that somebody else?
>
> Nope, that guy seemed loopy, but its not impossible he was being targeted.
> Being targeted makes you seem crazy which is what they want.
He thought Terry Wogan, the UK morning show host, was making fun of
him personally. Sorry, that reads as "batshit".
Theoretically possible that he was being harrassed *and* he was crazy.
--
C.
Harry
thanks Rev.
Zapanaz
A few other things I've noticed they all tend to have in common:
1. There is no real rational earthly reason that they would be the
target of what, if it really existed, would be an extremely expensive
and laborious exercise in harrasment. The supposed victim can tell
you what the reasons are, and to the supposed victim the reasons seem
to make sense, but to a third party they don't sound like "reasons" at
all.
What you say above about victims tending to have "intelligence and
integrity, a combination which THEY can't stand", is a good example.
You really think that a conspiracy of evil people are going to spend
hours of their time and tens of thousands of dollars worth of
man-hours stalking you because they notice that you "have intelligence
and integrity", and that just infuriates them? It isn't a reason at
all, it's a persecution complex phrased as a reason.
2. Their descriptions of "being stalked", if you look at them
closely, are indistinguishable from paranoia.
How much so depends on how much evidence they try to present. The
more evidence they present, the more it becomes obvious that it's just
paranoia. Some of them only present verbal evidence; that is, they
describe the incidents of "gang stalking", and in their descriptions
it definitely sounds like the harrasment is obvious and real.
But I've seen some of them, trying to "prove" the "gang stalking"
using actual still pictures or video. Then it gets funny. It's like,
there's somebody who has walked across the street a half a block away
twice. And maybe this person looks towards the person with the camera
(the supposed victim of "gang stalking") so he's like "YOU SEE! HE'S
OBVIOUSLY PART OF IT!". Maybe, you fucking nut case, he looked up at
you because you are standing there pointing a camera at him, in
addition to whatever other weird body language goes with your
paranoia.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
Doctor: Who told you you are Napoleon Bonaparte?
Patient: God did.
Voice from next cell: I DID NOT!
:: Currently listening to River Euphrates, 1988, by The Pixies, from "Surfer Rosa"
Steve Thompson
>
> what's not to love about usenet
All the goddamn fucking retards?
Steve Thompson
Some say that stalking, at least as a group activity, is it's own
reward. Something like hunting animals in the wild, but with humans
in a contemporary urban environment, making it all the more
challenging. (Not as challenging as linear algebra or theoretical
physics, but still hard.)
I suppose if the putative useless fucking shit-for-brains asshats are
religious whack-jobs with severe mental problems, there is no real
need to rationalize the motives to understand that the "stalking"
occurs.
But I could be wrong. Why do you participate in lethally offensive information-
warfare excercises against civillians, Joe Cosby? Does it give you a
boner to prove your superiority in that fashion?
here...@yahoo.com
Why bother writing all that crap?
I guess you had release all the "sassiness" building up within... It's OK,
Stevie.
here...@yahoo.com
haha, you make some points Zapanaz.
Still,if you read and study the tactics they use, it is a form of
psychological harassment that has been perfected over decades by
psychologists. Its already documented these tactics have been used by
various group throughout the history of the world. The harassment and
gaslighting is done in such a way that it is very hard to prove. The target
becomes sensitized and hypervigilant, making him more open to covert
attacks. Any attempt to talk about it will make the target sound like a
paranoid schizophrenic, its tailored that way. Im sure some people who
think they are being gangstalking may just be paranoid and delusional. But
i also know what happened to me, and ive read testimony from others that
rings true.
I find it interesting, that you as a subgenius, find it hard to believe
that people would engage in these kinda of activities. Some think that
"targeted individuals" are almost like a scapegoat or modern day human
sacrifice. There is all kinds of info about bullying, workplace
mobbing(there are laws in europe now against this), but on a community
level, theres no way people would do it- right? Even though its happened
many times before in history. If you read the links- theres a number of
reasons why people do this, most of it going back to animal drives like
power, control, herd conformity, fears of being targeted themselves, hatred
of whats different etc
http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/United/index.php/Main/GSFAQ#QQuestions7
Q: Why people Gang Stalk (^)
A: There are a variety of reasons that a person would choose to take part
in Gang Stalking.
1. Some just like the power it gives them. They love to be able to
community mob and harass another human being without any apparent
consequences.
2. For some this is a form of sport, or an activity to do with friends.
It's a way to make friends and keep friends. It's something social and fun
for them to do. People love to play detective or spy and this is just one
way to live out that fantasy. It's also for many the ultimate 24/7 reality
entertainment.
3. Other are forced or black mailed into taking part.
4. Some seem to be part of the Citizen On Phone Patrol COPP or community
watch groups, however the use is being misappropriated. Some are lied to,
they are told that they are helping to keep and eye on dangerous
individuals.
5. Others are just local thugs or Informants who are already being used for
other activities, and their energies are just diverted over into gang
stalking. Eg. Some may be given the choice of gnag stalking vs going to
jail.
6. Others are told outright lies and slander about the target to get them
to go along with ruining the targets life.
So, because of my real life experinces, I know the people who are harassing
me are a large group that is well connected and well funded, thats why I
suspect at its root it may be govt and corporations. Possibly a way to
squelch dissidents, whistleblowers, and ensure groupthink.
Keep in mind there are disinfo agents out there, some of them will pose as
fake targets, trying to make real targets look even more crazy and
unbalanced, weakening their testimony. Yes after being targeted, anyone may
start seeming a bit crazy, thats how its engineered.
You think human monkeys wouldnt enjoy playing such games? Cmon...
here...@yahoo.com
Too true. While people from all kinds of backgrounds are invoved in this,
many of the main stalkers "foot soldiers" are blue collar types, others are
even less educated. Often they are from backgrounds that highly value
conformity. The gangstalking could be likened to a modern day stoning, or
witch hunt, in both cases the victim is often innocent or is being punished
too severely.
You should see the thrill some of the 'perps' get from doing this. Its a
power rush for them, and its like they are draining your life energy. Ive
read its addictive for them. Often the target is more intelligent or
talented or has something they are envious of. Truly despicable people, and
they arent rare. Human beings are herd animals, and its scary to think what
this society may turn into.
here...@yahoo.com
thats was really cool! ...oddly soothing in a way.
Zapanaz
What caused them to do this to you?
Do you have any actual proof that it's happening?
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
Let's all PUMMEL one another like IDIOT RETARDED *CHIMPS*!
:: Currently listening to Now or Never, by Elvis Presley/Eilert Pilarm
Rev. Ivan Stang
> here4...@yahoo.com hunched over a computer, typing feverishly;
> Thunder crashed, here4...@yahoo.com laughed madly, then wrote:
>
> >So, because of my real life experinces, I know the people who are harassing
> >me are a large group that is well connected and well funded, thats why I
> >suspect at its root it may be govt and corporations. Possibly a way to
> >squelch dissidents, whistleblowers, and ensure groupthink.
>
> What caused them to do this to you?
>
> Do you have any actual proof that it's happening?
>
Agent Zapanaz! This one is too close to the truth. Switch your people
to Target 16539a in Quadrant 19.
Harry
> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:08:00 -0700, Rev. 11D Meow! wrote:
> >> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:48:13 -0700 (PDT), the_dawggie wrote:
>
> >>> On Sep 13, 2:58 pm, here4...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >>>> Everyone, I beg you to look over these links. Fascism is on the rise in
> >>>> western democratic nations. And they tend to target anyone who is
> >>>> "different" in any way. I am a "Targeted Individual" and my life has
> >>>> been
> >>>> unjustly destroyed. This new program going on is similar to East German
> >>>> Stasi and KKK tactics. These people are Nazis, literally.
> >>>> The public needs to become aware of whats going on.
>
> >>> The world is a "Big Brother" society now. Shows that humans are shite
> >>> because they can be. I don't even like to leave my apartment.
>
> >> Its going to become even more "Big Brother".
>
>
> >>http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/30/police_raids/
>
> >>http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20080915/us_time/thearmystotallyseriousm...> thats was really cool! ...oddly soothing in a way.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
no matter how paranoid you are
they're doing more than you think.
SODDI
<here...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I find it interesting, that you as a subgenius...
As a SubGenius, I am trained to spot a gibbering brain-damaged loony within
2 sentences.
Tell us about the migraine rays.
here...@yahoo.com
> here...@yahoo.com hunched over a computer, typing feverishly;
> Thunder crashed, here...@yahoo.com laughed madly, then wrote:
>
>>So, because of my real life experinces, I know the people who are harassing
>>me are a large group that is well connected and well funded, thats why I
>>suspect at its root it may be govt and corporations. Possibly a way to
>>squelch dissidents, whistleblowers, and ensure groupthink.
>
> What caused them to do this to you?
>
> Do you have any actual proof that it's happening?
I think a big reason was whistleblowing, but im a weird person that couldve
been targeted for any number of reasons. Im a individualist, freethinker,
critical thinker, ive criticized the "system",organized religion etc talked
about the rise of psychopathy, have humiliated some deserving people in a
few confrontations, they wanted revenge possibly...was involved in some
crime when i was alot younger, never caught, have some very liberal views
on marijuana, prostitution etc. Pretty talented, high IQ, i had some
creative plans that may have been threatening to some...
this explains why some people get targeted:
http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2007/10/24/marks-letter-to-targets/
I dont have proof, but i am planning to start collecting some evidence that
will be substantial, or I wont show it. On youtube there is a woman who
actually got asylum in switzerland from her gangstalking in the US, by
using cameras and tape recorders as proof. Interestingly the stalking has
followed her, they say its pretty much worldwide. Ive read that non english
speaking, and non german speaking countries have less activity- like
France, Belgium, Sweden. I guess Switzerland, and the Netherlands are
german influenced...Maybe thats a load of crap though, theres reports from
all over the world, latin america, india, china...
http://www.youtube.com/user/gangstalkingwatcher
This guy was a scientist who got targeted, seems legitimate:
http://www.youtube.com/user/marsboy683
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isn't it great when someone crossposts a bunch of nothing all over the place
here...@yahoo.com
haha. ive never experienced 'directed energy weapons' but i wouldnt be
surprised if they used stuff like that. The technology exists, and we all
know what people are capable of. Its true my writing may be a bit stilted,
ive been affected by the harassment, being stressed and beaten down like
that over and over will affect your cognitive functioning. The wound is
never allowed to heal.
In closing, sod off soddi.
SODDI
<here...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:s8u0iy0nrh7e.17...@40tude.net...
In rebuttal, ooga booga kook-boy.
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Zapanaz
Thunder crashed, here...@yahoo.com laughed madly, then wrote:
>Interestingly the stalking has
>followed her
how surprising.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
Customer: My computer keeps telling me I performed an illegal
abortion.
:: Currently listening to You Could Have It So Much Better, 2005, by Franz Ferdinand, from "You Could Have It So Much Better"
Zapanaz
Thunder crashed, Zapanaz laughed madly, then wrote:
>here...@yahoo.com hunched over a computer, typing feverishly;
>Thunder crashed, here...@yahoo.com laughed madly, then wrote:
>
>>Interestingly the stalking has
>>followed her
>
>how surprising.
Really; if your options are to believe that an international,
well-organized conspiracy has followed her across the world to harass
her, or that she is imagining the harrasment, I think maybe it's time
for a reality check.
I spent a lot of time reading about the espionage agencies of the
world, their real-life exploits, when I was younger. (I was a James
Bond fan.)
Believe me, the most sophisticated and succesful intelligence
organizations of the richest countries in the world are not capable of
carrying on a scheme as complicated as what this implies, not by a
long shot.
You've got a massive network of agents doing this? And nobody has
noticed, for example, their financing? There hasn't been one single
leak, not one of these agents has decided to tell their story for a
lucrative book deal or whatever?
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
Saddam Hussein makes me think of a neighborhood soccer coach who smiles a lot when
the moms are there but then turns completely evil when they leave.
And he reminds them of omar sharif with blackheads so they always take
his side.
:: Currently listening to Eve ov Destruction, 1985, by Psychic TV, from "Godstar- Thee Director's Cut"
Steve Thompson
>
> Why bother writing all that crap?
It makes me feel powerful.
> I guess you had release all the "sassiness" building up within... It's OK,
> Stevie.
I tried Shout, but it couldn't remove the stains on my nice new shirt. So I post.
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> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 05:32:40AM -0600, here...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> Why bother writing all that crap?
>
> It makes me feel powerful.
>
>> I guess you had release all the "sassiness" building up within...
>> It's OK, Stevie.
>
> I tried Shout, but it couldn't remove the stains on my nice new
> shirt. So I post.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
wear a bib its much cheaper
Steve Thompson
> Too true. While people from all kinds of backgrounds are invoved in this,
> many of the main stalkers "foot soldiers" are blue collar types, others are
> even less educated. Often they are from backgrounds that highly value
> conformity. The gangstalking could be likened to a modern day stoning, or
> witch hunt, in both cases the victim is often innocent or is being punished
> too severely.
I confess that I haven't seen anyone use the word "gangstalking" until
recently. A search at Google brings up zero definitions for the term,
indicating that it's etymology is suspect. Decomposition obviously
gives us ambiguity as the term might refer to the act of stalking a
gang _or_ the phenomenon of a group engaging in stalking activities.
> You should see the thrill some of the 'perps' get from doing this. Its a
> power rush for them, and its like they are draining your life energy. Ive
> read its addictive for them. Often the target is more intelligent or
> talented or has something they are envious of. Truly despicable people, and
> they arent rare. Human beings are herd animals, and its scary to think what
> this society may turn into.
Well, I don't think you're referring to the same phenomenon that I am
concerned about. My peeve is related to organized, well-funded quasi-
military urban interdiction undertaken against identifiable
minorities, most often marginalized individuals. In some societies,
these groups use their occupations in civil service or business in aid
of thes activities in what has become a conditioned cultural
imperative of their specific ideological phenotype. In other words,
the behaviours in question are ritual and are then subject to the
usual sociological pressures towards conformity that are necessary for
belonging.
I could elaborate this in some detail, but we already know that
existing psychology and sociology is sufficient to identify the
well-known mechanisms at work.
Harry
> http://rathergood.com/my_car/
that's comforting.
Harry
just because you're paranoid doesn't mean
they're not out to get you.(bumper sticker)
here...@yahoo.com
That is a part of gangstalking/organized stalking. Some people within govt
positions, health care, mental health etc are a part of this. In fact there
are gangstalkers from all walks of life, but the "foot soldiers" are often
blue collar workers. The stalkers within the system are often able to
influence 'non members' to think what they want them to believe, through
various manipulations. Gangstalking does target ethnic/religuous minorities
and single women at a higher rate. There is speculation there is a new
cointelpro program targeting middle easterners and south asians, even if
they are not muslim.
http://www.campus-watch.org/article/id/1935
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbz6Cp-nVho
here...@yahoo.com
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 06:43:44AM -0600, here...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Too true. While people from all kinds of backgrounds are invoved in this,
>> many of the main stalkers "foot soldiers" are blue collar types, others are
>> even less educated. Often they are from backgrounds that highly value
>> conformity. The gangstalking could be likened to a modern day stoning, or
>> witch hunt, in both cases the victim is often innocent or is being punished
>> too severely.
>
> I confess that I haven't seen anyone use the word "gangstalking" until
> recently. A search at Google brings up zero definitions for the term,
> indicating that it's etymology is suspect. Decomposition obviously
> gives us ambiguity as the term might refer to the act of stalking a
> gang _or_ the phenomenon of a group engaging in stalking activities.
>
Zero definitions? If you search Google for gangstalking, I got "about
67,500" hits.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=gangstalking&btnG=Search
Its also called 'organized stalking'(25,600 hits) "cause stalking"(5130
hits) and "multistalking"(328 hits)
A related phenomena is "workplace mobbing", which is a growing problem,
laws have been passed in some european countries.
here...@yahoo.com
> Zapanaz hunched over a computer, typing feverishly;
> Thunder crashed, Zapanaz laughed madly, then wrote:
>
>>here...@yahoo.com hunched over a computer, typing feverishly;
>>Thunder crashed, here...@yahoo.com laughed madly, then wrote:
>>
>>>Interestingly the stalking has
>>>followed her
>>
>>how surprising.
>
> Really; if your options are to believe that an international,
> well-organized conspiracy has followed her across the world to harass
> her, or that she is imagining the harrasment, I think maybe it's time
> for a reality check.
>
> I spent a lot of time reading about the espionage agencies of the
> world, their real-life exploits, when I was younger. (I was a James
> Bond fan.)
>
Cmon Zapanaz, old James Bond books are not going to give you much insight
to this situation. The harassers are citizen informants, the "eyes and
ears" of the state. Its very easy to track anyone these days, if you have
some info on their laptop or their cell phone number, they can be tracked
by GPS. The microphone can be turned on remotely as a bug, without the
phone being turned on.
Heres a recent case of this technology being used:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5UBOIcK5_s
Its employed and unemployed people that work as 'civilian spies' for the
government that are doing the harassment. Many enjoy perks and rewards for
their participation not to mention things like getting a power trip from
it. I dont see it as farfetched at all,this has happened before in
different time/place in history.
http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/category/civilian-spies/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2133029.stm
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,540771,00.html
http://www.amazon.com/Snitch-Culture-Citizens-Turned-State/dp/0922915636
Its very easy to track someone around the nation or even world when you
know the name they go by, what they look like, personality traits, social
security number, credit card info etc. They can be tracked by cell phone or
laptop gps. If needed a tracker could be put on their vehicle.
I do believe a 'TI' could possibly disappear and start a new life, like a
wanted fugitive might do...get a new identity, change appearance etc, but
it will be just as difficult to pull off.
If you educate yourself on gangstalking, citizen policing, youll see its
not farfetched at all.
>
> You've got a massive network of agents doing this? And nobody has
> noticed, for example, their financing? There hasn't been one single
> leak, not one of these agents has decided to tell their story for a
> lucrative book deal or whatever?
The financing is partially done through layers of govt programs, 'weed and
seed' 'C.O.P.P' etc. Also there are connections to corporations and
organized crime for financing.
There is some 'inside' info about a so-called 'syndicate' on the bottom of
this page.
http://www.whatisgangstalking.blogspot.com/
They say that this phenomena has always been buried in the mainstream
media, due to it being ingrained in the system. For journalists its called
"the buzzsaw". They say many doctors, lawyers, know about it and turn a
blind eye. So I dont think 'spilling the beans' would be advantaguous for
someone, unless he was on his death bed, with no relatives(they would go
after relatives for revenge)
There is a book "cause stalking" written by a PI. He makes good insights,
but stresses that the government is not involved, its well financed hate
groups, some TI's believe this could be disinformation. He says some police
are afraid of these groups, as they are that powerful...i dont know. Most
targets believe the govt/corporations are ultimately behind it, and they
manipulate,secretly finance and use various groups as needed.
http://www.amazon.com/Cause-Stalking-David-Lawson/dp/0970309252
Steve Thompson
> That is a part of gangstalking/organized stalking. Some people within govt
> positions, health care, mental health etc are a part of this. In fact there
> are gangstalkers from all walks of life, but the "foot soldiers" are often
> blue collar workers. The stalkers within the system are often able to
> influence 'non members' to think what they want them to believe, through
> various manipulations. Gangstalking does target ethnic/religuous minorities
How is "gangstalking" different from the Pheonix-program style PSYOPS?
> and single women at a higher rate. There is speculation there is a new
> cointelpro program targeting middle easterners and south asians, even if
> they are not muslim.
Cite?
Steve Thompson
Yes, but there are no _definitions_ of the term in online dictionaries
yet. Therefore the neologism is entirely colloquial, and possibly the
product of someone's cointelpro agitprop.
> A related phenomena is "workplace mobbing", which is a growing problem,
> laws have been passed in some european countries.
Yeah, that'll work.
Toilet Peppermintman
> oh boy , look at all the groups this goes to , hi everybody ,
> isn't it great when someone crossposts a bunch of nothing all over the place
>
>
>
> here4...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 06:44:43 -0700, Zapanaz wrote:
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yeah, It has even reached Toppalandia...
Sir Studly Spanksalot OBE
> That is a part of gangstalking/organized stalking. Some people within govt
> positions, health care, mental health etc are a part of this. In fact there
> are gangstalkers from all walks of life, but the "foot soldiers" are often
> blue collar workers.
WORLDWIDE MAD DEADLY GANGSTER COMPUTER GOD!!
Harry
There are of course those who believe that the mental health system is
for control
more than treatment.One gets labelled for life.like the song,"there's
no way out of here,
once you come in you're in for good."
Zapanaz
It's moving to see how many of you have escaped the mental health
system. You go!
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
Did you bring enough nuclear weapons for THE WHOLE CLASS, Johnny?
:: Currently listening to Sonata in A major, K.331 - Menuetto, 1782, by Mozart/William Kanengiser, from "Rondo Alla Turka"
Harry
> Harry hunched over a computer, typing feverishly;
> Thunder crashed, Harry laughed madly, then wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Sep 23, 8:22 pm, Sir Studly Spanksalot OBE
> ><SirStudlySpanksa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sep 23, 2:49 am, here4...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >> > That is a part of gangstalking/organized stalking. Some people within govt
> >> > positions, health care, mental health etc are a part of this. In fact there
> >> > are gangstalkers from all walks of life, but the "foot soldiers" are often
> >> > blue collar workers.
>
> >> WORLDWIDE MAD DEADLY GANGSTER COMPUTER GOD!!
>
> >There are of course those who believe that the mental health system is
> >for control
> >more than treatment.One gets labelled for life.like the song,"there's
> >no way out of here,
> >once you come in you're in for good."
>
> It's moving to see how many of you have escaped the mental health
> system. You go!
>
> --
> Zapanaz
> International Satanic Conspiracy
> Did you bring enough nuclear weapons for THE WHOLE CLASS, Johnny?
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
You can't tell the patients from the normals anymore sometimes
Rev. Red Hot Lava
oh yeah...
%
when did you first notice you had this disability
here...@yahoo.com
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:49:27AM -0600, here...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> That is a part of gangstalking/organized stalking. Some people within govt
>> positions, health care, mental health etc are a part of this. In fact there
>> are gangstalkers from all walks of life, but the "foot soldiers" are often
>> blue collar workers. The stalkers within the system are often able to
>> influence 'non members' to think what they want them to believe, through
>> various manipulations. Gangstalking does target ethnic/religuous minorities
>
> How is "gangstalking" different from the Pheonix-program style PSYOPS?
>
Some believe they are closely related. IMO, they are, most gangstalking
probably has its roots with the govt/corporations- "military industrial
complex'. Definitely gangstalking uses many of the same tactics as phoenix
psyops.
Its possible there are some people doing gangstalking who could just be
criminals for hire, or hate groups, and they are not involved with the
govt, its hard to tell. Ive talked with people who have worked in the
govt,were whistleblowers, who are now targets. Ive also talked with people
who are 99% sure the govt isnt involved, that they are dealing with
criminals for hire or some gang.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3225.htm
http://www.monarchnewphoenix.com/
>> and single women at a higher rate. There is speculation there is a new
>> cointelpro program targeting middle easterners and south asians, even if
>> they are not muslim.
>
> Cite?
>
Well obviously there is no official info on the 'new cointelpro', as
cointelpro is a 'black ops', hidden program. But there are numerous
articles on it:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/TAI410A.html
http://www.archives2005.ghazali.net/html/dr__bazian.html
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=64708&st=0&#entry6853782
here...@yahoo.com
True, i think it is moving more in that direction here in the US.
Especially in fascist regimes the mental health system has been used a tool
of control and oppression. Ive dealt with mental health profesionals who
were a part of the gangstalking/community mobbing.
here...@yahoo.com
Just wanted to add this interesting article on Psychopathy and its
relevance:
http://mwcnews.net/content/view/22382/26/
And this one about Orwellian "fusion centers"
Rev. Red Hot Lava
last year, now the whole area is gone strange and all i can do is get
sly with it, multiple attempts on my sanity and they even put a disney
ball on my car which I have no explanation for. Personally they are
scared of me, and I've fallen into feeling pity for them, but i'm
pretty sure they just want to see me dead. A catholic friend of mine
said I was being offered the opportunity to be martyred.
Rev. Red Hot Lava
> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 03:29:51 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:05:49AM -0700, wrote:
> >> Karmic hunched over a computer, typing feverishly;
> >> Thunder crashed, Karmic laughed madly, then wrote:
>
> >>>On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 05:41:52 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote:
>
> >>>> On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 07:24:31AM -0600, here4...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:57:03 -0700, Zapanaz wrote:
>
> >>>>>> here4...@yahoo.com hunched over a computer, typing feverishly;
>
> >>>>>>>On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:19:53 -0400, SODDI wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> I'm sorry, the NWO can't come out and play with you, Timmy.
>
> >>>>>>>> Shouldn't you be in bed?
>
> >>>>>>>You can laugh about it now, but just wait...
> >>>>>>>These things going on are warning signs, faint rumblings. Americans are
> >>>>>>>slowly losing their rights and privacy. Maybe someday it will be you who is
> >>>>>>>a "target" with no privacy.
>
> >>>>>> Are you the guy who thinks everybody who walks by the street you live
> >>>>>> on is actually an MI6 spy? Or is that somebody else?
>
> >>>>> Nope, that guy seemed loopy, but its not impossible he was being targeted.
> >>>>> Being targeted makes you seem crazy which is what they want.
>
> >>>> I think it is interesting that the people who report they are being
> >>>> hounded by spy agencies are generally those who have very little else
> >>>> going for them. I don't know why spy agencies target these
> >>>> individuals, and I don't care. I just wish they would allocate those
> >>>> assets to operations against serial killers, terrorists, fanatical
> >>>> religious extremists, or at least unethical buisnessmen.
>
> >>>> Regards,
>
> >>>> Steve
>
> >>>I agree Steve, but with psychopaths consolidating their power what can you
> >>>do? People who are targeted often have certain traits in common. First off
> >>>they are individuals. Many are high intelligence, and have integrity and
> >>>ethics which is a combo they cant stand.The powers that be prefer to go
> >>>after people who are easy targets, vulnerable, its an easier, cleaner
> >>>'kill' for them. Nip them in the bud, before they might become a "problem".
> >>>Although they have destroyed and ruined high profile people as well, Jean
> >>>Seberg is one example. Many whistleblowers have had their lives ruined, but
> >>>its swept under the rug.
>
> >>>http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2007/10/24/marks-letter-to-targets/
>
> >>>They use whatever groups they can to do the dirty work- the harassment etc.
> >>>unmonitored citizens groups, church groups,kkk,extremists, bikers, gangs,
> >>>illegal , homeless etc
> >>>But i believe that at the the root of this is psychopaths in power, and
> >>>their longterm agenda. They are just moving the chess pieces towards the
> >>>goal of total domination. Even people involved in these activities dont
> >>>know(and dont care) about the big picture.
>
> >> A few other things I've noticed they all tend to have in common:
>
> >> 1. There is no real rational earthly reason that they would be the
> >> target of what, if it really existed, would be an extremely expensive
> >> and laborious exercise in harrasment. The supposed victim can tell
> >> you what the reasons are, and to the supposed victim the reasons seem
> >> to make sense, but to a third party they don't sound like "reasons" at
> >> all.
>
> >> What you say above about victims tending to have "intelligence and
> >> integrity, a combination which THEY can't stand", is a good example.
> >> You really think that a conspiracy of evil people are going to spend
> >> hours of their time and tens of thousands of dollars worth of
> >> man-hours stalking you because they notice that you "have intelligence
> >> and integrity", and that just infuriates them? It isn't a reason at
> >> all, it's a persecution complex phrased as a reason.
>
> >> 2. Their descriptions of "being stalked", if you look at them
> >> closely, are indistinguishable from paranoia.
>
> >> How much so depends on how much evidence they try to present. The
> >> more evidence they present, the more it becomes obvious that it's just
> >> paranoia. Some of them only present verbal evidence; that is, they
> >> describe the incidents of "gang stalking", and in their descriptions
> >> it definitely sounds like the harrasment is obvious and real.
>
> >> But I've seen some of them, trying to "prove" the "gang stalking"
> >> using actual still pictures or video. Then it gets funny. It's like,
> >> there's somebody who has walked across the street a half a block away
> >> twice. And maybe this person looks towards the person with the camera
> >> (the supposed victim of "gang stalking") so he's like "YOU SEE! HE'S
> >> OBVIOUSLY PART OF IT!". Maybe, you fucking nut case, he looked up at
> >> you because you are standing there pointing a camera at him, in
> >> addition to whatever other weird body language goes with your
> >> paranoia.
>
> > Some say that stalking, at least as a group activity, is it's own
> > reward. Something like hunting animals in the wild, but with humans
> > in a contemporary urban environment, making it all the more
> > challenging. (Not as challenging as linear algebra or theoretical
> > physics, but still hard.)
>
> Too true. While people from all kinds of backgrounds are invoved in this,
> many of the main stalkers "foot soldiers" are blue collar types, others are
> even less educated. Often they are from backgrounds that highly value
> conformity. The gangstalking could be likened to a modern day stoning, or
> witch hunt, in both cases the victim is often innocent or is being punished
> too severely.
> power rush for them, and its like they are draining your life energy. Ive
> read its addictive for them. Often the target is more intelligent or
> talented or has something they are envious of. Truly despicable people, and
> they arent rare. Human beings are herd animals, and its scary to think what
> this society may turn into.
i can scare the living crap out of my town at any time
Rev. Red Hot Lava
> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:34:12 -0400, SODDI wrote:
> > <here4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> I find it interesting, that you as a subgenius...
>
> > As a SubGenius, I am trained to spot a gibbering brain-damaged loony within
> > 2 sentences.
>
> > Tell us about the migraine rays.
>
> haha. ive never experienced 'directed energy weapons' but i wouldnt be
> surprised if they used stuff like that. The technology exists, and we all
> know what people are capable of. Its true my writing may be a bit stilted,
> ive been affected by the harassment, being stressed and beaten down like
> that over and over will affect your cognitive functioning. The wound is
> never allowed to heal.
>
> In closing, sod off soddi.
build your own and piss back at them www.amazing1.com
David
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Rev. Red Hot Lava
??? you mean possessed by? possibly i entertained that thought
experiment for a while
David
Rev. Red Hot Lava
> visit your daughter at boot camp
???
David
???
yeah, that
Rev. Red Hot Lava
> "Rev. Red Hot Lava" <zevillkaa...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:c96df463-88fc-4f43...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 30, 8:24 am, "David" <dvd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > visit your daughter at boot camp
>
> ???
>
> yeah, that
well i resolutely refuse to accept any old soul into my vessel as my
present soul is ever sharpened and shiny. See as an antichrist I'm
pretty resolutely against the passing on of old souls to young ones
via this silly voodoo stuff. I mean it works so far as one believes in
it, is on it's "frequency", but it just ain't enough for me, life is
too big and interesting to be wasting it sucking on a fucking dead
guys finger.
Unless theres some profit in it for me, all I can say is the dead
should stay dead and leave the living AND the young alone.
Jack can go fuck himself. Jerry fought back and Jerry won.
Smiles all around.
Rev. Red Hot Lava
wrote:
No seriously i really don't remember what it is you're talking about
though I'd really and strongly like to make arrangements for doing so.
Which bootcamp? What daughter? What the hell is going on?