Re: Australia - now world's biggest polluter
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On Sep 17, 7:07 am, "argue the facts" <fa...@argue.the> wrote:
> "addinall" <addin...@addinall.org> wrote in message
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> On Sep 16, 10:38 am, addinall <addin...@addinall.org> wrote:
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> > On Sep 16, 10:09 am, netvegetable <notrealem...@all.com> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:38:34 +0930, |||| | | || ||| || |||| wrote:
> > > > "netvegetable" <notrealem...@all.com> wrote in message
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> So why aren't you greenies pushing to use this technology?
>
> Mark Addinall.
>
> Two out of three Australians will develop skin cancer, and an estimated
> 1,000 die from it every year. Australia is the only country in the world
> which "nuked" own citizen 50 years ago and will continue to do it for
> future
> 24,000 years due to Maralinga legacy.
>
> Climate change is happening � and governments and corporations are being
> forced to respond to a consensus of scientists worldwide, and a strong
> global movement taking action to avert dangerous climate change. In
> Australia, the nuclear industry and other pro-nuclear advocates have been
> quick to reinvent nuclear power as "clean, green and safe" and a
> "solution"
> to climate change. But nuclear power is no solution to climate change: it
> is
> too dangerous, too costly, too slow and makes little impact on greenhouse
> pollution. That is why most of the industrialised world is rejecting the
> nuclear option in favour of renewable energy and improved efficiency.
>
> With 40% of the world's known uranium reserves in Australia, however, the
> Federal Government and other nuclear industry players are keen to cash in
> on
> the recent enthusiasm for nuclear power.
>
> The patterns of short-sightedness and discrimination that characterised
> the
> Maralinga tests continue. In the 1950s, it is very likely that uranium
> mined
> in South Australia was sold to another country, and returned as bombs to
> be
> exploded on land not far from where it was extracted. Today, South
> Australian uranium is again being sent overseas, with a growing push for
> the
> subsequent wastes to be returned and dumped on Indigenous land in the
> Northern Territory. As the Federal Government looks to sell uranium to
> countries like China and India, there appears a very real risk that
> Australian uranium may again end up in warheads, as countries continue to
> allow the diminishing effectiveness of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation
> Treaty.
>
> Likewise, government and the nuclear industry's pattern of discrimination
> against Indigenous cultures can be seen today in legislation like the
> Roxby
> Downs Indenture Act. This Act allows BHP Billiton's operations at its
> Olympic Dam (Roxby Downs) uranium mine to supercede a variety of other
> crucial pieces of legislation, including the Aboriginal Heritage Act. The
> interests of the nuclear industry continue to be granted precedence over
> the
> legislated rights of Indigenous Australians.
>
> http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/stories/s105126.htm
>
> "Contractors have spent three years burying soil and rocks and clearing up
> old dumping grounds that have been contaminated with plutonium -- a deadly
> carcinogen that has a half-life of 24,000 years.
>
> The clean-up came after a royal commission in 1986 recommended the land be
> returned to its traditional owners for normal use.
>
> Over $100 million has been spent cleaning up the effects of the British
> nuclear tests...
>
> In the 1950s, the British exploded nine atomic bombs in the Maralinga test
> area.
>
> Although they were big, the final one was twice as powerful as the bomb
> that
> flattened Hiroshima.
>
> It was a series of smaller so-called minor trials that scattered plutonium
> across the desert.
>
> It was agitation from nuclear veterans and Aborigines that led to a royal
> commission and among its findings was that the British should pay for a
> clean-up of the land.
>
> But the human toll isn't as easy to deal with. So far, from the Australian
> Electoral Commission, there's over 9,000-odd people deceased from the
> 10,700-odd names listed on the Maralinga nominal roll.
>
> The national average for cancer is 25 per cent, but Maralinga, the death
> certificates are recording 75-80 per cent cancer."
>
> http://rex.nci.nih.gov/NCI_Pub_Interface/raterisk/rates24.html
>
> For males, incidence rates for all sites combined ranged from 493.8 per
> 100,000 in Tasmania, Australia, to a low of 59.1 in The Gambia. Rates for
> U.S. males were 351.3 for blacks (SEER) and 330.4 for whites (SEER).
> The largest ratios of the highest rates to the lowest rates in worldwide
> cancer incidence among males were for melanoma of the skin, nasopharynx,
> and
> larynx, with ratios of 289, 285, and 204, respectively. For melanoma of
> the
> skin, the area reporting the highest rate was the Australian Capital
> Territory with 28.9 per 100,000; the lowest rate, 0.1, was reported among
> Kuwaitis in Kuwait and among persons in Khon Kaen, Thailand.
>
> The worldwide range in lung cancer incidence among men ranges from a high
> of
> 119.1 in New Zealand Maoris to 1.0 per 100,000 in The Gambia.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nuclear_tests_at_Maralinga
>
> http://www.infognito.net/atomic-nuclear-test-maralinga/
>
> The Prime Minister of Australia, at the time, was Sir Robert Menzies, who
> before any testing had started, ordered the scientists overseeing the
> atomic
> testing, that no enviromentally negative results would be found!
>
> As a result of that order, any photos released to the public, tracking the
> course of the radio active clouds, were reversed if the cloud had
> travelled
> into populated areas. The official statements released said the radio
> active
> clouds were heading safely inland, where no one lived, (except for the
> Aboriginals of course!).
>
> Instead, the heavy nuclear fallout descended across Adelaide and covered
> all
> the countryside between the test site at Maralinga, to the city and
> coastline of South Australia. One of the men hired to measure the fallout,
> who was based in the centre of the city of Adelaide, found that the
> "click"
> rate (device used to measure radio active airborne particles) was 30,000
> per
> minute at one stage. This is a massive reading. His results were
> suppressed
> and only came to light about six years ago, through research done by an
> Australian, under the FOI rule, after its secrecy clause had elapsed.
>
> The nuclear fallout event occurred multiple times throughout South
> Australia, and also included fallout travelling across the State of
> Victoria
> and into its capital city, Melbourne.
>
> Basically, nearly the entire land mass of continental Australia and
> surrounding islands, have been contaminated with nuclear fallout, to
> varying
> degrees; from areas that are still too 'hot' for anyone to venture near,
> to
> where we all live and play today, the cities! Christmas Island, now called
> Kiribati, with its neighbours Samoa, Fiji, Vanuatu, Marshall Islands etc,
> all suffered major fallout.
>
> Now ask yourself this, why does Australia have a larger than average
> incidence of unusual diseases and cancers per head of population, compared
> with the rest of the world?
>
> Australia has three existing uranium mines � the Ranger Mine in the Kakadu
> National Park in the Northern Territory, and the Beverley and Olympic Dam
> (Roxby Downs) mines in South Australia. BHP Billiton is planning a $5
> billion expansion of the Olympic Dam mine to make it the largest mine on
> the
> planet, and Australia the largest producer and exporter of uranium in the
> world.
>
> http://www.mirror.co.uk/sunday-mirror/2008/02/03/crawling-to-their-de...
>
> Government scientists ordered British troops to crawl through radioactive
> fallout in a deadly series of experiments.
> They had to scramble on their hands and knees through the dust left by
> four
> nuclear bombs to "ensure as much contamination as possible gets on to
> their
> clothes".
>
> The scandal is revealed in documents from the Atomic Weapons Research
> Establishment released under the 30-year rule. They relate to Operation
> Buffalo, held in Maralinga, Southern Australia, in September and October
> 1956.
>
> Originally four nuclear bombs were going to be exploded, witnessed by 168
> officers and four civilians as well as 55 Australian troops and five from
> New Zealand.
>
> But at a War Office meeting in 1955 it was decided that making "extra use"
> of the troops by testing the effects of contamination on them would be a
> "bonus".
>
> Twenty-four of the men were split into three groups, each wearing a
> variety
> of uniform, including battledress, khakis and waterproofs.
>
> http://www.ccsa.asn.au/nic/NucHazards/SAweapons.htm
>
> The Olympic Dam mine at Roxby Downs has been exporting to nuclear weapons
> states since it began production in 1988.
>
> Contributions to nuclear weapons proliferation were made in the period
> 1945-1965 by:
>
> a.. The Department of Defense facilities at Salisbury and Woomera.
>
> b.. Nuclear weapons tests at Emu Plains and Maralinga
>
> c.. Uranium exploration by the Mines Department.
>
> d.. Uranium mining, principally at Radium Hill.
>
> e.. Uranium processing at Port
> Pirie.http://www.naa.gov.au/about-us/publications/fact-sheets/fs129.aspx
>
> Between 1952 and 1963 the British government, with the agreement and
> support
> of Australia, carried out nuclear tests at three sites in Australia � the
> Monte Bello Islands off the coast of Western Australian and at Emu Field
> and
> Maralinga in South Australia. An official history of the tests (JL
> Symonds,
> A History of British Atomic Tests in Australia, AGPS, Canberra) was
> published by the Department of Resources and Energy in 1985.
>
> http://www.smh.com.au/text/articles/2009/01/22/1232471496243.html
>
> A British government document written at the time suggested officials did
> not want the Australians linking the need for the thyroid tests to the
> blasts, even though the author described this as "fundamentally wrong".
>
> "We are in fact misleading our friends and endangering the goodwill that
> has
> been built up over so many years," the author wrote.
>
> Mr Browne said Britain had deliberately misled Australia about the effects
> of the tests.
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Aren't Australian cancer rates determined by the inclusion of southern
Australia in the opening of the ozone layer over Antarctica ?
We have been educated by the fact that Australian school children MUST
wear hats when going outdoors.
Therefore it is no surprise that Tasmania would have the highest skin
melanoma rates in the world.
Does this really have anything to do with the scattering of
radioactive
isotopes downwind of the Brit nuclear bomb range ?
You may be comparing apples with oranges, mate.
Cheers, David H
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From OP: "For melanoma of the skin, the area reporting the highest rate was
the Australian Capital Territory with 28.9 per 100,000;"
Australian Capital Teritory has no beeches, most of inhabitabts are properly
dressed public servants - so why people protected by clothes and European
trees planted everywhere in Canberra have the highest rate of skin cancer?
...You may be comparing apples with oranges, mate...
But, If you look at the map of downwind, Australian Capital Teritory got
very high proportion of radioactive dust.
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> On Sep 17, 7:07 am, "argue the facts" <fa...@argue.the> wrote:
>> "addinall" <addin...@addinall.org> wrote in message
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>> news:80351e98-60f1-441c...@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>> On Sep 16, 10:38 am, addinall <addin...@addinall.org> wrote:
>>
>> > On Sep 16, 10:09 am, netvegetable <notrealem...@all.com> wrote:
>> > > On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:38:34 +0930, |||| | | || ||| || |||| wrote:
>> > > > "netvegetable" <notrealem...@all.com> wrote in message
>> > > >news:nhUrm.9685$j34....@newsfe01.iad...
>> > > >> <http://tinyurl.com/q8y5fx>
>>
>> So why aren't you greenies pushing to use this technology?
>>
>> Mark Addinall.
>>
>> Two out of three Australians will develop skin cancer, and an estimated
>> 1,000 die from it every year. Australia is the only country in the world
>> which "nuked" own citizen 50 years ago and will continue to do it for
>> future
>> 24,000 years due to Maralinga legacy.
>>
>> Climate change is happening - and governments and corporations are being
>> Australia has three existing uranium mines - the Ranger Mine in the
>> of Australia, carried out nuclear tests at three sites in Australia - the