OCD fool needs advice badly
zaman...@yahoo.com
I hope someone can be kind enough to give me some advice, which
I need badly. After a traumatic experience when I was 16 years old, I
suffer from depression and OCD.
In my stupidity, to gain some 'insight' into my condition, I tried
various drugs, such as Magic mushrooms, cannabis, GHB and ecstasy. I
didn't gain much knowledge about my illness through the use of these
substances, but as a result my OCD has gotten much, much, worse, to
the point that every waking hour, I have to struggle wih it. So, to
get to the point,can anyone recommend a substance which might reverse
some of the damage done by the drugs I used, and alleviate the OCD?
I'm not even asking for the symptoms to be completely removed, but
just that the OCD is decreased in it's severity. I would strongly
prefer pills which have been tried and have been found to work for you
personally, as I think this is a more accurate way of knowing the
efficency of a pill.
Thanks for reading tihs,and on the off-chance that someone with
depression/OCD is reading this: DON'T try any drugs,like
cannabis,magic mushrooms etc to investigate your illness, as the only
net result will be that your illness gets much worse. A few moments of
pleasure are not worth months of agonising OCD.
Thanks for reading this and bye friends.
betai...@yahoo.com
eating disorders
seem to have some sort of common mechanism. You might try tablespoon
size doses of inositol powder since you are game of anything. First, I
suggest you
do a PUBMED search on the topic or even just a simple Google search
so get you to the relevant research. Inositol is a vitamin like
chemical.
Don't expect the same results from small doses of 2 or 3 grams, it
takes doses around 12 to 18 grams if one is at the edge of
a panic attack. To keep panic attacks at bay, a dose of
6 to 8 grams seems effective. How that correlates to OCD,
I can't be sure. Anyway, the inositol for my purposes in
my body is 100 percent effective.
I am not a Doc rather I am an inositol user.
Before you try anything including taking your next breath ask your
doctor so he can sneer at it and oppose it.
Nom dePlume
news:1183455670.5...@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> HI all,
> I hope someone can be kind enough to give me some advice, which
> I need badly. After a traumatic experience when I was 16 years old, I
> suffer from depression and OCD.
> In my stupidity, to gain some 'insight' into my condition, I tried
> various drugs, such as Magic mushrooms, cannabis, GHB and ecstasy. I
> didn't gain much knowledge about my illness through the use of these
> substances, but as a result my OCD has gotten much, much, worse, to
> the point that every waking hour, I have to struggle wih it. So, to
> get to the point,can anyone recommend a substance which might reverse
> some of the damage done by the drugs I used, and alleviate the OCD?
> I'm not even asking for the symptoms to be completely removed, but
> just that the OCD is decreased in it's severity. I would strongly
> prefer pills which have been tried and have been found to work for you
> personally, as I think this is a more accurate way of knowing the
> efficency of a pill.
The FDA-approved medications for OCD are these SSRIs
Luvox
Paxil
Prozac
Zoloft
and the tricyclic Anafranil.
SSRIs are the standard treatment of choice. Please talk to your doctor
(preferably a psychiatrist, instead of a general practitioner) about them,
and get started on feeling better soon.
--
Nom dePlume, Ph.D.
Why, yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist.
Guide to Medications for Mental Illness:
http://www.mentalmeds.org
=====
zaman...@yahoo.com
> zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote in news:1183455670.536564.322290
> @q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
> entheogenics could help someone gain insight into his problems.
>
> Was that traumatic experience some kind of intense shock that led to post
> traumatic depression perhaps?
>
> Anyway, I believe that SSRIs can be a major help under the guidance of a
> qualified doctor. Additionally, what acts against NMDA can offer
> significant help, like theanine, magnesium, phenibut (not on a daily
> basis), green and white tea. And that would explain why ecstasy aggrevated
> your condition, as it messes -badly- with serotonine and nmda and frankly I
> don't understand how it could help anyone in the first place.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
magic mushrooms, contain a substance called psylosibin, anyhow,what
the people who advocate using it for mental insight don't tell you, is
that this substance is neurotoxic. It destroys brain cells.
As for cannabis,everyone knows the effect on memory,and the increasing
number of people being admitted to mental wards due to the high
potency skunk.
I've tried various SSRI's,with little effect on either the OCD or
depression.
Thanks for the links to the substances which effect NMDA. But isn't
Phenibut related to GHB? GHB has caused so much ruin to me,that I'm
very scared of using anything remotely related to it. Can you tell me
if it can cause the same damage to one's life that GHB does?
I might as well tel you how the Depression started,seeing as I've
revealed so much about myself already:
It all started when I was 16,and first started masturbating,as a
result I started to suffer from intense urinary frequency,which lasted
all day long. This was very distressing, and it took me about 9 months
to overcome the urge to masturbate. As a result I fell into a deep
depression. Whether the urinary frequency was psychosomatic or some
physical ailment, I don't know.
After the time I stopped masturbating completely, I had no more
sexual urges at all. However,at the same time as this was going on, I
could not concentrate on my college work,and had other symptoms of
depression, such as anxiety, constipation etc etc.
What I don't get is that many people,during traumatic events,such as
wars/famines etc, lose their sexual drive,but it returns once the
trauma is over,and even if it doesn't return, it doesn't cause such
severe depression/OCD.
Even though I can masturbate/ejaculate without any trouble now,and no
more urinary problems, maybe my nind is still scared that sexual
arousal is linked with illness.
Thanks for reading this and thanks for your advice.
mrb74
Though I wouldn't take Phenibut, it is certainly something, I would
advise you to stay away from at this point. It can cause some odd
reactions and sometimes post session anxiety - for me anyway. As has
been mentioned, go see a good Doctor.
Good luck
~tanya
> HI all,
> I hope someone can be kind enough to give me some advice, which
> I need badly.
i'm kinda kind, but i ain't advice-worthy and i gotta big mouth so
it's'ah lethal combo.
> After a traumatic experience when I was 16 years old, I
> suffer from depression and OCD.
who said you had ocd? was it diagnosed? cuz ta be frank... i'm
growin'ah beard. J/K !!!!!!!!
BUT ta get ta brass tacks, how were you diagnosed? what kind'ah
testing?
> In my stupidity, to gain some 'insight' into my condition, I tried
> various drugs, such as Magic mushrooms, cannabis, GHB and ecstasy.
are ya sure ya did that for "insight", timothy leary?????
(sumbody tell me he did NOT say "cannibis." )
SATIVA? i think it's called weed here'n tha south... agin. and
dude? you ain't seen'ah psilocybin mushroom ever in yer life unless
yer orderin' from dominos. WHERE did ya get these shrooms and under
what conditions?
i'm tha queen'ah shoom-doggin' and i know yer'ah fuckin' liar.
ya think hallucinogenics are "cool, groovy'n right on, man?"... well,
yer an idiot if ya do.
> didn't gain much knowledge
insight... ya said "insight."
> about my illness through the use of these
> substances,
unbelievable. say it ain't so.
> but as a result my OCD has gotten much, much, worse, to
> the point that every waking hour, I have to struggle wih it.
do you have'ah J O B ?
> So, to
> get to the point,can anyone recommend a substance which might reverse
> some of the damage done by the drugs I used, and alleviate the OCD?
i can.
it's called DO SUMTHIN'... DO ANYTHING. JUST DO SUMTHING !!!!!!! I
DON'T CARE IF IT'S RIGHT, WRONG, OR SOCIALLY UNACCEPTABLY, DO
SOMEEEEEEETHINGGGGGG !!!!!!!!
> I'm not even asking for the symptoms to be completely removed,
OH, i knew that already.
i know perzactly what yer deal is.
> but
> just that the OCD is decreased in it's severity. I would strongly
> prefer pills
::shocked, feigned look::
> which have been tried and have been found to work for you
> personally, as I think this is a more accurate way of knowing the
> efficency of a pill.
i dunno whether ta ground ya or adopt ya.
but ya got no game, i hate ta break it to ya, dude.
you cannot have my adderal, it's for ADD as well as OCD and i don't
even medicate that shit anymore, it's becoming of feelin' like'ah
rat'n a cage, despite ALL MUH RAGE !!!!!!!!
> Thanks for reading tihs,and on the off-chance that someone with
> depression/OCD is reading this: DON'T try any drugs,like
> cannabis,magic mushrooms etc to investigate your illness,
thanks for tha heads up !
lookie here, white boy, we're all about tha same age here, a few
younger... and the younger folks don't diss us by pullin' shenanigans
ta further their habit. THEY SAY IT OUTRIGHT ! IT'S CALLED RESPECT,
AND YOU, MY BOY, COULD USE'AH LESSON OR TWO in tha "when tha shit hits
tha fan" department.
> as the only
> net result will be that your illness gets much worse. A few moments of
> pleasure are not worth months of agonising OCD.
that's so an addict talkin'.
sorry, but i can see skrait thru ya.
tha good news is: MY FAVORITE COLOR IS CLEAR !
so go with that for'ah while.
ya ain't made no points wimme, so far and i ain't'ah hate'ah. maybe
i'm just'ah cynical bitch, but i'm bettin' there's a few that saw tha
whimsical twinkle in yer eyes when ya hit "send".... on tha message
board.
trust me, i'm gonna check other forums ta see'f this exact post hasn't
been thrown up for grabs.
holy shit, i found sumbody worse than me at scammin' pills.
i didn't think it was possible.
> Thanks for reading this and bye friends.
toodles
~tanya
~tanya
> I will suggest that OCD, some types of anxiety, panic attacks, and
> eating disorders
> seem to have some sort of common mechanism.
i'm not sure i agree totally with that statement, but i see where yer
goin.
> You might try tablespoon
> size doses of inositol powder since you are game of anything.
DANG..... you remember inositol? yer old, too ! LOL
back'n tha day when ya had ta cut... inositol was tha event of tha
season.
> First, I
> suggest you
> do a PUBMED search on the topic or even just a simple Google search
> so get you to the relevant research. Inositol is a vitamin like
> chemical.
("B" complex, commonly called B8)
> Don't expect the same results from small doses of 2 or 3 grams, it
> takes doses around 12 to 18 grams if one is at the edge of
> a panic attack. To keep panic attacks at bay, a dose of
> 6 to 8 grams seems effective. How that correlates to OCD,
> I can't be sure. Anyway, the inositol for my purposes in
> my body is 100 percent effective.
are you sayin' that you use inositol to combat panic?
hmmmmmmmm
i've heard flax seed, that was'ah no go, but inositol???????
you really get results with that?
it correlates not at all to OCD, but we knew that, already. ya
should'ah said ADD... if ya want pure, unadulterated amphetamine.
i think ya kinda screwed up yer plan via ignorance, dude.
OOPS !
there's thousands of other forums you can thow down on'n practicin'
here was'ah good thing.
> I am not a Doc rather I am an inositol user.
inositol "user?" does inositol promote euphoria? cuz i'd'ah been
eatin' that shit on biscuits in tha mornin' if i'd known.
and lactose is another cut, i wonder does it getcha high, too.
and it was "cut" for'ah reason, there was'ah purity factor, and if yer
touchin' that skeet stuff out there taday, save yer money, go buy some
rat poison. yanno why they're called "bathtub drugs?"
BECAUSE THEY ARE !!
you scare me. i keep thinkin' "holy... what if he was MY kid." i
don't have any kids, i'm almost 50. but boy? you scare me. i'm
all'ah bout fun, tha edge, tha wild side, exploration, but it ain't
tha 70's no more, hunny bunny.
there is no counter-culture and nobody's safe, it ain't about no
peace, love'n see ya in tha funnies... it's about MISTAH BIG and tha
craws from tha tracks.
LISTEN to her !!!!!!!!!!!
she ain't about steerin' ya inta what yer lookin' for, she's about
navigatin' you safely thru sumthin' yer bound and determined ta goal
orient yourself to do, no matter what anybody says.
THAT, my friend, is reality... and tha sway of her words spell
"sadness" in my world, i could be wrong. i suspect she is a Mother.
i say ya might owe'ah lil debt of gratitude. like'ah "thank you."
>
> Before you try anything including taking your next breath ask your
> doctor so he can sneer at it and oppose it.
yer next breath... wow.
not one TIME did she say do this, don't do that, she knows the power
of tha skreet... and when it beckons, you WILL go.
that's real.
another statistic.
harsh.
*************** ~t
betai...@yahoo.com
> On Jul 3, 4:53?pm, betaine_...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > I will suggest that OCD, some types of anxiety, panic attacks, and
> > eating disorders
> > seem to have some sort of common mechanism.
>
> i'm not sure i agree totally with that statement, but i see where yer
> goin.
>
> > You might try tablespoon
> > size doses of inositol powder since you are game of anything.
>
> DANG..... you remember inositol? yer old, too ! LOL
Not only do I remember inositol, I know her mother.
>
> back'n tha day when ya had ta cut... inositol was tha event of tha
> season.
>
> > First, I
> > suggest you
> > do a PUBMED search on the topic or even just a simple Google search
> > so get you to the relevant research. Inositol is a vitamin like
> > chemical.
>
> ("B" complex, commonly called B8)
You want rare names try its first names: meat sugar, rat antispectacle
eye factor,
and mouse antialopecia factor. Or maybe those are the names
of pimps for the old TV show Starsky and Hutch.
>
> > Don't expect the same results from small doses of 2 or 3 grams, it
> > takes doses around 12 to 18 grams if one is at the edge of
> > a panic attack. To keep panic attacks at bay, a dose of
> > 6 to 8 grams seems effective. How that correlates to OCD,
> > I can't be sure. Anyway, the inositol for my purposes in
> > my body is 100 percent effective.
>
> are you sayin' that you use inositol to combat panic?
>
> hmmmmmmmm
>
> i've heard flax seed, that was'ah no go, but inositol???????
>
> you really get results with that?
>
> it correlates not at all to OCD, but we knew that, already. ya
> should'ah said ADD... if ya want pure, unadulterated amphetamine.
>
> i think ya kinda screwed up yer plan via ignorance, dude.
>
> OOPS !
Fear not, It just means you'll pay retail and get a knock off
analog to the real thing.
>
> there's thousands of other forums you can thow down on'n practicin'
> here was'ah good thing.
>
> > I am not a Doc rather I am an inositol user.
>
> inositol "user?" does inositol promote euphoria? cuz i'd'ah been
> eatin' that shit on biscuits in tha mornin' if i'd known.
Only if combined with the active drug to make snow.
Not that I do snow. Better put it in you morning coffee,
darling before you wander out in the noon day sun.
>
> and lactose is another cut, i wonder does it getcha high, too.
>
> and it was "cut" for'ah reason, there was'ah purity factor, and if yer
> touchin' that skeet stuff out there taday, save yer money, go buy some
> rat poison. yanno why they're called "bathtub drugs?"
>
> BECAUSE THEY ARE !!
>
> you scare me. i keep thinkin' "holy... what if he was MY kid." i
> don't have any kids, i'm almost 50. but boy? you scare me. i'm
> all'ah bout fun, tha edge, tha wild side, exploration, but it ain't
> tha 70's no more, hunny bunny.
>
> there is no counter-culture and nobody's safe, it ain't about no
> peace, love'n see ya in tha funnies... it's about MISTAH BIG and tha
> craws from tha tracks.
Just remember big government is watching you. This little
chat is being archived for furture generations.
>
> LISTEN to her !!!!!!!!!!!
>
> she ain't about steerin' ya inta what yer lookin' for, she's about
> navigatin' you safely thru sumthin' yer bound and determined ta goal
> orient yourself to do, no matter what anybody says.
>
> THAT, my friend, is reality... and tha sway of her words spell
> "sadness" in my world, i could be wrong. i suspect she is a Mother.
>
> i say ya might owe'ah lil debt of gratitude. like'ah "thank you."
>
>
>
> > Before you try anything including taking your next breath ask your
> > doctor so he can sneer at it and oppose it.
>
> yer next breath... wow.
>
> not one TIME did she say do this, don't do that, she knows the power
> of tha skreet... and when it beckons, you WILL go.
>
> that's real.
>
> another statistic.
>
> harsh.
Statistic naw, I am the guy who makes up
the numbers for others to follow.
>
> *************** ~t
Pramesh Rutaji
I would be tempted to try the amino acid L-Tryptophan. I used it to get off of
Paxil.
--
Pramesh - remove "tongue" to reply.
~tanya
> > > I will suggest that OCD, some types of anxiety, panic attacks, and
> > > eating disorders
> > > seem to have some sort of common mechanism.
>
> > i'm not sure i agree totally with that statement, but i see where yer
> > goin.
>
> > > You might try tablespoon
> > > size doses of inositol powder since you are game of anything.
>
> > DANG..... you remember inositol? yer old, too ! LOL
>
> Not only do I remember inositol, I know her mother.
WULLLL... *i" know she was too busy ta come to tha phone !
> > back'n tha day when ya had ta cut... inositol was tha event of tha
> > season.
>
> > > First, I
> > > suggest you
> > > do a PUBMED search on the topic or even just a simple Google search
> > > so get you to the relevant research. Inositol is a vitamin like
> > > chemical.
oh, i knew i was off-base, it was just'ah distant memory.
> > ("B" complex, commonly called B8)
>
> You want rare names try its first names: meat sugar, rat antispectacle
> eye factor,
> and mouse antialopecia factor. Or maybe those are the names
> of pimps for the old TV show Starsky and Hutch.
i kinda think they're tha same, only more costly.
except for starsky and hutch, they're pretty much free game, i hear
tell.
> > > Don't expect the same results from small doses of 2 or 3 grams, it
> > > takes doses around 12 to 18 grams if one is at the edge of
> > > a panic attack. To keep panic attacks at bay, a dose of
> > > 6 to 8 grams seems effective. How that correlates to OCD,
> > > I can't be sure. Anyway, the inositol for my purposes in
> > > my body is 100 percent effective.
inositol combats OCD? fa real? that's a new one. i'm lookin' inta
that.
> > are you sayin' that you use inositol to combat panic?
>
> > hmmmmmmmm
>
> > i've heard flax seed, that was'ah no go, but inositol???????
>
> > you really get results with that?
>
> > it correlates not at all to OCD, but we knew that, already.
well dang. i had muh hopes up.
> > ya
> > should'ah said ADD... if ya want pure, unadulterated amphetamine.
>
> > i think ya kinda screwed up yer plan via ignorance, dude.
>
> > OOPS !
>
> Fear not, It just means you'll pay retail and get a knock off
> analog to the real thing.
>
>
>
> > there's thousands of other forums you can thow down on'n practicin'
> > here was'ah good thing.
>
> > > I am not a Doc rather I am an inositol user.
>
> > inositol "user?" does inositol promote euphoria? cuz i'd'ah been
> > eatin' that shit on biscuits in tha mornin' if i'd known.
>
> Only if combined with the active drug to make snow.
> Not that I do snow. Better put it in you morning coffee,
> darling before you wander out in the noon day sun.
i'm confused. what's new.
> Just remember big government is watching you. This little
> chat is being archived for furture generations.
ut di oh.
> > another statistic.
>
> > harsh.
>
> Statistic naw, I am the guy who makes up
> the numbers for others to follow.
you make up the numbers?
(are you from the factory?)
ACKKKKKKKKK !!!!!!!!!!!
::shivers::
~t
justin
> magicmushrooms, contain a substance called psylosibin, anyhow,what
> the people who advocate using it for mental insight don't tell you, is
> that this substance is neurotoxic. It destroys brain cells.
Psilocybin is not believed to be neurotoxic. The National Institute
For Occupational Safety And Heath (NIOSH) actually rated typical
recreational dosages of psilocybin to be less toxic on the brain than
marijuana, smoking a cigarette, drinking a beer, or even taking a dose
of aspirin. You might also want to learn how to spell the name of the
chemical before you start lecturing on it.
~tanya
. ?You might also want to learn how to spell the name of the
> chemical before you start lecturing on it.
Bear Bryant couldn't play football. he did pretty well lecturin' them
boys on tha ins'n outs of it tho. ya THINK?