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Friend had Sleep Test.. showing 90% REM!
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gizmo100
Dec 13, 2005, 6:50:21 PM12/13/05
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A friend of mine who happens to be my girl friends brother just had a
sleep test because all his life who woke up tired and pretty much dragged
through the day, well actually he says he noticed it around the age of 6
or 7 but thought it was normal. He also says he has always been a vivid
dreamer. He recently had a sleep test done and the tech told him off the
record that his sleep showed almost 90% REM sleep in an 8 hour period. I
told him if that was true he should be dead by now if that was typical for
each night. He is almost in his 40s but looks younger but you can tell he
kind of goes through his days spaced out and unfocused. I would think he
would be dead by 50 if that continues unabated. Can't 90% REM each night
kill you? Anyone ever heard of that much REM? Are the ways to reduce REM
with herbs or Med?
sleep test because all his life who woke up tired and pretty much dragged
through the day, well actually he says he noticed it around the age of 6
or 7 but thought it was normal. He also says he has always been a vivid
dreamer. He recently had a sleep test done and the tech told him off the
record that his sleep showed almost 90% REM sleep in an 8 hour period. I
told him if that was true he should be dead by now if that was typical for
each night. He is almost in his 40s but looks younger but you can tell he
kind of goes through his days spaced out and unfocused. I would think he
would be dead by 50 if that continues unabated. Can't 90% REM each night
kill you? Anyone ever heard of that much REM? Are the ways to reduce REM
with herbs or Med?
Tim J.
Dec 13, 2005, 11:34:38 PM12/13/05
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:50:21 -0500, "gizmo100" <gizm...@peoplepc.com>
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90%????? Wow!!! My PSGs never showed more than 2-3%, one was a flat
ZERO. I didn't think 90% was possible. Sure as hell don't know what
effects it could have. I'll be waiting to see the responses.
Has his doctor gone over the results with him yet? If so, what did
(s)he say? Keep us posted please.
troy
Jan 2, 2006, 10:27:45 AM1/2/06
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Typically narcoleptics don't progress through the sleep cycles normally, and
will spend too much time in one or another. Usually narcos go right into
REM, but some get stuck in other stages too. There is no reason why he
should be dead because he is spending too much time in REM... don't tell him
that, that might scare him. REM is what the brain needs, so that is not
really a problem.
will spend too much time in one or another. Usually narcos go right into
REM, but some get stuck in other stages too. There is no reason why he
should be dead because he is spending too much time in REM... don't tell him
that, that might scare him. REM is what the brain needs, so that is not
really a problem.
Troy
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Tim J.
Jan 2, 2006, 2:18:58 PM1/2/06
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 10:27:45 -0500, "troy" <tdke...@comcast.net>
wrote:
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>Typically narcoleptics don't progress through the sleep cycles normally, and
>will spend too much time in one or another. Usually narcos go right into
>REM, but some get stuck in other stages too. There is no reason why he
>should be dead because he is spending too much time in REM... don't tell him
>that, that might scare him. REM is what the brain needs, so that is not
>really a problem.
Uh, I didn't say he should be dead because he was spending too much
time in REM. I think you are referring to the post I responded to.
Please attribute correctly.
S. St. Nick
Jan 2, 2006, 10:35:11 PM1/2/06
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"troy" <tdke...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Typically narcoleptics don't progress through the sleep cycles normally,
and
> will spend too much time in one or another. Usually narcos go right into
> REM, but some get stuck in other stages too. There is no reason why he
> should be dead because he is spending too much time in REM... don't tell
him
> that, that might scare him. REM is what the brain needs, so that is not
> really a problem.
>
I highly disagree, yes he does need REM but that much REM. 95% REM sleep
can ruin a mans life. That much REM will not allow him to get a restful
sleep. He probably goes through his waking state in a densed fog, with
concentration and other mental problems.
>
>
troy
Jan 7, 2006, 5:56:10 AM1/7/06
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Yes, but I don't think you can die from getting too much REM.
Troy
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TOCUTERA
Jan 9, 2006, 9:20:43 AM1/9/06
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yes that is alot of rem sleep I think my sleep test show about 80 or
75% of rem sleep there are lots of medacation they can put you on to
let you have a better nigts rest tell your friend to talk to his doctor
about xyrem it helped me alot, it has some strange side effects but
only if you wake up on it you shoul also ask him to talk to his doctor
about provigil its a simulant to keep you awake that also worked really
well for me.
75% of rem sleep there are lots of medacation they can put you on to
let you have a better nigts rest tell your friend to talk to his doctor
about xyrem it helped me alot, it has some strange side effects but
only if you wake up on it you shoul also ask him to talk to his doctor
about provigil its a simulant to keep you awake that also worked really
well for me.
TOCUTERA
Jan 9, 2006, 9:20:47 AM1/9/06
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TOCUTERA
Jan 9, 2006, 9:20:50 AM1/9/06
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Adriana Bookout
Jan 18, 2006, 2:34:20 PM1/18/06
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Well, I wouldn't think REM (rapid eye movement) sleep could cause death.
REM is an active period of sleep marked by intense activity in the brain
and rapid bursts of eye movements, which is when dreaming occurs and the
body is paralyzed. During the REM stage, the brain becomes very active.
This could be why your friend states he is a 'vivid' dreamer. I agree
that 90% REM in an 8 hour period is high, however in 'normal' sleeping
people (those without a sleep disorder), about 20% of sleep is REM
sleep. (So, if you sleep 7-8 hours a night, perhaps an hour and half of
that time, 90 minutes, is REM sleep).
The best way to answer this, would be from a certified physician -
preferrably one that specializes in sleep disorders. So your friend
should consult with the doctor that ordered the sleep study.
The symptoms you described, are those suffered from Narcolepsy. I have
been battling this disorder for many years and have not found any herbs
that help. I currently take Adderral to help with the daytime sleepiness
(there is also ritalin, but stopped working for me) and have just
recently started taking Xyrem (sodium oxybate) at night. This drug is
used to treat Narcolepsy patients who experience episodes of cataplexy,
which is a condition characterized by weak or paralyzed muscles.
However, it has not helped my cataplexy, but does offer me a nights sleep.
If your friend would like to correspond with someone that suffers from
from this disorder, or just needs someone to talk to, please let me know.
Adriana Bookout*
REM is an active period of sleep marked by intense activity in the brain
and rapid bursts of eye movements, which is when dreaming occurs and the
body is paralyzed. During the REM stage, the brain becomes very active.
This could be why your friend states he is a 'vivid' dreamer. I agree
that 90% REM in an 8 hour period is high, however in 'normal' sleeping
people (those without a sleep disorder), about 20% of sleep is REM
sleep. (So, if you sleep 7-8 hours a night, perhaps an hour and half of
that time, 90 minutes, is REM sleep).
The best way to answer this, would be from a certified physician -
preferrably one that specializes in sleep disorders. So your friend
should consult with the doctor that ordered the sleep study.
The symptoms you described, are those suffered from Narcolepsy. I have
been battling this disorder for many years and have not found any herbs
that help. I currently take Adderral to help with the daytime sleepiness
(there is also ritalin, but stopped working for me) and have just
recently started taking Xyrem (sodium oxybate) at night. This drug is
used to treat Narcolepsy patients who experience episodes of cataplexy,
which is a condition characterized by weak or paralyzed muscles.
However, it has not helped my cataplexy, but does offer me a nights sleep.
If your friend would like to correspond with someone that suffers from
from this disorder, or just needs someone to talk to, please let me know.
Adriana Bookout*
Ham Berger
Jan 19, 2006, 10:55:25 PM1/19/06
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Isnt Xyerem the Rave drug that kids were dying from?
What are the side effects, is it a long term use drug?
What are the side effects, is it a long term use drug?
Ham Berger
Jan 19, 2006, 10:59:00 PM1/19/06
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Adriana Bookout
Jan 20, 2006, 5:45:53 PM1/20/06
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I don't believe Xyrem is the rave drug - it is however, known as the
date rape drug (street name). Xyrem does have possible serious side
effects including: trouble breathing while asleep, confusion, abnormal
thinking, depression & loss of consciousness. The abuse of Xyrem can
also lead to dependency, craving (for the medicine), and severe
withdrawal symptoms.
date rape drug (street name). Xyrem does have possible serious side
effects including: trouble breathing while asleep, confusion, abnormal
thinking, depression & loss of consciousness. The abuse of Xyrem can
also lead to dependency, craving (for the medicine), and severe
withdrawal symptoms.
If you want further, more detailed information, you can go to:
www.fda.gov/cder/drug/infopage/xyrem/medicationguide.htm
Adriana Bookout
Jan 20, 2006, 6:10:40 PM1/20/06
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To answer the person requesting my feedback on Xyrem:
First, I will tell you that it is EXTREMELY salty, as it has quite a bit
of sodium - that was
very difficult to get used to and starting adding a little bit of orange
soda (sugar/caffeine
free).
The first 5-7 nights I took it, had some pretty wild side effects and
and almost stopped taking it.
However, I believe that they were so prominent, because I was waking too
soon (within
2 hrs) and was still under the effect of it's (highest) potency. Yes,
you are supposed to
set an alarm to wake you for the 2nd does within 2-4 hrs, but I think
the 2 hrs was too
soon for me, personally. Some of the side effects I experienced were:
extreme sweating,
sick stomach, headache, agitated, pain in legs, crying and on 2
occasions woke up coughing
and couldn't breathe.
However at the time, (previous to taking Xyrem) my cataplexy was so
severe and suffered
from getting only 3-4 hours of sleep per night. I would wake at least
6-8 times per night.
So I stuck it out and the side effects gradually diminished. Have been
taking it for a few
months now and have not experienced an improvement to my cataplexy, but
I am now able
to get a nights sleep (6-8hrs).
If you'd like any further feedback, etc. let me know.
Adriana*
First, I will tell you that it is EXTREMELY salty, as it has quite a bit
of sodium - that was
very difficult to get used to and starting adding a little bit of orange
soda (sugar/caffeine
free).
The first 5-7 nights I took it, had some pretty wild side effects and
and almost stopped taking it.
However, I believe that they were so prominent, because I was waking too
soon (within
2 hrs) and was still under the effect of it's (highest) potency. Yes,
you are supposed to
set an alarm to wake you for the 2nd does within 2-4 hrs, but I think
the 2 hrs was too
soon for me, personally. Some of the side effects I experienced were:
extreme sweating,
sick stomach, headache, agitated, pain in legs, crying and on 2
occasions woke up coughing
and couldn't breathe.
However at the time, (previous to taking Xyrem) my cataplexy was so
severe and suffered
from getting only 3-4 hours of sleep per night. I would wake at least
6-8 times per night.
So I stuck it out and the side effects gradually diminished. Have been
taking it for a few
months now and have not experienced an improvement to my cataplexy, but
I am now able
to get a nights sleep (6-8hrs).
If you'd like any further feedback, etc. let me know.
Adriana*
Hickabob McCrane
Nov 15, 2006, 8:03:03 PM11/15/06
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With that much REM I suspect his life span will be cut short considerably.
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