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Rob Duncan  
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 More options Feb 27 2005, 9:53 pm
Newsgroups: alt.support.mult-sclerosis
From: "Rob Duncan" <robdun...@gbronline.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 18:53:19 -0800
Local: Sun, Feb 27 2005 9:53 pm
Subject: Re: Good and Bad News!

"rose" <rosedawn_sc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:1109519418.300618.298340@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> Rob Duncan wrote:

>> > oncologist said not to expect to continue on schedule. i see the
> neur
>> > in a couple weeks, and i'm sure he'll be happy about the weight
> gain.
>> > fingers crossed that nothing weird starts happening in the
> meantime,
>> > maybe i won't have to wait as long as i'd feared to continue with
> the
>> > novantrone treatment!

>> > rose

>> Rose, its interesting you say that.  Recently I noticed I had two
> messages
>> in my "drafts" column.  The first was to Sylvia thanking her for the
>> gorgeous nudy pics of her,

> :->

> the second was a response to you for a weight
>> gain drink.  Would you like that I post it again?  Its a good one.
> Easy to
>> make, a tad expensive at first, but the ingredients last for a while,
> and it
>> goes to create lean body mass, and no fat.

> for real, rob? i've been on an insane 5,000-calorie-a-day 'diet' for so
> long i feel like a stuffed christmas turkey. the docs have had me
> supplementing with 'ensure' -- i use a generic with the same
> ingredients. the docs said that this would help me maintain more lean
> muscle mass because of the high protein conent.

Pardon my cursing, but that shits crap.

> would your recipe be better than the commercial stuff -- 'better' as in
> better at what the ensure is suppsed to do? I HAVE been losing muscle
> mass, and it's a major bummer.

Ensure is well martketed shit.  Pardon my cursing, but its technically the
proper word.  Yes, my recipe is better.

> i bet it would taste better than the protein drinks the docs have been
> recommending -- or at least hope so!  ;->

> a repost would be great; thanks, rob!
> rose

Well, Id deleted it, but Ill re-write it.

First, buy a large container of "Designer Whey" Protein.  (
http://www.designerwhey.com/  )  Then a large can of powdered lecithin.
Then, and you dont have to do this, but I would, buy a can of Creatine.
(the money is already starting to add up fast at this point.)  Buy a large
containor of Flax Seed oil thats high in Lignans.

This will last you quite a while.

For breakfast dump into a blender 2 cups milk, 1 scoop of the protein
powder, 1 tablespoon of granulated lecithin, one level teaspoon of Creatine,
and a tablespoon of the high Lignan Flax oil.  Blend for a bit until its
mixed together.  Or for a lot for a real airated smoothy type drink blend
for a long time. (I dont like that btw.  Why put all that air into it?  But
some do.  So try both ways)  Pour into a large cup.

Take your blender thing and fill it with water.  Put it back on the machine.
Blend for a bit.  Then pour it out.  Then set it in your sink and fill it up
again and let it sit.  That makes cleaning it a breeze.  Always do that, as
if that stuff dries, its hell to clean.

Drink.  Enjoy.  I would buy the plain chocolate.  Well... because its
chocolate.  The Vanilla tastes really good also.  Im not going to get into
the reasons for all the ingredients, but you need them and you WILL gain
weight.  I promise you that, on my soul.  This protein powder was developled
by a past aquantence of mine for this express purpose.  Gaining muscle-mass.
That it has all the other bonefied, scientifically verified benefits, is
simply a bonus.  An artifact of its origins and manufacturing process, if
you will.

Eating that much protein first thing in the morning not only alters your
metabolism, and insulin/blood glucose levels, its anobolic.  Meaning it
alters your bodies normal behavior.  It turns it towards creating muscle
mass.  It also alters your day long appetite patterns towards one where
youll crave protein rich foods over sweets and fats.  (proven many, many
times in studies)

Obviously thats more than a tiny little expensive can of shit.  But anyone
can drink 2 cups of anything unless theyre purposefully starving themselves.
So if it seems a bit much, take your time, you dont have to drink it all at
once.  Take fifteen minutes, a half hour, whatever.  Just drink it.

In the long run, buying all that and making your own, much better and more
nutritious protein drink, costs more.  But it actually works, where those
little tiny cans of crap accomplish nothing exept to keep a starving person
alive.  We want to progress, not just remain alive.

Have a real lunch.  Make yourself do it.  Eat a protein rich food with it.
Such as a big hunk of cheese or some fish, or tuna salad, or, well, a Burger
King Whopper without the mayo.  When youre as light as you are, theres no
point in watching fats a whole lot.  Being too skinny is worse than
consuming too many high cholesterol fats.  Our bodies, when not obese and
overeating, can handle cholesterol just fine.

I wouldnt take your vitamins at this time.  I would take them later in the
day, with your evening meal.  Limit your snacking until after your evening
meal, then, of course, snack all you want.  A lot of times people who are
too thin complain that they eat lots of calories, by snacking all day long.
Well, that doesnt cause a spike in insulin which is required to initiate the
anobolic process of rebuilding atrophied muscles.  You need to avoid
snacking until after dinner.  And trust me, you WILL develop one heck of an
appetite once you stick to that schedule... within a week.

The body has a mind of its own.  It will learn when its about to be fed, as
long as snacking is eliminated, and a very strong hunger will result prior
to breakfast, lunch and dinner.  You will wake up hungry, you will be hungry
before lunch, and itll happen again prior to dinner.  As long as you avoid
snacking throughout the day.

Theres no problem with low-blood sugar as these are slowly and over time
absorbed into your bloodstream.  So it cures that as well, if thats a
problem for you.  I cant stress enough, DONT SNACK, and always eat real
meals.  One way to add to this weight gain plan is to eat large toasted
bagels loaded with globs of yummy cream cheese.  The real kind.  Not that
1/3 less fat garbage satanic tasting fraud thats advertised as cream cheese.
Its not.  Its refuse from a sewage treatment plant.  Never buy that stuff.

I suppose I could get into the specific reasoning for each ingredient.  But
I wont.  Ill point you to medline if youde like to investigate all the
health benefits of each.  When I began lifting weights I went from an
astonishingly skinny 138lbs to over 185lbs.  (I was so thin my left lung
spontaniously collapsed twice and I had to have surgery to scar it to my
chest wall so it wouldnt happen again.)   I went from not being able to
benchpress a barbell with two 45s on it, to benching near 300lbs.  (I think
I was like 5lbs away)  I went from being only able to do 6 chinups, to doing
about 15, real slow up and down ones, with two 45lb plates hanging between
my legs from a strap around my waiste.  When I couldnt do anymore, Stef, or
her identical twin sister, would help lift me up to the top, and then jump
on my back and Id lower myslef down as slow as possible.  I was able to
squat well past 450 and could nearly deadlift 500lbs.  I have a VERY light
frame.  My biceps were near 16 inches while my wrists measure less than 7 in
circumfrance.

I accomplished all that... IN LESS THAN A YEAR.  So, I promise you... You
will gain weight.  (I wish it was easy for you to get to a pool so you could
exercise.  Exercise helps turn on the anobolic process within the muscle
cells themselves.  But in anycase, you will gain weight.  "IF" you make
yourself eat real meals at Lunch and Dinner.  Hard boiled eggs come in handy
as a protein food for those meals.

Rob
(Sorry for being so long-winded.)


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