Dang it! - Cosmetic blunder
KCat
the SPF stuff she recommended and I'm tired of the rash from running
errands in our sunny skies.
I make the mistake of asking about good moisturizers for sensitive
lupie skin.
I fall for the "$50 is a bargain" carp - "It lasts a long time."
I see "fragrance" low on the list of ingredients and figure "how bad
can it be?"
I open it, smell it, think "I can handle that".
I get it on my skin and now all I can smell is this darn perfumey
crud. I'm hoping I'll adjust. Otherwise I may call and whine to the
young woman who suckered me into this stuff.
Why do cosmetic companies think everything has to smell like a
wh***house?
It sure will last a long time if I can't use it. grrrrrrrr......
It's french so "money back gaurantee" is probably not gonna happen.
sigh... silly silly woman let vanity interfere with reason.
I did get my sunblock tho... It is thankfully *not* heavily perfumed.
I gotta admit, the moisturizer makes my skin feel like silk... I hope
I can adjust to it.
J Wootton
> Why do cosmetic companies think everything has to smell like a
> wh***house?
>
> It sure will last a long time if I can't use it. grrrrrrrr......
>
> It's french so "money back gaurantee" is probably not gonna happen.
>
> sigh... silly silly woman let vanity interfere with reason.
>
> I did get my sunblock tho... It is thankfully *not* heavily perfumed.
>
> I gotta admit, the moisturizer makes my skin feel like silk... I hope
> I can adjust to it.
LOL sort of..but please take it back. If it's affected you once, it'll do
it again.
By taking it back, you're making a statement and if they won't give you
$$$ back, tell them you'll be passing the word along to *all* people in
your support group (not to buy the product).
IMO
J
Janers
But I find that if you do not like a product to take it back and usually, and I
say usually they refund or give you something else to try.
Maybe next time ask if they have little swatches that you could smell or try on
the skin right there. They have them in department stores. Maybe give them a
hint.
I read somewhere lately that any type of sun block applied to the face needs
reapplied every 2 hours or less. Sometihing about the facial oils that make sun
block loose it potency. Now I use total block from www.dermadoctor.com
expensive but I like it. It is clear but you can indeed get the kind that has
tint to it. Shade to your skin yourself.
just my opinion here too.
For moisture on the skin, I use complete uv protection from Oil of Oley for
sensitive skin, fragrance free. Put that on first then the sun block from Derma
doc. I am very sensitive too and this works for me very well.
After all I am a lovely looking red head just like KCat.
snickers silently...
oh come on JOKE time..
We need more jokes...anyone got any...
hugs
janers
J Wootton
I luv's you girl ;-)
J
Beverley
totally guaranteed, no questions asked. Clinique is supposed to be fragrance
free.
I can't use anything with SPF in it and now they are sticking the darn stuff
in lip balms! Feels like someone rubbed my skin in fiberglass and I get a
rash from the SPF stuff!
Bev
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J Rogow
I've got some stuff I love to use, but only when I can put it on out on
the porch and sit there a few minutes until the stinky wears off.
J Rogow
Janers <roja...@bright.net> wrote in message
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> For moisture on the skin, I use complete uv protection from Oil of Oley
for
> sensitive skin, fragrance free. Put that on first then the sun block from
Derma
> doc. I am very sensitive too and this works for me very well.
> After all I am a lovely looking red head just like KCat.
> snickers silently...
> oh come on JOKE time..
> We need more jokes...anyone got any...
This "lovely redhead" breaks out with oil of oley (isn't that what they
use to grease the matador's legs to get them into those tiiiight pants?).
Sorry - I don't know any jokes - but lots of jokers<g>.
Jackie
What I really want to know is how did you get close enough to a display to
make a choice? I remember you saying that (like me), you take a deep breath
and then run past cosmetics counters.
Perhaps you just didn't run fast enough! BTDT
Jackie in California
(PS. Hi! and welcome to the new Jackie in the group.)
Lee Thompson-Herbert
KCat <kcdo...@ghg.net> wrote:
[...]
>I fall for the "$50 is a bargain" carp - "It lasts a long time."
>
>I see "fragrance" low on the list of ingredients and figure "how bad
>can it be?"
>
>I open it, smell it, think "I can handle that".
>
>I get it on my skin and now all I can smell is this darn perfumey
>crud. I'm hoping I'll adjust. Otherwise I may call and whine to the
>young woman who suckered me into this stuff.
>
>Why do cosmetic companies think everything has to smell like a
>wh***house?
>
>It sure will last a long time if I can't use it. grrrrrrrr......
This is why I compound my own skin cream these days. I still have to
buy my sunblock, but the moisturizer I make ends up costing less than
the cosmetic company brands and it has more of the active ingredient
that helps my skin. Borrage seed oil has anti-inflammitory properties,
but the stuff is expensive, so cosmetic companies put very very little
in their creams (or even less evening primrose oil). Anyway, the big
advantage to making my own is that I know exactly what's in it. No
nasty parabens, no perfumes, no mineral oil, and no fancy botanicals that
I'm allergic to.
My biggest expense was buying a new blender dedicated to making
cosmetics, since I don't really wanna use the same one we have for
food. If folks are interested, I'll post the simple method for making
your own skin cream.
--
Lee M.Thompson-Herbert l...@retro.com KoX 1995, SP4
Head Muso, White Rats Morris
Member, Knights of Xenu (1995). Chaos Monger and Jill of All Trades.
"A head-on collision between Morticia Adams and Martha Stewart"
Sherry
When I was "home" last time a freind of my sister's was getting into the
make your own makeup to the point of using a beet for lipstick and blush.
(but not everyones color..LOL)
Thank you in advance.
Sherry
Lee Thompson-Herbert
Sherry <ssto...@inreach.com> wrote:
>I would love to know the recipe for your skin cream.
>When I was "home" last time a freind of my sister's was getting into the
>make your own makeup to the point of using a beet for lipstick and blush.
>(but not everyones color..LOL)
Okay, the basic idea for a cream is that you're going to be mixing
oil and water components at about 1:1. So how do you keep it from
becomming a messy glop? You need an emulsifier. Beeswax is a great
emulsifier for creams. I also use an "emulsifying wax" that's vegetable
based. Be sure your source says it's vegetable based if you want to use
that instead.
So for the water components, you can use any of the following:
purified water
spring water
floral waters or hydrosols
aloe vera juice
I personally use a mixture of neroli (orange blossom) and chamomile
hydrosols. If I'm just making for myself, I may also add a tiny bit
of aloe vera juice. Always check and make sure you're not allergic to
your ingredients before you use them in a mix.
For the oil-based components, you can use:
Olive oil
Almond oil
Carrot oil (expensive and it's orange)
Hemp oil
Borrage oil
coconut oil
cocoa butter
vitamin E
You'll be melting the solid fats along with your wax, so measure after
it's liquified. I use a mixture of roughly 1/2 olive oil and 1/2 borrage
oil, with a little bit of vitamin E oil and cocoa butter added.
So, with all that said, your basic recipie is:
1 cup water
1 cup oils
3/4oz beeswax or emulsifying wax (~2-1/2 Tablespoons)
30-50 drops of essential oils (optional)
Don't cut this recipie, since there won't be enough liquid for your blender
blades to work into a thickened cream.
Take your pyrex measuring cup and add your oils and beeswax. Either use
the microwave to heat up the mixture and melt the wax, or place the
measuring cup in a small saucepan full of water (double-boiler method).
You want to melt the wax, but not over-heat it. Set it aside, because it
will need to cool off a little.
Pour your water-based mixture into the blender. You want it to be at least
room temperature, maybe a little warmer. Here again, this is a good place
to use the microwave to heat it to lukewarm temperature before you put it
in the blender. Put the lid on your blender, with the top hole open.
Set a wide-mouth funnel into the hole on the blender lid. This will let
you add the oil without it slashing. When the oil mixture has cooled enough
to turn cloudy and there's a film of hardened wax along the edge of the cup,
it's ready. Turn the blender on High and slowly, slowly drizzle the oil/wax
mixture into the water. If you add the mixture while it's too hot, it won't
harden soon enough. You want to add the oil steadily, not in big globs, just
like making mayonaise.
When you've added maybe 3/4 of the oil, it'll start to harden. This is a
good point to use a chopstick to *carefully* stir the mixture on the edges.
Don't get near the blades. Keep adding your oil/wax mixture slowly. At
some part it will become too stiff to take any more oil. Sometimes, you'll
have some water left at the top after all your mixing. If it seperates to
the top, carefully pat it away with a paper towel or pour it off. If all
the water is incorporated but the mixture hasn't stiffened, consider that
your mixture may be too warm. I've saved at least one batch by popping the
whole pitcher into the freezer for 2 minutes to cool it down.
Okay, so now you have a cream. This is the point you'd add your essential
oils, if you were going to add any. I add a special mixture to mine to
help preserve it and soothe my skin. Make sure you know your own allergies
before you try this:
essential oils of
grapefruit, lavender, rosemary, cedar, petitgrain, peppermint, clove
I only add about 25 drops to a batch, which doesn't give it much scent.
Turn the blender on again for about 30 seconds to mix the essential oils
into the cream. Try not to overwhip it.
Pour/scrape your cream into wide-mouthed jars. A rubber spatula is helpful
at this point. Store all the unused jars in the refrigerator. I've found
it lasts at least 6 months in the fridge. I haven't kept any batches longer,
since my mother also uses this stuff. She's overjoyed that her face stopped
breaking out and peeling and panics if she runs out. ;}
Have fun. You can try different floral waters/hydrosols and essential
oils. Lavender flower water works quite well, too. I'm allergic to rose,
so I've never made the traditional rosewater cream that I adapted into
this recipie.
Beverley
Where do you get things like borage oil and other essential oils?
Bev
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Janers
your "Bull"
'
got ya
janers
Lee Thompson-Herbert
Beverley <potti...@sybercom.net> wrote:
>That is so cool!
>Where do you get things like borage oil and other essential oils?
I have three sources I buy from. You can get borrage oil from:
http://www.from-nature-with-love.com/soap/ (look under "fixed oils")
and
http://www.essentialoil.net/
The second one, Camden-Grey, has a minium order of $25. They also have
the best prices. It's also the only place I've found Camomile hydrosol.
A third source for essential oils and hydrosols is:
http://www.lavenderlane.com/
They also sell kits and recipie books, as well as a lot of neat glass and
plastic containers.
KCat
redness to indicate that kind of problem
but I did go to bed with a migraine and those are often triggered by
perfumes.
The manufacturer was less than helpful. I'll probably call the
"esthetician" today to let her know there may be a problem.
it may well be an expensive lesson learned at best.
most of the "cheaper" stuff does cause problems for me. Cliniques
moisturizer makes the red patches worse for whatever reason and it has
no fragrance.
Are redheads more sensitive to cosmetics? or is it just us?
Hey, I have found one thing that I really love for my hands and feet
and it is in this expensive stuff I bought.
It's called Shea Butter. It goes on a bit greasy but my feet/hands
are softer, less dry/miserable than they have ever been. Even hubby
noticed. It soaks in pretty well within a short time. And I get it
pure from GNC so there is no fragrance or any other additive - just
100% shea butter. If you buy any and it appears grainy or part oil,
part little beads of "something", melt it in the microwave (being
careful as I *wasn't* to remove any pieces of foil packaing that might
be stuck to the top of the jar) and then freeze it (lid partly open so
it won't create pressure. It comes out as a good solid butter and
stays solid that way in normal household temps. if you don't do this
then you'll not get the full benefit of the butter because the
components are seperated.
KCat
wrote:
>
>"KCat" <kcdo...@ghg.net> wrote in message
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>> I went to this fancy schmancy salon because my derm is backordered on
>
>What I really want to know is how did you get close enough to a display to
>make a choice?
heh.. in a dept. store this is true. Geez they reek! This was a "day
spa" and had a lot of floor space with cubicle for people getting
facials and all that. (something I've alwayse made fun of but after
being in this place for about 15 minutes the level of "peace and
quiet" was almost hypnotic. Anyway - with all that open air it wasn't
too bad and since they only sell skin care treatments and no perfumes
or potpourri it wasn't overwhelming.
>I remember you saying that (like me), you take a deep breath
>and then run past cosmetics counters.
>Perhaps you just didn't run fast enough! BTDT
You know.. when I asked and they said "go upstairs and ask one of our
estheticians" (what the hell is that?) I had a bbbbbaaaaad feeling.
Like that feeling you get when you get stuck in a "special offer"
telephone spam call. yeah - lesson learned.
Beverley
that I can drop in my jeans pocket. The little round tin never pokes me when
I sit down and the body keeps it at the perfect temp. I just barely touch
the stuff and then smear it around on my hands, lips, face whatever needs
moisturizing. My skin is so dry that one of these days I'm just going to be
walking along and it is just going to crack and fall off of me. My sister
buys the shea butter for me from a place called L'Occitane at the mall. It's
a plant derivative from a tree. I'll have to tell her about GNC having it
also. Probably lots cheaper than paying almost $7 for a little tiny can and
if it is 100% shea butter who cares who puts it in a can! Shea does go on
slimy so I just use a little bit at a time and do it often as I can't stand
being slimy.
My other favorite jean pocket tin is Wise Woman Comfrey Comfort Salve by
Burt's Bees, Inc. I could smell that stuff until the cows come home. But the
smell is very intense when I first put it on so I don't like to wear it
around the kids too much. It is supposed to have healing properties - who
knows. I love the way it smells - just like I've been in the herb garden,
so green and fresh!
The older I get the drier I get or is it the Sjogren's? Doesn't matter, my
skin is way too dry all the time. Working makes it worse because my hands
are in and out of bleach water and I must wash my hands 25 times just while
I am at school. (Yeah, I'm a compulsive hand washer just bad enough to be
healthy and not bad enough to be a problem. Oh, the fine line between
insanity and sanity! I know what you are thinking and you wouldn't so if
you saw how black my hands get at work.)
I think redheads are more sensitive to everything followed by pale blondes
with very fair skin. Of course there are those with very dark skin that are
just as sensitive as any redhead! But on a whole I think redheads are in
general the most sensitive skinned people.
Speaking of smells - I often inherit shampoo etc. from my sister as she is
so smell sensitive. Something might smell okay in the bottle at the store
but get it home and in the shower and my sister loses it. She goes through
either a gag process or just feels as if she can't breathe. Not me (usually)
I love things like Jergen's Cherry Almond hand soap. But I have gagged out
especially on bathroom cleaners. Don't know why but there is something in
them. Open window, hold breath, spray, run from room, shut door, breathe
again, do not enter until all smell is gone from the room.
Bev
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Tracy Blumenthal Zelman
develop. The minute I heard that, I figured "oh great, probably $100". He
told me who carried it, and amazing enough a tub of it was $6.00! It works
wonderfully! It also comes in cream, and a cleanser. No sunscreen, though.
My derm specializes in connective tissue skin problems, and he said he has
found that there is a protein in peanut oil that is missing from the skin.
That is one of the ingredients in the cream.
Anyway, its great stuff, and the tub lasts me about 4 months.
Hang in there, and take care evryone!
Tracy
"if you're on thin ice you may as well dance..."
KCat
when I've gotten my money's worth out of this stuff (assuming i can)
I'll prolly switch to homemade. Can I add Shea Butter to this recipe?
I really like it's effects.
Barbara Petty
your dry skin?
The dermatologist recommended it once. It has no fragrance....easy to
obtain...and besides, it helps you sliiiiiiiiiiide right out of bed.
barb
BJ
No, I haven't tried it but I like the idea. It would make getting up in the
morning a whole lot easier.
BJ
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KCat
>Hi Barbara,
>No, I haven't tried it but I like the idea. It would make getting up in the
>morning a whole lot easier.
>BJ
>
yeah but what about when you're.... you know...
<blushing madly - NOT!>
Lee Thompson-Herbert
Yeah, just remember to melt it with the oil component, just like you would
cocoa butter or coconut oil. It'll give you a thicker finished product,
but that's not a bad thing if you apply the stuff while your skin is still
damp, then pat off the excess. That's actually my morning in-the-shower
routine. I no longer get raw spots from where my clothing has torn my
poor, fragile skin.
BJ
trouble finding me anyway. That would just make it more interesting.He'll
have to crazy glue something???????
Smiles,
BJnews:u0a31ug79ba6rgiiv...@4ax.com...
Wes Johnston
I'm having impure thoughts over here!
BJ
Aren't we just sooo bad? Other than the impure thoughts, how are you doing?
Did you hear any more from your PCP? How is Mom? It is BJ again with all the
questions, but you knew that,
Fondly,
BJ
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Barbara Petty
You are soooo bad !!
HEE HEE HEE
barbtoo
( I'll never tell......)
Wes Johnston
Hi BJ,
I'm OK. Mom is doing well. Just got back from some Christmas
shopping, and hunting for sugarless lemon drops for mom. It is funny
what people crave when they are sick. I finally found them.
I had labs today, and turned in another 24 hour urine. The PCP is
supposed to get back to me about those results early next week.
Tracy Blumenthal Zelman
"Barbara Petty" <bwp...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>it helps you sliiiiiiiiiiide right out of bed.
That could be ugly. I've always had this strange fear of satin sheets for the
exact same reason. :-)
Beverley
losing my pillow. Sort of a Simon and Garfunkle "slip sliding away"
........................
Bev
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KCat
<potti...@sybercom.net> wrote:
>I really can't say much about satin sheets I slept on them once and I kept
>losing my pillow. Sort of a Simon and Garfunkle "slip sliding away"
I used either a satin pillow case on cotton sheets or cotton pillow
case on satin sheets. Either way, hubby doesn't care for satin so it
is now in the "give away" pile and we're going with high count cotton
(I suffer from Princess and the Pea syndrome as most of us do I
think).
ruth tay
(Tracy Blumenthal Zelman) wrote:
Hi Tracy as an owner of an Inn we put satin sheets and bedspreads on the
beds and got lots of complaints for that reason Ruth
Sherry
the group. Don't overdo!
Sherry
Tracy Blumenthal Zelman
(ruth tay) writes:
>Hi Tracy as an owner of an Inn we put satin sheets and bedspreads on the
>beds and got lots of complaints for that reason Ruth
Sorta makes you re-think your liability insurance.
Where is your inn?
ruth tay
(Tracy Blumenthal Zelman) wrote:
Hi TRACEY We are in Northern California On the coast in Mendocino. By the way
we gave the sheets to the homeless shelter house and they had good fun with
them.. It is cold up here now 44 and has been rainey. Business is way down
and that is great because I still can't move my shoulder without pain since
they took the ball out of it. Wouldn't it be great to greet a client with
a snarl instead of a flour dusted face with the aroma of cinamon and vanilla.
We have had over 15 inches of rain in the past two weeks and the hillside is
green again. We usually are real busy for Christmas but not so this year.
We have about 16 family coming for Christmas and we will have plenty of
space to put them. They all know about the out of order shoulder so they are
planning to do all of the cooking of breakfast lunch and dinner. and clean
up. Since all of the brothers and sisters and their families enjoy each other
it will be a big time. When I get tired and grumpy I will go to the bedroom
and take a nap. I am going to have a great grandchild next spring [how can
that be because I am only 51?] so sisters and aunts will have much to talk
about. Much love to you all ruth
ruth tay
rut...@mcn.org (ruth tay) wrote:
Hi again Noticed that I lied about my age again I know 65 is a necessity
because I am now geting soc sec and medicare. Its 5'40 and I wish the roxecet
would take affect and I could think of more whoppers to write ;pve rutj