Re: So where does she get off?
Your Name Here=Harvey
anne_o_...@yahoo.com says...
>
>I saw someone I know last night and she snubbed me. Would not
>acknowledge me or say hello. I know she saw me. We orignially met at
>the same restaurant a few months ago. We seemed to get along well. We
>went out to eat a number of times. She was intelligent and civilized
>except she had some strange issues about meeting people at a
>prearranged time. She would only plan a few hours in advance. Finally
>I got her to commit to a time and place by just being unavailable at
>other times. When I met her she had invited another friend of hers
>without telling me. This other lady was kind of notorious in town for
>being wierd or difficult or an extreme hippy back in the day. Although
>at first I could tell my friend was miffed by having to show up
>somewhere she had to commit to in advance it didn't seem to be issue as
>time wore on. The conversation was going o.k. it seems. We were there
>for hours. Strangely, though, during the conversation the other lady
>somehow seemed to think that I might be a lesbian, I think, because she
>had some sentiments that way, maybe. She also asked a lot of
>inappropriate questions about other things. It was more like an
>interrogation and the questions were none of her business. Still it
>was all going so well from their perspective that at the end of the
>evening they really wanted me to come and sing Karaoke with them. I
>was too tired. That's how we left it, they wanted me to continue the
>evening with them.
>
>The next day, the more I thought about the crazy hippy lady and her
>manipulative ways, the more I thought that she was out of line. I also
>had a hard time with the original friend's problems with being
>somewhere planned in advance. I mean she is fifty and doesn't work.
>There's no real reason. I was getting more and more steamed. I did
>not call her again. She didn't call me either, which was strange. She
>was usually the one to call me. I knew what my problems was with her
>but what was her problem with me? About two months go by. Then I see
>her. She an attractive, slim woman who doesn't look her age and there
>she is on a Saturday night with a character who hangs out at the
>bookstore. He wears the exact same outfit every day, year in and year
>out. It's clean but it's exactly the same. He usually doesn't talk to
>anyone and moves oddly. He's nice enough when you talk to him but
>something isn't quite right. He doesn't seem to work and looks
>considerably older than her. There just has to be something wrong
>with her. She's fifty and is very traditional but has never married.
>There has to be a reason.
>
>Anyway, she comes into the restaurant and was trying not to meet my
>eye. I thought, it was one of those, I'll try to slip by unnoticed by
>if I'm caught, I will say hello type of things. Not even. Even though
>she was sitting right next to me, she continued to aggressively avoid
>my eyes. She even looked scared and bothered by my presence.
>
>We never had a fight. We just stopped calling each other, me for a
>reason, her, it seems for less than a reason. This lady is crazy.
>
Everybody is strange in their own way.
And weirdos are even stranger, once you know them better.
So people claim to be nice and good, but they don't act that way.
It is always hard to find someone who is what they say, and mean
what they say to you, etc etc.
It is usually obvious, if someone does want to be with you, and it
is mutually rewarding company you have in common.
But that is very rare indeed - and when you think you've found someone
special, they suddenly develop an aversion to you...
Life sucks at times, that's for sure.
Harvey
sumire
S.
NYC XYZ
LOL...happens to me on usenet!
Actually, last week this girl I knew was waiting in line for coffee and
I happen to be walking by and our eyes met in happy recognition -- for
all of a second. I looked away embarrassed to have revealed my
attraction to her, and she probably took that looking away for a snub,
of all things, and ignored me when I went up to her and said hello.
Females. Please don't let them take over.
sumire
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Sumi
Eleonore Beaudoin
> I'm sorry.
> take a ((((((((((((((hug)))))))))))))))
Take two:)
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> Sumi
>
NYC XYZ
Anon-e-Mouse wrote:
> Who are you talking to? We're mostly females on this thread.
Please don't take over. It's a crazy enough world without "that time
of the month," etc.
michaela
> Anyway, she comes into the restaurant and was trying not to meet my
> eye. I thought, it was one of those, I'll try to slip by unnoticed by
> if I'm caught, I will say hello type of things. Not even. Even though
> she was sitting right next to me, she continued to aggressively avoid
> my eyes. She even looked scared and bothered by my presence.
>
> We never had a fight. We just stopped calling each other, me for a
> reason, her, it seems for less than a reason. This lady is crazy.
I seem to have lost my original post... if not and I managed to post it,
forgive this repeat if you will...
Did it occur to you to approach her and chat?
Have you thought of trying to reframe her pov at all?
Here's an example from a book by Ken Keyes book. It tells of a man
(warning: with me details might be fuzzy so look for gist. also, iirc the
story itself wasn't written by him.) who gets on a bus going home after
work one day. He's tired after work etc.
Another man and his three sons climb on the bus and they're all
rowdy and stuff. The 1st man tries to ignore it but it ends up
building into a frenzy within him (he makes it his problem) and
he's just gotta let it out.
First man says something to the other man or to the kids or
something and the 2nd man looks distracted/confused for a
sec, but as soon as it dawns on him that his kids are indeed
being disruptive on the train he calls them and scolds them
or whatever and turns to the 1st man and says. "I'm sorry. They
aren't usually this unruly. I didn't notice them. See, we've just
come from the hospital where their mum died two hours ago
etc."
There's a very real possibility this woman has valid (if only to her)
reasons why she was avoiding you.
- Michaela
michaela
Would you agree it'd be a nice thing if you only noticed the good in people?
- Michaela
Anon-e-Mouse
YOUR idea. Yes? Or do you have a girlfriend now? When's the last time
you went on a date? You're in New York City, the place in the world
where the ratio of attractive women to men is the most in your favor.
You claim to have an athlete's body. Why can't you get a woman?
Darkfalz
But that would make women invisible.
michaela
How you see women reflects on you.
- Michaela
Darkfalz
No, it reflects on what I see.
michaela
Yes well. This world's a wonderful place with men running the show.
- Michaela
NYC XYZ
michaela wrote:
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>
> Would you agree it'd be a nice thing if you only noticed the good in people?
>
> - Michaela
Odin asked these three witches for the gift of insight. They told him
it would cost him an eye.
Seeker of Wisdom that he is, he gladly paid the price, only to be told
that the secret is to watch with both eyes!
NYC XYZ
Anon-e-Mouse wrote:
> So, you say offensive things to drive women away from you,
No I don't. Women can't handle the truth, because they don't have to,
since having a pussy guarantees that some guy will simply "yes" them.
> is if it was
> YOUR idea. Yes?
?
> Or do you have a girlfriend now?
Why, are you volunteering?
I'm very picky, you know.
> When's the last time
> you went on a date?
Two weeks ago. OMG, you've got to hear this one: it was this internet
lady who kept playing games (you know, disappearing, etc.). Finally
caught her at the right alignment of stars and planets, I guess (you
know how women are so stupid the first thing they read is the
horoscopes), so she finally agrees to meet me after four months of
off-and-on bullshit. We went to see "A Prairie Home Companion"
(www.prairiehome.org) and, sure enough, it was all way over her head,
which I knew right from the get-go by just looking at her -- no tits,
no ass, no face, no personality, no brain...she spent our
before-the-show coffee-conversation talking about her bills...the night
before, on the phone, she spent three hours talking about how her
daughter's too wild for her and her daughter's showing off her tits and
ass and she's only thirteen but looking like a fifteen year-old (and
they're latinas, so you know what that means!!!)....
> You're in New York City, the place in the world
> where the ratio of attractive women to men is the most in your favor.
Where'd you get that figure?
Besides, surely you've figured out by now that it's not just tits and
ass??
> You claim to have an athlete's body. Why can't you get a woman?
"Many are called, but few are chosen."
And I'd already posted a picture of myself -- no mere "claim."
Unfortunately, females are such hypocrites that you have to want them
for their "minds," and me showing off makes them think that all I want
is sex.
The fact of the matter is, women are just plain stupid (of course, any
time you alert them of their innate stupidity, you've actually helped
increase their intelligence by just that much -- at least for the time
being [and usually WRT only to you!], with nary a thanks). Yeah, I've
done my share of using their bodies -- though I'd always felt pretty
guilty about it. And now that I'm through with that -- 'cause you
always pay, so you might as well find one that's worth investing in,
for keeps -- I find how 99% of women are just hamburger meat.
I've only personally met two girls who not only had good looks and nice
bodies, but pretty smiles and BRAINS and a GOOD HEART!!! Holy fucking
shit, two out of hundreds!!!!
Unfortunately, I was too preoccupied with the hamburger meat at the
time. I admit, that's my fault.
NYC XYZ
michaela wrote:
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>
> Yes well. This world's a wonderful place with men running the show.
>
> - Michaela
Well, maybe *you* -- just maybe...I've noticed that girls who love pets
(and not just cunts who think cats and dogs are fashion accessories)
are very nice people.
Eleonore Beaudoin
> Anon-e-Mouse wrote:
>> So, you say offensive things to drive women away from you,
>
> No I don't. Women can't handle the truth, because they don't have to,
> since having a pussy guarantees that some guy will simply "yes" them.
In defence of men, and to hang on to my beliefs against all odds;-),allow
me to guess that you probably meant "Men unable of discernment would yes
them"....;-)
Michaela Mackenzie
> michaela wrote:
> > Would you agree it'd be a nice thing if you only noticed the good in people?
>
> it would cost him an eye.
>
> Seeker of Wisdom that he is, he gladly paid the price, only to be told
> that the secret is to watch with both eyes!
3 If you over-esteem talented individuals,
people will become overly competitive.
If you overvalue possessions,
people will begin to steal.
Do not display your treasures
or people will become envious.
9 It is easier to carry an empty cup
than one that is filled to the brim.
The sharper the knife
the easier it is to dull.
The more wealth you possess
the harder it is to protect.
Pride brings its own trouble.
When you have accomplished your goal
simply walk away.
This is the path way to Heaven.
```
I saw the end of some kiddy movie the other
day. These kids went up to a [presumably] wise
old Chinese man who was watering his beautiful
flowers.
The one boy asked the old man, "Grandfather, what
do the flowers say when they are blooming and when
they are not blooming?
The grandfather replied "Nothing. The flowers don't
want to brag about becoming pretty. They just want
to *be* pretty."
- Michaela
NYC XYZ
Michaela Mackenzie wrote:
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>
> 3 If you over-esteem talented individuals,
> people will become overly competitive.
> If you overvalue possessions,
> people will begin to steal.
>
> Do not display your treasures
> or people will become envious.
>
> 9 It is easier to carry an empty cup
> than one that is filled to the brim.
>
> The sharper the knife
> the easier it is to dull.
> The more wealth you possess
> the harder it is to protect.
> Pride brings its own trouble.
>
> When you have accomplished your goal
> simply walk away.
> This is the path way to Heaven.
Don't you try to "joss" *me* with the Dao, missy!
> ```
> I saw the end of some kiddy movie the other
> day. These kids went up to a [presumably] wise
> old Chinese man who was watering his beautiful
> flowers.
How many "Karate Kid" movies are there, anyway?!?!
> The one boy asked the old man, "Grandfather, what
> do the flowers say when they are blooming and when
> they are not blooming?
>
> The grandfather replied "Nothing. The flowers don't
> want to brag about becoming pretty. They just want
> to *be* pretty."
I must say, my problem is that I want to pluck the flowers....
> - Michaela
Michaela Mackenzie
> Michaela Mackenzie wrote:
> >
> > 3 If you over-esteem talented individuals,
> > people will become overly competitive.
> > If you overvalue possessions,
> > people will begin to steal.
> >
> > Do not display your treasures
> > or people will become envious.
> >
> > 9 It is easier to carry an empty cup
> > than one that is filled to the brim.
> >
> > The sharper the knife
> > the easier it is to dull.
> > The more wealth you possess
> > the harder it is to protect.
> > Pride brings its own trouble.
> >
> > When you have accomplished your goal
> > simply walk away.
> > This is the path way to Heaven.
>
> Don't you try to "joss" *me* with the Dao, missy!
What does "joss" mean?
- Michaela
NYC XYZ
Michaela Mackenzie wrote:
>
>
> What does "joss" mean?
>
> - Michaela
I'm making a pun between "josh," "to kid," and "joss," as in .joss or
yarrow sticks, which were used in I Ching divinations...since you were
quoting from the Dao De Jing ("Tao Te Ching"), I thought it was droll
enough banter.
michaela
Well I'm a bit of a fake.
- Michaela
NYC XYZ
michaela wrote:
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>
> Well I'm a bit of a fake.
>
> - Michaela
Well, as an actor once said, it's easier to be someone else than to be
yourself.
That's the problem with being with women...it's like dealing with the
devil: the minute you're ready to sell your soul it's worthless.
michaela
> michaela wrote:
>>
>> Well I'm a bit of a fake.
>
> yourself.
>
> That's the problem with being with women...it's like dealing with the
> devil: the minute you're ready to sell your soul it's worthless.
The point is of course not to 'sell your soul' (I'm not big on devils but).
- Michaela
NYC XYZ
michaela wrote:
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>
> The point is of course not to 'sell your soul' (I'm not big on devils but).
>
> - Michaela
The point is women are never satisfied, so don't pay them any mind.
Because as sure as night follows day, the bitch will think of something
else she wants.
michaela
> michaela wrote:
>>
>> The point is of course not to 'sell your soul' (I'm not big on
>> devils but).
>
> Because as sure as night follows day, the bitch will think of
> something else she wants.
Victim is such a drab colour.
- Michaela
NYC XYZ
michaela wrote:
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>
> Victim is such a drab colour.
>
> - Michaela
Yup, spoken just like a woman.
Guy not into you?
He must be gay.
I've always said that there no victims, only volunteers.
But, of course, I'm talking to a woman here.
"I imply, but you infer."
michaela
> michaela wrote:
>> Victim is such a drab colour.
>
>
> Guy not into you?
>
> He must be gay.
Attribution error. I'm tired of talking about FAE. Check
it out for yourself.
Just a thought
Use it
Don't use it
- Michaela
NYC XYZ
michaela wrote:
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>
> Attribution error. I'm tired of talking about FAE. Check
> it out for yourself.
>
> Just a thought
> Use it
> Don't use it
>
> - Michaela
Tired is such a drab colour.
michaela
> michaela wrote:
I'm not the one looking for a significant other.
Nor am I whining.
- Michaela
michaela
> michaela wrote:
>> Attribution error. I'm tired of talking about FAE. Check
>> it out for yourself.
>>
>> Just a thought
>> Use it
>> Don't use it
>
Have you done your homework?
http://tinyurl.com/9bt93 jik.
Love
Michaela
NYC XYZ
michaela wrote:
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>
> I'm not the one looking for a significant other.
>
> Nor am I whining.
>
> - Michaela
Sure, which is why you're on ASL following me around like a bitch.
NYC XYZ
My bitch ate it.
Michaela Mackenzie
> michaela wrote:
> >
> > I'm not the one looking for a significant other.
> >
> > Nor am I whining.
>
You hold on to that anger as tight as you can, mind.
That way you never have to look inside.
- Michaela
NYC XYZ
Hang on to your self-righteousness.
It helps you stay sane sometimes.
michaela
> Hang on to your self-righteousness.
How can I 'hang on to self-righteousness' if I had to see it in
myself before I could see it in you?
- Michaela
NYC XYZ
michaela wrote:
>
>
> How can I 'hang on to self-righteousness' if I had to see it in
> myself before I could see it in you?
>
> - Michaela
Do you like make-up sex?