message in a bottle 4
Maddogg
I am sorry you are upset by all this, as are so many... and
I am sorry for my part in the "repetitive" business, but I have
to do what I feel is right, by posting the truth, each time raff
posts his lies, and manipulations... if he would stop posting
his lies, then I would not have to post behind him, to let the
truth be known... seems simple, doesn't it?
You are right, Lin, we can still be alone, even though we do
have friends... all of the friends I have, are in this group. I do
not have contact with anyone, other than my family, and my
friends in this group... and even when I am with my family, or
my friends here, I do still sometimes feel alone... sometimes
painfully so...
And you are right, in that we never can be sure if our choices
are absolutely the best choices... but we have to do what we
think is right, and draw from within ourselves, and our beliefs,
and believe that we are doing what is best for ourselves...
I am sorry you are still feeling that self-doubt, that you knew as
a young girl... I know it is hard to get beyond those things that
are formed in our minds, and hearts, when we are young... but
I see you as a warm, intelligent, sensitive person, who speaks
her heart, in sincerity, and honesty. I don't see anything wrong
in what you are doing... (smile)... I know I am not aware of all
the things going on in your life, and I know that is what you are
speaking of here, but if you just continue to do what you think
is best, and stick to your beliefs, and believe in yourself, you
may just find that you are doing all of the "right" things... (smile)
Please take good care of yourself, Lin... I sincerely do wish you
peace, in your mind, and in your heart... I wish you the best...
warm, comforting hugs,
Michael
"...Blackbird singing in the dead of night,
take these broken wings, and learn to fly..."
Lennon and McCartney
In article <7o5572$e8s$1...@news1.xs4all.nl>, "Lin" <lin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I know I haven't been supportive lately. I hate the things that are going
>on. I know they are going away. Just have to wait untill people get tired of
>repeating themselves.
>Sorry, you all know I care for you....
>Life can be so hard. I am not without caring, loving friends, not like many
>of you are.....still sometimes I do feel alone. Sometimes life plays dirty
>tricks on you, tricks that make you wonder, if the direction you chose was
>right....How can we be sure...? We can't, we just have to believe our choice
>was right.
>
>Even when I was a little girl, I knew life wasn't easy. I was an ugly, shy
>little girl. Who knew people never liked her. As a young child I couldn't
>figure out why...I felt like I was doing something wrong.
>Never could find out what it was....it seems somedays I still haven't found
>out....
>Wish I knew....
>Hugs
>Lin
>
>
LadyJae
I saw this bottle floating by and it sparkled in the sunlight.
<smile> I could not resist reaching for it. Inside, I found the note
of a woman with a heart that's true and who is honest and caring.
I read the note and I knew tears for the Child that was and for the
woman who still carries a part of that Child within her. And I felt
anger for any who might have made that Child feel ugly, for all Children
are beautiful and should be loved and helped to feel beautiful and good.
Darlin'....the problems do not always come because we do something
wrong. Sometimes, it is because the Child that we were was not nurtured
and made to feel important and necessary in the lives of those around
them. Comforting hugs......Jae
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
mr.demian
Lin wrote in message <7o5572$e8s$1...@news1.xs4all.nl>...
>I know I haven't been supportive lately. I hate the things that are going
>on. I know they are going away. Just have to wait untill people get tired
of
>repeating themselves.
>Sorry, you all know I care for you....
hello Lin , the prevelent atmosphere of late , I believe , has had a
similar effect on others as well . For a variety of reason's I have never
really felt comfortable posting here , but I was at least able to find some
comfort and interest in lurking . Lately it feels like too much time and
trouble . I don't have the time or energy for making heads or tails of it .
there is enough conflict and antagonism in the RL day to day world , this
was a welcome refuge .
>Life can be so hard. I am not without caring, loving friends, not like many
>of you are.....still sometimes I do feel alone. Sometimes life plays dirty
>tricks on you, tricks that make you wonder, if the direction you chose was
>right....How can we be sure...? We can't, we just have to believe our
choice
>was right.
I agree . Having faced life both with and without friends and material
comfort and I have found that loneliness and difficulty are at home in
either case . I agree with you that we can never be sure If we have made the
right
choice . ( though knowing this hasn't always kept me from dwelling on it
...) However , as for believing our choice was right . . . that's a tricky
one . I am sure I have made some wrong choices , there was too much
evidence to ignore . also , if I don't acknowledge them then I can't learn
from them . And some times it isn't possible to say one way or the other . I
guess I would take the position that I can't be sure , but I can accept
and take responsibility for my choices . very difficult . especially when
there are always so many people around who could be likely targets for blame
.
>Even when I was a little girl, I knew life wasn't easy. I was an ugly, shy
>little girl. Who knew people never liked her. As a young child I couldn't
>figure out why...I felt like I was doing something wrong.
>Never could find out what it was....it seems somedays I still haven't found
out....
Again , I have thought the same myself , except for the part about being
a girl . It is sad that a child should have to grapple with these issues and
feelings . I have learned from it , so , not a complete loss .
>Wish I knew....
>Hugs
>Lin
knowing is good . not knowing is good . the effort is more important than
the result .
demian
Lin
on. I know they are going away. Just have to wait untill people get tired of
repeating themselves.
Sorry, you all know I care for you....
of you are.....still sometimes I do feel alone. Sometimes life plays dirty
tricks on you, tricks that make you wonder, if the direction you chose was
right....How can we be sure...? We can't, we just have to believe our choice
was right.
Even when I was a little girl, I knew life wasn't easy. I was an ugly, shy
little girl. Who knew people never liked her. As a young child I couldn't
figure out why...I felt like I was doing something wrong.
Never could find out what it was....it seems somedays I still haven't found
out....
Gina R12
I'm afraid I've allowed the most unfortunate circumstances here to prevent me
from being very supportive, myself. Life is indeed very hard at times....It's
a lot like "practice" ... you just keep on practicing (making choices) until
someday you get it right....and learn from your mistakes, and the tricks. Lin,
I've seen a kind and caring person behind your words...and I do not believe you
do anything "wrong" that would keep people from liking you. Take a long, hard
look at yourself....and like what you see. Sometimes that isn't an easy thing
to do....but keep "practicing" until you get it right.
Hugs and Smiles,
Gina
"Will we ever understand ?
Or is the fate of man at hand ?
Will we live or shall we die ?
How will we ever know if we never try ?"
--- Lenny Kravitz
>
>
>
>
Gina R12
Well....with the wisdom and support you've just shown to Lin, I sincerely hope
you will stay with us and post more. With your keen perception, I believe you
have a lot to offer in this group. And, like many of us here, I believe you
will find something for yourself, too. There are some kind, caring and
understanding people here...waiting to meet a new friend. :-)
Smiles...
Gina
"It's Amazing ...
With the blink of an eye you finally see the light...
It's Amazing ...
When the moment arrives that you know you'll be alright..."
--- Aerosmith
King
On Tue, 3 Aug 1999 00:11:25 +0200, "Lin" <lin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I know I haven't been supportive lately. I hate the things that are going
>on. I know they are going away. Just have to wait untill people get tired of
>repeating themselves.
Sure!
And even if they don't, you may skip their messages.
Above all, focus on positivity! There are always useful, supportive
messages. You may just read them and ignore the off-topics.
>Sorry, you all know I care for you....
>Life can be so hard. I am not without caring, loving friends, not like many
>of you are.....still sometimes I do feel alone. Sometimes life plays dirty
>tricks on you, tricks that make you wonder, if the direction you chose was
>right....How can we be sure...? We can't, we just have to believe our choice
>was right.
You can't be sure, only try to manage the right choice. And often,
when you see a mistake, to correct it before it's too late. Don't
forget that life is in evolution, so what was the right choice, may
turn out to be wrong later.
>Even when I was a little girl, I knew life wasn't easy. I was an ugly, shy
>little girl. Who knew people never liked her. As a young child I couldn't
>figure out why...I felt like I was doing something wrong.
>Never could find out what it was....it seems somedays I still haven't found
>out....
>Wish I knew....
You've told a whole story in a few words. There was nothing wrong in
you, but the fear of rejection. That's typical with shyness. Feel free
to write more if you like. :o)
>Hugs
>Lin
>
>
All the best
King
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Lin
I thank you for your warm words, I to have found a wonderfull group of
friends here. People I will never meet, who show me they care and who have
become friends, I am happy to see you all, each day.
Don't worry about your 'part' in what ever business. I believe people should
act in freedom here, doing the things they believe in.
Like everybody I have doubts about a lot of things I do, sometimes these
doubts rule out my happiness, my abbility of enjoying live as it is. I
sometimes need friends to point that out. With kind words, like yours, or
when I won't listen and keep on whining, I need a kick....
I am glad I have found friends here, that do both....8-)
I got the kick in private mail, none the less I needed it...
In a world where sadness rules
where people seem so cold
friends I have are precious jewels
more beautifull than gold
Hugs
Lin
Maddogg heeft geschreven in bericht <7o56ti$9c_...@news.earthlink.net>...
>In article <7o5572$e8s$1...@news1.xs4all.nl>, "Lin" <lin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>I know I haven't been supportive lately. I hate the things that are going
>>on. I know they are going away. Just have to wait untill people get tired
of
>>repeating themselves.
>>Sorry, you all know I care for you....
>>Life can be so hard. I am not without caring, loving friends, not like
many
>>of you are.....still sometimes I do feel alone. Sometimes life plays dirty
>>tricks on you, tricks that make you wonder, if the direction you chose was
>>right....How can we be sure...? We can't, we just have to believe our
choice
>>was right.
>>
>>Even when I was a little girl, I knew life wasn't easy. I was an ugly, shy
>>little girl. Who knew people never liked her. As a young child I couldn't
>>figure out why...I felt like I was doing something wrong.
>>Never could find out what it was....it seems somedays I still haven't
found
>>out....
>>Wish I knew....
>>Hugs
>>Lin
>>
>>
>
Lin
Lin
showed you are caring, thank you for that. I still look at the posts
everyday, skipping everything that seems about things I don't want to hear.
Choices are always difficult and one can not be sure whenever a choice is
made it was really a good one. Still we all have to choose, everyday. And
learning from what we do, is the only way to live. Still we tend to make the
same mistakes over and over again....Thank you for letting me know you do
that too....8-) I apriciate your honesty about that. It good to share....
thank you and be well. I hope this place will soon be a refuge again were we
feel save to express our feeling
Hugs
Lin
>
>hello Lin , the prevelent atmosphere of late , I believe , has had a
>similar effect on others as well . For a variety of reason's I have never
>really felt comfortable posting here , but I was at least able to find some
>comfort and interest in lurking . Lately it feels like too much time and
>trouble . I don't have the time or energy for making heads or tails of it .
>there is enough conflict and antagonism in the RL day to day world , this
>was a welcome refuge .
>
<respectfully snipped>
Lin
Thank you for the support. The hard thing about making choices is when other
people are involved, that are suffering from the choice you made...Well I
have to figure that out for myself. Still it is good to see you and the
others caring for me....
{{{{{hugs}}}} right backatcha
Lin
you, since you've brought so much pain and discomfort to the people that I
consider my friends. Still I apriciate your response. I am not a shy person
anymore, still underneath all the things I have learned, the shy child will
never really disapear. It's like Jae says. I can live with it, most of the
time, only sometimes it makes me insecure.
Be well
Lin
>
>Sure!
>
>And even if they don't, you may skip their messages.
>Above all, focus on positivity! There are always useful, supportive
>messages. You may just read them and ignore the off-topics.
>
>>Sorry, you all know I care for you....
>>Life can be so hard. I am not without caring, loving friends, not like
many
>>of you are.....still sometimes I do feel alone. Sometimes life plays dirty
>>tricks on you, tricks that make you wonder, if the direction you chose was
>>right....How can we be sure...? We can't, we just have to believe our
choice
>>was right.
>
>You can't be sure, only try to manage the right choice. And often,
>when you see a mistake, to correct it before it's too late. Don't
>forget that life is in evolution, so what was the right choice, may
>turn out to be wrong later.
>
>>Even when I was a little girl, I knew life wasn't easy. I was an ugly, shy
>>little girl. Who knew people never liked her. As a young child I couldn't
>>figure out why...I felt like I was doing something wrong.
>>Never could find out what it was....it seems somedays I still haven't
found
>>out....
>>Wish I knew....
>
Nanny
Lin wrote in message <7o5572$e8s$1...@news1.xs4all.nl>...
>I know I haven't been supportive lately. I hate the things that are going
>on. I know they are going away. Just have to wait untill people get tired
of
>repeating themselves.
***Do you also feel that through the irritation in reading all these things
you loose the 'inspiration' to answer many of the other posts ?
>Sorry, you all know I care for you....
>Life can be so hard. I am not without caring, loving friends, not like many
>of you are.....still sometimes I do feel alone. Sometimes life plays dirty
>tricks on you, tricks that make you wonder, if the direction you chose was
>right....How can we be sure...? We can't, we just have to believe our
choice
>was right.
>
>
***I something get the feeling that the more people I get to know the more
people I need.
Even when I was a little girl, I knew life wasn't easy. I was an ugly, shy
>little girl. Who knew people never liked her. As a young child I couldn't
>figure out why...I felt like I was doing something wrong.
>Never could find out what it was....it seems somedays I still haven't found
>out....
>Wish I knew....
>Hugs
>Lin
>
Hugs, Nanny>
--
Don't be reckless with other peoples hearts.
Don't put up with people who are reckless with yours.
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Lin
>***Do you also feel that through the irritation in reading all these things
>you loose the 'inspiration' to answer many of the other posts ?
>Right now I find it sometimes hard to find the other posts between the
'garbadge'. Besides that I have a vacation and my kids are staying with me.
This gives me less time to write.....>
>>
>***I something get the feeling that the more people I get to know the more
people I need.
>
>And we need you Nanny
Hugs
Lin
>