5 REASONS Why Life IS NOT Worth Living.
NightOwl
1. No matter how hard you work at it, some people's dreams will never
come true.
2. Bad things happen to good people. And they always will.
3. Most people don't really care how YOU feel about life. And if they
say they do it's probably just there job , or they want you to stop
whining so they can get on with THERE lives.
4. They tell you that everyone has a purpose in life. There just
trying to dilute you into thinking that you do. When in actuality you
don't.
5. They say love will save you, and love is the strongest human
emotion. It's not, HATE is. It's the only emotion that overrides love.
Ever notice how fast LOVE can turn into HATE. Therefore HATE is
stronger.
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> 1. No matter how hard you work at it, some people's dreams will never
> come true.
if you don't live , how will you know ?
>
> 2. Bad things happen to good people. And they always will.
bad things happen to everyone
>
> 3. Most people don't really care how YOU feel about life. And if they
> say they do it's probably just there job , or they want you to stop
> whining so they can get on with THERE lives.
then ... do it
>
> 4. They tell you that everyone has a purpose in life. There just
> trying to dilute you into thinking that you do. When in actuality you
> don't.
you posted this with purpose
>
> 5. They say love will save you, and love is the strongest human
> emotion. It's not, HATE is. It's the only emotion that overrides love.
> Ever notice how fast LOVE can turn into HATE. Therefore HATE is
> stronger.
emotions aren't competitions
>
NightOwl
is peachy in order to get by, it's called running from the truth. And
yes i know that bad things happen to everyone, but it's the good people
that suffer the most, primarily from the bad ones! They seen to always
get what they want because they are willing to lie cheat and steel to
get it, all along walking all over everyone else. So the good people
suffer more.
My name = Harvey
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>
> 1. No matter how hard you work at it, some people's dreams will never
>come true.
Success stories are always about people never giving up on their dreams
(wishes) and ensuring success at it, whatever it is, or may be.
Success can be whatever you want it to be, just as happiness can be
the same.
>
>2. Bad things happen to good people. And they always will.
And good things do happen to good people too.
>
>3. Most people don't really care how YOU feel about life. And if they
>say they do it's probably just there job , or they want you to stop
>whining so they can get on with THERE lives.
THERE = THEIR
It's your life - you can do whatever you want to do with it.
Just don't go and do something dreadfully silly, that you'll regret
forever - suicide, giving up on yourself, and everything else, etc.
>
>4. They tell you that everyone has a purpose in life. There just
>trying to dilute you into thinking that you do. When in actuality you
>don't.
Everyone does have their purpose - but it may take a lifetime to discover
what it is. Usually it's connected with friends/lovers/etc ie. relationships.
>
>5. They say love will save you, and love is the strongest human
>emotion. It's not, HATE is. It's the only emotion that overrides love.
>Ever notice how fast LOVE can turn into HATE. Therefore HATE is
>stronger.
>
Love is probably meant as compassionate love - what is usually seen as
something very very weak, that people often overlook. Kindness and gentleness
which stands meekly against violence, hate, destruction, etc.
Kinda like the baby that is born, just as you were - with your own definite
purposes in mind, which you'll discover eventually.
Just as we all do - eventually discover 'ourselves' - what we're good at,
and what we're bad at, and what we enjoy doing.
Comments about love and hate and their relationship with each other, is
open to anyone's interpretation, everyone has their own feelings and
reasoning, etc.
5 reasons worth living, would be the 5 most impressionable people you've
met in your life, or going to meet eventually, if you live long enough
here, to meet them.
Stay around, you may find one here?
Harvey
Eleonore Beaudoin
Hi, there,
NightOwl (Nigh...@webtv.net) writes:
>
> 1. No matter how hard you work at it, some people's dreams will never
> come true.
Sure can happen. To see life as it is for that side of things is not given
to anyone. However, it is a sure downer if one tends to only sees this
side of it...
The good side, oddly enough, is exactly that life is "unfair".
See below what I mean by that.
> > 2. Bad things happen to good people. And they always
will. >
Sure does happen, does it not! Very few seem aware of this, I mean really
aware that life is not based on "deserving". You are born where you are
born, and that pretty much starts shaping your life before you have any
wareness of anything. It is not deserved, as much as some try and invent
religions and all sort of lil stuff to try and close their eyes on that fact.
And try as one may, bad stuff will happen along the line, and yup, to good
people too, while some good stuff happens to ""bad"" people.
In that, life is *unfair*. But that very unfairness is universal too, and
is maybe the oen part of life that has some random element to it. I.e. if
events happen without needing to be "deserved", well, just like bad things
*can* happen to good poeple and good things to bad ones, it might also be
that just when we are sure we are dommed and bound to take another brick
on the head, whammo:...the brick does not come, and a bunch of life
flowers pour on us a while...Unexpected...and "undeserved" like all the
rest then. Their is then a sort of ""random fairness"" in the fact
anythign can happen to *anyone*. Not only bad things, but good ones too...
> 3. Most people don't really care how YOU feel about life. And if they
> say they do it's probably just there job , or they want you to stop
> whining so they can get on with THERE lives.
There are people who REALLY care. In factm, all do, but those who donlt
have time to live the caring are often just busy enjoying the flowers
moment after a series of bricks on the head;-). Some got embittered,
expecting life to be fair to them, and when it shows to be just life as
life just happens to be, randomly fair, say, well, theyc an get
"desillusioned" and get to feel doomed, and angry inside...Some wiull not
let that anger out...and will accumulate bitterness moments, and end up
with it turning against them, i.e. eating them alive inside...Where woudl
there be a flower moment, to call it something, they qwill not even be
able of awareness to it anymore. Nor able to believe such a moment can
be/come, while they might here and there be in the middle of one of
them...The bitterness and disapointment inside them making them only fear
the bricks by habit, and no longer resting in the moments of flowers....
>
> 4. They tell you that everyone has a purpose in life. There just
> trying to dilute you into thinking that you do. When in actuality you
> don't.
The purpose can be quite "un-show off". I.e. it does not need be anythign
grandiose like "being born to save the world" or invent the time
machine;0, etc. It might just happen to be actually living our lives and
affecting that of others, and in that aprticipating to the universal
"random fairness" of events and of everythign that impacts on everythign else.
Eg: one day a smile happenign to be on our face while we see an old lady
or man, where that one will maybe be insoired or think of their youth and
forget their pains a moment, and make their own flopwer moment from it,
and hang in there longer...For having seen a smile without their even
being aware of it maybe...Or being in a foul mood and telling a bus driver
to shove his shouting, where that one goes home and hangs himself. But
again, it can be very minute stuff, not showing at all and not havign such
huge decision impatcs on others. Sometimes, it is just like "maintenance"
to each other, just little things that make the simple fabric of everyday
life...where that oen remaisn essential for all the threads to not fall
apart..
>
> 5. They say love will save you, and love is the strongest human
> emotion. It's not, HATE is. It's the only emotion that overrides love.
But hate does not override love. One cna not hate someoen they dunno or
donlt care about. There hads to be love before hate "can" be, and thus,
love preceeds hate and is not overriden by hatred.
FEAR os what kills love.
Fear is the opposite energy, and fear is the destroyer of love, love for
the self and others, and love for life itself.
Fear can end up "paralusing" someon to life, makign them stay clammed in,
by fear of being hurt by others, for instance. It can get to make them
hate life out of loving it and yet FEARING it, i.e. fearing to live it for
the flower moments, vcause hey, "a brick will surely come sooner or later".
Sure will...But if one by fear of the bricks closes up to all flower
moments, they then set themself up, in their yet tryign to avoid bricks,
to feel ONLY bricks fallign on them.
We all are bricks to others, too, each our turn, just as we can be
participating to a "flower" moment for one or many others here and there...
To be loved is to be loved while we both are broicks and flowers...To love
others then emans that too. Loving them evem if they are bricks at times,
while we expect or hope for flowers, maybe just cause we need some...
And to love life then also means to love and want to live BOTH the
flowers...and the bricks...Cause they both make the fabric of life...
Yeah, when life is tough, many want only the flowers...
They then stay away from people havign a hard time too, as they are in a
moment of brick overload or had one just before and need a break and need
to embrace all the flowers they can to not sink...
Some will remain there and never open up to others having a hard time. And
some have a hard time that will never oppenm up to others...In fact, maybe
the latter is how it all starts to grow to "uncaring apearances" after too
long moments of closing up....
> Ever
notice how fast LOVE can turn into HATE. Therefore HATE is > stronger.
As above...
Love is stronger, cause we akll noticed, and we all yet still seek loviong
and being loved.....
In fact, it is exactly cause we seek this that we sometimes fall for hatred...
Cause we want and seek love and the other(s) "
better give it or else"...Which is not a loving attitude and is for us to
overcome with love. Not for them: i.e. we can not change things for them.
At best we can impact on each other, sometimes positively, sometimes
negatively. But when we hate, we are sure to impact negatively on one
person: our self. In affecting our own love disposition toards life
itself, after a while of giving into hatred or resentment.
But thank "God", life is unfair and even then, flowers may happen at the
corner, out fo the blue,s for no more reason than the broicks that came
the corner before;-)
Hang in there....
Chloe
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Pish
> 1. No matter how hard you work at it, some people's dreams will never
> come true.
Very true even if you have realistic dreams for the average person for
you they will never be. Also if you have unrealistic dreams and can't
change them then I agree lifes not really worth it.
>
> 2. Bad things happen to good people. And they always will.
This isn't a reason for not living. As long as some good stuff
happens. And who actually chooses to be a 'bad' person. Why would
anyone want to be a 'bad' person. Why are people 'good' people?
Because it makes them feel good inside. To help people, to do charity,
to listen it makes you feel good. So IMHO there is no difference
between people. No one has a choice. Just DNA and environment. Case in
point a poster in this NG Darkfalz. The guy is obviously bitter and
would come over as a 'bad' person. Why is this? Environment/DNA. And
don't give crap about X has it has bad but didn't turn out like that.
Because some people can cope others can't.
> 3. Most people don't really care how YOU feel about life. And if they
> say they do it's probably just there job , or they want you to stop
> whining so they can get on with THERE lives.
This isn't true either. I know plently of people who care. I for one
am much more interested in how other people feel than talking about
myself. And if their proper friends or family they'd care. Obviously
people you hardly know or know only in superfical circumstances
shouldn't and don't usually care.
> 4. They tell you that everyone has a purpose in life. There just
> trying to dilute you into thinking that you do. When in actuality you
> don't.
No one on this Earth has a 'purpose' because if they did that would
require some sort of master plan. Again not a reason for not living.
> 5. They say love will save you, and love is the strongest human
> emotion. It's not, HATE is. It's the only emotion that overrides love.
> Ever notice how fast LOVE can turn into HATE. Therefore HATE is
> stronger.
If the world was run on hate it'd be a lot worse than it is now. Love
and hate need to go hand in hand. Without one there isn't the other.
Without a contrast how are you to know what each one feels like?
Romantic love often turns to hate because its a psycological addiction
to another person and not love in the purist sense.
I surprised myself in this post. I'm in a really depressed mood but
ain't negative/suicial as I thought I'd be. I really agree with point
1 though. If you know you've given your life aim the best shot you can
and still can't get it; lifes not worth it. You can always try and
find happiness in other things but then your just masking your true
feelings and once your dead there's nothing else to feel. You can't
regret killing yourself, even if you were to win the lottery the next
day and marry some goddess (who had nothing to do with the money) if
you kill yourself before all that happened you can't regret it. You
can't feel sorry for not experiencing happiness life can give because
your stone cold dead.
HumungousFungusAmongUs
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Eleonore Beaudoin
Think of it this way: if they keep on doing it again and again, then
obviously, it is in hope to get what they apparently nver got the
previous times, and most likely will not get the next either...
Read a thought today,and thought it sounded like my own way of thinking.
I smiled seing it was Ghandi's.
It read somethign like "You must be the change you want in the world".
And that is excatly what I decided to try and do, if I fail more often
than not, when I dfound out there was no loving persons in this world...
I then thought love was what I found lacked, and was needed, and therefore
I decided to try and give some, rather than wait passively to have some.
I can;t say it got me more love than before. But as bad as I may do, I'd
say a few more got love than if I had not decided to try -not as in romantic
interested love, but as in friendly/brotherly/sisterly love.
Whatever little bot of more love we can put in the world already is that
much more there is in the world;-). And in the moments when we manage to love,
it is always that much taken away from hatred and un-love in the world.
It can be a purpose like any other, after all;-)
Chloe
NightOwl
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drifter
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>
> 1. No matter how hard you work at it, some people's dreams will never
> come true.
Not necessarily. Like most things in life there are trade offs. What
do you want
and what price are you prepared to pay. For example, think of any
musician that plays
reasonably well. While you were playing ball, drinking and chasing
women, he was practicing.
You no longer play ball, you still drink, and women aren't interested in
you - but he can still
play and make beautiful music. (just an example)
>
> 2. Bad things happen to good people. And they always will.
Bad things and good things happen to all people. If you are a good
person, you have many options to every situation. If you are not a very
nice person, chances are you have pissed off every nice person you know
and
your options are few at the best of times.
>
> 3. Most people don't really care how YOU feel about life. And if they
> say they do it's probably just there job , or they want you to stop
> whining so they can get on with THERE lives.
Most good people do care how you feel about life. If you care, I care.
If you don't care, I still care.
Most people have a reasonably good life and they have better things to
do at any given moment than to just consider it their job to make you
feel good. Good people are usually clear headed enough to see when
some people they know or run into is having a difficult moment. They
may be willing to bend an ear and offer
a few suggestions to improve the person's situation. Whehter one
whines or not is of little importance to most people. You see, good
people are not used to seeing or hearing people whine. It is a rare
occasion that may be enjoyed. (For example, I worked with a women who
thew things or moved other people's stuff when she felt like it. Other
people I worked with got upset. I had never seen such conduct in my
life before except in the movies. I told there that while it upset
other people when she threw a fit, I thought it was very interesting and
enjoyed its uniqueness; however, I cautioned her that if she contined to
act inappropriately she risked being reported to high level management.
Shocked that it didn't bother me, she for the most part stopped such
antics) Unlike people who like to complain and hang around people who
complain all the time, these types of people hate whinners, especially
other whinners who may get more attention than they do.
> 4. They tell you that everyone has a purpose in life. There just
> trying to dilute you into thinking that you do. When in actuality you
> don't.
Only you can decide what you want to do with your life. If you are 21
and you life to 65, you only have 2,100 weekends left in your life.
That is not many so don't waste any time. Actually, everyone does have
a purpose in life. When I meet an ill mannered, ungrateful person, it
make me appreciate everyone else just a little bit more!
>
> 5. They say love will save you, and love is the strongest human
> emotion. It's not, HATE is. It's the only emotion that overrides love.
> Ever notice how fast LOVE can turn into HATE. Therefore HATE is
> stronger.
I say that I love everyone, some more and some less than others! It may
surprise you that hate even in its smallest amount is very
self-distructive. Hate hurts no one but the person hating. If you
physically act on hate, of course, it may physiclal harm some one else,
but anyone hating anyone else is just self-destructive.
If a person hates someone it is only a single person's emotion. If you
exhibit traits of hating, people will back away, ignore you, vanish from
your presence. Love on the other hand is an express of joy and people
can feel and see it in a person and they want to share that love. Even
if you can't speak the same laguage as the people around you, you can
tell someone is enjoying a loving moment.
Love is much strong. Hate may appear strong but only if you get others
to join you in your hate and everyone
in your company shares and focus on that hate but that is quite
different than taking two people one who expresses hate and one who
expresses love.
For example, when two people live together in love it lasts a lifetime
if all goes well. Two people who exhibit hate can life separate and
apart within days, months, weeks, years of their growing hate.
Hate leads to nothingness. Love leads to the best of the best.
drifter
I know what you are saying and to some extent it may appear to be true.
If you have lived long enough,
and sometimes good people die young, but bad people offen don't do as
well as you think.
Let me give you my best example. A guy boasted that he cheated my
father. Many years later
after my father died, he cheated my mother. Thousands of miles a way
and years later finding this
out, there was nothing I could do. I never let the man into my house.
I spoke politely and kept my
distance. Depending on which incident one refers to, it is 20 or 30
years later that this man's
favourte internationally talented son dies in an accident. The guy says
that he cries every day for the
loss of his son.
Many times I have heard of people cheating other people of lots of
money and years later I hear that they died at 45 or 55 of brain
cancer. One has to wonder if the stress of cheating lots of people has
an adverse
effect on a person's health.
My point is that don't be so quick to conclude that bad peole do better
or suffer less.
drifter
> >come true.
I wanted to comment furher on this point. At 40 I started learning to
play a
a musical instrument and started playing in a band. Soon I was invited
to play in 3 bands
and play 4 nights a week and we jammed on weekends, too. Since I had
just started to learn to play, I couldn't play all that well and didn't
sound all that good, but I had a wonderful time.
My point is this. I thought it was the greatest thing just to go down
to the local studio where
we used to rehears and I would also see some rather famous local bands
from time to time
rehearsing in the same studio. To me at 40 just being there was a dream
I never thought would
happen in a life time, playing in a band - 3 bands, but it did, step by
step.
But the sad part of this story is that some of these musicians, much,
much better than myself,
played since they were little kids dreamed of New York, and being famous
and making millions and having women at their feet at every command.
Now, maybe their dream will come true, but the point of all this is know
what you want, go for it but have reasonable expectations. And never
give up.
Here is my additude about life. I told the guy forming the band that I
wanted to try and play in the band but that I wasn't very good but I
wouldn't quit. He could tell me to f-ck off but I wouldn't leave. I
don't give up. He said I could join and I did and I stayed until the
band broke up and everybody went in different directions and
countries.
The reason I don't give up is that I am not a quick learner. Learning
is very difficult, so if I quit, nothing would ever happen.