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jim

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Sep 24, 2008, 4:04:15 PM9/24/08
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Hi Everyone,


I'm against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG. These People put us
in this position in the 1st place because of there Greed

Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a We
Deserve It Dividend.

To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide
U.S. Citizens 18+.

Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and
child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.

My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a We Deserve It Dividend.

Of course, it would NOT be tax free. So let's assume a tax rate of 30%.

Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes. That sends
$25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.

But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket. A
husband and wife has $595,000.00.

What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?

Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis solved.

Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads

Put away money for college - it'll be there Save in a bank - create
money to loan to entrepreneurs.

Buy a new car - create jobs

Invest in the market - capital drives growth

Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health care improves

Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean - or else

Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks
who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is
cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.

If we're going to re-distribute wealth let's really do it...instead of
trickling out a puny $1000.00 ( "vote buy" ) economic incentive that
is being proposed by one of our candidates for President.

If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every
adult U S Citizen 18+!

As for AIG - liquidate it.

Sell off its parts.

Let American General go back to being American General.

Sell off the real estate.

Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.

Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't.

Sure it's a crazy idea that can "never work."

But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!

How do you spell Economic Boom?

I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion
We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in
Washington DC .

And remember, The Birk plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because
$25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.

Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.

Kindest personal regards,

PS: Feel free to pass this along to your pals as it's either good for
a laugh or a tear or a very sobering thought on how to best use $85
Billion!!


Mason C

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Sep 25, 2008, 1:19:17 AM9/25/08
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On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:04:15 -0400, "jim" <jwhit...@nospampeoplepc.com>
wrote:

>Hi Everyone,
>
>
>I'm against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG. These People put us
>in this position in the 1st place because of there Greed
>
>
>
>Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a We
>Deserve It Dividend.
>
>
>
>To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide
>U.S. Citizens 18+.
>
>
>
>Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and
>child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..
>
>
>
>So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.

In the U.S. billion is 1,000,000,000 so the $85B would only give them $425.00

However, the new number is $700 billion in addition to the $80 billion.
Used with slight judiciousness that would take care of all the foreclosures.
With some unfairness and some corruption.

Will the proposed $700 billion fund be disbursed with less corruption and
greater justice?

The crisis is caused by the mortgage meltdown, "everyone" says and says again.

So fix it at its root and think of all the people in their homes and their
neighborhoods intact.

Mason A. Clark http://frontal-lobe.info
book: Greater America in the Age of Rebellion
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zaf...@yahoo.com

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Sep 25, 2008, 8:04:04 AM9/25/08
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On Sep 25, 1:19 am, Mason C <masonc...@XXXfrontal-lobe.info> wrote:
> So fix it at its root and think of all the people in their homes and their
> neighborhoods intact.
>

I'd no sooner bail out someone who bought a home they cannot afford
then an investment banker making 7 figures who contributes nothing to
society.

The meltdown happened when gullable people borrowed money they could
not pay back from greedy people who stuck others with the debt. I
highly recommend the humorous but probably right on explanation here:

http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2008/02/how-subprime-re.html

Derron

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Sep 24, 2008, 4:37:17 PM9/24/08
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Sorry, but $85,000,000,000.00 divided by 200,000,000 equals $425.00.

It won't be much of a block party after all.


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Don

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Sep 26, 2008, 3:27:54 PM9/26/08
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I thought they said $700,000,000,000

But that would only be $3,500 per person. Still not much.

Dan Wenz

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Sep 29, 2008, 10:10:05 AM9/29/08
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Thanks for the great presentation - I forwarded to daughter #1, whose
husband's a CPA/lawyer :-)

Ken

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Sep 29, 2008, 9:58:46 PM9/29/08
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On Sep 30, 12:10 am, Dan Wenz <djw...@comcast.net> wrote:
> zaf...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Sep 25, 1:19 am, Mason C <masonc...@XXXfrontal-lobe.info> wrote:
> >> So fix it at its root and think of all the people in their homes and their
> >> neighborhoods intact.
>
> > I'd no sooner bail out someone who bought a home they cannot afford
> > then an investment banker making 7 figures who contributes nothing to
> > society.
>
> > The meltdown happened when gullible people borrowed money they could

> > not pay back from greedy people who stuck others with the debt.  I
> > highly recommend the humorous but probably right on explanation here:
>
> >http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2008/02/how-subprime-re.html
>
> Thanks for the great presentation - I forwarded to daughter #1, whose
> husband's a CPA/lawyer :-)

Enough of this trivia. Does anyone believe that Sarah really shot that
moose, let alone disemboweled it?

Ken

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Sep 29, 2008, 11:34:27 PM9/29/08
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This is how you shoot a moose:

Killing Moose

Moose, although large and powerfully built, are not particularly hard
to kill with a well-placed, well-constructed bullet.

Shot Placement – I always recommend a lung shot. By aiming toward the
rear of the shoulder about 1/3 of the way up from the bottom of the
chest, you will hit the lungs on a moose standing broadside. A high
shot may hit the spine and a low shot may hit the heart. The lungs are
the largest lethal target on a moose, reducing the potential for
wounding loss. Also, a moose hit through both lungs will bleed out all
of the muscles through the damaged lung tissue as the moose dies. You
don't need to shoot again if your first shot into the lungs is true.
Often times a lung shot moose hit only once will calmly go back to
eating and will sag to the ground after a minute or two.


And this is how you dismantle it:

The Details of Field Dressing
Clear Your Working Area
Clean the immediate area around the animal so that you have room to
move, and to roll out the entrails. Plan ahead, choosing the lowest
ground around the animal for the entrails. Move the carcass if
necessary. Also clear an area leading away from the carcass, in the
direction you wish to move the animal away from the entrails for
transportation or quartering. Place the animal on its back, spreading
the rear legs using ropes or having your partners hold them apart. If
you have several people, or additional rope, do the same with the
front legs.

Bleed The Animal
A heart-lung shot usually provides adequate bleeding. However, to
ensure bleeding, insert a sharp knife into the shallow cavity at the
base of the throat and slice across the main blood vessels with a wide
and deep, crosswise cut. This opens the jugular veins that run from
the heart to the head. Since the animal is dead, blood flow is by
gravity. Allow the blood to flow away from the animal, clearing the
ground when necessary.

Preparatory Skin Cuts, Throat to Anus
Starting at the breastbone, just below the rib cage, use a sharp knife
cutting the skin in a straight line to the neck and base of the jaw.
Complete the process by cutting through the muscles to the bone of the
ribcage and higher, exposing the windpipe and gullet.

Cut the skin from the base of the ribs downward over the middle of the
belly, in a straight line, to the anus, taking care to cut around the
genitals slightly. The genitals must be left on one hind quarter in
Ontario, for sex identification. Once these cuts are done, prepare to
eviscerate the animal.

Break the Breastbone
With the breastbone exposed, use two axes to cut through the
breastbone. Use your sharpest axe as the cutting tool, the second as a
hammer, driving the cutter from the base of the ribcage, up the middle
of the breastbone, through the top ribs. As the cut enlarges, pull the
front legs apart opening the chest cavity.

Sever the Wind Pipe and Gullet from the Head
With the chest cavity open, sever the windpipe and gullet as close to
the head as possible, pulling it clear of the carcass, cutting where
necessary. When free of the neck, lay in the chest cavity.

Open the Abdomen to the Anus
With the chest spread open, and the neck area clean, move to opening
the abdomen. From the base of the ribcage, carefully cut through the
abdominal muscles, exposing the stomach and intestines, without
puncturing them. Have your partners spread the abdomen to open the
area for easy work.

As you approach the pelvic area, take precautions to avoid cutting the
bladder. Cut through the muscles to the pelvic bone, exposing it for
the next procedure.

Split the Pelvic Bone
Starting at the top of the pelvis (closest to the abdomen), using the
two axe method described above, split the pelvic bone, taking care to
stay clear of the genitals. Avoid cutting the urinary tract, which
could release urine, tainting the meat.

Cut the Diaphragm from the Cavity Wall
This procedure is one that requires patience and care. You must start
at on side of the chest cavity near the base of the ribs cutting the
diaphragm at the chest cavity wall. As you move deeper into the
cavity, you may need help from a few hands to pull the organs to one
side so that you have rooms to see and cut. Cut as far back along the
cavity wall as is possible. Switch to the other side of the chest
cavity, repeating the actions. Most likely, some of the diaphragm will
remain attached. Leave the remainder for later.

Free the Anus and Bladder
The most important procedure is the separation of the anus from the
carcass and the pelvic area. Extreme care must be taken not to cut the
intestines and the urinary tract, which could taint the meat. At the
opened pelvic bone, use a sharp knife to make cuts to free the large
intestine and rectum from the pelvic area. Extra hands are helpful to
pull the organs to one side or the other to clear the working area.
Proceed until working in this area until the rectum meets the muscle
tissue near the anus.


What a woman!!!! She should make short work of Biden.


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Dr. Michael W. Ridenhour

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Sep 30, 2008, 7:52:52 AM9/30/08
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I guess sexism isn't just an American phenomenon.
Little woman! Can't think for herself, can't do any heavy lifting.
"Honey, why don't you find a nice strong man to hunt and think for you.?"

You guys are such hypocrites. Does your hypocrisy filter into your
pronouncements about hearing issues, Ken?

Michael

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Dr. Michael W. Ridenhour

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Oct 1, 2008, 7:24:40 AM10/1/08
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d'Wooluf wrote:
> Forgive Ken. Australian women can disembowel a kangaroo with a
> pen-knife in under five minutes but generally need help with anything
> larger than a feral camel. Moose-killing female republicans are beyond
> our experience.
>

Yeah, I was too hard on one of the most valuable members of this group.
Sorry Ken.

She was called Sarah Barracuda in high school, you know.

Michael

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