This last week had an anaphylaxis reaction to dairy food eaten at a cafe. It was scary! I've been allergic to dairy for years, but had smaller reactions. This time it affected my heart, lungs, feeling faint, severe congestion in head and chest, tingling around the mouth and a few hives. It did happen slowly, so I could treat it.
Have any of you had a reaction go from rash/hives and congestion to anaphylaxis? I thought my reactions would always stay about the same. This was more serious and the E/R nurse and a doctor warned me I'm paying with my life if I eat dairy again. They said the reactions could continue to get more serious and sometime it could go fast enough I would be in trouble. JJ
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<mysc...@webtv.net> wrote: > This last week had an anaphylaxis reaction to dairy food eaten at a > cafe. It was scary! I've been allergic to dairy for years, but had > smaller reactions. This time it affected my heart, lungs, feeling > faint, severe congestion in head and chest, tingling around the mouth > and a few hives. It did happen slowly, so I could treat it.
> Have any of you had a reaction go from rash/hives and congestion to > anaphylaxis? I thought my reactions would always stay about the same. > This was more serious and the E/R nurse and a doctor warned me I'm > paying with my life if I eat dairy again. They said the reactions could > continue to get more serious and sometime it could go fast enough I > would be in trouble. > JJ
I think this would be a very good time to see a specialist: an allergist. As an adult, and with a history of stable allergy to milk for many years, it seems at least a good possibility that your severe reaction was due to a totally different substance. Assuming that it was due to milk, as did the ER nurse and the doctor, leaves you free to eat everything else that you may have consumed at the cafe, some part of which might cause the severe reaction again. It is certainly possible for an established food allergy to suddenly change in intensity, but is not the usual course of events, and other factors must be suspected. I would agree with the need for you to avoid milk for the present, but while you are waiting for your allergy appointment I suggest you return to that cafe and reconstruct your meal, speaking with the chef about the recipes and cooking techniques. Larry
As you have been warned, from this point on you are playing with your life if you continue to ingest dairy products. It is not at all unusual for an allergy to kick into high gear like this, which is why food allergies have the potential to become life threatening. I had the misfortune to watch my partner go into anaphylaxis while eating seafood at a restaurant. Scared the wits out of the young kid waiting on us - thought he had killed a customer his first week on the job. Anyway, find yourself a really good calcium supplement and/or do a web search for other food sources of calcium. Of course, it may not have been a reaction to dairy food in general. It is possible that you were reacting to a specific cheese mold rather than to the milk. For example, Cheddar makes me wheeze and I get hives from Provolone, but I can eat yogurt, sour cream, and Havarti cheese with no problem. Were you eating a cheese that you do not usually eat. You are going to eat whatever you choose regardless of what doctors or anyone here has to say about it (I speak from experience). At least keep in mind the possible seriousness of your food choices. Best of luck, Marigold
> This last week had an anaphylaxis reaction to dairy food eaten at a > cafe. It was scary! I've been allergic to dairy for years, but had > smaller reactions. This time it affected my heart, lungs, feeling > faint, severe congestion in head and chest, tingling around the mouth > and a few hives. It did happen slowly, so I could treat it.
> Have any of you had a reaction go from rash/hives and congestion to > anaphylaxis? I thought my reactions would always stay about the same. > This was more serious and the E/R nurse and a doctor warned me I'm > paying with my life if I eat dairy again. They said the reactions could > continue to get more serious and sometime it could go fast enough I > would be in trouble. > JJ
I have been tested both rast and skin for dairy allergy and have been identified. I am usually careful, but the cafe "dressed" the salad with a special dressing they made and it was creamy, and had some grated cheese, Parmeasan I think. I didn't think about what I was eating I was into the conversation with a friend. I will be much more careful in the future and will see my allergist again. I just scared me to have such a violent reaction. They also say I'm allergic to egg whites, but have never seen any reaction when I eat them. I do get sick from milk and dairy products and have for years.
It's so hard to eat out, you can't always trust what the wait staff says. Sometimes I also get side tracted and forget and have a bite of something wrong. I don't use dairy at home at all. I will always be more careful from now on!!! JJ
<mysc...@webtv.net> wrote: > I have been tested both rast and skin for dairy allergy and have been > identified. I am usually careful, but the cafe "dressed" the salad with > a special dressing they made and it was creamy, and had some grated > cheese, Parmeasan I think. I didn't think about what I was eating I was > into the conversation with a friend. I will be much more careful in the > future and will see my allergist again. I just scared me to have such a > violent reaction. They also say I'm allergic to egg whites, but have > never seen any reaction when I eat them. I do get sick from milk and > dairy products and have for years.
> It's so hard to eat out, you can't always trust what the wait staff > says. Sometimes I also get side tracted and forget and have a bite of > something wrong. I don't use dairy at home at all. I will always be > more careful from now on!!! > JJ
Once again, before you see your allergist go to the restaurant, reconstruct your meal, talk with the chef, ask to see the packages of the components of your meal, make a list - your allergist will want all this information. If you do it now it may save a second visit with the allergist (after you have gone back to the restaurant), and the sooner you do it the more likely you are to be able to collect full information.
signed, an allergist who has been through this many times.
I advise you to THINK hard before you put it in your mouth. We lost a 10 year old boy this week who had a anaphylaxis reaction. Not my boy but the friens(best) of my son.
> I have been tested both rast and skin for dairy allergy and have been > identified. I am usually careful, but the cafe "dressed" the salad with > a special dressing they made and it was creamy, and had some grated > cheese, Parmeasan I think. I didn't think about what I was eating I was > into the conversation with a friend. I will be much more careful in the > future and will see my allergist again. I just scared me to have such a > violent reaction. They also say I'm allergic to egg whites, but have > never seen any reaction when I eat them. I do get sick from milk and > dairy products and have for years.
> It's so hard to eat out, you can't always trust what the wait staff > says. Sometimes I also get side tracted and forget and have a bite of > something wrong. I don't use dairy at home at all. I will always be > more careful from now on!!! > JJ
In article <9i6v0d$iek...@reader03.wxs.nl>, Pieter Brons
<pjbr...@planet.nl> wrote: > I advise you to THINK hard before you put it in your mouth. > We lost a 10 year old boy this week who had a anaphylaxis reaction. > Not my boy but the friens(best) of my son.
> P
This is a terrible event. What was the causative agent? Larry
I'm amazed at how resistant the cafe is to giving out the ingredients of a meal!!! Just asking if it contained dairy, got me angry glares, and they didn't want to talk. I did force the issue to see what was in the food. I live in small town America and they seem years behind the rest of the world. I am asking about everything now. I've seen 3 allergist over the last several years. Their responses to food allergies is amazing. One said never eat another dairy product as long as your live. The next said "I don't deal with it, if you're not anaphylaxis, I don't care what you do." But never explained what an anaphylaxis reaction would be. The next said, "if you are anaphylaxis, then don't eat the food, otherwise splurge a little." He encourages all his patients to not be too strict, if they don't end up in the hospital. Sometimes it's confusing to me, each doctor has said something else. I'm learning for my self. I have had several E/R visits for asthma, systemic allergic reactions, etc. My doctor doesn't seem too concerned. I live 75 miles from the nearest city with an allergist. JJ
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<mysc...@webtv.net> wrote: > I'm amazed at how resistant the cafe is to giving out the ingredients of > a meal!!! Just asking if it contained dairy, got me angry glares, and > they didn't want to talk. I did force the issue to see what was in the > food.
For our interest, please tell us what was in what you ate on that eventful day. I am sorry to hear that you had difficulty with your contacts at the restaurant. I hope you spoke with the manager. If you did not get full satisfaction, you might go back and say, "I hope we can get this done without involving my lawyer and the Health Department." Larry
I am always amazed at what my allergists and doctors have told me. My GP told me that it is impossible to be allergic to something that is good for you and your body needs. One allergist told me I had to get rid of my cats or else I could die (I'm not allergic to cats and I fired that doctor). Etc, etc. Some people feel that allergies change over time (mine have) and if you have a mild reaction now, one day it could turn around and bite you in the butt, so you have to eliminate the food. Others feel that if you rotate your foods then you will be fine with your allergy. Of course, if you are truly anaphylactic, then you do have to eliminate the food.
On Sun, 8 Jul 2001 14:02:43 -0700 (PDT), mysc...@webtv.net wrote: >I'm amazed at how resistant the cafe is to giving out the ingredients of >a meal!!! Just asking if it contained dairy, got me angry glares, and >they didn't want to talk. I did force the issue to see what was in the >food. I live in small town America and they seem years behind the rest >of the world. I am asking about everything now. >I've seen 3 allergist over the last several years. Their responses to >food allergies is amazing. One said never eat another dairy product as >long as your live. The next said "I don't deal with it, if you're not >anaphylaxis, I don't care what you do." But never explained what an >anaphylaxis reaction would be. The next said, "if you are anaphylaxis, >then don't eat the food, otherwise splurge a little." He encourages all >his patients to not be too strict, if they don't end up in the hospital. >Sometimes it's confusing to me, each doctor has said something else. I'm >learning for my self. I have had several E/R visits for asthma, >systemic allergic reactions, etc. My doctor doesn't seem too concerned. >I live 75 miles from the nearest city with an allergist. >JJ