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Barbara Schwarz

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Nov 18, 2009, 4:34:28 PM11/18/09
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I have not tried to get a posting account with the RFW, and I will not
post there if you do not explain that the Marty Rathbun who you have
on there is not the original Marty, my Marty.

However, it came to my attention that others applied and can't post,
and they run in the same problem as Scientologists who want to post on
the message board of Heldal Lund. They can't. Lund won't approve their
application.

I know from somebody (not Christian hate monger Neal Warren who tried
also to post there as Captain Neal) that he has valuable information
about certain extremists on the RFW and that this person can't make
one single posting on the RFW despite this never posted one bad word
about Scientology and never used criticsm on David Miscavige. This
poster is not a hate monger and can't add his valuable information.

I think by telling people that they can post on the RFW, make them
open an account and then not letting them post one single posting, the
RFW could turn even allies into their critics.

It is not wise.


It would be better to allow people to post but to moderate and not
publish those postings who are violating the purpose of the RFW.

RFW moderator, can't you just read the postings, one by one and make a
decision for each posting as to publish it or not?

Even if somebody applies through a proxy or hushmail or whatever,
allow him or her to post, because if the content of the posting is
okay, what's the problem?

Blocking posters who actually supported the RFW is really stupid.

But keep on blocking Capt. Neal. He is from hell.


Barbara Schwarz


Gregory Hall

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Nov 18, 2009, 4:45:21 PM11/18/09
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"Barbara Schwarz" <BarbaraSc...@excite.com> wrote in message
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I agree with this posting of yours Barbara. It is extremely low tone for the
Scientologists who operate RFW to censor people before they even get the
chance to post a single post.

Are they in the business of collecting valid e-mail addresses so they can
spam them or sell them to spam lists? But, I suspect people not being able
to acquire posting privileges has more to do with the stupidity or
ineptitude of the amateurs who are trying to run the message board than an
organized attempt to stifle opposing opinions.

If somebody posts an offensive post then they can delete it and warn the
author. But, if they don't let anybody but a few hand-picked insiders post
then the forum is just laughable propaganda that does them more harm than
good.

--
Gregory Hall


Barbara Schwarz

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Nov 18, 2009, 4:47:31 PM11/18/09
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On Nov 18, 3:45 pm, "Gregory Hall" <gregh...@home.fake> wrote:
> "

Plonk.

Gregory Hall

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Nov 18, 2009, 5:04:32 PM11/18/09
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"Barbara Schwarz" <BarbaraSc...@excite.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 18, 3:45 pm, "Gregory Hall" <gregh...@home.fake> wrote:
> "

Plonk.


============================

Women! I agree with this spoiled child and she plonks me. Go figure. Or
perhaps she's jealous because I'm paying attention to Monica?


--
Gregory Hall


Roadrunner

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:07:00 AM11/19/09
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On 18 Nov, 22:34, Barbara Schwarz <BarbaraSchwarz2...@excite.com>
wrote:

> I have not tried to get a posting account with the RFW, and I will not
> post there if you do not explain that the Marty Rathbun who you have
> on there is not the original Marty, my Marty.
>
> However, it came to my attention that others applied and can't post,
> and they run in the same problem as Scientologists who want to post on
> the message board of Heldal Lund. They can't. Lund won't approve their
> application.
>
> I know from somebody (not Christian hate monger Neal Warren who tried
> also to post there as Captain Neal) that he has valuable information
> about certain extremists on the RFW and that this person can't make
> one single posting on the RFW despite this never posted one bad word
> about Scientology and never used criticsm on David Miscavige. This
> poster is not a hate monger and can't add his valuable information.
>
> I think by telling people that they can post on the RFW, make them
> open an account and then not letting them post one single posting, the
> RFW could turn even allies into their critics.
>
> It is not wise.

I don't think it got anything to do with being wise or not, it is ecce
homo, i.e. stimulus-response.

RR

Eldon

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:25:25 AM11/19/09
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On Nov 18, 10:45 pm, "Gregory Hall" <gregh...@home.fake> wrote:
> "Barbara Schwarz" <BarbaraSchwarz2...@excite.com> wrote in message

They aren't letting anybody register there. The registration bit is
just to make it look like a discussion. I registered and got back an e-
mail saying my application would be moderated and I would receive an
approval e-mail. That was the end of it.

Peter Schilte

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Nov 19, 2009, 10:01:27 AM11/19/09
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Same here, after my first account was not activated and deleted
instead. (I used my real name, is that a problem?)

Peter

"Remember one thing, we are not running a business, we are
running a government.
We are in direct control of people's lives.
But for the first time we are not making victims of them,
we are making them more able.
So bring order into these
people's lives."
- HCO Secretary WW2
© 1975 L. Ron Hubbard Library

http://www.scamofscientology.nl

Maureen

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Nov 19, 2009, 10:02:49 AM11/19/09
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So the culties can have two way convo's with each other to hatefully
frame critics.
Their propaganda is laughable.

From the operating end, it must keep a few culties away form the news
about $cientology's criminality in Australia and Kubark tax exemption
all over the. world, from reality.


Maureen


Maureen

Barbara loves Marty

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Nov 19, 2009, 11:14:30 AM11/19/09
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On Nov 19, 8:07 am, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 18 Nov, 22:34, Barbara Schwarz <BarbaraSchwarz2...@excite.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I have not tried to get a posting account with the RFW, and I will not
> > post there if you do not explain that theMartyRathbunwho you have

> > on there is not the originalMarty, myMarty.
>
> > However, it came to my attention that others applied and can't post,
> > and they run in the same problem as Scientologists who want to post on
> > the message board of Heldal Lund. They can't. Lund won't approve their
> > application.
>
> > I know from somebody (not Christian hate monger Neal Warren who tried
> > also to post there as Captain Neal) that he has valuable information
> > about certain extremists on the RFW and that this person can't make
> > one single posting on the RFW despite this never posted one bad word
> > about Scientology and never used criticsm on David Miscavige. This
> > poster is not a hate monger and can't add his valuable information.
>
> > I think by telling people that they can post on the RFW, make them
> > open an account and then not letting them post one single posting, the
> > RFW could turn even allies into their critics.
>
> > It is not wise.
>
> I don't think it got anything to do with being wise or not, it is ecce
> homo, i.e. stimulus-response.
>
> RR

But it is unwise, RR. Because non-hate mongers apply also to post on
the RFW. They waste time to open an e-mail account and try to register
and RFW does not reply. That creates more antagonism against the RFW.

Either they make it clear that it is an inside discussion only or they
approve the applications.

I am not saying that they should publish hate monger postings. They
could choose posting by posting the content and then publish the
postings that are supporting their mission.

Why can't people think their actions through?

Barbara Schwarz


>
>
>
>
>
> > It would be better to allow people to post but to moderate and not
> > publish those postings who are violating the purpose of the RFW.
>
> > RFW moderator, can't you just read the postings, one by one and make a
> > decision for each posting as to publish it or not?
>
> > Even if somebody applies through a proxy or hushmail  or whatever,
> > allow him or her to post, because if the content of the posting is
> > okay, what's the problem?
>
> > Blocking posters who actually supported the RFW is really stupid.
>
> > But keep on blocking Capt. Neal. He is from hell.
>

> > Barbara Schwarz- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Barbara loves Marty

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Nov 19, 2009, 11:19:18 AM11/19/09
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On Nov 19, 8:25 am, Eldon <EldonB...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Nov 18, 10:45 pm, "Gregory Hall" <gregh...@home.fake> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Barbara Schwarz" <BarbaraSchwarz2...@excite.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:22b0324a-dbc5-4cf0...@v30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > >I have not tried to get a posting account with the RFW, and I will not
> > > post there if you do not explain that theMartyRathbunwho you have
> approval e-mail. That was the end of it.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

That is exactly what I mean. Not just hate mongers register, friends
of the RFW too who have valuable information, and they are
disappointed that they are being arrogantly ignored and can't post
that information.

RFW still can moderate the postings but it could publish these
postings that are fulfilling the mission of the RFW.

This is so unwise. L. Ron Hubbard Scientologists are so much smarter
than DM Scientologists.

Barbara Schwarz

Eldon

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Nov 19, 2009, 11:22:47 AM11/19/09
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I think so. It only takes a few seconds on Google to discover that
we're nasty SPs.

Roadrunner

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Nov 19, 2009, 6:54:59 PM11/19/09
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On 19 Nov, 17:14, Barbara loves Marty <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com>
wrote:

B'cause man has adopted the reality that has been created for them.

RR

Barbara loves Marty

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Nov 21, 2009, 8:20:54 PM11/21/09
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On Nov 19, 5:54 pm, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 19 Nov, 17:14, Barbara loves Marty <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 19, 8:07 am, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 18 Nov, 22:34, Barbara Schwarz <BarbaraSchwarz2...@excite.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > I have not tried to get a posting account with theRFW, and I will not

> > > > post there if you do not explain that theMartyRathbunwho you have
> > > > on there is not the originalMarty, myMarty.
>
> > > > However, it came to my attention that others applied and can't post,
> > > > and they run in the same problem as Scientologists who want to post on
> > > > the message board of Heldal Lund. They can't. Lund won't approve their
> > > > application.
>
> > > > I know from somebody (not Christian hate monger Neal Warren who tried
> > > > also to post there as Captain Neal) that he has valuable information
> > > > about certain extremists on theRFWand that this person can't make
> > > > one single posting on theRFWdespite this never posted one bad word

> > > > about Scientology and never used criticsm on David Miscavige. This
> > > > poster is not a hate monger and can't add his valuable information.
>
> > > > I think by telling people that they can post on theRFW, make them

> > > > open an account and then not letting them post one single posting, the
> > > >RFWcould turn even allies into their critics.

>
> > > > It is not wise.
>
> > > I don't think it got anything to do with being wise or not, it is ecce
> > > homo, i.e. stimulus-response.
>
> > > RR
>
> > But it is unwise, RR. Because non-hate mongers apply also to post on
> > theRFW. They waste time to open an e-mail account and try to register
> > andRFWdoes not reply. That creates more antagonism against theRFW.

>
> > Either they make it clear that it is an inside discussion only or they
> > approve the applications.
>
> > I am not saying that they should publish hate monger postings. They
> > could choose posting by posting the content and then publish the
> > postings that are supporting their mission.
>
> > Why can't people think their actions through?
>
> B'cause man has adopted the reality that has been created for them.
>
> RR

That is not how Scientologists should be. Thinking for oneself, that
is what a real Scientologist does.

Barbara Schwarz


>
>
>
> > Barbara Schwarz
>
> > > > It would be better to allow people to post but to moderate and not
> > > > publish those postings who are violating the purpose of theRFW.
>

> > > >RFWmoderator, can't you just read the postings, one by one and make a


> > > > decision for each posting as to publish it or not?
>
> > > > Even if somebody applies through a proxy or hushmail  or whatever,
> > > > allow him or her to post, because if the content of the posting is
> > > > okay, what's the problem?
>

> > > > Blocking posters who actually supported theRFWis really stupid.

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