Thetans without bodies, you can find then anywhere and right in your neighborhood
Barbara loves Marty
They are not paranormal. They are thetans, people without bodies. He
calls them spiritual identities.
You can find a book on Google scholar about orbs
(thetans) but I don't think anybody on Earth explained these orbs as
detailed and exact as L. Ron Hubbard did when describing the thetan.
The book is called: The Orb Project
These guys don't now too much about the subject but they are catching
slowly on what L. Ron Hubbard said much clearer already over 50 years
ago.
Below book provides tips as to how to photograph orbs:
The Orb Project, check on Google scholars:
There are lots of hoaxes on the Internet. But orbs are no hoaxes. They
are thetans without bodies.
If you believe that people just make them up or that they are just
dust, take a camera and go
out into the night take pictures of them or are a coward?
I have seen footage of thetans in fast motion and they almost bumped
into person. But when they saw the
person in front of them, they immediately changed the course and flew
in fast paste into another direction. A dust particle does not do
that. That orb (thetan) acted just like a person. If you run and
suddenly somebody stands in your way, you stop and you take another
direction. This is exactly what this orb (thetan) did.
L. Ron Hubbard had said that the thetan consists of a tiny bit of
matter and an infiltrator changed it then
to that a thetan has no matter whatsoever. A thetan is immortal but as
it has a tiny bit of matter, a thetan
can be destroyed. And that is why the creed of Scientology says that
the thetan should have the same
rights as a person.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mpJVo8phVc&feature=related
Thetans are orbs, if L. Ron Hubbard would be here, he would tell you
that I am right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpwEGzIrhEw&feature=related
Thetans! Amazing pictures of them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CIFkXzjBAM
You will first believe that it isn't a hoax if you go out in the dark
with your infrared or digital camera
and see them yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq2gCqz3T8o&feature=related
Again, they are thetans. And most of these these guys want bodies.
They are just like you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0_AAaibz6I&feature=related
This one is a great one, there you can see the thetan fly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N71PXxydjl4&feature=related
It is easy to prove that these orbs are thetans. Film somebody dying
and you will see that such an "orb",
a thetan emerges from the dead body.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmGTuuI2TRQ&feature=fvw
Close up thetans.Do you know slightly wonder how you look like without
body? The blue red and white one
must have been surely an American patriot when he had a body. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56GNf_6XaYg&feature=related
You could friendly interact with them. Tell them stories or play them
nice peaceful music and look how
they react.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNOhu9ZD7lE&feature=fvw
They are no angels. They are thetans without body. If they would have
a body they would be like people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiC_7zHYPwA&feature=related
Lol. The dog is a lot more scary than the orb.
Barbara Yates, the photographer said in a Youtube video that when she
and her friend do not see orbs right
away, they are calling them. I assume that they just call names at
random, like John, Susan, Joe, Linda, etc.
and there, they come, the thetans without bodies.
Barbara Schwarz
Gregory Hall
news:ed6d9b32-e622-4623...@e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
A bunch of bogus videos with lens flare and dust specs - even snow flakes.
Some people will believe ANYTHING without any proof. You sure wasted a lot
of your time watching these bogus videos, Barbara. If nothing else the
spooky music should tell you something - brainwashing.
You can't see them with the naked eye but you can see them with a camera.
What's the difference? Dirty lenses, electronic noise, film and processing
defects and in one there was a flashlight or laser pointer moving around.
So low tone!
--
Gregory Hall
Barbara loves Marty
> "Barbara loves Marty" <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:ed6d9b32-e622-4623...@e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
Stay out of my threads. Make your own once, if you like but stay away
from me.
You are a coward, anything that is not your ridiculous false belief
that Jesus will come for you sinner and forgive you for all your
horrible crimes, you can't confront.
You are anti-science.
Barbara Schwarz
>
>
>
>
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yEHaszh6Nc
>
> > They are not paranormal. They are thetans, people without bodies. He
> > calls them spiritual identities.
>
> > You can find a book on Google scholar about orbs
> > (thetans) but I don't think anybody on Earth explained these orbs as
> > detailed and exact as L. Ron Hubbard did when describing the thetan.
>
> > The book is called: The Orb Project
>
> > These guys don't now too much about the subject but they are catching
> > slowly on what L. Ron Hubbard said much clearer already over 50 years
> > ago.
>
> > Below book provides tips as to how to photograph orbs:
>
> > The Orb Project, check on Google scholars:
>
> >http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=spdncZr4kncC&oi=fnd&pg=PR9...
> Gregory Hall- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Barbara loves Marty
<barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
I double dare anybody to go out there as these people did. (Neal
Warren is afraid that he sees something that shakes his belief from
the middle ages that there is only the Holy Ghost and no other
spirituality.)
Clean your cameras very well.
Neal is coward. He is afraid to see these beings. Do you have more
guts?
Barbara Schwarz
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yEHaszh6Nc
>
> They are not paranormal. They are thetans, people without bodies. He
> calls them spiritual identities.
>
> You can find a book on Google scholar about orbs
> (thetans) but I don't think anybody on Earth explained these orbs as
> detailed and exact as L. Ron Hubbard did when describing the thetan.
>
> The book is called: The Orb Project
>
> These guys don't now too much about the subject but they are catching
> slowly on what L. Ron Hubbard said much clearer already over 50 years
> ago.
>
> Below book provides tips as to how to photograph orbs:
>
> The Orb Project, check on Google scholars:
>
> http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=spdncZr4kncC&oi=fnd&pg=PR9...
I
Barbara loves Marty
The Orb Project is a book was written by two scientists.
They do not say that orbs are thetans but they acknowledge that they
are spiritual entities. They know a lot more about it than ignorant
and arrogant Neal Warren.
Neal Warren dismisses anything that is not in the bible that was also
just written by people.
Barbara Schwarz
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yEHaszh6Nc
>
> They are not paranormal. They are thetans, people without bodies. He
> calls them spiritual identities.
>
> You can find a book on Google scholar about orbs
> (thetans) but I don't think anybody on Earth explained these orbs as
> detailed and exact as L. Ron Hubbard did when describing the thetan.
>
> The book is called: The Orb Project
>
> These guys don't now too much about the subject but they are catching
> slowly on what L. Ron Hubbard said much clearer already over 50 years
> ago.
>
> Below book provides tips as to how to photograph orbs:
>
> The Orb Project, check on Google scholars:
>
> http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=spdncZr4kncC&oi=fnd&pg=PR9...
Gregory Hall
> Stay out of my threads. Make your own once, if you like but stay away
> from me.
>
> You are a coward, anything that is not your ridiculous false belief
> that Jesus will come for you sinner and forgive you for all your
> horrible crimes, you can't confront.
>
> You are anti-science.
>
> Barbara Schwarz
Temper, temper Sweetie! Relax. Take a chill pill. (That's a beer, btw.)
I have just as much right to reply to your posts as you have to post them so
don't go around acting like you own threads - you don't. A reasonable woman
would not make ridiculous demands but would ask nicely. Something like this:
"Gregory, I'd be pleased if you would stop replying to so many of the
threads I start. You're always very negative and I rather like to keep
things positive and upbeat. So, as a favor to me, be a dear and give me some
space once in a while. If you would be nice to me I might let you e-mail me
again."
See, something nice like that might give you better results. Making
unreasonable demands in not very productive.
As for me being anti-science that is ludicrous. I am very pro-science so I
don't mind pointing out bogus science when I see it. Those videos are cute
but they certainly are anything but scientific.
--
Gregory Hall
Barbara loves Marty
> "Barbara loves Marty" <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:4a115975-e03c-495f...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
And you also read the scientific book of those two scientists "The Orb
Project" within the few minutes in which these postings were made by
me.
Pull me leg.
You are afraid of the truth and that is all about your manliness. I
have a lot more guts that you ever had.
I am also not afraid of science.
That the universities ignored the subject sofar just means that they
dumb not that these spiritual entities do not exists.
The proof is there for anybody to see. Just get a camera and start
filming. Instead knowing everything better without even having looked.
Barbara Schwarz
Barbara loves Marty
Do not e-mail me, Neal. I have no time to waste with unscientific
abusers.
BTW, you love letter had lots of "I need you" in it. You can check any
love posting of mine to the original Marty Rathbun, I never post "I
need you" because I rather love and put my "needs" on the back burner
as I love unconditionally and not for any gain. But you don't love,
you want because you need. Thanks a lot.
Anyway, back to the thetans:
Old people who will die soon should volunteer that their death being
filmed with a great clean camera and then we see the thetan emerging.
How about Shirely agreeing or you? Let's see on film what small little
clauds you "souls" are. But I'll better not around when you drop your
body, Neal, as you would attach yourself 100 % to me as body thetan
and then I have to audit you away...
Barbara Schwarz
--
Garry (Gary Lynn) Scarff in Los Angeles keeps on lying about me
cowardly and defaming me behind posting identities Smurf and
AngryGayPope. He lies to Anonymous and anybody else and they are
clueless about how he trolls them. The information on the RFW about
notorious liar Garry Scarff who does anything for money and fame are
true: http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/anti-religious-extremists/garry-scarff/
Here is a small sample of what psychiatric drug consuming Scarff did
to me in the past:
http://de.nntp2http.com/soc/weltanschauung/scientology/2009/10/590f4036a35b3d86e04b38e37282ab04.html
> > Barbara Schwarz- Hide quoted text -
Gregory Hall
> Do not e-mail me, Neal. I have no time to waste with unscientific
> abusers.
> BTW, you love letter had lots of "I need you" in it. You can check any
> love posting of mine to the original Marty Rathbun, I never post "I
> need you" because I rather love and put my "needs" on the back burner
> as I love unconditionally and not for any gain. But you don't love,
> you want because you need. Thanks a lot.
Don't blame me. That was a cut and paste love letter from a web site to
save time. I could write a much nicer one but until you are much nicer to me
why should I waste my time and effort knowing you will just pick anything I
do apart?
> Anyway, back to the thetans:
>
> Old people who will die soon should volunteer that their death being
> filmed with a great clean camera and then we see the thetan emerging.
>
> How about Shirely agreeing or you? Let's see on film what small little
> clauds you "souls" are. But I'll better not around when you drop your
> body, Neal, as you would attach yourself 100 % to me as body thetan
> and then I have to audit you away...
Ah HA! I just had some insight into why you Scientologists are so grumpy all
the time. It's because you believe this thetan nonsense and you believe
thetans can live forever and inhabit millions of different bodies throughout
time.
This means that if you don't like somebody and they like you then you can
NEVER get away from them. They can jump into any new body and become your
lover in another life just by claiming they are the same thetan that was in
de Rothschild's body. Now, THAT's insecurity. You'd be better off if you
were a Christian because with only one body none of this crazy stuff can
happen.
--
Gregory Hall
Barbara Schwarz
> "Barbara loves Marty" <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:a676fc2c-2fd6-486b...@e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Do not e-mail me, Neal. I have no time to waste with unscientific
> > abusers.
> > BTW, you love letter had lots of "I need you" in it. You can check any
> > love posting of mine to the original Marty Rathbun, I never post "I
> > need you" because I rather love and put my "needs" on the back burner
> > as I love unconditionally and not for any gain. But you don't love,
> > you want because you need. Thanks a lot.
>
> Don't blame me. That was a cut and paste love letter from a web site to
> save time. I could write a much nicer one but until you are much nicer to me
> why should I waste my time and effort knowing you will just pick anything I
> do apart?
Cut and paper love letter? Oh my God, nothing about you is original.
> > Anyway, back to the thetans:
>
> > Old people who will die soon should volunteer that their death being
> > filmed with a great clean camera and then we see the thetan emerging.
>
> > How about Shirely agreeing or you? Let's see on film what small little
> > clauds you "souls" are. But I'll better not around when you drop your
> > body, Neal, as you would attach yourself 100 % to me as body thetan
> > and then I have to audit you away...
>
> Ah HA! I just had some insight into why you Scientologists are so grumpy all
> the time.
I am not grumpy. I just posted cheerfully the most colorful thetans
and you grumpily attacked them as crap because you know better without
having scientific information.
> It's because you believe this thetan nonsense and you believe
> thetans can live forever and inhabit millions of different bodies throughout
> time.
The Christian soul is nothing worth if it can't survive as thetans.
It is a spirit, why would it not have lived before and live again?
Just because you do not remember, doesn't mean that it didn't happen.
That Jesus comes for you sinners and forgives you everything and
awards you with a paradise that can be seen nowhere, that is nonsense.
Where is your paradise? I showed you thetans filmed by people on
YouTube. But I would not find your non-existing paradise there.
>
> This means that if you don't like somebody and they like you then you can
> NEVER get away from them.
Now you know how I feel when you don't leave me alone.
Of course you can leave. If no psychiatrists stalk you with modern
technology you simply can change the neighborhood and leave those
behind that you don't like.
> They can jump into any new body and become your
> lover in another life just by claiming they are the same thetan that was in
> de Rothschild's body.
That is crap as thetans know each other also without the same body. I
know immediately when Marty is impostored by another thetan. Any
thetan is one of a kind.
> Now, THAT's insecurity. You'd be better off if you
> were a Christian because with only one body none of this crazy stuff can
> happen.
Facts are fact. They will also happen to you if you are a Christian.
Closing the eyes from reality will not help you to get away from
reality.
Instead of being afraid change the world. Look at me, despite all that
happened to me, I am still standing. I am not afraid of thetans or
orbs as you are. Thetans without bodies are no real huge problem.
There is rarely one who has much power to do something against people
with bodies but people with bodies, secret service psychiatrists
implant and destroy thetans without bodies. They are the
problem.
But anybody who reads this: be reminded that L. Ron Hubbard discovered
the
thetan decades before they did. And nobody explains what the thetan is
as good as Ron did.
http://www.acviews.com/kh/theorbproject1.pdf
Barbara Schwarz
Rod
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yEHaszh6Nc
>
> They are not paranormal. They are thetans, people without bodies. He
> calls them spiritual identities.
>
Body thetans, eh ? He he he he....They are not thetans,
they are airborne dust particles reflecting sunlight
because of accumulated condensation on the surface of
the particle, nothing more..
Rod
> On Nov 29, 2:00 pm, Barbara loves Marty
> <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I double dare anybody to go out there as these people did.
Okay Barbara, where is "there" ? I'll take your dare,
and if I find something unusual I'll be the first to
admit it.
It takes a lot to scare me. I'm not a believer in any
kind of mystical mumbo jumbo.
Rod
> On Nov 29, 2:00 pm, Barbara loves Marty
> <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The Orb Project is a book was written by two scientists.
>
> They do not say that orbs are thetans but they acknowledge that they
> are spiritual entities. They know a lot more about it than ignorant
> and arrogant Neal Warren.
>
> Neal Warren dismisses anything that is not in the bible that was also
> just written by people.
Christians are notoriously stupid pieces of shit anyway..
>
> Barbara Schwarz
>
>
>
>
>
Barbara Schwarz
> Barbara loves Marty wrote:
> > On Nov 29, 2:00 pm, Barbara loves Marty
> > <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I double dare anybody to go out there as these people did.
>
> Okay Barbara, where is "there" ? I'll take your dare,
> and if I find something unusual I'll be the first to
> admit it.
There is your own neighborhood.
>
> It takes a lot to scare me. I'm not a believer in any
> kind of mystical mumbo jumbo.
I didn't mean to scare anybody.
These entities are no mumbo jumbo.
What do you think you are? Blood and bones? Who is that thing that
says "I" when you talk about you?
That is what I mean. That "I" thing is a spiritual being and L. Ron
Hubbard said it is a thetan and defined it better than anybody else.
And others call these spiritual beings orbs.
When you die and have no body anymore, you look just like them. What's
wrong with that?
Barbara Schwarz
> Barbara loves Marty wrote:
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yEHaszh6Nc
>
> > They are not paranormal. They are thetans, people without bodies. He
> > calls them spiritual identities.
>
> Body thetans, eh ? He he he he....
I was not speaking about body thetans, I was speaking about thetans.
But look at these orbs, they can attach them to you and banket you and
make you feel lousy if they are downtone.
With radiowaves and high frequency radio, somebody could send you a
lot of these orbs in your house and when they are downtone, you will
feel the bad flow.
> They are not thetans,
> they are airborne dust particles reflecting sunlight
> because of accumulated condensation on the surface of
> the particle, nothing more..
Not so.
http://www.acviews.com/kh/theorbproject1.pdf
But they don't know even remotely as much about thetans as L. Ron
Hubbard.
The thetan consists of a tiny little bit of material. That cloudy
stuff, that is what we really are when we don't have a body to go
with.
Amazing isn't it?
Barbara Schwarz
Rod
> On 29 Nov., 19:09, Rod <spa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Barbara loves Marty wrote:
>>> On Nov 29, 2:00 pm, Barbara loves Marty
>>> <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I double dare anybody to go out there as these people did.
>> Okay Barbara, where is "there" ? I'll take your dare,
>> and if I find something unusual I'll be the first to
>> admit it.
>
> There is your own neighborhood.
>> It takes a lot to scare me. I'm not a believer in any
>> kind of mystical mumbo jumbo.
>
> I didn't mean to scare anybody.
>
> These entities are no mumbo jumbo.
>
> What do you think you are? Blood and bones? Who is that thing that
> says "I" when you talk about you?
> That is what I mean. That "I" thing is a spiritual being and L. Ron
> Hubbard said it is a thetan and defined it better than anybody else.
>
> And others call these spiritual beings orbs.
>
> When you die and have no body anymore, you look just like them. What's
> wrong with that?
Nothing wrong with it except it has yet to be proven...but yes,
I'll take your dare. IF you are right I'll be the first to admit
to it, but if you are wrong I won't be the first to have told
you, but I'll make you one promise now, I'll never lie about it.
Rod
Barbara, I won't kid you..I think they are nothing more than dust
particles, but as I said above I'll take your dare. IF I'm wrong
I'll admit it.
>
> Barbara Schwarz
>
>
Barbara Schwarz
What if scientists are controlled and are bribed not to prove it? How
about trusting your own eyes and checking the orbs (thetans without
bodies)out yourself?
If you are afraid to do it alone, ask a friend to go with you. Take a
good digital camera and take pictures in the dark where are not many
lights, like Barbara Yates did on YouTube.
She doesn't know what they are. She just says that they are no dust
and water because she is an experienced photographer and knows how to
keep her lense clean. And she is right, they are no dust.
There are also orb forgeries on the net. But seeing them yourself is
what you have to do.
Or follow the instructions of the ORB Project, they give you tips as
how to photograph them.
Fact is, you are not just your body. You are a spirit who has a body.
And when your body is destroyed, it dies but you, the spirit continue.
If you want to know what afterlife is, check the orbs out, as that is
what the afterlife is like. Unless such an orb (thetan) takes over a
new body.
Did you see that one orb directly on the knee of one woman on YouTube?
My bet is that this guy waits to make his move in her belly to get the
baby body once she get pregnant.
Just look for the orbs yourself as that is more convincing than
anything anybody could tell you.
If you go out there, be reminded that they can't do much to you. Most
of them seem friendly like people and the bad apples, they probably
will make you feel bad because you can sense what they did in the
past. But they have no hands to strangle you and no weapon to kill
you. Just shake them off. I noticed that they leave once you go to a
better neighborhood.
Look for better places to observe them. If you go in downtone
neighborhood, you will see more downtone orbs (thetans). If you go in
better neighborhoods, you'll find better orbs (thetans).
Barbara Schwarz
>
>
>
>
>
> > Barbara Schwarz
>
> > --
> > Garry (Gary Lynn) Scarff in Los Angeles keeps on lying about me
> > cowardly and defaming me behind posting identities Smurf and
> > AngryGayPope. He lies to Anonymous and anybody else and they are
> > clueless about how he trolls them. The information on the RFW about
> > notorious liar Garry Scarff who does anything for money and fame are
> > true:http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/anti-religious-extremists/garry-...
>
> > Here is a small sample of what psychiatric drug consuming Scarff did
> > to me in the past:
> >http://de.nntp2http.com/soc/weltanschauung/scientology/2009/10/590f40...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
Barbara Schwarz
Just go out there. You don't have to believe anybody but your own
eyes.
Take a good clean camera. They do respond to approach and music. Dust
won't do that. Some of them travel so fast that you can see the trail
that they leave behind like little comets.
If they would be dust particles blown by the wind, they ALL would be
blown in this direction that fast. But no, just some do it once in a
while. The others are hanging around you and watch you. :) Very
interesting "dust".
If the dust reacts to what you are doing, guess it is then
"intelligent dust" or what?
It is so easy, the spirit inside of you, that thing that says, "I,
Rod" or "I, (your real name) is the spirit, the person, the orb, the
soul, the thetan and as this will not stop to exist once your body
dies, you'll survive as this cloud. And you can see what you will be
able to do after death.
These little transparent things can hear and see you. They also can
think.
Nothing will ever convince a person unless she has seen and interacted
with them herself.
Take it or leave it but the evidence is easy to get. It is in your
house or outside of your house. You just have to take pictures of
them.
Barbara Schwarz
Rod
I will admit that academia has it's biases. Look at it this way,
how would you like to be an academic or a scientist with a firm
who has been hamstrung by threats to your professional reputation
or financial security ?
Look at their point of view. Their reputations could be irrepairable
damaged for looking into some things that need attention, simply because
someone has a bias.
Barbara Schwarz
Yes, that might be a huge item why certain subjects are not touched.
I am not a coward, I would go any way to make my point. Less money and
getting a reputation isn't anything that would hold me back.
But there is of course also another point: he might not get much
publication for his findings except the Internet and there will be
defamers too.
That is why people cannot blindly trust that anything they need to
know is served to them on the silver platter in the media. We have to
find things out ourselves.
Barbara Schwarz
> >>>http://de.nntp2http.com/soc/weltanschauung/scientology/2009/10/590f40...Hide quoted text -
Rod
Barbara;
I've spoken with a friend that has some experience with these orbs
you have spoken of, and he is of the opinion that some of them ARE
more than mere dust specks. He and a co-worker had filed one
following them down a hallway at a bed and breakfast in Ponca City
okla two years ago. When they stopped moving, it stopped. They tried
to approach it and it reversed direction and moved away from them.
I haven't done any of this kind of thing myself, but he is a very
honest and intelligent, not predisposed to be impulsive. I'm inclined
to take his word for it.
Rod
Dust particles will react, it depends on temperature and
the amount of static electricity in the air. Dust particles
are attracted to materials that collect static electricity,
much like a nail to a magnet.
Barbara Schwarz
Of course there is dust in the air but dust does not react to your
approach.
People call the orbs (thetans) and then they come.
Can you call dust? Of course you can call but will it come?
I think it does not need much convincing. When you will see them, you
will know that these are spiritual and no dust at all.
Barbara Schwarz
>
>
>
>
>
> > It is so easy, the spirit inside of you, that thing that says, "I,
> > Rod" or "I, (your real name) is the spirit, the person, the orb, the
> > soul, the thetan and as this will not stop to exist once your body
> > dies, you'll survive as this cloud. And you can see what you will be
> > able to do after death.
>
> > These little transparent things can hear and see you. They also can
> > think.
> > Nothing will ever convince a person unless she has seen and interacted
> > with them herself.
>
> > Take it or leave it but the evidence is easy to get. It is in your
> > house or outside of your house. You just have to take pictures of
> > them.
>
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