This artwork is inspired by my recent experiences. By court order I am
ordered to attend a Domestic Nonviolence Program (DNP). Before you just to
conclusions, my wife objects to my unfair treatment by the courts and these
imposed classes, as do my two adult step daughters (one graduated from
college Phi Beta Kappa -- sorry couldn't help bragging). How I came to wind
up taking these classes is a long story and I'll relate it another time.
But things happen for a reason and I am learning a lot in these classes.
The one thing that amazes me is the passive way men take unfair punishment.
I'm hearing stories where men have been attacked while sleeping -- struck
on the head with a candle holder -- scratched and slapped, had a broken leg
kicked, was kicked between the legs, struck with shoes, beaten with a
telephone, etc... and when they defended themselves, they're the ones that
wind up in jail. Some men periodically come to the DNP classes with visible
wounds about the head, face and neck.
I also hear how ex-wives and girlfriends use their own children as weapons
against the men -- purposely souring the father-child relationship or
dropping off the children for visitation in a neglected condition to work
the man's guilt-- that is if they don't interfere outright with court
ordered visitation.
The worse thing I have heard is a man being stalked by his ex-girlfriend
who threatens his current wife and children and yet he is unable to get a
restraining order. Why? The claim is that because she got one first on a
domestic violence charge -- I suspect he needs to fire his lawyer. The date
of this domestic violence charge is a date when the man was already in jail
on an unrelated charge with the paperwork to prove it. The DA still
prosecuted. He plea bargained because he didn't want to deal with it.
DAMN IT! I think men need to get mad about this! This artwork is a
reflection of my anger. This anger is NOT directed to women as a whole or
against equal rights and opportunity for women. I firmly support these
ideals and goals. I think any individual should be allowed to express
themselves to their maximum potential. I think groups like Ifeminist have
the right idea. Just do whatever the hell you want to do! Make yourself
happy. Keep a relationship with people that make you happy -- add something
to your life-- and screw the rest! What bothers me is that many women blame
the man or men for their unhappiness. Some terminate a relationship only to
find they're no happier perhaps less so later on.
I believe that the damn snarling bitches that support unfair and
gender-biased programs and policies with phony surveys and manufactured
statistics have to go. As do the damn snarling bitches that intentionally
inflict misery on basically decent guys. Emotionally, verbally and/or
physically abusing them as if it is their right! I hope this poster helps
send all of them on their way. I, also, hope this poster gives some men the
backbone they need to walk away from a bad relationship. THERE IS NO REASON
WHATSOEVER TO JUSTIFY THE DEMEANING AND ABUSE OF ANY INDIVIDUALS OR CLASS
BY PERSONS OR GROUPS!
I have been told that I have "shit for brains and probably couldn't dress
myself" by a response to my posting this artwork site in another newsgroup.
I've been told that this is a complicated issue and "I'm not qualified to
deal with it..." This person claims that he has worked with many men's right
groups but stayed away from the more vocal components. I would counter
charge that I suspect that this individual's work in men's rights is
probably counciling men to accept their lot in life as the scapegoat for all
women's unhappiness. I would also claim that the issue is not complicated at
all. All we need to do is apply laws and policies consistently without
regard for gender, race, religion, ethnicity. Practicing gender bias in
order to eliminate it is -- in my opinion-- ridiculous!
--
No Snarling Bitches
Anti Extremist Radical Feminist
http://nosnarlingbitches.home.comcat.net
No Snarling Bitches wrote:
>http://nosnarlingbitches.home.comcast.net
>
< snip >
>
> All we need to do is apply laws and policies consistently without
>regard for gender, race, religion, ethnicity. Practicing gender bias in
>order to eliminate it is -- in my opinion-- ridiculous!
>
Same rights and same responsibilities.
According to my former ex girlfriend and feminist this is not enough.
" It is our turn to have the power ". Those were her words
>
>
> By court order I am
> ordered to attend a Domestic Nonviolence Program (DNP).
http://www.law.fsu.edu/journals/lawreview/downloads/304/kelly.pdf
> DAMN IT! I think men need to get mad about this!
*yawn*
OK, let's see if you show up at the next courthouse demonstration or
testify at the next legislative hearing for family laws.
Let's see the letters to the editor you have written and oped columns you
have had published.
Let's see what committees and groups you belong to and what meetings you
have attended on a regular basis and let's see your checkbook - please,
show us what contributions have you made to men's groups.
You haven't been doing that?
Gosh, sorry, I must have mistaken you for someone who gave a damn.
Best Regards - Fido
One of the best responses in a while. Far too many men figure it's not
their problem when a millon other men are being destroyed. Then the
femernment comes for him, and he's crying for help.
Bob
"Fido" <tomch...@gwi.net> wrote in message
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Did your feminist ex-girlfriend also champion putting women on the front
lines in combat and holding them accountable for their actions?
--
No Snarling Bitches
Anti Extremist Radical Feminist
http://nosnarlingbitches.home.comcat.net
"Xenos the elder" <nufsn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Good point and it is well taken. I am preparing to launch a class
> action suit. I don't want a probono attorney because you become a --as
> time is available client. I'll get there one way or another...
Good man.
I'll tell you that the air is clean and the view is great up here. Looking
forward to seeing you.
If you are in the Northeast US you might want to come to the New Hampshire
conference being given by the Battered Men's Helpline in this month. Good
speakers.
http://www.noexcuse4abuse.org/current.html
Best - Fido
Part of it comes from this DNP class I'm taking but a lot comes from my
childhood. My mother use to wake me up with a beating. She would sucker
punch me at the dinner table (one time for not eating my food in the
"proper" order). Once she opened my face up with her finger nails when the
back my chair hit the door of the refrigerator she was trying to open (small
kitchen). I went to school the next day with four or five deep scratch marks
on my face and a teacher asked me what happened. I told her the truth and
all she said was she was sure my mother didn't mean it (late 1950's). She
regularly beat my sister and me with broom handles, bath brushes, anything
she could lay he hands on, until she was exhausted.
In addition, she was running around telling people my father beat her. I
never saw my father lift a hand to my mother in the 18 years I lived at
home. Further, I never ever saw any bruise or injury on her that indicated
she was beat after I left and came back to visit. On the other hand, she
never had a good word to say about him in over 60 years of marriage. She
still runs him down to this day and he has been dead for over 5 years! He
was always okay with me and I don't remember a beating at his hands. He
wasn't perfect but he was closer to the mark than my mother was.
I also remember as a kid a friend of my mothers that bragged about breaking
a ketchup bottle over the head of her husband when he wouldn't give her
money to go shopping. Another women I remember took care of an old man. She
intentionally scorched his face with a pressing iron once to show him it
was hot and another time slammed a car door into his head when he was trying
to get out of the car (He was too slow for her). I remember to this day the
blood running down his head. I was about 7 or 8 at the time. There were many
many injuries that I saw on the old guy over the years. What makes me mad is
that women seem to get a free ride and are not held accountable in this and
many other issues. That and the way men just take it. Including me! If a
women is unhappy I seem to take it as my fault! I think the anger that
comes out in the poster is the anger at myself for taking crap and not
speaking out.
By the way the DNP stuff is not all bad. I'm not there for beating my wife.
I did lay hand on her to restrain her (a big NO! NO!) but we were under
stress and we may have a complication introduced by a medication she is
forced to take for asthma (steriods). And to be totally honest, I did not
handle the situation correctly. I let things slide for way too long -- we
both did. I've done okay for the most part dealing with women. I have been
married 3 times but both previous marriages ended without any violence or
abuse by me. We divided property and went our separate ways without
restraining orders or even a civil standby.
But, having said that, I have to say that I have been slapped, slugged and
threatened with a knife by my previous wife -- a couple of times we weren't
even arguing (I'm still trying ot figure that out... seemed like being home
with Mom all over again). I understand she is or has been under psychiatric
evaluation since we parted company (That part I have no problem
understanding!).
Anyhow, thanks for the feedback, good, bad, insulting, etc... Sometimes a
good kick in the pants to open your eyes.
My wife and I are considering moving to New Hampshire. We are located in
California and would like to get out of here before it implodes.
Unfortunately, we can't make it back east yet...but soon we hope. My
mother-in-law lives in New Hampshire.
Take care.
--
No Snarling Bitches
Anti Extremist Radical Feminist
http://nosnarlingbitches.home.comcat.net
"Fido" <tomch...@gwi.net> wrote in message
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> Good point and it is well taken. I am preparing to launch a class
> action suit. I don't want a probono attorney because you become a --as
> time is available client. I'll get there one way or another...
Good man.
Yup. You got it. Before this experience I swallowed the party line hook line
and sinker: in 90% of the domestic violence cases men are the abusers,
etc...,etc...I really believed that most men in domestic abuse and other
family court cases got exactly what they deserved. Sure I would sympathize
with the guy in the gym that I could see going through Hell but on some
level I thought he deserved it.
I have absolutely no excuse for this. My childhood and subsequent
experiences should have told me different. I am still trying to figure this
out about myself: I choose to believe what I was told rather than what I was
observing and experiencing. Was I brain washed?! What happened?! The only
conciliation I can take is that I am not alone -- see the Clara Harris case
in Texas. A fool it appears has many many compatriots! One of the things
that still amazes me is that I wanted to believe exactly what they were
telling me! Part of me still wants to believe it! It would be so much
simpler to believe it and let things go on as they are. As Fido said this is
a complicated issue. Some groups have high jacked the feminist movement and
some politicians have seized on the opportunity to gather votes. The results
are the gender-biased legislation and policies we see in practice. My
problems are minor in regards to my domestic violence case-- disturbing the
peace -- but what I'm hearing happening to my classmates is driving me up
the wall. That and the decidedly extreme feminist doctrine spouted during
the classes. It would be some much easier to put this behind me and walk
away! But I won't!
But I'm not crying for help -- I think I'm trying to gather support. I am
mad and I want to change things. The poster, good bad or indifferent, is
the banner I've chosen. I have read many many articles and yet I see nothing
changing (If anything they appear to be getting worse). They are simply
discounted by the opposition. The appearance of the poster --meant to convey
extremist female menace -- I hoped would put some teeth into the issue.
After all women got more than equality when the displayed their anger.
Politicians it appears do not respond to rational persons and arguments as
well as they respond to extremely angry groups. Perhaps men as a group need
to express their outrage. Maybe it may be more effective than yet another
article.
--
No Snarling Bitches
Anti Extremist Radical Feminist
http://nosnarlingbitches.home.comcat.net
"Bob" <boby...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The poster is ugly, but the message is clear.
Continue to support MEN and men's issues. No MAN is "guilty" until
convicted in a FAIR trial, and even the DOJ admits that all courts in
the US are badly sexist against men. Therefore NO MAN has received a
fair trial in many decades. All men currently in prison were tired in a
badly sexist judicial system and did not receive a fair trial. They are
in prison for the "crime" of being born male. Women, in the exact same
circumstances, would be out walking the streets.
Do not believe the lies and misandry we are fed every day in every
available media, movies, TV, books, newspapers, radio. Every government
agency now has a feminist advocacy group and panders to man-hating
programs. Do not believe any feminist, no matter how cute she looks.
You have awakened from the brainwashing your feminist mother taught you
with her milk. Rejoice in your awakening, and keep the faith brother.
Bob
No Snarling Bitches wrote:
>I have no problem sharing power or responsibilities. What I have a problem
>with subjugation of one gender to another.
>
>Did your feminist ex-girlfriend also champion putting women on the front
>lines in combat and holding them accountable for their actions?
>
Of course not.
>
>
> You have awakened from the brainwashing your feminist mother taught you
> with her milk. Rejoice in your awakening, and keep the faith brother.
>
> Bob
With her milk? Are you sure he was breast-fed? Maybe his mother was really
tall and had very small or no breasts. Maybe he mistook getting his mouth
washed out with soap as being brainwashed. You know what they say about
nursing babies being 'abreast' of more things.... well at least 2 more
things.
But you are right, if I were breast-feeding right now I too would rejoice in
being awakened.
I've been working on understanding why I was so willing to believe the
abuse myth despite much anecdotal evidence that I observed and experienced.
Give me some feedback on these thoughts: Every women that I have ever been
involved with, in the initial part of the relationship, she would spend a
lot of time discussing the deficiencies in her past relationship. A lot of
the time there were either explicit or implicit references to abuse (most I
suspect was false) in one form or another: neglect, verbal, physical, etc...
This awakened in me the "Sir Galahad Syndrome" (SGS) and I would feel the
need to rescue the "Damsel In Distress"(DID). This made me feel proud,
useful and valiant. I really feel that that there may be a need among us
males to feel that women are in peril and need us to come to their rescue.
It makes us feel good (temporarily). I feel I may not be alone in this
disease and that many men are experiencing the same thing. Perhaps this
explains why the evidence is ignored by so many. Do we need this abuse myth
to play the mating game?
Unfortunately, in most of these relationships I soon found that I was now
cast as the dragon in a "story" that the damsel was now selling to another
man.
What are your thoughts on this?
--
No Snarling Bitches
Anti Extremist Radical Feminist
http://nosnarlingbitches.home.comcat.net
"Bob" <boby...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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No Snarling Bitches wrote:
> Bob,
>
> I've been working on understanding why I was so willing to believe
> the abuse myth despite much anecdotal evidence that I observed and
> experienced.
>
> Give me some feedback on these thoughts: Every women that I have
> ever been involved with, in the initial part of the relationship, she
> would spend a lot of time discussing the deficiencies in her past
> relationship. A lot of the time there were either explicit or
> implicit references to abuse (most I suspect was false) in one form
> or another: neglect, verbal, physical, etc... This awakened in me the
> "Sir Galahad Syndrome" (SGS) and I would feel the need to rescue the
> "Damsel In Distress"(DID). This made me feel proud, useful and
> valiant. I really feel that that there may be a need among us males
> to feel that women are in peril and need us to come to their rescue.
> It makes us feel good (temporarily). I feel I may not be alone in
> this disease and that many men are experiencing the same thing.
> Perhaps this explains why the evidence is ignored by so many. Do we
> need this abuse myth to play the mating game?
>
> Unfortunately, in most of these relationships I soon found that I was
> now cast as the dragon in a "story" that the damsel was now selling
> to another man.
>
> What are your thoughts on this?
>
>
--
No Snarling Bitches
Anti Extremist Radical Feminist
http://nosnarlingbitches.home.comcat.net
"LoriMc" <LoriMc11@THE_SPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
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:) was just an idea, hope it helps.
Lori Mc
>http://www.noexcuse4abuse.org/current.html
How many attended the last 2 conferences?
We had a full house this tiome, about 60-100, and some of the breakout
sessions were full. last year there was about 45 or so. We want to get up
to about 400.
Best - Fido