today?
confuzzled
we are going to try the no delete rule. dunno.
later today we go over the br*thers for tday. he got out of h*spital
yesterday. foo will all be there. seems like charlie is committed to going.
told t more about foo (the d*d) yesterday. didn't even tell her some of
the worse stuff but somehow it seems so much worse talking about it with
her. I mean, all we talked about how the d*d likes to p*nch our b*ttom.
That's not that big a deal. right?
(switchy!)
t and I talked about how to deal with the d*d. t was just like asd and
said maybe herman can help. this time maybe herman has an idea. dunno.
kind of garbled. anyway, t also asked us to try to stay present. she
wants us to try be an observer.
she says that she can help. that it doesn't have to be like it us for
us. she really seems to believe that too
so, for the get together the plan is, stay away from the d*d as much as
possible. play with the nephew. be an observer. send t email afterwards
umm.. need maybe a plan for rest of the day. is a late dinner there so
got lots of time to fill. ate breakfast :/ we maybe slipping again on
eating. will eat today. guess we will even eat lunch. oscar says we have
too. he says can't go there feeling weak and dizzy
we gonna walk wondermutt but what else we do today? we really gotta eat
lunch? wish we didnt gotta go there.
(sorry)
gathring
is there someplace nearby you could volunteer at? is what i wanted to do
this year instead of big meal. sigh.
Herman ~<:o)
> happy to asd busier again
>
> we are going to try the no delete rule. dunno.
>
> later today we go over the br*thers for tday. he got out of h*spital
> yesterday. foo will all be there. seems like charlie is committed to going.
>
> told t more about foo (the d*d) yesterday. didn't even tell her some of
> the worse stuff but somehow it seems so much worse talking about it with
> her. I mean, all we talked about how the d*d likes to p*nch our b*ttom.
> That's not that big a deal. right?
>
> (switchy!)
>
> t and I talked about how to deal with the d*d. t was just like asd and
> said maybe herman can help. this time maybe herman has an idea. dunno.
> kind of garbled. anyway, t also asked us to try to stay present. she
> wants us to try be an observer.
>
heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
confuzzled
thought about that
charlie really set on get together with foo. dunno why
starting to wonder if isn't just her
dunno
Shiyiya
looks to us like Charlie is very much wanting to be good dutiful perfect
d*ughter.
> starting to wonder if isn't just her
failed at parsing this sentence, possibly because tired. wondering if
she's the only one who wants to stay contacting with foo, or wonderinf
if she isn't the only one wanting to stay contacting with foo?
> dunno
gathring
i like it
confuzzled
ja :P
>> starting to wonder if isn't just her
>
> failed at parsing this sentence, possibly because tired. wondering if
> she's the only one who wants to stay contacting with foo, or wonderinf
> if she isn't the only one wanting to stay contacting with foo?
sorry. we probably not being clear
wondering if there's someone besides charlie that is determined to go to
foo stuff
confuzzled
:/
Shiyiya
who might be? wolfie?
gathring
calls attention to their behavior in a way that is playful, so is like
you are just doing the same thing they are doing. isn't perhaps a good
way to deal with a childs inappropriate behavior, but works fairly well
with adults if repeated.
astri
> happy to asd busier again
yah!
> we are going to try the no delete rule. dunno.
>
> later today we go over the br*thers for tday. he got out of h*spital
> yesterday. foo will all be there. seems like charlie is committed to
> going.
k
> told t more about foo (the d*d) yesterday. didn't even tell her some
> of the worse stuff but somehow it seems so much worse talking about
> it with her. I mean, all we talked about how the d*d likes to p*nch
> our b*ttom. That's not that big a deal. right?
maybe not huge deal but not right
says not respecting your boundaries
stuff you say says that's a pattern
not ok
> (switchy!)
yah
> t and I talked about how to deal with the d*d. t was just like asd
> and said maybe herman can help. this time maybe herman has an idea.
> dunno. kind of garbled. anyway, t also asked us to try to stay
> present. she wants us to try be an observer.
herman what your plan?
> she says that she can help. that it doesn't have to be like it us for
> us. she really seems to believe that too
she's different
> so, for the get together the plan is, stay away from the d*d as much
> as possible. play with the nephew. be an observer. send t email
> afterwards
and asd
> umm.. need maybe a plan for rest of the day. is a late dinner there
> so got lots of time to fill. ate breakfast :/ we maybe slipping again
> on eating. will eat today. guess we will even eat lunch. oscar says
> we have too. he says can't go there feeling weak and dizzy
oscar right
gotta eat lunch
be strong
> we gonna walk wondermutt but what else we do today? we really gotta
> eat lunch? wish we didnt gotta go there.
yah, eat lunch
hang out at asd
cuddle with critters
> (sorry)
k
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confuzzled
dunno
(maybe?)
(no!)
is all confused
we got bad hedake. maybe we can stay home?
Oh please, we are not sick. We are fine. A headache is not a big deal
cant think sorry
Oh
we got one other thing we gonna do.
at noon is "alice's restaurant" on the radio. the whoel 20 something
minute song. we gonna listen :)
Shiyiya
is k.
>
> we got bad hedake. maybe we can stay home?
> Oh please, we are not sick. We are fine. A headache is not a big deal
You guys should listen to her about the body. Are you getting enough to
drink? That can help headaches sometimes. try and figure out why and if
it can be fixed instead of shoving it aside? Might help.
>
> cant think sorry
is okay.
>
> Oh
> we got one other thing we gonna do.
> at noon is "alice's restaurant" on the radio. the whoel 20 something
> minute song. we gonna listen :)
That sounds like a good thing, to have something to do for you :)
confuzzled
> confuzzled wrote:
>> Shiyiya wrote:
>>> confuzzled wrote:
>>>> Shiyiya wrote:
>>>>> confuzzled wrote:
>>>>>> gathring wrote:
>>>>>>> confuzzled wrote:
>>>>>>>> happy to asd busier again
>>>>>>>>
<...>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> is there someplace nearby you could volunteer at? is what i
>>>>>>> wanted to do this year instead of big meal. sigh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thought about that
>>>>>> charlie really set on get together with foo. dunno why
>>>>>
>>>>> looks to us like Charlie is very much wanting to be good dutiful
>>>>> perfect d*ughter.
>>>>
>>>> ja :P
>>>>
>>>>>> starting to wonder if isn't just her
>>>>>
>>>>> failed at parsing this sentence, possibly because tired. wondering
>>>>> if she's the only one who wants to stay contacting with foo, or
>>>>> wonderinf if she isn't the only one wanting to stay contacting with
>>>>> foo?
>>>>
>>>> sorry. we probably not being clear
>>>>
>>>> wondering if there's someone besides charlie that is determined to
>>>> go to foo stuff
>>>
>>> who might be? wolfie?
>>
>> dunno
>> (maybe?)
>> (no!)
>> is all confused
>
> is k.
cant think right now
>>
>> we got bad hedake. maybe we can stay home?
>> Oh please, we are not sick. We are fine. A headache is not a big deal
>
> You guys should listen to her about the body. Are you getting enough to
> drink? That can help headaches sometimes. try and figure out why and if
> it can be fixed instead of shoving it aside? Might help.
oh. think we drinking enough?
coffee
maybe we could take advil
maybe... :/ maybe we gotta start taking the potassium med again for a
bit? dunno
>>
>> cant think sorry
>
> is okay.
sorry
>>
>> Oh
>> we got one other thing we gonna do.
>> at noon is "alice's restaurant" on the radio. the whoel 20 something
>> minute song. we gonna listen :)
>
> That sounds like a good thing, to have something to do for you :)
makes us laugh
Shiyiya
is hard to sometimes.
>
>>>
>>> we got bad hedake. maybe we can stay home?
>>> Oh please, we are not sick. We are fine. A headache is not a big deal
>>
>> You guys should listen to her about the body. Are you getting enough
>> to drink? That can help headaches sometimes. try and figure out why
>> and if it can be fixed instead of shoving it aside? Might help.
>
> oh. think we drinking enough?
> coffee
caffeine can make headaches worse sometimes. You guys drink water? or
have juice or something?
> maybe we could take advil
advil is okay if you only take enough to help the headache. I have to
take it for headaches fairly often.
> maybe... :/ maybe we gotta start taking the potassium med again for a
> bit? dunno
Why did you stop taking it?
>
>>>
>>> cant think sorry
>>
>> is okay.
>
> sorry
accepted if you need it to be, though don't think you need to apologise.
astri
> we got bad hedake. maybe we can stay home?
> Oh please, we are not sick. We are fine. A headache is not a big deal
:/
> cant think sorry
>
> Oh
> we got one other thing we gonna do.
> at noon is "alice's restaurant" on the radio. the whoel 20 something
> minute song. we gonna listen :)
we got that on ipod
and puter
think we put it on now :)
confuzzled
<sigh>
and we wanted to get going early and take walk but didnt
>>
>>>>
>>>> we got bad hedake. maybe we can stay home?
>>>> Oh please, we are not sick. We are fine. A headache is not a big deal
>>>
>>> You guys should listen to her about the body. Are you getting enough
>>> to drink? That can help headaches sometimes. try and figure out why
>>> and if it can be fixed instead of shoving it aside? Might help.
>>
>> oh. think we drinking enough?
>> coffee
>
> caffeine can make headaches worse sometimes. You guys drink water? or
> have juice or something?
oh. we not drink water yet today
>> maybe we could take advil
>
> advil is okay if you only take enough to help the headache. I have to
> take it for headaches fairly often.
ya. just two.
we forgot about this
>> maybe... :/ maybe we gotta start taking the potassium med again for a
>> bit? dunno
>
> Why did you stop taking it?
cuz we were feeling better?
>>
>>>>
>>>> cant think sorry
>>>
>>> is okay.
>>
>> sorry
>
> accepted if you need it to be, though don't think you need to apologise.
k
maybe we gotta break things into little steps
umm
first drink some water and take advil
then get dressed and brush teeth
figure out next steps after?
Shiyiya
> Shiyiya wrote:
>> confuzzled wrote:
>>> Shiyiya wrote:
>>>> confuzzled wrote:
>>>>> Shiyiya wrote:
>>>>>> confuzzled wrote:
>>>>>>>> confuzzled wrote:
>>>
>>> <...>
>>>>>
>>>>> dunno
>>>>> (maybe?)
>>>>> (no!)
>>>>> is all confused
>>>>
>>>> is k.
>>>
>>> cant think right now
>>
>> is hard to sometimes.
>
> <sigh>
> and we wanted to get going early and take walk but didnt
>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> we got bad hedake. maybe we can stay home?
>>>>> Oh please, we are not sick. We are fine. A headache is not a big deal
>>>>
>>>> You guys should listen to her about the body. Are you getting enough
>>>> to drink? That can help headaches sometimes. try and figure out why
>>>> and if it can be fixed instead of shoving it aside? Might help.
>>>
>>> oh. think we drinking enough?
>>> coffee
>>
>> caffeine can make headaches worse sometimes. You guys drink water? or
>> have juice or something?
>
> oh. we not drink water yet today
dehydration can make headaches. coffee doesn't help much with that cos
it's a whatsit, diuretic.
>
>>> maybe we could take advil
>>
>> advil is okay if you only take enough to help the headache. I have to
>> take it for headaches fairly often.
>
> ya. just two.
> we forgot about this
>
>>> maybe... :/ maybe we gotta start taking the potassium med again for a
>>> bit? dunno
>>
>> Why did you stop taking it?
>
> cuz we were feeling better?
did dctrs tell you to take it for a set amount of time or daily or what?
think is something you might need all the time as a supplement because
not geting it in your diet.
>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> cant think sorry
>>>>
>>>> is okay.
>>>
>>> sorry
>>
>> accepted if you need it to be, though don't think you need to apologise.
>
> k
>
> maybe we gotta break things into little steps
> umm
> first drink some water and take advil
> then get dressed and brush teeth
>
> figure out next steps after?
sounds like good plan to me.
confuzzled
dunno
confuzzled
> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009, confuzzled wrote:
>
>> we got bad hedake. maybe we can stay home?
>> Oh please, we are not sick. We are fine. A headache is not a big deal
>
> :/
they just whining
>
>> cant think sorry
>>
>> Oh
>> we got one other thing we gonna do.
>
>> at noon is "alice's restaurant" on the radio. the whoel 20 something
>> minute song. we gonna listen :)
>
> we got that on ipod
> and puter
>
> think we put it on now :)
>
:) we just listened to it on the radio
now we gotta go out or oscar be mad.
rain pants and socks and shoes
confuzzled
take daily and follow up with dr
and we did take it daily and then we feeling lots better and we'd read
about it and is bad if you get to much potassium in your system
and we only slipped a little bit on eating and just recently so don't
get how body can be feeling worse. shouldn't be that much a difference.
really. not trying to be difficult. just don't get it because we were
feeling really good. had energy. no dizziness.
> think is something you might need all the time as a supplement because
> not geting it in your diet.
but we were eating foods that had it. we were trying. for real
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cant think sorry
>>>>>
>>>>> is okay.
>>>>
>>>> sorry
>>>
>>> accepted if you need it to be, though don't think you need to apologise.
>>
>> k
>>
>> maybe we gotta break things into little steps
>> umm
>> first drink some water and take advil
>> then get dressed and brush teeth
>>
>> figure out next steps after?
>
> sounds like good plan to me.
k. we dressed and drank water and took advil. now we put on shoes, socks
and rain pants and go for walk
Juniper
confuzzled <nospamsometi...@gmail.com> wrote:
Years ago, when my f*ther was still alive, when I went back to visit
them I'd think of myself as an anthropologist visiting a strange tribe.
I'd (privately) make notes of odd behavior and so on, and that both
protected me from being affected (too much) by what went on and also
helped me hang onto information so it wouldn't get dissed away and I'd
be able to tell my therp about whatever it was I'd collected.
I still do that a bit with my m*ther, who is still living (and is
upstairs in my house resting up before the rest of the family gets here
in a bit). It helps me maintain some distance and get through
interactions relatively intact. Becoming drawn in emotionally feels
extremely dangerous. :-(
Juniper, smelling the bird roasting in the oven with my famous walnut
and celery stuffing
Juniper
confuzzled <nospamsometi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh
> we got one other thing we gonna do.
> at noon is "alice's restaurant" on the radio. the whoel 20 something
> minute song. we gonna listen :)
Very cool! I l*ve that! I have an old vinyl album of it, but don't
have it on CD.
Juniper
astri
> astri wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009, confuzzled wrote:
>>
>>> we got bad hedake. maybe we can stay home?
>>> Oh please, we are not sick. We are fine. A headache is not a big deal
>>
>> :/
>
> they just whining
well
they allowed
>>> cant think sorry
>>>
>>> Oh
>>> we got one other thing we gonna do.
>>
>>> at noon is "alice's restaurant" on the radio. the whoel 20 something
>>> minute song. we gonna listen :)
>>
>> we got that on ipod
>> and puter
>>
>> think we put it on now :)
>>
> :) we just listened to it on the radio
:)
> now we gotta go out or oscar be mad.
> rain pants and socks and shoes
k
gonna dress up and go out soon
astri
> and we only slipped a little bit on eating and just recently so don't
> get how body can be feeling worse. shouldn't be that much a
> difference. really. not trying to be difficult. just don't get it
> because we were feeling really good. had energy. no dizziness.
think at a certain point body can feel better but is still needing lots
of healing and so it doesn't have a lot of tolerance for slipping, cuz
is still really at edge.
confuzzled
k
we going now
(someone has to say this....)
(is all drama. we will go and everything will be fine and it will just
show how we make everything into drama and problems when its not)
astri
> we going now
>
> (someone has to say this....)
> (is all drama. we will go and everything will be fine and it will
be very nice if that's the case
> just show how we make everything into drama and problems when its
> not)
sigh
Oscar of confuzzled
> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009, confuzzled wrote:
>
>> we going now
>>
>> (someone has to say this....)
>
>> (is all drama. we will go and everything will be fine and it will
>
> be very nice if that's the case
>
they lie
I am trying really hard to not get totally mad at them
Shiyiya
Somehow I suspect you guys are unlikely to have that problem. The follow
up with dctr would presumably have checked if you still needed it or not.
>
> and we only slipped a little bit on eating and just recently so don't
> get how body can be feeling worse. shouldn't be that much a difference.
> really. not trying to be difficult. just don't get it because we were
> feeling really good. had energy. no dizziness.
sounds like the body really needed the potassium
>
>> think is something you might need all the time as a supplement because
>> not geting it in your diet.
>
> but we were eating foods that had it. we were trying. for real
Maybe your body doesn't process it out of food efficiently enough so
needs supplements?
>
>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cant think sorry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is okay.
>>>>>
>>>>> sorry
>>>>
>>>> accepted if you need it to be, though don't think you need to
>>>> apologise.
>>>
>>> k
>>>
>>> maybe we gotta break things into little steps
>>> umm
>>> first drink some water and take advil
>>> then get dressed and brush teeth
>>>
>>> figure out next steps after?
>>
>> sounds like good plan to me.
>
> k. we dressed and drank water and took advil. now we put on shoes, socks
> and rain pants and go for walk
k
Juniper
Oscar of confuzzled <nospamsometi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> astri wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Nov 2009, confuzzled wrote:
> >
> >> we going now
> >>
> >> (someone has to say this....)
> >
> >> (is all drama. we will go and everything will be fine and it will
> >
> > be very nice if that's the case
> >
> I bet you they are gonna tell some story and make it all sound "fine"
> they lie
Sounds to me more like denial than out and out lying.
> I am trying really hard to not get totally mad at them
You're a good egg, Oscar. ;-)
Juniper
confuzzled
> In article <7n9g1uF...@mid.individual.net>,
> Oscar of confuzzled <nospamsometi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> astri wrote:
>>> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009, confuzzled wrote:
>>>
>>>> we going now
>>>>
>>>> (someone has to say this....)
>>>> (is all drama. we will go and everything will be fine and it will
>>> be very nice if that's the case
>>>
>> I bet you they are gonna tell some story and make it all sound "fine"
>> they lie
>
> Sounds to me more like denial than out and out lying.
>
maybe
but maybe some of it is just hard to know what to believe?
>> I am trying really hard to not get totally mad at them
>
> You're a good egg, Oscar. ;-)
he helped
confuzzled
<wanders away>
hmm....
ok, did delete a bit. not going to get anywhere otherwise I guess
not sure what to do with self(ves) today
Shiyiya
Can someone talk about how yesterday went? herman maybe? :P
Baba Yaga
>On Thu, 26 Nov 2009, confuzzled wrote:
>
>> and we only slipped a little bit on eating and just recently so don't
>> get how body can be feeling worse. shouldn't be that much a
>> difference. really. not trying to be difficult. just don't get it
>> because we were feeling really good. had energy. no dizziness.
>
>think at a certain point body can feel better but is still needing lots
>of healing and so it doesn't have a lot of tolerance for slipping, cuz
>is still really at edge.
yes.
also, think it's one of the signs of cumulative damage, that one's
sensitivity to the thing doing damage increases.
regret the slip, btw.
Baba Yaga of the frozen fingers
--
External things are no more like the perceptions they give rise to,
than wine is similar to intoxication, or opium to the delirium which
it produces.
- John Playfair
Baba Yaga
>Years ago, when my f*ther was still alive, when I went back to visit
>them I'd think of myself as an anthropologist visiting a strange tribe.
>I'd (privately) make notes of odd behavior and so on, and that both
>protected me from being affected (too much) by what went on and also
>helped me hang onto information so it wouldn't get dissed away and I'd
>be able to tell my therp about whatever it was I'd collected.
I like that idea.
Baba Yaga
Baba Yaga
>You're a good egg, Oscar. ;-)
seconded.
Shiyiya
> Juniper <jun...@asarian-intl.org> wrote, in alt.support.dissociation:
>
>> You're a good egg, Oscar. ;-)
>
> seconded.
>
> Baba Yaga
thirded
astri
> astri wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009, confuzzled wrote:
>>
>>> we going now
>>>
>>> (someone has to say this....)
>>
>>> (is all drama. we will go and everything will be fine and it will
>>
>> be very nice if that's the case
>>
> I bet you they are gonna tell some story and make it all sound "fine"
> they lie
perhaps they lie to themselves because seeing what happens is too
threatening to their construction of the world. perhaps they see the
same as you but are driven to interpret it differently in order to
maintain their sense of stability. sometimes it takes a while to see
clearly.
> I am trying really hard to not get totally mad at them
ok
Oscar of confuzzled
herman was useless. charlie pretty well took over.
will tell what happened below. going to use foo words and not splat.
we got lost on the way there. not just got lost but our driving went to
crap and we almost got in an accident. anyway, we got into the little
complex where the brother lives and couldn't remember the house number
or exactly where the house was so we drove around a bit but couldn't
find it. so we called.
this is apparently something that is worthy of much comments. "you
couldn't find it" "you got lost in the complex" "I can't believe it".
yeah well we go there once a year at most. it was dark and rainy. kiss
my *ss. anyway, the brother made a point of telling the 'rents.
now maybe wee got lost but we were at least on time. the parents showed
up an hour late. we had to hold dinner and wait and wait. once thety got
there the mother spent the entire evening making coments about how we
got lost. this from the woman who gave up driving years ago because she
couldn't cope. who had no sense of direction and typically refused to go
to new places or drive at night. I finally told her to lay off.
that's after I found my way out. which happened because of what the dad
did.
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ok, so we were standing talking to the SIL and we put our back to our
dad. which is so fucking stupid. WE KNOW BETTER!!!!!!! charlie's all
happy because she got to help in the kitchen and they appreciated her
and aside from the mom's idiocy things hadn't been that bad. charlie is
a fool
we were stretching and the SIL comments we need smaller pants and a
smaller belt. no shit. so then the dad swats us on the ass and he tries
to pull down our pants. charlie says he wouldn't have actually pulled
down our pants. THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT AND HE WAS YANKING PRETTY
HARD. I am so fucking tired of this shit.
and the dad just called andd left a message on the machine saying they
are celebrating the brother's birthday on Saturday. we are *NOT* going.
no. charlie can just fuck off. and someone is panicking and it's enough
of that crap. we've been walloing since thursday
here's a clue people. stay away from the foo and we wouldn't be stuck
wallowing. we wouldn't be such a fucking mess.
astri
> herman was useless. charlie pretty well took over.
>
> will tell what happened below. going to use foo words and not splat.
>
> we got lost on the way there. not just got lost but our driving went
> to crap and we almost got in an accident. anyway, we got into the
> little complex where the brother lives and couldn't remember the
> house number or exactly where the house was so we drove around a bit
> but couldn't find it. so we called.
>
> this is apparently something that is worthy of much comments. "you
> couldn't find it" "you got lost in the complex" "I can't believe it".
> yeah well we go there once a year at most. it was dark and rainy.
> kiss my *ss. anyway, the brother made a point of telling the 'rents.
gah
> now maybe wee got lost but we were at least on time. the parents
> showed up an hour late. we had to hold dinner and wait and wait. once
> thety got there the mother spent the entire evening making coments
> about how we got lost. this from the woman who gave up driving years
> ago because she couldn't cope. who had no sense of direction and
> typically refused to go to new places or drive at night. I finally
> told her to lay off.
did it work?
but she's allowed to be happy about things that make her happy
doesn't mean turn your back on him, but she's allowed to like being
appreciated
> we were stretching and the SIL comments we need smaller pants and a
> smaller belt. no shit. so then the dad swats us on the ass and he
> tries to pull down our pants. charlie says he wouldn't have actually
> pulled down our pants. THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT AND HE WAS
> YANKING PRETTY HARD. I am so fucking tired of this shit.
stupid boundary-less playground bullying
> and the dad just called andd left a message on the machine saying
> they are celebrating the brother's birthday on Saturday. we are *NOT*
> going. no. charlie can just fuck off. and someone is panicking and
> it's enough of that crap. we've been walloing since thursday
>
> here's a clue people. stay away from the foo and we wouldn't be stuck
> wallowing. we wouldn't be such a fucking mess.
think it would be a good idea not to go this time
would be way too much
Shiyiya
> Shiyiya wrote:
>> confuzzled wrote:
>>> ok. trying the no deleting rule
>>>
>>> <wanders away>
>>>
>>> hmm....
>>>
>>> ok, did delete a bit. not going to get anywhere otherwise I guess
>>>
>>> not sure what to do with self(ves) today
>>
>> Can someone talk about how yesterday went? herman maybe? :P
>
> herman was useless. charlie pretty well took over.
>
> will tell what happened below. going to use foo words and not splat.
>
> we got lost on the way there. not just got lost but our driving went to
> crap and we almost got in an accident. anyway, we got into the little
> complex where the brother lives and couldn't remember the house number
> or exactly where the house was so we drove around a bit but couldn't
> find it. so we called.
>
> this is apparently something that is worthy of much comments. "you
> couldn't find it" "you got lost in the complex" "I can't believe it".
> yeah well we go there once a year at most. it was dark and rainy. kiss
> my *ss. anyway, the brother made a point of telling the 'rents.
Ugh.
>
> now maybe wee got lost but we were at least on time. the parents showed
> up an hour late. we had to hold dinner and wait and wait. once thety got
> there the mother spent the entire evening making coments about how we
> got lost. this from the woman who gave up driving years ago because she
> couldn't cope. who had no sense of direction and typically refused to go
> to new places or drive at night. I finally told her to lay off.
Good on you.
Ugh. He sounds like a pretty disgusting person.
>
> and the dad just called andd left a message on the machine saying they
> are celebrating the brother's birthday on Saturday. we are *NOT* going.
> no. charlie can just fuck off. and someone is panicking and it's enough
> of that crap. we've been walloing since thursday
>
> here's a clue people. stay away from the foo and we wouldn't be stuck
> wallowing. we wouldn't be such a fucking mess.
Hope you can help you guys *stick* to staying away from the foo.
Charlie of Confuzzled
> Oscar of confuzzled wrote:
>> Shiyiya wrote:
>>> confuzzled wrote:
>>>> ok. trying the no deleting rule
>>>>
>>>> <wanders away>
>>>>
>>>> hmm....
>>>>
>>>> ok, did delete a bit. not going to get anywhere otherwise I guess
>>>>
>>>> not sure what to do with self(ves) today
>>>
>>> Can someone talk about how yesterday went? herman maybe? :P
>>
>> herman was useless. charlie pretty well took over.
>>
>> will tell what happened below. going to use foo words and not splat.
>>
>> we got lost on the way there. not just got lost but our driving went
>> to crap and we almost got in an accident. anyway, we got into the
>> little complex where the brother lives and couldn't remember the house
>> number or exactly where the house was so we drove around a bit but
>> couldn't find it. so we called.
>>
>> this is apparently something that is worthy of much comments. "you
>> couldn't find it" "you got lost in the complex" "I can't believe it".
>> yeah well we go there once a year at most. it was dark and rainy. kiss
>> my *ss. anyway, the brother made a point of telling the 'rents.
>
> Ugh.
It's a teeny, tiny complex. It was ridiculous we got lost. So, they made
some comments it wasn't a big deal. Oscar is the one making a big deal
out of it
No, they make things sound worse then they are. He was playing. All he
did is tug on our pants. Big deal. He wasn't actually going to pull them
down. He was making a point. We really shouldn't be walking around in
such baggy clothes.
>>
>> and the dad just called andd left a message on the machine saying they
>> are celebrating the brother's birthday on Saturday. we are *NOT*
>> going. no. charlie can just fuck off. and someone is panicking and
>> it's enough of that crap. we've been walloing since thursday
>>
>> here's a clue people. stay away from the foo and we wouldn't be stuck
>> wallowing. we wouldn't be such a fucking mess.
>
> Hope you can help you guys *stick* to staying away from the foo.
Everybody keeps saying that. Everyone who says that has f*mily. Sure, go
ahead, tell us what to do while you have your f*mily. Do you want us to
have no one? Do you understand how much they struggle. They aren't awful
people. They are hurt people. Hurt people come here and post and they
get support and concern. My f*mily deserves the same thing. You don't
know what it's like to be them. You don't know about the good things
they do.
Charlie of Confuzzled
and br*ther hurt. How the SIL is taking care of the br*ther and her m*m
who has cancer and she's got her own health issues. How the d*d is
taking care of the m*m and how hard that is.
Of course you won't tell that. You've wanted to get rid of the foo for a
long time. You're just itching for a fight and you're going to tell your
own twisted story.
Did you tell how much they appreciated our help? How most of the time
they were being really nice. How we were making the best of a really
rotten situation with my brother being so hurt.
astri
> Shiyiya wrote:
>>
>> Hope you can help you guys *stick* to staying away from the foo.
>
> Everybody keeps saying that. Everyone who says that has f*mily. Sure,
> go ahead, tell us what to do while you have your f*mily. Do you want
> us to have no one? Do you understand how much they struggle. They
> aren't awful people. They are hurt people. Hurt people come here and
> post and they get support and concern. My f*mily deserves the same
> thing. You don't know what it's like to be them. You don't know about
> the good things they do.
think is true from both sides
believe you that they are not awful, that they are hurt. think same of
ours. no m*nsters there, just hurt people who don't understand or
respect boundaries. do good things as well as disturbing things.
is also the case that the others in your body get incredibly triggered
right now from being with the foo, and then spend a significant amount
of time tryimg to regain footing after contact.
think right now, all of you are dealing in blacks and whites,
minimizings and maximizings of current day stuff. think that may mean
there is past stuff to deal with, so that you can see the true greys of
today.