update
russiandolly
is that ok?
dunno.
anyway.
feel like a chat, a rant, and so on, so here we go.
been very very hungry yesterday and today. ate more than we feel
comfortable with but body still hungry.
we been exercising lots and not seeing weight loss
(Afrika says because body in starvation mode, and exercise builds
muscle anyway)
lots of self h*te going on over weight.
very down. crying. "life is pointless" kind of thing.
know we in a bit of a dificult place right now, and that things will
get better. just finding it hard.
wondering maybe let everyone eat what they want? allow body to be
satisfied? would it make life easier?
think is maybe part of everyone having their freedom.
ex rang us halfway through typing a letter for Wendy.
made us feel guilty for being down cos he said it puts im on a downer
too
(cue Alice raging "how dare he".... "just like the m*ther"...etc)
asked us if we were going to darts tonight, and we said no, because
he'd asked us not to
and well,
[we've copied this from the letter to Wendy]
he said well, it would be mean of you if you did, wouldn’t it? And
then started saying “just think about it” and things like that (don't
like it when he gets all patronising and condescending)
he said “cos then it would be all about you, and that’s not fair is
it? I mean, they were more your friends anyway, they’d all talk to you
and not me”
Jealous ****. Who the f*** does he think he is anyway? If he faced up
to the way he is at times then maybe he’d understand why people
struggle to get on with him. Well f*** him,. I’m glad we left him when
we did if that’s the way he is. It’s “not fair that we take his
friends away.” We weren’t *trying* to take his friends away for a
start, and what’s wrong with them being our friends too? Why does it
always have to be a war? He’ll get p***** off anyway, ‘cos they’ll all
be asking after us. :P
Well, we’re going to make something of ourselves, don’t need him or
his stupid social life, we can have our own. And do you know what he
said at the end of the conversation, after guilt-tripping us for
feeling down? He said, “well, I just thought I’d ring you ‘cos it’s
not like you’ve got any friends.” That was just mean.
Think he's feeling a bit bad himself. He tried to kiss us last night,
caught us by suprise (Pippa was out) and he's been telling us all week
how much he misses us.
Don't care. Want to be as far away and free from him as possible.
Can't be bothered with his mixed up world where he is the centre and
the most important.
astri
> feel like we're making lots of new posts at the moment
> is that ok?
ys!!!!!
> dunno.
> anyway.
> feel like a chat, a rant, and so on, so here we go.
k
> been very very hungry yesterday and today. ate more than we feel
> comfortable with but body still hungry.
> we been exercising lots and not seeing weight loss
> (Afrika says because body in starvation mode, and exercise builds
> muscle anyway)
>
> lots of self h*te going on over weight.
understand that lots
> very down. crying. "life is pointless" kind of thing.
> know we in a bit of a dificult place right now, and that things will
> get better. just finding it hard.
and all of that is prolly not just about the weight, anyway
> wondering maybe let everyone eat what they want? allow body to be
> satisfied? would it make life easier?
in some ways, yes
in other ways, no
> think is maybe part of everyone having their freedom.
>
> ex rang us halfway through typing a letter for Wendy.
> made us feel guilty for being down cos he said it puts im on a downer
> too
blah
he should be responsible for his own feelings
> (cue Alice raging "how dare he".... "just like the m*ther"...etc)
> asked us if we were going to darts tonight, and we said no, because
> he'd asked us not to
> and well,
> [we've copied this from the letter to Wendy]
> he said well, it would be mean of you if you did, wouldn't it? And
> then started saying 'just think about it' and things like that (don't
> like it when he gets all patronising and condescending)
> he said 'cos then it would be all about you, and that's not fair is
> it? I mean, they were more your friends anyway, they'd all talk to you
> and not me.
well, *that's* quite a guilt trip he put on you
> Jealous ****. Who the f*** does he think he is anyway? If he faced up
> to the way he is at times then maybe he'd understand why people
> struggle to get on with him. Well f*** him,. I'm glad we left him when
> we did if that's the way he is. It's not fair that we take his
> friends away. We weren't *trying* to take his friends away for a
> start, and what's wrong with them being our friends too? Why does it
> always have to be a war? He'll get p***** off anyway, cos they'll all
> be asking after us. :P
he gets what he deserves
> Well, welre going to make something of ourselves, donlt need him or
> his stupid social life, we can have our own. And do you know what he
> said at the end of the conversation, after guilt-tripping us for
> feeling down? He said, 'well, I just thought Ild ring you cos itls
> not like youlve got any friends.' That was just mean.
uncalled for mean
> Think he's feeling a bit bad himself. He tried to kiss us last night,
> caught us by suprise (Pippa was out) and he's been telling us all week
> how much he misses us.
ick
> Don't care. Want to be as far away and free from him as possible.
> Can't be bothered with his mixed up world where he is the centre and
> the most important.
you'll find your own friends when you don't hang with him
-- astri
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russiandolly
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, russiandolly wrote:
> > feel like we're making lots of new posts at the moment
> > is that ok?
>
> ys!!!!!
>
> > dunno.
> > anyway.
> > feel like a chat, a rant, and so on, so here we go.
>
> k
>
> > been very very hungry yesterday and today. ate more than we feel
> > comfortable with but body still hungry.
> > we been exercising lots and not seeing weight loss
> > (Afrika says because body in starvation mode, and exercise builds
> > muscle anyway)
>
> > lots of self h*te going on over weight.
>
> understand that lots
>
> > very down. crying. "life is pointless" kind of thing.
> > know we in a bit of a dificult place right now, and that things will
> > get better. just finding it hard.
>
> and all of that is prolly not just about the weight, anyway
>
yeah, of course. getting the ball rolling with doing other things
though :)
> > wondering maybe let everyone eat what they want? allow body to be
> > satisfied? would it make life easier?
>
> in some ways, yes
> in other ways, no
>
think body will be less shouty but those who have the ed more so?
lots af arguments.
yup :)
astri
> On Nov 16, 4:29 pm, astri <as...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, russiandolly wrote:
>>
>>> lots of self h*te going on over weight.
>>
>> understand that lots
>>
>>> very down. crying. "life is pointless" kind of thing.
>>> know we in a bit of a dificult place right now, and that things will
>>> get better. just finding it hard.
>>
>> and all of that is prolly not just about the weight, anyway
>
> yeah, of course. getting the ball rolling with doing other things
> though :)
k
>>> wondering maybe let everyone eat what they want? allow body to be
>>> satisfied? would it make life easier?
>>
>> in some ways, yes
>> in other ways, no
>
> think body will be less shouty but those who have the ed more so?
> lots af arguments.
yeah
>> you'll find your own friends when you don't hang with him
>
> yup :)
yay
confuzzled
think you got lots of wisdom
wanting to reply but been stuck inside lots and not having words
see lots of growth
know it's hard. regrets
really really glad you been posting
and grateful for your replies to some of our posts. avoiding stuff maybe
but been reading and, like we already said, think you got lots of wisdom
> he said well, it would be mean of you if you did, wouldn�t it? And
> then started saying �just think about it� and things like that (don't
> like it when he gets all patronising and condescending)
> he said �cos then it would be all about you, and that�s not fair is
> it? I mean, they were more your friends anyway, they�d all talk to you
> and not me�
>
> Jealous ****. Who the f*** does he think he is anyway? If he faced up
> to the way he is at times then maybe he�d understand why people
> struggle to get on with him. Well f*** him,. I�m glad we left him when
> we did if that�s the way he is. It�s �not fair that we take his
> friends away.� We weren�t *trying* to take his friends away for a
> start, and what�s wrong with them being our friends too? Why does it
> always have to be a war? He�ll get p***** off anyway, �cos they�ll all
> be asking after us. :P
>
> Well, we�re going to make something of ourselves, don�t need him or
> his stupid social life, we can have our own. And do you know what he
> said at the end of the conversation, after guilt-tripping us for
> feeling down? He said, �well, I just thought I�d ring you �cos it�s
> not like you�ve got any friends.� That was just mean.
confuzzled
russiandolly
wrote:
> we been reading your posts
> think you got lots of wisdom
> wanting to reply but been stuck inside lots and not having words
> see lots of growth
> know it's hard. regrets
> really really glad you been posting
> and grateful for your replies to some of our posts. avoiding stuff maybe
> but been reading and, like we already said, think you got lots of wisdom
>
aw *blushing* thanks :)
don't worry about not replying - we don't take things like that to
heart cos
a) we understand, and
b) we're too disst to notice anyway!
enjoy posting here
like feeling that we can help, and, of course, *really* like the fact
that other people can help us :)
trying to get back to the meeting book - we used to write once a day,
all sit down and say stuff, and it meant that we could stay on top of
things a lot easier, we all knew what was going on for each other and
saw potential pitfalls coming earlier. it was (is) somewhere where
everyone is welcome to write (some of them need a little coaxing), but
asd provides that for us too, so if we're struggling with each other
'on our own' so to speak, we can always come here :)
confuzzled
> On Nov 18, 4:48 am, confuzzled <nospamsometimesknownas...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> we been reading your posts
>> think you got lots of wisdom
>> wanting to reply but been stuck inside lots and not having words
>> see lots of growth
>> know it's hard. regrets
>> really really glad you been posting
>> and grateful for your replies to some of our posts. avoiding stuff maybe
>> but been reading and, like we already said, think you got lots of wisdom
>>
>
> aw *blushing* thanks :)
is all true :)
> don't worry about not replying - we don't take things like that to
> heart cos
> a) we understand, and
> b) we're too disst to notice anyway!
>
heh. ok
> enjoy posting here
am glad.
> like feeling that we can help, and, of course, *really* like the fact
> that other people can help us :)
>
yes
and you do help
> trying to get back to the meeting book - we used to write once a day,
> all sit down and say stuff, and it meant that we could stay on top of
> things a lot easier, we all knew what was going on for each other and
> saw potential pitfalls coming earlier. it was (is) somewhere where
> everyone is welcome to write (some of them need a little coaxing), but
> asd provides that for us too, so if we're struggling with each other
> 'on our own' so to speak, we can always come here :)
oooo, the meeting book sounds like a good idea
guess we sort of use asd as a meeting book. think it feels safer for
some because I guess we are nicer to each other when we at asd. asd sort
of calms folks down a bit because people know they'll get heard and also
know if they being too nasty to someone else inside it will probably be
challenged here
russiandolly
wrote:
yeah, gives them a bit more of a conscience or something.