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cometz

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Dec 31, 2009, 4:21:39 PM12/31/09
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hope for each of us and all who know suffering. hope that this will be
a new enough year that healing can happen. for all the creatures and
the lands they inhabit.

betsy and all of us

qqq eee

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Dec 31, 2009, 4:57:46 PM12/31/09
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same to yout betsy and all

astri

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Dec 31, 2009, 5:16:11 PM12/31/09
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k
ty

we don't do new years resolutions or hopes or stuff

-- astri

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cometz

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Dec 31, 2009, 5:47:52 PM12/31/09
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On Dec 31, 4:57 pm, qqq eee <iscorne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> same to yout betsy and all

thank you.

betsy

cometz

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Dec 31, 2009, 5:51:38 PM12/31/09
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oh, sorry. we don't do resolutions cause, well, if we could do
something we'd be doing it.
always have hope, even when it's crushed under despair. of course that
ticks some of us off. ;-/

anyway, i raise my glass of soymilk to the new year. in spite of my
own self. ;-)

betsy

Jennifer Thomas

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Dec 31, 2009, 5:54:29 PM12/31/09
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yes.
thank you.
your phrase "a new enough year that healing can happen" resonated with
me because of my thinking about needing enough time to pass from the
day my husb left before i'll be able to start healing.

and it reminds me of turning 30 and realizing that i was an *adult*
now, and no one could hurt me again like they did when i was a kid.

i've since learned that that was overly optimistic, but otoh it still
wasn't as bad as childhood.

and i'm at the start of a new healing journey, a journey back to
myself, if i ever knew who that was, and i need the hope you wish for
me and all others. thank you, and i wish all the best for you and
yours, as well.

jt

Juniper

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Dec 31, 2009, 6:32:31 PM12/31/09
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In article <Pine.BSI.4.64.09...@malasada.lava.net>,
astri <as...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009, cometz wrote:
>
> > hope for each of us and all who know suffering. hope that this will
> > be a new enough year that healing can happen. for all the creatures
> > and the lands they inhabit.
> >
> > betsy and all of us
>
> k
> ty
>
> we don't do new years resolutions or hopes or stuff

I don't usually do new year's resolutions, although I was very
successful with one, several years ago. I resolved to learn to like
liver. ;-) Started with chicken, then turkey, lamb, finally beef. Now
I like liver if it's properly cooked.

But generally, no resolutions.

My massage therapist gave me a good idea which replaces resolutions for
me. The context for her giving it to me was about working out in the
gym. It's that if I slack off or stop or something, I can always start
over again. It doesn't have to mean it's over or I've failed.

I can always start over.

I hang onto that instead of making a resolution.

Juniper

cometz

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Dec 31, 2009, 6:52:29 PM12/31/09
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On Dec 31, 5:54 pm, Jennifer Thomas <jtdgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 31, 4:21 pm, cometz <comet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > hope for each of us and all who know suffering. hope that this will be
> > a new enough year that healing can happen. for all the creatures and
> > the lands they inhabit.
>
> > betsy and all of us
>
> yes.
> thank you.
> your phrase "a new enough year that healing can happen" resonated with
> me because of my thinking about needing enough time to pass from the
> day my husb left before i'll be able to start healing.

but you are already healing. it doesn't just start one day. it happens
thru time and learning. each day.

>
> and it reminds me of turning 30 and realizing that i was an *adult*
> now, and no one could hurt me again like they did when i was a kid.

yeah, that's a big one. in the last ten months of m*ther's life we
learned she was old and infirm and had no more power to hurt us.
learning that the fear is about the past helps some for the now.

>
> i've since learned that that was overly optimistic, but otoh it still
> wasn't as bad as childhood.
>

to some degree i think ppl can only hurt you as much as you allow them
to. is about old scripts and repetition of past reactions. changing is
learning. learning is changing.

> and i'm at the start of a new healing journey, a journey back to
> myself, if i ever knew who that was, and i need the hope you wish for
> me and all others.  thank you, and i wish all the best for you and
> yours, as well.
>
> jt

maybe healing has been happening all the time. it is never easy or
painless. and it is always full of large mistakes and missteps. i have
had many. i expect to have more. being alive is the only way to heal
and life is not easy unless one is very dull witted or perhaps if one
is very very rich.

being alive is hope. for us anyway.

here's to 2010.

betsy

confuzzled

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Dec 31, 2009, 7:05:32 PM12/31/09
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is good wishes there. we hope the same for you(s)

astri

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Dec 31, 2009, 7:37:52 PM12/31/09
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On Thu, 31 Dec 2009, cometz wrote:
> On Dec 31, 5:16 pm, astri <as...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009, cometz wrote:
>>> hope for each of us and all who know suffering. hope that this will
>>> be a new enough year that healing can happen. for all the creatures
>>> and the lands they inhabit.
>>
>>> betsy and all of us
>>
>> k
>> ty
>>
>> we don't do new years resolutions or hopes or stuff
>
> oh, sorry. we don't do resolutions cause, well, if we could do
> something we'd be doing it.
> always have hope, even when it's crushed under despair. of course that
> ticks some of us off. ;-/
>
> anyway, i raise my glass of soymilk to the new year. in spite of my
> own self. ;-)

heh

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Catkejan

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Dec 31, 2009, 10:11:44 PM12/31/09
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On Dec 31, 5:54 pm, Jennifer Thomas <jtdgr...@gmail.com> wrote:

We wish you well on your new journey. Thank you for posting again a
few days ago--I've wondered how you were from time to time.

I made sure we walked to work on the 31st because most streets are so
empty (until later at night, but that's another story). Today the
route was very different and through a neighborhood we rarely pass
through. Around here there are these things called "peace poles" which
are signs with the words "May Peace Prevail On Earth" written in
different languages. I guess today I am in an odd mood not to live in
the past because my thought, reading that pole in the empty street,
was of one place where bad things happened that is now deserted.

Peace *did* prevail on that bit of Earth, in the end. And if not
elsewhere, well, time moves forward.

Hmm. Sorry. I wrote a lot again. Maybe it was a very odd mood. Anyway,
hello and good luck.

qqq eee

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Jan 1, 2010, 6:29:23 AM1/1/10
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>
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i like that, if we can get one part peaceful maybe all of it. :)

fuzzy

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Jan 2, 2010, 8:28:10 PM1/2/10
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Catkejan wrote:

hi

it made us smile

Catkejan

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Jan 18, 2010, 11:32:10 PM1/18/10
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On Jan 2, 8:28 pm, fuzzy <nospamsometimesknownas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Catkejan wrote:
>
> hi

Hello.

I feel like not much should make me smile. But I'm an optimist and
there are libraries with card catalogues to use.

jp

cometz

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Jan 19, 2010, 11:36:31 AM1/19/10
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i like that last bit. a lot. can i post it to my facebook page? i
wouldn't put your name or anything identifying. just credit it to the
mystery person.

confuzzled

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Jan 19, 2010, 1:31:30 PM1/19/10
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Catkejan wrote:
> On Jan 2, 8:28 pm, fuzzy <nospamsometimesknownas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Catkejan wrote:
>>
>> hi
>
> Hello.
>
:)

<...>


>>> We wish you well on your new journey. Thank you for posting again a
>>> few days ago--I've wondered how you were from time to time.
>>> I made sure we walked to work on the 31st because most streets are so
>>> empty (until later at night, but that's another story). Today the
>>> route was very different and through a neighborhood we rarely pass
>>> through. Around here there are these things called "peace poles" which
>>> are signs with the words "May Peace Prevail On Earth" written in
>>> different languages. I guess today I am in an odd mood not to live in
>>> the past because my thought, reading that pole in the empty street,
>>> was of one place where bad things happened that is now deserted.
>>> Peace *did* prevail on that bit of Earth, in the end. And if not
>>> elsewhere, well, time moves forward.
>>>
>>> Hmm. Sorry. I wrote a lot again. Maybe it was a very odd mood. Anyway,
>>> hello and good luck.
>> it made us smile
>
> I feel like not much should make me smile. But I'm an optimist and
> there are libraries with card catalogues to use.
>

card catalogues? you mean, they haven't all been replaced by computers :O

jill

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Jan 19, 2010, 10:42:12 PM1/19/10
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In article <c42b29de-d91b-4ad0...@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
Catkejan <M8R-...@mailinator.com> wrote:

>On Jan 2, 8:28=A0pm, fuzzy <nospamsometimesknownas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Catkejan wrote:
>>
>> hi
>
>Hello.
>
>> > On Dec 31, 5:54 pm, Jennifer Thomas <jtdgr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Dec 31, 4:21 pm, cometz <comet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> hope for each of us and all who know suffering. hope that this will b=

>e
>> >>> a new enough year that healing can happen. for all the creatures and
>> >>> the lands they inhabit.
>> >>> betsy and all of us
>> >> yes.
>> >> thank you.
>> >> your phrase "a new enough year that healing can happen" resonated with
>> >> me because of my thinking about needing enough time to pass from the
>> >> day my husb left before i'll be able to start healing.
>>
>> >> and it reminds me of turning 30 and realizing that i was an *adult*
>> >> now, and no one could hurt me again like they did when i was a kid.
>>
>> >> i've since learned that that was overly optimistic, but otoh it still
>> >> wasn't as bad as childhood.
>>
>> >> and i'm at the start of a new healing journey, a journey back to
>> >> myself, if i ever knew who that was, and i need the hope you wish for
>> >> me and all others. =A0thank you, and i wish all the best for you and

>> >> yours, as well.
>>
>> >> jt
>>
>> > We wish you well on your new journey. Thank you for posting again a
>> > few days ago--I've wondered how you were from time to time.
>>
>> > I made sure we walked to work on the 31st because most streets are so
>> > empty (until later at night, but that's another story). Today the
>> > route was very different and through a neighborhood we rarely pass
>> > through. Around here there are these things called "peace poles" which
>> > are signs with the words "May Peace Prevail On Earth" written in
>> > different languages. I guess today I am in an odd mood not to live in
>> > the past because my thought, reading that pole in the empty street,
>> > was of one place where bad things happened that is now deserted.
>>
>> > Peace *did* prevail on that bit of Earth, in the end. And if not
>> > elsewhere, well, time moves forward.
>>
>> > Hmm. Sorry. I wrote a lot again. Maybe it was a very odd mood. Anyway,
>> > hello and good luck.
>>
>> it made us smile
>
>I feel like not much should make me smile. But I'm an optimist and
>there are libraries with card catalogues to use.
>
>jp

If only that were true *sigh* I haven't seen a card catalog in a
library in years :P~~ The joy of just flipping through cards to
see what pops up to read is gone :(

Rainbow Colors (Jill)
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The colors blend, the edges soften. Swirling and mixing
we are becoming white light.
ji...@tuells.org

Catkejan

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Jan 20, 2010, 12:03:47 AM1/20/10
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OK.

jp

Catkejan

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Jan 20, 2010, 12:04:46 AM1/20/10
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On Jan 19, 1:31 pm, confuzzled <nospamsometimesknownas...@gmail.com>
wrote:

No, not all. That's why I wrote "to use"--because we weren't using it
only for fun.

jp

Catkejan

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Jan 20, 2010, 12:05:14 AM1/20/10
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On Jan 19, 10:42 pm, j...@tuells.org (jill) wrote:
> In article <c42b29de-d91b-4ad0-9b83-21786fdd8...@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,

Maybe I'll take a picture if I can figure out how.

cometz

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Jan 20, 2010, 11:20:44 AM1/20/10
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thanks. i wish there were some libraries around here with card
catalogues. i have an old oak card catalogue box/file. i can't bring
myself to use it for storage cause it feels like i'd be abandoning it.
so it sits in my living room like an old ghost of libraries past.

betsy

cometz

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Jan 20, 2010, 11:26:00 AM1/20/10
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you are lucky. a long while back i read that harvard (i am pretty
sure it was harvard) had shredded their entire card catalogue which
included handwritten cards and cards with notations by long deceased
librarians that included some of the finest authors in the u.s. so
stunningly terrible. ached about the stupidity.

betsy

jill

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Jan 20, 2010, 3:15:31 PM1/20/10
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In article <288de9c8-1b05-485f...@p24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
cometz <come...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jan 20, 12:04=A0am, Catkejan <M8R-5v...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 19, 1:31=A0pm, confuzzled <nospamsometimesknownas...@gmail.com>

>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Catkejan wrote:
>> > > On Jan 2, 8:28 pm, fuzzy <nospamsometimesknownas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> Catkejan wrote:
>>
>> > >> hi
>>
>> > > Hello.
>>
>> > :)
>>
>> > <...>
>>
>> > >>> We wish you well on your new journey. Thank you for posting again a
>> > >>> few days ago--I've wondered how you were from time to time.
>> > >>> I made sure we walked to work on the 31st because most streets are =

>so
>> > >>> empty (until later at night, but that's another story). Today the
>> > >>> route was very different and through a neighborhood we rarely pass
>> > >>> through. Around here there are these things called "peace poles" wh=

>ich
>> > >>> are signs with the words "May Peace Prevail On Earth" written in
>> > >>> different languages. I guess today I am in an odd mood not to live =

>in
>> > >>> the past because my thought, reading that pole in the empty street,
>> > >>> was of one place where bad things happened that is now deserted.
>> > >>> Peace *did* prevail on that bit of Earth, in the end. And if not
>> > >>> elsewhere, well, time moves forward.
>>
>> > >>> Hmm. Sorry. I wrote a lot again. Maybe it was a very odd mood. Anyw=

>ay,
>> > >>> hello and good luck.
>> > >>it made us smile
>>
>> > > I feel like not much should make me smile. But I'm an optimist and
>> > > there are libraries with card catalogues to use.
>>
>> > card catalogues? you mean, they haven't all been replaced by computers =

>:O
>>
>> No, not all. That's why I wrote "to use"--because we weren't using it
>> only for fun.
>>
>> jp
>
>you are lucky. a long while back i read that harvard (i am pretty
>sure it was harvard) had shredded their entire card catalogue which
>included handwritten cards and cards with notations by long deceased
>librarians that included some of the finest authors in the u.s. so
>stunningly terrible. ached about the stupidity.
>
>betsy

Allegedly it is all archived. Places who have done this (I think it
is Brown that just went that route) claim that they have scanned cards
into the computer to preserve historic information. I just find
computer based card catalogues to be extremely limiting.

confuzzled

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Jan 21, 2010, 1:34:10 AM1/21/10
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that sounded like something we'd read in the story people things

confuzzled

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Jan 21, 2010, 1:35:45 AM1/21/10
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<whimper>

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cometz

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Jan 23, 2010, 11:51:39 AM1/23/10
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On Jan 21, 1:34 am, confuzzled <nospamsometimesknownas...@gmail.com>
wrote:

yeah, i agree. there is something about those statements that tell so
much in so few words. and never with pretension. those are the pieces
of humans that we really love.

betsy

cometz

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Jan 23, 2010, 11:54:40 AM1/23/10
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On Jan 20, 3:15 pm, j...@tuells.org (jill) wrote:
> In article <288de9c8-1b05-485f-a3a8-2cf1701f6...@p24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>                         j...@tuells.org

oh. still not ok. if they didn't want them then they should have
offerd them to ppl who would have valued them. scanned is not a card
with the all the textures and impressions of real use and thought.

heck, they could have auctioned them off and made money for
scholarships or something. there are plenty of ppl who would have
chershed cards written by certain ppl. is just wholesale stupidity and
crassness.

betsy

cometz

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Jan 23, 2010, 12:09:34 PM1/23/10
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On Jan 21, 1:35 am, confuzzled <nospamsometimesknownas...@gmail.com>
wrote:

yes. one thing i don't ever want to become is someone who does not
value what is small and beautiful. tiny flowers in the underbrush on a
cool spring morning or handwritten cards with notations by thoughtful
humans about literature.

scanning in a computer is like pretending that an mp2 file of bach is
the same as hearing yoyo ma playing it in real.

sigh. sorry. makes me angry and sad all at the same time. so many ppl
who know this stuff happened and were saddened and outraged make it
clear that thousands of ppl would have helped rescue all these cards.
apparently the university did this without any public knowledge
(university ok, but in secret behind scenes) which says they knew
there would be an outcry. which means they knew there were possible
options to destroying them and decided not to try to save them. truly
deeply do not understand that kind of thinking and action. is the
part of humans i don't want to be part of.

sorry. too many words. hate pointlessness and hate waste.

betsy

confuzzled

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Jan 23, 2010, 4:20:39 PM1/23/10
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really liked todays

"I have heard some beautiful notes in my life, she said, but they were
nothing without the rest of the music, too."

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