Weigh-in this week

[Julie]

Hi Fellow Losers,
Well over the holidays I managed to reclaim 5lbs, and every ounce is still
clinging to me! Now that the jumbo jar of cashews from Costco is finally
empty, this next week holds a lot of promise (and probably a lot of
low-point soup).
Stay happy and healthy.
Julie

[LIMEYNO1]

Don't forget the low point veggies and dip. They really fill you up.

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[Elaine Kirkham]

Those cashews will do it every time, Julie ;-D Hope you enjoy the
low-point soups!
Elaine K

[Kristine Quilici]

Good luck with this week.

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[Fred]

I hid the Costco container of what I will call Frango chocolates.
Good luck

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:03:01 GMT, "Julie" <the.ri...@shaw.ca>
wrote:

[Julie]

OK, I'll bite - what's Frango?
Julie

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[Miss Violette]

hang in there, Lee

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[Fred]

I knew it! (G)

Okay, a number of years ago, a local shop (macy's or nordstrom's-like)
called Fredricks and Nelsons (Seattle, like Nordstroms) had a candy
called Frangos. It was packaged in an octogon shaped box. Mint
probably was the original flavor. Other flavors were developed. Kind
of a small rectangular truffle. An inner chocolate with flavor dipped
in chocolate. Some turkey managed to get control and sent them into
bankruptcy. They ceased to exist. Another local, Bon Marche, took
over the very popular Frango line, purchasing it in the bankruptcy
sale, I think. The Bon now is Bon-Macy's.

So they still produce the item but it was made for them by a local
chocolateer (spelling?). Recently, they changed manufacturers. The
local guy decided to create a similar confection. A legal bruhaha.
He managed to develop something very similar but packaging was not
permitted in the octogon box. So they just made a larger plain
plastic jar and it is distributed by Costco. Doing well from what I
understand.

Therein lies a long short story.

But it does have an axiom. Just this weekend, when I was discussing
portion control with a Frango freak (g), I discussed Skinny Cows and
the individual and therefore, portion control angle, of one item
instead of a tub of ice cream. Then I noted that the old octogon
Frango box held much fewer candies then the Costco JAR she had already
consumed. There was a tendency to hold back in the octogon so that
there would be some left over for another day/week. The larger jar,
huge, actually, does not cause that same tendency or hesitancy.
There's plenty more. Therefore, more candies per sitting and not as
self-limiting.

Aren't you glad you asked?

(GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG)

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 03:39:15 GMT, "Julie" <the.ri...@shaw.ca>
wrote:

[Miss Violette]

it was interesting to me, self limiting is important in snack foods. andes
mints for example, in a nice box but individually wrapped, Lee

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[krys]

it's a new year new start thing for many of us i reckon
so best of luck to us all :)
hope you're enjoying the soup *grin*

--
krys

UK 157/135.2/126
Started March 1st 2001
GOAL August 16th 2001
struggling now......but making progress.

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[Fred]

Ah, yes, Andes mints - she was an addict with those also - her
Grandmother would always serve those.

Actually, if you are interested, here were just some of the
temptations over the New Years weekend:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/DSCN3069.JPG

And then a Room with a View:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/DSCN3090.JPG

And then a panorama where I was skiing:

http://fk8660.home.att.net/CommunityTrail.jpg

OH, and I am sorry - but these a photos and maybe DH can explain them.

CASE is important on AT&T sites for url's.

[Joyce]

Are these Frangos the same as the original Chicago based Frango Mints? At one
time they were only found for sale at Marshall Fields, and highly sought after.
Now Target sells them also (Target is a division of Fields), and the Chicago
manufacturing plant has been shut down.

Joyce

[Joyce]

Hey! I had the exact same plastic storage containers ... 'cept mine were filled
with fudge and toffee. <G> Down to 5 pieces of fudge left. <sigh> Once again,
gorgeous photos!

Joyce

[Fred]

Oh, you're on top of things today. I like what you keyed in on -
storage containers (G)

The fourth style of cookie was in the fridge!!!

I think I'm regaining the NON-holiday attitude - finally.

But see the article Prairie posted on chubby men due to aging! (sigh)

[Fred]

YUP - you got it. Marshall Fields had some connection either with The
Bon or or Fredricks. I can't remember. I think that they were also
originally a holiday item and then expanded to yearly available.

[Joyce]

Probably a good thing I didn't mention the pfaltzgraff dishes or the tupperware
measuring scoop, huh? It is odd though that I focused on the storage container
BEFORE the cookies ... although those on the top rack look interesting. Are they
some sort of meringue? And what kind were you hiding from us?

I think I'm also back into the non-holiday attitude, finally. I've had more than
my share of fruits, salads and veggies this week, and they sure were good.
Chicken twice for dinner, fish, and had a lean pork tenderloin thrown in somewhere
along the line.

I'll have to look for the article PR posted, think I missed it along the line. My
mind has been shot, but I'm feeling better now.

Joyce

[Joyce]

Glad something in the memory bank is working today. <G> I do remember them being
a holiday item, many years ago. When my sister first moved to the city she would
buy everyone Frango's. Then they became a year round item, then started expanding
flavors if I recall correctly. It was somewhere along this line that (to me
anyway) they stopped being *special*. Probably a good thing, or I would just have
had one more thing to splurge on.

I don't know where they are being produced now, but it is no longer Chicago. And
I just heard today that Fanny May is also closing it's doors. Hub told me that
when the stores empty their shelves, that is it. I told him there was no way I
was going to bring anymore chocolate into this house, at this time! <g>

Joyce

[Fred]

Yes, the top ones were made especially for me since she knows I
indulge in Ms Meringues! But there were not exactly perfect - she did
add bran flakes but also pecans. They were very good.

The others were toffee chips. I'm missing the third ones right now
but the fourth variety were a Nanimo type thingie. Brownie bottom,
sugar, butter, cream filling and then a chocolate glaze top! The
fourth were a chocolate cookie with raisins I think. Then there was
a terrific 5th cookie she had saved in the freezer from another bake -
it was terrific even though it was not chocolate - it was a cookie but
made from a yeast raised dough - flakey, terrific. But I did ski
something like 25-30 miles with some good elevation. The non-meringue
were actually not made for me but a "girls'" potluck that I
fortunately did not attend (G)

Sounds like we need time to wind down holidays but know the program
and the skills.

[Fred]

A CHOCOLATE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SALE????????????? (G)

[Miss Violette]

thanks for sharing, will have him look at them he is interested in
photography so will probably enjoy them, Lee

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[Julie]

Oh, I'd never heard of "Frango" - I thought it was an abbreviation of FRed
ANd GObs of chocolate!
Julie

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[Fred]

Hey, I'll patent that! (G)

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 01:08:21 GMT, "Julie" <the.ri...@shaw.ca>
wrote:

[Prairie Roots]

The cookies look yummy, but I love the panoramic landscape photo. I
don't think my new digicam takes panoramic shots... Something I should
check into.

Thanks for posting these. I get wistful about going to the mountains
whenever you post your pictures.

Prairie Roots

[Laura]

Great pictures.

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[Fred]

The cookies WERE yummy (G)

As for the landscape pan shot - it is actually five separate pictures
and a separate program stitched them together automatically. You just
have to make sure that there is sufficient overlap between sidebyside
images for it to work.

I think that I HAVE TO LIVE near mountains. I also like knowing the
ocean is somewhere nearby - altho, it is much further from Seattle
than most people think.

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 23:06:18 -0600, Prairie Roots <m...@privacy.net>
wrote:

[Kristin]

Hi Julie, sorry for the five pounds but it'll come back off. :) Hang in
there!

--

~Kristin O~
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[Brenda Hammond]

Thanks for sharing the pics Fred. I think I'd skip the cookies, although
they do look good. I wouldn't mind a few nights away in a room with a view
like that though! Beautiful!
--
Brenda
209/178/150
RafL goal 165

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[Fred]

Welcome. I skipped some of the cookies.

Altho, (back to that other thread on the skiing and feeling good) - I
do think that eating more while and after skiing this last period may
be explained by the fact that I have less "stores" in body fat to
expend that much energy and keep going that many hours. So maybe the
munchies are a reasonable reaction as long as I don't carry it out
over a full week. I still think banking activity points after really
heavy exertion is acceptable for me on occasion.

It really is nice - it's the Washington version of the Okanogan!

[Brenda Hammond]

Makes sense. I think that with the amount of exercise you get you can
afford to eat more. I on the other hand, don't get in nearly as much
exercise, so eating more is a really bad choice for me to make,
unfortunately it's one I've been making ALOT lately.

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[Fred]

Okay, how do we get you out and active more? (G) I know you are
pretty tied up with the business and your son - so compromise is in
order. Somehow you do NEED the willpower. Or try filling up with
more and more and MORE veggies (g)

My secretary today had the new WW calculator. It does food points and
she asked for my activities this weekend. She freaked when I told her
STRENUOUS, FOUR HOURS and my weight and came up with 16+ points or
more each day. And last week's 3 days of skiing was probably more
than that. She did think that I do need to eat but could not suggest
realistically how much. I probably do need to count points again and
journal more again.

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:12:39 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"

[Brenda Hammond]

"Fred" <67516...@compuserve.com> wrote in message

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> Okay, how do we get you out and active more? (G) I know you are
> pretty tied up with the business and your son - so compromise is in
> order. Somehow you do NEED the willpower. Or try filling up with
> more and more and MORE veggies (g)

I do try to get as much exercise as I can while at work. If I need to do
errands and I'm not in a hurry I'll walk to wherever it is I need to go.
Now that the shop is larger I'm constantly on the go there, from one side to
the other. I need to find a pedometer and track how far I go in a day just
in the shop. I would probably be surprised at the amount of walking I do
just in that space.

Nicholas also keeps me busy. I find the days just fly by and are gone
before I know it. They need to be about 8 hours longer... No that's a bad
idea because there would be more time to eat!

Tonight instead of high fat/calorie snacks I had 0 point soup and fruit.
Off to a good start today. Totally within points! Now I'm hoping I can
stay there! Oh, did manage to get in my allotment of water today too.

>
> My secretary today had the new WW calculator. It does food points and
> she asked for my activities this weekend. She freaked when I told her
> STRENUOUS, FOUR HOURS and my weight and came up with 16+ points or
> more each day. And last week's 3 days of skiing was probably more
> than that. She did think that I do need to eat but could not suggest
> realistically how much. I probably do need to count points again and
> journal more again.

I've begun journalling today and so far I'm doing well. It's just a matter
of keeping it up. I thought once about a WW calculator, but don't think I'd
get enough use out of it. I use Dustin's point calculator alot, also use
the WW online one and MasterCook.

[Fred]

Sounds like a good day and a good start to a good week (G)

Keep it up, ehem, down.

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 22:13:33 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"

[Brenda Hammond]

So far so good. Another good day today, but not enough water yet. I'm
waiting for the kettle to boil for a lemon tea and then I'll have a few more
glasses of water. Still have four points left for the day too, so I even
get a snack tonight. Think I'll go for some lowfat popcorn. Maybe even
some lowfat yogurt with frozen blackberries (picked last summer).

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[Fred]

snack, snack, snack ...... (sigh)

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:20:46 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"

[Brenda Hammond]

Don't you have snack points left over today? <G>. I can't believe I do,
usually it's the opposite! I'm even eating the right kind of snacks, no
chocolate, cookies, chips...Darn, now I want another snack and I've got 3
points left, so I'm off to get some yogurt and blackberries. That will get
rid of another 1.5 points.

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[Fred]

There are points but there are SNACKS - notice the difference in CASE!
(G)

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:11:08 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"

[Fred]

I should also add that I have not been journaling which is probably a
mistake. Most of the snacking has been dried fruit but with
occasional gummy bear bouts that plus the meringues!

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:26:37 -0800, Fred <67516...@compuserve.com>
wrote:

[Brenda Hammond]

I don't buy gummy bears, can't avoid them if they're in the house. Nicholas
has a bad habit of sucking on them, then leaving them stuck to different
pieces of furniture or carpets, so that's another good reason NOT to buy
them.

Another good day for me today, three in a row now!

--
Brenda
209/178/150
RafL goal 165

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[Fred]

Maybe I should do that with my gummy bears - not eat them totally and
save parts for later (G)

[Brenda Hammond]

Just don't forget where you've put the leftovers! I've found them in almost
any place you could imagine, within reason of course. Places that a 3 year
old would leave things....

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[Joyce]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. My sister used to make a similar recipe, but left the nuts out.
It's been many years since she has made them ... for me anyway. <g> And I love
anything with toffee, and of course .. chocolate! Probably a good thing I wasn't
near you during the holidays - had a hard enough time with the temptations just in
my home, without adding the goodies at yours. <g>

I did a good job winding down, for some goofy reason this week *feels* like it has
been out of control again. Again, nothing major but I seem to be constantly
hungry and nibbling. Not good, not good - but am moving forward and taking each
day as it comes.

Ok - have a trader joes oatmeal question for you ...

I went today, looked at the McCann's oatmeal - and there are 3 cans to choose
from. Steel Cut oats, Fine cut oats, and Irish Oats. Now which one do I buy?
LOL! I put them all back and decided to come ask you first. <g> I did let
daughter talk me into some coconut icecream though - is pre-portioned into
individual little coconut shells (think this is why she wanted it) and 150some
calories ... not too bad. For me, I chose the orange sorbet which is packed in
little orange rinds - 87 calories (I think). Boy I love this place, something new
and exciting always jumps out at me.

Joyce

[Joyce]

LOL! I don't know if anything was sale-priced or not, I refuse to go into the
store to find out. If I don't go in, nothing will come into my home. <G> I did
hear on the news today that there is a possibility that another US company may
purchase Fanny May. But they are notorious for purchasing companies like these
and immediately closing the doors. Wonder why they bother?

Joyce

[Miss Violette]

the two stores in Springfield are now devoid of chocolates, Lee
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[Fred]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 00:55:21 -0600, Joyce <jo...@123.net> wrote:

>mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. My sister used to make a similar recipe, but left the nuts out.
>It's been many years since she has made them ... for me anyway. <g> And I love
>anything with toffee, and of course .. chocolate! Probably a good thing I wasn't
>near you during the holidays - had a hard enough time with the temptations just in
>my home, without adding the goodies at yours. <g>

Luckily it was not my house and she supports my program but does make
cookies. When she offered, she limited my selections and numbers
since most were going to a potluck.

>I did a good job winding down, for some goofy reason this week *feels* like it has
>been out of control again. Again, nothing major but I seem to be constantly
>hungry and nibbling. Not good, not good - but am moving forward and taking each
>day as it comes.

I got back to Journaling yesterday. Will see if I can continue it.

>Ok - have a trader joes oatmeal question for you ...
>
>I went today, looked at the McCann's oatmeal - and there are 3 cans to choose
>from. Steel Cut oats, Fine cut oats, and Irish Oats. Now which one do I buy?
>LOL! I put them all back and decided to come ask you first. <g> I did let
>daughter talk me into some coconut icecream though - is pre-portioned into
>individual little coconut shells (think this is why she wanted it) and 150some
>calories ... not too bad. For me, I chose the orange sorbet which is packed in
>little orange rinds - 87 calories (I think). Boy I love this place, something new
>and exciting always jumps out at me.

Oh, great, now you've added to my confusion but Maybe I'm lucky by
choice limitations - STEEL CUT are the ones I've got downstairs
(thanks for the exercise incentive (G)) I wonder what the Irish Oats
are?

[Joyce]

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:37:18 -0800, Fred <67516...@compuserve.com> wrote:

>
>
>On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 00:55:21 -0600, Joyce <jo...@123.net> wrote:
>
>>mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. My sister used to make a similar recipe, but left the nuts out.
>>It's been many years since she has made them ... for me anyway. <g> And I love
>>anything with toffee, and of course .. chocolate! Probably a good thing I wasn't
>>near you during the holidays - had a hard enough time with the temptations just in
>>my home, without adding the goodies at yours. <g>
>
>Luckily it was not my house and she supports my program but does make
>cookies. When she offered, she limited my selections and numbers
>since most were going to a potluck.

You were fortunate then, at least you were limited in the quantities and didn't
have the treats constantly beckoning you. <G>

>>I did a good job winding down, for some goofy reason this week *feels* like it has
>>been out of control again. Again, nothing major but I seem to be constantly
>>hungry and nibbling. Not good, not good - but am moving forward and taking each
>>day as it comes.
>
>I got back to Journaling yesterday. Will see if I can continue it.
>
>>Ok - have a trader joes oatmeal question for you ...
>>
>>I went today, looked at the McCann's oatmeal - and there are 3 cans to choose
>>from. Steel Cut oats, Fine cut oats, and Irish Oats. Now which one do I buy?
>>LOL! I put them all back and decided to come ask you first. <g> I did let
>>daughter talk me into some coconut icecream though - is pre-portioned into
>>individual little coconut shells (think this is why she wanted it) and 150some
>>calories ... not too bad. For me, I chose the orange sorbet which is packed in
>>little orange rinds - 87 calories (I think). Boy I love this place, something new
>>and exciting always jumps out at me.
>
>Oh, great, now you've added to my confusion but Maybe I'm lucky by
>choice limitations - STEEL CUT are the ones I've got downstairs
>(thanks for the exercise incentive (G)) I wonder what the Irish Oats
>are?

Ok, Steel Cut it is - I hate to have you go to all that exertion for nothing.
I'll give them a try next week, think I'm stocked to the gills right now with
Trader Joe stuff. <G> I'll take a look and see what the Irish Oats are - if the
can even states a difference. All the cans do look identical though, so have to
be pretty careful when making that selection.

And just to get you going ... if you ever decide you want a switch from the
pre-portioned skinny cow treats ... my daughter just had to have some coconut
icecream from them (scooped into little coconut shells, pretty cute). I tried the
Orange Givrees this evening (orange sorbet), worked out to 1.78 points (if I
remember correctly) and were darned good! Again, a pre-measured item so making
those scooping mistakes is taken care of for us. <G> I did have a taste of
daughters coconut, was also very good but a bit higher in points - 3.70.

Joyce
>

[Joyce]

I haven't checked our store out and don't plan on it, but by news reports I have a
feeling it is also empty. Todays newspaper said there were still products
available in the warehouse and they would be shipping and restocking ... not sure
how true that is though. I did notice the case in our grocery store was empty
today. It's ok, I definitely do not need any more chocolate! <G>

Joyce

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:39:30 -0600, "Miss Violette" <Rgr...@consolidated.net>
wrote:

>the two stores in Springfield are now devoid of chocolates, Lee

[Miss Violette]

I like some of their things so will have DH check again, I don't have a
problem freezing it, I am not that worked up about chocolate and the freezer
it would be in is in the cold garage, Lee

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[Stan]

I was under the impression that Steel Cut and Irish Oats are the same
thing. My guess is that they're all the same process (the oats are
chopped with steel blades, as opposed to "rolled" oats which are
steamed to soften them and then pressed flat to cook faster), but are
cut to different levels of fineness.

I haven't tried any of them, but I've been thinking about it lately.
Oatmeal makes me queasy, but maybe it's the texture of the rolled
oats.

Stan

[Fred]

First this, a link to McCann's getting right to the heart of the
matter. I only see STEEL CUT but they are made from Irish Oats. Then
they have some quickie types etc but I think there is really only the
one and depends on which side of the mcCAN you look at (G)

http://www.mccanns.ie/pages/products.html

They also have FAQ and prep ideas including the one I did on my own -
making a larger batch and reheating daily, as needed. Also the
overnight method and a microwave method (I had tried on my own and ran
into the bubbling trouble they mention!)

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 02:36:21 -0600, Joyce <jo...@123.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:37:18 -0800, Fred <67516...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 00:55:21 -0600, Joyce <jo...@123.net> wrote:
>>
>>>mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. My sister used to make a similar recipe, but left the nuts out.
>>>It's been many years since she has made them ... for me anyway. <g> And I love
>>>anything with toffee, and of course .. chocolate! Probably a good thing I wasn't
>>>near you during the holidays - had a hard enough time with the temptations just in
>>>my home, without adding the goodies at yours. <g>
>>
>>Luckily it was not my house and she supports my program but does make
>>cookies. When she offered, she limited my selections and numbers
>>since most were going to a potluck.
>
>You were fortunate then, at least you were limited in the quantities and didn't
>have the treats constantly beckoning you. <G>

Well, I had my dried fruit and was trying to eat that. But, again,
too much of a good thing???

Okay. I will think about it. I also think that I need a
free-standing freezer. Mine is stuffed tight and just now trying to
get the bread in there I dumped the OLD english muffins which I don't
use anyway.

[Fred]

The steel cut are very good and not pasty like the rolled oats. Their
website has recipes for taboule (sp) and risotto, made with oats (G)

[Joyce]

Thanks for the info Stan, I was really confused when at the store - but left my
glasses at home so couldn't investigate the different cans very well (other than
reading the LARGE print). I'm going to pick a can up this week and give them a
try.

Joyce

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 09:46:01 -0600, Stan <sta...@onramp.nounderscore.net> wrote:

[Joyce]

Thanks for the link! I have it bookmarked, will do some reading later when I have
a bit more time (between loads of laundry). I wonder if maybe what I saw as being
Irish and Steel cut ... were packages that had been turned around on the shelf?

Joyce