In article <GU6xa.8941$9X1.326...@twister.austin.rr.com>, "Duffy Pratt" <y...@houston.rr.com> wrote:
> Its odd to see Atkin's dieters using the argument that most doctors prefer > one form of dieting over the other. People who went with what most doctors > thought would not be on this diet in the first place.
The idea that permanent weight-loss is slow weight-loss is, IIRC, far more supported by research than low-fat ever was. Additionally, there is also research that shows extreme changes in weight in either direction (losing or gaining a lot in a short amount of time) is, in fact, worse for your health than maintaining extra weight. Losing weight slowly is also in line with what we know about human psychology. People rarely make massive, wholesale changes in their lives successfully. Incremental change has a much higher success rate. Our little hyper-puncuated troll is just full of shit on this point.
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On Fri, 16 May 2003 15:07:44 GMT, Sacrilicious Tiger
<fnpevyvpvbhfgv...@lnubb.pbz> wrote: >The idea that permanent weight-loss is slow weight-loss is, IIRC, far >more supported by research than low-fat ever was. Additionally, there >is also research that shows extreme changes in weight in either >direction (losing or gaining a lot in a short amount of time) is, in >fact, worse for your health than maintaining extra weight. Losing >weight slowly is also in line with what we know about human psychology. >People rarely make massive, wholesale changes in their lives >successfully. Incremental change has a much higher success rate.
Thanks for posting this. Sometimes, when I see other people losing really fast, I feel bad about my slower weight loss. If I can think of it as a healthy way of doing things, I can feel better about myself. :-)
Carol -- 226/200/150 May Challenge Goal - 199 Atkins since 1-26-2003 Type 2 Diabetic since 5-15-2001
> in article 9b131aeb.0305152232.3365a...@posting.google.com, BB at > fib...@hotmail.com wrote on 5/16/03 2:32 AM:
> > Now spare me the rederick
> rederick ?
Shows his true genius. Anybody can spell "rhetoric" the old-fashioned way. Only someone truly creative and with a solid 3rd grade grounding can change it to this nearly incomprehensible form. Have to admire someone who's willing to say extraordinarily stupid things with that excess of punctuation and lack of content in front of grownups.
> in article Xj4xa.1313$6T4.662...@news2.news.adelphia.net, Suzanne at > suz...@adelphia.net wrote on 5/16/03 7:54 AM:
> > I assume that this is what bubba really meant:
> > rhet·o·ric (rtr-k) > > n. > > 1.. > > 1.. The art or study of using language effectively and persuasively. > > 2.. A treatise or book discussing this art. > > 2.. Skill in using language effectively and persuasively. > ==========
> That's it ! (G)
And the reason he wants us to spare him the "rederick" is because it's rather over his head?
> > in article Xj4xa.1313$6T4.662...@news2.news.adelphia.net, Suzanne at > > suz...@adelphia.net wrote on 5/16/03 7:54 AM:
> > > I assume that this is what bubba really meant:
> > > rhet·o·ric (rtr-k) > > > n. > > > 1.. > > > 1.. The art or study of using language effectively and persuasively. > > > 2.. A treatise or book discussing this art. > > > 2.. Skill in using language effectively and persuasively. > > ==========
> > That's it ! (G)
> And the reason he wants us to spare him the "rederick" is because it's > rather over his head?
>> SO many of you still don't get it, you're just being stubborn and you >> know you are. It's not okay to be overweight! There I said it. It's >> not okay, no matter how you slice it or dice it, but that's what so >> many of you are eluding to.
> This group would not even exist if anyone here thought it was 'okay' > to be overweight.
>> At least you're doing something about it.....but it's only one part!!
> Did you read anything I said?
Maybe. But only to look for things to pick apart. Its not worth it to argue with this piece of excrement. He's not going to listen, much less consider the reasonableness of what you have to say. He's too wrapped up in stroking his own ego.
Why tear someone down for only doing
> 'one part' when one part really is better than no part at all? One > thing at a time - many, many people have failed in healthly lifestyle > changes because they tried to change too _many_ things at once. That > doesn't just go for diet and exercise - it can go for just about > anything. If you make your proposed way of life too hard to keep up > with, then you're not going to keep up with it. If you make it such > that you feel stressed just getting out of bed knowing you have all > this 'stuff' to do that you don't want to do or aren't looking > forward to doing, you're a lot more likely to throw in the towel on > ALL of it. I have not yet heard one single person on this NG say, > "Nope - exercise is bad for you and I'm not going to do any of it". > So let people come to it in their own time - they'll be a lot more > successful over the long run that way.
Plenty of people here regularly mention excercise, we just don't beat others over the head with it because we expect folks here to be grownups, not children that we have to nag-- strike that-- this isn't nagging, you can feel the hate rolling off the screen. In my opinion this guy wants us to fail by overdoing it so he can feel superior-- his puritan streak is showing.
>> You mean to tell me that it's healtheir >> being 70 pounds overweight than losing it quickly???????? NO IT's >> not!
> Excessive punctuation does not lend credibility to this ridiculous > statement. Most doctors will tell you that losing weight slowly is > better than losing it more quickly. You need a clue. Or ten. > .. > Bridget M. > Atkins maintenance for life.
Excessive punctuation is the sign of a diseased mind.
> ... > Did most of you take 9 years to get your A.A Degree??? Did most of you > start walking when you were 5? Just curious? I think I'm starting to > understand....thanks....
Funny that you're implying that people here have no education or are slow learners - http://tinyurl.com/byxa - Google archived post
> This diet isn't the Silver Bullet that so many of you seem to think it > is!!!
It has been for me. I can eat as much as I want, with no excercise other than what I get in my job as a custodian. I can even drink a 12 pack of Mich Ultra a day. As long as I avoid carby foods, I stay right around 155. I don't look great, but I do look good. Good enough to look good on stage. I feel good too. Now, not everyone could maintain on that much LC beer, but it's pretty much a sure thing that if you pretty much eliminate carbs, and go to a 60-75% of dietary calories from fats, and eat lots of leafy veggies, you WILL go into big time ketosis, and you WILL start losing weight. Staying at induction levels will pretty much assure continuing weight loss.
Don't try to discourage people on this NG. Ketogenic eating is extremely effective.
oooooh. ....sorry :-) I had killfiled BB and so wasn't able to see that.... should have known better....I'll just slink back to my 'meek and mild' mode then, shall I... LOL!!
Brenda
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