Bike Ride...

[hemyd]

To the "stuff yourself full of carbs brigade"....... Now <that> should get
all the trolls going!

Anyway, on our bush property there is a 200 metre long driveway, grass and
dirt. Having had a slice of multi grain toas for breakfast, I did 10 laps of
that driveway - only 4 kilometres, but exertion wise equivalent to about 10
on my road bike on a highway. Having started with an fbg of 85, after the
bike ride I had 108 (don't know what the max was of the toast). Not bad.

My philosophy is that I try to avoid eating carbs unless I can work them off
by physical exercise. I will rarely use the "easy option" and stuff myself
full of insulin so I can indulge "in the food that I love".

And when I can't exercise? I go extra low carb. And when the time comes and
I can't exercise at all??? I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

Henry.

[%]

i ride 20 miles 3 times a week , doesn't do a thing for me

[Ozgirl]

"hemyd" <myd!!!h...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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What did you have with the toast?

[Ozgirl]

"hemyd" <myd!!!h...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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I got this link on Jenny's Facebook page recently:

http://www.phlaunt.com/lowcarb/DietMakeupCalc.php

What interested me most was her protein intake suggestions. This
calculator isn't just for weight loss suggestions but for maintaining
weight as well.

[hemyd]

"%" <per...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Try 3 miles 20 times a week....

Henry.

[hemyd]

"Ozgirl" <are_we_t...@maccas.com> wrote in message
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Slice of yellow cheese melted on, and topped with generaous layer of
Ricotta. From past measurements, bg goes up to about 9 (162) an hour after.

As of a couple of weeks ago I gave up the toast for breakfast. I had it this
morning only because I knew I could hop on the bike and ride it off.

Henry.

[hemyd]

"Ozgirl" <are_we_t...@maccas.com> wrote in message

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There is actually another formula I'd like to come across, if such a thing
exists - a comparison of exertion between riding on grass and dirt with wide
tyres inflated to about 45 lbs psi on one hand, versus riding an alloy frame
road bike with narrow tyres inflated to 80 lbs psi, running on solid
highway. Add to that the fact that commuting on the highway, as I did a few
years ago, I'd be stopping at lights (as cyclists do occasionally) every
five ten minutes..... I made a "gut feeling" estimate that 4 kilometres on
the former is worth about ten kilometres on the latter.

Henry.

[Ozgirl]

"hemyd" <myd!!!h...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message

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I tend to have a lot of protein with a piece of toast at breakfast. 2-3
eggs at least worked for me. Gain toast and Vegemite produced a rise.

[Ozgirl]

"hemyd" <myd!!!h...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message

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lol, I'll leave you to that one ;)

[Budd Cochran]

"hemyd" <myd!!!h...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Really good numbers,, Henry.

The other day my A.M. Bg was 95 and during the day I shredded/ mulched 400
pounds of brush and leaves, rebuilt the primary drive on my '52 Cushman
scooter, helped load and unload the 225 pound chipper /mulcher when my
brother took it back home, moved another 450 pounds of brush and leaves to
the chipping site via pitchfork, and I ate two 4" pancakes w/ syrup, 2 eggs,
2 sausage links for breakfast, a deviled ham sandwhich on two slices of
whole wheat bread with snack size bag of potato chips and at my supper test
my Bg was 74.

Of course, the breads, syrup, sausage, potato chips and deviled ham were
all home-made with no preservatives or added sugars.

Estimated calories for the 2 meals: no idea at all because the foods don't
have the carbs found in store bought stuff. And since I don't test but twice
daily I have no idea of and am not worried about any spiking.

Eating higher carbs can only be offset with the burning of those carbs and
on your diet, I couldn't have finished the morning let alone the whole
twelve hour day.

Please don't slam "high carbers" anymore. Some of us are just too active to
survive a low carb diet.


--
Budd

Every vote counts ... unless you don't vote.

[Budd Cochran]

Was that bicycle miles or other transportation means miles?

--
Budd

Every vote counts ... unless you don't vote.

"%" <per...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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[GysdeJongh]

Hi Henry,
the ancient Greek invented the concept "Cause". It states that a specific
event Y will only and always happen after a specific event X. Than X is the
Cause of Y. It's a useless concept Imo.

Some effects don't have a cause, some causes don't have an effect. Some
events only seem to happen after more than 1 cause. Some events only seem to
happen after a mirad of causes. Systems like the weather cannot be predicted
because a mirad of causes are entangled with a mirad of effects.

In real life there are clusters of events that tend to happen together. But
not always and not all of them at once.

Moving, Health, Eating are events entangled in the effect Existing, living.
If I eat I live, if I live I eat, if I move I'm happy, if I'm happy I move,
if I move I live, if I eat and move I'm healthy, if I'm healthy I eat and
move, if I'm healthy I eat and move (work) to the benefits of my family and
humanity will continue to exist.

I agree with you that this cluster of events will eventually stop for me
personally. I'm grateful it won't last forever.

Gys

[hemyd]

"Budd Cochran" <mr_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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A joke, Joyce!!! As you may have noticed, I am not into slamming anyone.
Several people have constantly slammed the "low carb brigade", and this is
my humorous riposte.

You are indeed lucky you can exercise your way out of anything you eat. A
while ago I also estimated that if I exercised more, I could do away with
medication. Now, more than ten years down the track, the "rules have
changed". Now I feel I am lucky to be able to exercise as much as I do.

Henry.

[hemyd]

"GysdeJongh" <JonghSevenHundredElevenAtPlanet.nl> wrote in message
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Thanks Gys! A few days ago I advised my 86 year old m-i-l "don't worry about
tomorrow, don't worry about yesterday - enjoy what you are doing now" As I
said it, I could not help thinking "do I really practice what I preach?"
Well, although I try at times, if often doesn't work. Yet I <do> things
without worrying too much what the next day will bring...

Thank you once again for the philosophy!

Henry

[Chris Malcolm]

Formulas for bicycle work are much disputed, partly because so many of
the important variables are so hard to quantify with enough
precision. But there's a very simple way of finding an equation
between your two kinds of bike and road. Find a constant slope which
you can coast down slowly enough (no brakes) that the bike reaches a
terminal velocity, i.e. limited by air drag, for the two kinds of
surface and bike.

Adjust terminal velocity for the air drag factor and you have your
equation.

Even easier maths but harder experimentally: find the minimum slope on
each which only just lets the bike and rider roll down slowly.

--
Chris Malcolm

[Budd Cochran]

A joke? Really??? I didn't see a bit of humor in it.

I'm sorry, but since I've been slammed, repeatedly, for what works for me,
which includes the fact I'm too darn busy to go for bike rides, or pay
exorbitant gym fees for a few short sessions a week from money I don't have,
one gets a bit touchy when negative comments are made bout a lifestyle other
than "low carb".

IMHO, and in no way do I claim this will work for anyone else, the more
activity in a person's life the more carbs they NEED to sustain that
activity. I'm very active and I eat what amounts to normal, non-diabetic,
meals and I still run out of enegy at the end of the day.

--
Budd

Every vote counts ... unless you don't vote.

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[hemyd]

"Budd Cochran" <mr_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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>A joke? Really??? I didn't see a bit of humor in it.
>
> I'm sorry, but since I've been slammed, repeatedly, for what works for me,
> which includes the fact I'm too darn busy to go for bike rides, or pay
> exorbitant gym fees for a few short sessions a week from money I don't
> have, one gets a bit touchy when negative comments are made bout a
> lifestyle other than "low carb".
>
> IMHO, and in no way do I claim this will work for anyone else, the more
> activity in a person's life the more carbs they NEED to sustain that
> activity. I'm very active and I eat what amounts to normal, non-diabetic,
> meals and I still run out of enegy at the end of the day.
>
> --
> Budd
>
> Every vote counts ... unless you don't vote.
>
>

All I can say, Budd, is to wish you a long life of activity! I suppose just
as those well enough to exercise should not expect everyone to do it, so
inversely those too frail should not detract others from the need to be
active.

I don't know if you remember Guy Williams (an older gentlemnan I had a lot
of time for). Having had badly mismanaged diabetes (largely through bad
guidance), he had one entire leg amputated and the other up to his knee (I
might be wrong there). He once wrote that at his home he rode around in his
wheelchair planting trees. He managed his diabetes most aggressively. He
passed away lasy year (time flies - probably a couple of years ago now) at
the age of almost 81.

Henry.

[None Given]

On May 6, 8:58 pm, "Budd Cochran" <mr_d...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> A joke? Really??? I didn't see a bit of humor in it.
>
> I'm sorry, but since I've been slammed, repeatedly, for what works for me,
> which includes the fact I'm too darn busy to go for bike rides, or pay
> exorbitant gym fees for a few short sessions a week from money I don't have,
> one gets a bit touchy when negative comments are made bout a lifestyle other
> than "low carb".
>
> IMHO, and in no way do I claim this will work for anyone else, the more
> activity in a person's life the more carbs they NEED to sustain that
> activity. I'm very active and I eat what amounts to normal, non-diabetic,
> meals and I still run out of enegy at the end of the day.
>
> --
> Budd
>
> Every vote counts ... unless you don't vote.
>

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I've done miles and miles on low carb, med carb and moderately hi
carb.
One doesn't need carbs in high levels to go the miles.

I prefer the lower carb levels in fact for the
distance .............Trig

[hemyd]

"None Given" <trigonom...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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When I was doing a lot of riding, I'd often think before a bike ride "now I
can eat whatever I like..." but then I'd thing that "whatever I like" didn't
matter that much to me anyway. The one exception was that before the odd
long bike ride I'd allow myself an occasional yummy dessert that I wouldn't
eat otherwise.

Henry.

[Budd Cochran]

"hemyd" <myd!!!h...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message

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That's what gets me the most: I do not expect anyone to be as active as I
am, I don't insist they be as active as I am and I am a big advocate of
"YMMV".

Yet those that have derided my lifestyle insist they know their diet /
exercise plan is for EVERYBODY!!!

I wish all here as long and as active a life as they can enjoy.

But YMMV . . . . .

[Budd Cochran]

"None Given" <trigonom...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Fine ... for you . . . .

But not for me as I do a lot more than in a day than low / no carbs would
allow me to considering that 3-5 times a week my P.M. Bg's are in the mid
60's to low 70's before supper and I usually need a carby snack just to give
me enough energy for supper ... otherwise I fall asleep.

[Julie Bove]

"Budd Cochran" <mr_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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Yeah. I am getting sick of it. Seems like more and more people here are
militant low carbers. Well, that just doesn't work for *me*. And while
some would say that I am different, they also seem to find it hard to
believe that anyone else might just be like *me*!

[None Given]

On May 7, 8:33 pm, "Budd Cochran" <mr_d...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "None Given" <trigonometry1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

I don't go that low that I know of. So your mileage is different, IMO.

[None Given]

On May 7, 10:41 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
> "Budd Cochran" <mr_d...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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It's a reaction to the militant high carbers, IMO. For me part of low
carbing
restricts the choices of foods such that I tend to be lower calorie in
part.
Indeed, I need to watch the diet when it is high in peanut carbs.

then again I do other things like run.......................Trig.

[hemyd]

"Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote in message
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Call me a "militant anti high glucose" type...

Henry

[Julie Bove]

None Given wrote:
>> Yeah. I am getting sick of it. Seems like more and more people here
>> are militant low carbers. Well, that just doesn't work for *me*. And
>> while some would say that I am different, they also seem to find it
>> hard to believe that anyone else might just be like *me*!
>
> It's a reaction to the militant high carbers, IMO. For me part of low
> carbing
> restricts the choices of foods such that I tend to be lower calorie in
> part.
> Indeed, I need to watch the diet when it is high in peanut carbs.
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> then again I do other things like run.......................Trig.

Who here is a high carber?

[hemyd]

"hemyd" <myd!!!h...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message

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Actually, let me rephrase that - a "pacifist anti high glucose" type - just
happy to see reasonably low figures on my meter...

Henry ("I'm a Hessian with no Aggreshn - by Yosemite Sam in "Bugs Bunny")

[None Given]

On the planet?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetic_diet

[Maya Zuiderweg]

Julie Bove formuleerde op dinsdag :

Not high, not low. Balancing act between the taken insulin and the
carbs.
My BG being low dont say zip. I need balance, otherwise I cant move
around.
M.

[Budd Cochran]

"Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote in message

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Anybody not low carbing. . .

[%]

i eat what i eat

[Budd Cochran]

"Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$> wrote in
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I'm not insulin dependent, just Metformin and my younger brother is also a
T2 moderate carber, but his daily activity is such he takes no medications.
His last A1c was 5.5.

[Julie Bove]

"Budd Cochran" <mr_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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I am neither a high or low carber.

[%]

[hemyd]

"%" <per...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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It's important to eat what you eat where you eat it and when you eat it.

Henry.

[%]

that's how i see it and i see it how i see it when i look at it

[hemyd]

"%" <per...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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>>> i eat what i eat
>>
>> It's important to eat what you eat where you eat it and when you eat
>> it. Henry.
>
>
> that's how i see it and i see it how i see it when i look at it

Looking at it is often better than eating it. I find I can look at a cake or
even a pizza and it doesn't raise my bg at all!

Henry.

[%]

none of that is what i eat when i eat anyway and ,
i don't see any reason for seeing what i don't see

[hemyd]

"%" <per...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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I see!

Henry

[%]

hemyd wrote:
> "%" <per...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:EZqdnRkph_Ty3DHS...@giganews.com...
>> hemyd wrote:
>>> "%" <per...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:09-dneIgIdCJozHS...@giganews.com...
>>>>>> i eat what i eat
>>>>>
>>>>> It's important to eat what you eat where you eat it and when you
>>>>> eat it. Henry.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> that's how i see it and i see it how i see it when i look at it
>>>
>>> Looking at it is often better than eating it. I find I can look at a
>>> cake or even a pizza and it doesn't raise my bg at all!
>>>
>>> Henry.
>>
>>
>> none of that is what i eat when i eat anyway and , i don't see any
>> reason for seeing what i don't see
>
> I see!
>
> Henry

its all just a vision of course

[Bjørn Steensrud]

Unfortunately my right hand seems to develop a will of its own and moves
a piece of cake into my mouth - which raises my bg a bit ...