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On 5/5/2012 10:20 AM, GysdeJongh wrote:
> Causation is no correllation. Where are these obesese people, I have not
> seen them here.
>
> <http://www.diabetesincontrol.com>
>
> America's Waistline Expands and Costs Soar
> The additional medical spending due to obesity is double previous
> estimates and exceeds even those of smoking...
>
> U.S. hospitals are ripping out wall-mounted toilets and replacing them
> with floor models to better support obese patients. Cars are burning
> nearly a billion gallons of gasoline more a year than if passengers
> weighed what they did in 1960. The Federal Transit Administration wants
> buses to be tested for the impact of heavier riders on steering and
> braking.
>
> The nation's rising rate of obesity has been well-chronicled. But
> businesses, governments and individuals are only now coming to grips
> with the costs of those extra pounds, many of which are even greater
> than believed only a few years ago:
>
> Many of those costs have dollar signs in front of them, such as the
> higher health insurance premiums everyone pays to cover those extra
> medical costs. Other changes, often cost-neutral, are coming to the
> built environment in the form of wider seats in public places from
> sports stadiums to bus stops.
>
> The startling economic costs of obesity, often borne by the non-obese,
> could become the epidemic's second-hand smoke. Only when scientists
> discovered that nonsmokers were developing lung cancer and other
> diseases from breathing smoke-filled air did policymakers get serious
> about fighting the habit, in particular by establishing nonsmoking
> zones. The costs that smoking added to Medicaid also spurred action.
> Now, as economists put a price tag on sky-high body mass indexes (BMIs),
> policymakers as well as the private sector are mobilizing to find
> solutions to the obesity epidemic.
>
> The U.S. health care reform law of 2010 allows employers to charge obese
> workers 30% to 50% more for health insurance if they decline to
> participate in a qualified wellness program.
>
> Such measures do not sit well with all obese Americans. Advocacy groups
> formed to "end size discrimination" argue that it is possible to be
> healthy "at every size," taking issue with the findings that obesity
> necessarily comes with added medical costs.
>
> The percentage of Americans who are obese (with a BMI of 30 or higher)
> has tripled since 1960, to 34%, while the incidence of extreme or
> "morbid" obesity (BMI above 40) has risen sixfold, to 6%.
>
> The very obese lose one month of productive work per year, costing
> employers an average of $3,792 per very obese male worker and $3,037 per
> female. Total annual cost of presenteeism due to obesity: $30 billion.
Interesting observation on weight gain.  I just spent 4 months in 
mainland china, NO ONE is overweight there!, that is NO ONE, and not 
just Han, Meow, Koreans, Mongols, Tibetans, H'mung, Hainanese, Turks, 
and thousands of other ethnic minorities who inhabit China .  Expats 
from the US and Oz are heavier than Chinese, but all the Expats I talked 
to had lost weight while in China (except one TINY woman)

Chinese generally eat a high fat high sodium diet, and they eat BIG 
meals.  going to a Chinese dinner is like going to my grandmothers. 
Stop eating for even a second, and someone will think you are STARVING 
and put more food on your plate.

They also have a very efficient transportation system in the cities, and 
none of the Chinese I saw walked as much as New Yorkers.  They drive 
ELECTRIC bikes, so they didn't even peddle.

The ONE overweight Chinese woman I saw had just come from overseas.  I 
guess I should note that, many young boys are overweight because they 
are the only young male in the family.  When they start school, the 
weight comes right off.  You see fat 3 year old boys, but NOT fat 6 year 
old boys.


This is a mystery, it is INCREDIBLE to see MILLIONS of people, and NONE 
of them are overweight, not a few, NONE.

The only guess we can come up with is Fructose.  China has a huge cane 
sugar crop, so they produce no high-fructose corn syrup, and don't put 
it in anything.  That is a GUESS