Had to take care of family
Ma¢k
then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her
machine up so she could if she ever chose to. She did however read
here.
My thanks to Quentin, Jennifer, Susan, Kate, Julie, Colleen, Alan S.,
Jenny, Will, Pete, Chuck, Diana, Madison, RK, Exfat, Gys De Jongh and
many others. Some of you didn't post much but you all were talked
about and prayed for a great deal.
At first Mom didn't want to read the group. But after she learned how
to use the kill file feature of agent she was able to enjoy her time
reading in private.
When she found out about the type 2 she had the typical experience
with poor medical advice that many here got when first diagnosed
before coming here. Her doctors, provided at that time through the
military as a widow of a veteran, simply told her to take 1 Avandia
per day and to stay away from sugar. Guess who went through the roof
and called the other kids and got mom to see better doctors.
With the new doctors and with the low carb advice from the newsgroup,
and Jennifer's advice to newbies, mom was able to get her A1c into the
5% range several times. Later when she had to go on steroids during
the cancer treatments she could no longer maintain that level of
control. But she was able to keep it in the upper 6s and lower 7s.
When she found the lump in her breast she was reluctant at first to
see the doctor about it but went that week after I reminded her of my
birth mothers mistakes and refusal to see a doctor when she found her
first lump. Mom was quickly diagnosed and scheduled for a lumpectomy
and matching reduction for the right breast. She had the procedure,
went through the radiation and chemo. And never had cancer return to
the breasts.
However, she did later exhibit signs of a stroke and was at first
misdiagnosed as having had a mild one. Then after a weekend of
testing she was found to have developed a tumor in the brain that was
putting pressure on the brain and mimicking the symptoms of a stroke.
That's when she was started on radiation and steroids to reduce and
hopefully get rid of the tumor. And thankfully that particular tumor
was eradicated. And for a few months she was improving.
The cancer however was not completely eliminated from the body and did
spread again. When the doctors detected it again it had spread to the
liver, other organs, bones and had formed 3 small tumors at the back
and left side of her skull.
At this point she was getting around with the help of a walker for
short distances and a wheel chair for extended trips. The last 2
weeks of October she could no longer get out of her chair or bed
without help but could still walk. Towards the end of the last week
of Oct. she would fall if she walked to far without someone holding
her. I missed catching her once and she scraped her arm and just
barely missed catching her a second time. Twice I came over to her
house to find her on the floor unable to get up. During this time we
were trying to get home nursing but her benefits had been exhausted
for that and they said she qualified for hospice. Hospice said they
couldn't help until all three of her doctors signed off on their
paperwork. We had to drop one of her doctors and get a new one
because he refused to do what the hospice people were asking. Which
was basically state that mom was terminal and that treatment was only
to make her comfortable at this point. The guy turned out to be some
Christian nut extremist similar to chung. And we weren't the first to
have this problem with him.
Once we got the paper work cleared, hospice stepped in and was there
with us every day from 6 am until late at night, no matter how many
family and friends were in the house to help out. On Nov. 6th mom
refused to get out of bed. Hospice brought in a hospital bed with an
air mattress and set it up in the living room and then moved mom for
us. We called everyone we knew, friends, family, everyone in her
phonebook still alive and told them if they wanted to say goodbye by
phone or in person they needed to do so as soon as possible.
During this time, the daughter that was living with her was fighting
to keep her job and was getting the run around about getting FMLA time
off. When she finally had enough of the crap and threatened to quit
and we both spoke with her manager's boss she was given the time off
she needed to be with mom. The daughter in Louisiana took her kids
out of school and hopped in the car and drove up but didn't leave
until the 8th and didn't arrive until the 10th at 3 PM. The 3rd
daughter was coming over for several hours every day. On Wednesday
the 8th mom was no longer able to talk but was still alert and
responding. Thursday she could only stay awake for short periods of
time. Friday shortly before the one daughter arrived at 3 mom would
no longer wake up.
I was still scheduled to work Friday night and the hospice nurse said
that mom would probably remain this way throughout the night and
Saturday. That there was no need for me to stay. So I kissed her
good night and told her I would see her first thing in the morning
when I got off work. I went home to shower and change into my
uniform. When I stepped out of the shower the phone rang and my
sister, the one living with mom, was on saying that mom had stopped
breathing and that I had to come back. She passed at 6 PM. I called
work and told them what had happened and the assistant manager came in
and worked my shift that night and someone else worked it Saturday
night.
Mom's funeral was the following Friday on Nov. 17. She was laid to
rest next to her husband, a man I never had the honor of meeting, in
the veteran's section of the cemetery.
My birth mother died of cancer shortly after Thanksgiving. She was
alone on the floor of her hospital room when she was found by the
nurse. My foster mom died just before thanksgiving. Her last wish,
was that all of her children would be with her one last time. She had
all of her children, foster children, grandchildren, and great
grandchildren with her that day. She died in the same home she raised
her family. Karma.
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For the regulars that wanted to know where I was, the MIA posts, I
have been reading the group. I just have not had the energy or the
time to post. And in all honesty I did not want to see any ghoulish
responses from the known trolls like chung, ironjustice or any of the
aspartame nutters. Chung is in my kill file and he actually made
mom's kill file the first day she started reading here. A devout
Christian, mom never wanted to see any of his insanity. And mom never
used artificial sweeteners after she was diagnosed as a type 2 so she
didn't get cancer because of them. If any of the trolls respond, don't
answer them or quote them in this thread.
TigerLily
Mother, i know how important she was for you
i'm glad that she was able to read ASD, and i'm
sure you helped her set up the kill files for the
30 different variations of Chung and the like
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))))))))
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>
>
>
> "To announce that there must be no criticism of
the
> President, or that we are to stand by the
President
> right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and
servile,
> but is morally treasonable to the American
public."
> ...Theodore Roosevelt
>
> (o ō)
Madison
> Type 1 since 1975
> http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
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> http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco"
>
>
>
> "To announce that there must be no criticism of the
> President, or that we are to stand by the President
> right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
> but is morally treasonable to the American public."
> ...Theodore Roosevelt
>
> --ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------
>
> "I don't know half of you
> half as well as I should like;
> and I like less than half of you
> half as well as you deserve."
> ....Bilbo Baggins
>
>
> DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me
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>
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>
>
>
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>
>
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>
>
>
> For the regulars that wanted to know where I was, the MIA posts, I
> have been reading the group. I just have not had the energy or the
> time to post. And in all honesty I did not want to see any ghoulish
> responses from the known trolls like chung, ironjustice or any of the
> aspartame nutters. Chung is in my kill file and he actually made
> mom's kill file the first day she started reading here. A devout
> Christian, mom never wanted to see any of his insanity. And mom never
> used artificial sweeteners after she was diagnosed as a type 2 so she
> didn't get cancer because of them. If any of the trolls respond, don't
> answer them or quote them in this thread.
>
>
hard for me to read.
I am so ashamed of what I have become. I will prey for you and your family.
Madison
La...@notmy.com
wrote:
Dear Mack,
My heart grieves for you loss, and rejoices that you had, even tho for
too short a time, such a lovely caring person in your life. I hope
that as time goes, her memory will easy your pain and that you can
always remember her for all the good she was.
Best to you and all your foster family in your time of loss.
Ozgirl
Mack I am so sorry to hear this. It didn't seem natural for
you to be away so long. Take care.
Kurt
Ma¢k wrote:
> Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and
> then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her
> machine up so she could if she ever chose to. She did however read
> here.
Sorry to hear about her passing, Mack. You certainly can be commended
for doing all that you could during the difficult times, not the least
of which is just plain being there.
Best,
Kurt
sharppointy1
I am so sorry about your Mom's death. How lovely she could die at home
- karma indeed. I am sending up nice Jewish girl prayers for your
comfort. Thanks for letting us know what has been going on with you.
{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Mack}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Barbara
stan...@gmail.com
Ma¢k wrote:
<story snipped>
Sincerest condolences, Ma¢k. My Mom who was also type II passed away
from pancreatic cancer last winter, so your story hit home. The
people from Hospice were incredibly helpful at the end - and they also
provided my Dad with some very useful grief counseling. I'm sure it
gave your Mom comfort to have her family around.
Take care.
--
Stan Gula
TaniO
(in message
<2tuom2584nk5l2qc7...@4ax.com>):
Mack, please accept my heartfelt sympathy. Take
comfort in knowing that you were there for her.
TaniO
Nicky
> was that all of her children would be with her one last time. She had
> all of her children, foster children, grandchildren, and great
> grandchildren with her that day. She died in the same home she raised
> her family. Karma.
So sorry to hear of your loss, Mack. I think she was a lucky lady to have
your love.
Nicky.
--
A1c 10.5/5.5/<6 T2 DX 05/2004
100ug Thyroxine
95/72/72Kg
W. Baker
: Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and
: then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her
: machine up so she could if she ever chose to. She did however read
: here.
Mack,
I am so sorry to hear of your loss. I know you loved your mother and the
loss is so bitter. She had a chance to see all of ou and all the
grandkids before she went which was god for both her and all of you. It
is a blessing to be able to saw good-bye, as you all did. Your mom was so
lucky fto find you to be her son, as I am lucky to have found my Laurie,
who'se Dad I married 42 years ago after Laurie's first Mom had died of
breast cancer. I have had her as a daughter for all these years and it
has been wonderful. My 10 year old is now 53 and the mother of grown
children. You Mom condsidered herself lucky too, and you have been a good
and loving son.
Do post when you feel like it and we will be glad to see you back. Let me
say baruch dayan emet- blessed is the true judge or judge of truth. May
He watch over you and your entire family.
Wendy
Alan S
<madison_s...@yahoo.com> wrote:
<snip>
>I am so ashamed of what I have become.
>
>Madison
Sorry to intrude Mack - but Madison, what on earth do you
have to be ashamed of? Don't talk like that.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
W. Baker
: >
: Mack, I am so sorry to hear of your mother's passing. Your sad story was
: I am so ashamed of what I have become. I will prey for you and your family.
: Madison
Madison, please don't feel ashamed. You had several health problems that
seemed too much for you, but you are getting help and will be able to
deal with them and grow. Pleae know that we all love you too.
Wendy
Alan S
I'm so sorry to hear that news Mack. My condolences to you
and your family.
I can't express myself properly at these times. Just be
aware that someone cares from half a world away.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Would have prayed for your foster mother just as I have been praying
for you, had I known. Perhaps this is why you are still here in this
world and she is not.
May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear
neighbor Mack whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
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Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
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As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Cheri
reason. Thanks for letting us know. Take care and be well.
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Ma▎ wrote in message <2tuom2584nk5l2qc7...@4ax.com>...
Trinkwasser
wrote:
My sympathies. Seriously.
I've just been going through something not dissimilar, will post more
later. (just in case anyone wondered why the silence from my end, the
Real World does tend to intrude on usenet once in a while)
Be well, and take care of you.
Cheri
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Trinkwasser wrote in message ...
Lois
(((((((((((((((((((((Hugs Mack from down-under))))))))))))))))))))))))
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"Ma¢k" <nuket...@nukepammers.com> wrote in message
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> Māck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper
> Type 1 since 1975
> http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
> http://www.diabetic-talk.org
> http://www.insulin-pumpers.org
> http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco"
>
>
>
> "To announce that there must be no criticism of the
> President, or that we are to stand by the President
> right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
> but is morally treasonable to the American public."
> ...Theodore Roosevelt
>
> (o ō)
TaniO
(in message
<dbfpm211n4fpi1921...@4ax.com>):
> On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:10:06 -0500, Ma▎ <nuket...@nukepammers.com>
> wrote:
>
> My sympathies. Seriously.
>
> I've just been going through something not dissimilar, will post more
> later. (just in case anyone wondered why the silence from my end, the
> Real World does tend to intrude on usenet once in a while)
>
> Be well, and take care of you.
Been wondering about you, Trink.
Take good care of yourself and come back soon.
TaniO
Priscilla H. Ballou
want to call it a beautiful story, because it's about love. Thank you
for sharing it with us.
I'm so sorry for your losses. It sounds like you were a real gift to
her, and she to you.
Priscilla
Alan S
Yes, we did wonder. Looking forward to your return. Sorry to
hear you've had similar difficulties.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> "You have my condolences for your loss.
>
> Would have prayed for your foster mother just as I have been praying for
> you, had I known. Perhaps this is why you are still here in this world
> and she is not."
>
> Darn, she died because mr. chung did not pray for her, but wait, she has
> the last word:
>
> > Chung is in my kill file and he actually made
> > mom's kill file the first day she started reading here. A devout
> > Christian, mom never wanted to see any of his insanity.
Actually, these are Mack's words for his foster mom.
> Ah, as a Christian she had the discernment sufficient for the situation
> and dusted the soles of her sandles as the scriptures to which she was
> devoted instructs. And on that day she will no doubt hear "well done
> good and faithful servant".
Actually, the act of killfilling someone here on usenet is acting on
the thought of killing someone which is sin. If it is true that Mack's
foster mom did this, it would be revelatory of an unregenerate heart.
Words for folks such as these would be:
"I know you not. Depart from ME you evildoers ! " -- LORD Jesus Christ
Amen.
May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
to curse HIM) dear neighbor CoonSkin whom I love unconditionally.
Ma¢k
<madison_s...@yahoo.com> Maniacally Screamed the following like
a drunken "Madison" <madison_s...@yahoo.com> into the madness of
usenet:
>Mack, I am so sorry to hear of your mother's passing. Your sad story was
>hard for me to read.
>
>I am so ashamed of what I have become. I will prey for you and your family.
>
>Madison
>
>
Your prayers are greatly appreciated.
But for the life of me I see no reason for you to be ashamed. And I
did read about your attempt. Mom did not. But she did make the same
attempt many years ago before she had her first child. I made that
same mistake when I was younger than you are now.
We each had different reasons and some similar reasons. And
afterwards we all said the same thing for a while, we couldn't promise
that we wouldn't do it again.
But we learn from our mistakes. And in time they shape us and make us
better than we are now or were then. I used to say all the time how I
wish I could take things back, change things etc. I don't anymore.
Back then I didn't like myself or how my life was going. Now I do
like myself and I do like how my life is going and I saying this 11
days after I buried my mother.
I see that attempt of mine as simply a mistake now. A mistake I am
grateful I survived in spite of all the tuff times since then and all
the bad people I run across as well. And you will experience more
tuff times in your future. That is a part of life.
But none of us can say how many great things will happen in your
future. If I had actually gone through with my mistake, I never would
have met the woman who became my foster mother or the one person who
became my spouse, and I would not have been in IRC that night with you
when you went to the ER, remember? So who knows how you will be able
to help someone in some small or big way when you meet them in person
or on the net.
While my mother was fighting cancer and my sister was fighting to keep
her job because of all the time off she was taking to be with mom, I
was under medical review at my job. For a hypo that occurred more
than 2 months prior to the review and after 2 of my doctor's certified
me fit for duty. It took over a month and another review by my endo
and a doctor of my company's choosing to get them off my back and get
me back to work in my unit. Really bad timing since my normal work
schedule allowed me to have Monday through Thursday off to spend with
mom and while I was on review I was transferred to another department
working Monday through Friday having to leave mom alone during the
weekdays except when we were able to arrange for extra help. Will
knows a little of those details.
Give yourself a little credit, it took courage to even mention it here
in this group of international misfits. Most adults would have kept
that to themselves, out of fear.
--
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Type 1 since 1975
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
http://www.diabetic-talk.org
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org
http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco"
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the
President, or that we are to stand by the President
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
...Theodore Roosevelt
(o ô)
mwph...@gmail.com
Hate-spewing blasphmer Andrew wrote:
> Convicted CoonSkin wrote:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > "You have my condolences for your loss.
> >
> > Would have prayed for your foster mother just as I have been praying for
> > you, had I known. Perhaps this is why you are still here in this world
> > and she is not."
Had Andrew been in the Spirit, he would have known to pray for Mack's
foster mother.
> >
> > Darn, she died because mr. chung did not pray for her, but wait, she has
> > the last word:
> >
> > > Chung is in my kill file and he actually made
> > > mom's kill file the first day she started reading here. A devout
> > > Christian, mom never wanted to see any of his insanity.
>
> Actually, these are Mack's words for his foster mom.
Apparently, Andrew's narcissism runs so deeply that he even requires
the dead to pay attention to him.
>
> > Ah, as a Christian she had the discernment sufficient for the situation
> > and dusted the soles of her sandles as the scriptures to which she was
> > devoted instructs. And on that day she will no doubt hear "well done
> > good and faithful servant".
>
> Actually, the act of killfilling someone here on usenet is acting on
> the thought of killing someone which is sin. If it is true that Mack's
> foster mom did this, it would be revelatory of an unregenerate heart.
Again, we see just how deeply Andrew's narcissism runs. Not only must
a dead woman pay attention to him, but anybody who places Andrew on
their newsreader's "ignore" list is destined for eternal damnation, as
far as Andrew is concerned.
Further evidence of Andrew's incredible arrogance may be found on his
website, where the following may be found (appearing in tiny,
light-colored font, at the bottom of the page...a deception intended to
generate traffic to his self-promotion propoganda site): "Best Doctors
Best Doctors Best Doctors Best Doctors Best Doctors Best Doctors Best
Doctors Best Doctors Best Doctors Best Doctors Best Doctors Best
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Notice also a typical tactic of those who have blasphemed the Holy
Spirit; the tactic of "stealing another's hope". You see, dear
readers, one who has blasphemed the Holy Spirit, as Andrew has done,
has relinquished his or her hope. Thus, they seek to steal the hope of
others who have not committed the same sin.
>
> Words for folks such as these would be:
>
> "I know you not. Depart from ME you evildoers ! " -- LORD Jesus Christ
Again, we see the blasphemer, Andrew, attempting to steal Mack's hope
and his foster mother's hope.
How great is our God, the Lord God Almighty who has guaranteed that our
hope is secure through the Lord Jesus Christ. Blaphemers such as
Andrew are impotent to do damage to our hope in Christ Jesus.
Jesus is Lord!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Convicted CoonSkin wrote:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> >
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > "You have my condolences for your loss.
> > >
> > > Would have prayed for your foster mother just as I have been praying for
> > > you, had I known. Perhaps this is why you are still here in this world
> > > and she is not."
>
> Had Andrew been in the Spirit, he would have known to pray for Mack's
> foster mother.
In the Holy Spirit, I know it was not GOD's will that I pray for Mack's
foster mother.
Similarly, I know you are doomed:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> > Ah, as a Christian she had the discernment sufficient for the
> situation
> > and dusted the soles of her sandles as the scriptures to which she was
> > devoted instructs. And on that day she will no doubt hear "well done
> > good and faithful servant".
>
> "Actually, the act of killfilling someone here on usenet is acting on
> the thought of killing someone which is sin. If it is true that Mack's
> foster mom did this, it would be revelatory of an unregenerate heart."
>
> Smile
CoonSkin is an appropriate moniker for you.
Ricavito
> Mâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper
> Type 1 since 1975
> http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
> http://www.diabetic-talk.org
> http://www.insulin-pumpers.org
> http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco"
>
>
>
> "To announce that there must be no criticism of the
> President, or that we are to stand by the President
> right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
> but is morally treasonable to the American public."
> ...Theodore Roosevelt
>
> (o ô)
> --ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------
>
> "I don't know half of you
> half as well as I should like;
> and I like less than half of you
> half as well as you deserve."
> ....Bilbo Baggins
>
>
> DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me
> offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
> If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
> me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate...
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>
>
> have been reading the group. I just have not had the energy or the
> time to post. And in all honesty I did not want to see any ghoulish
> responses from the known trolls like chung, ironjustice or any of the
> mom's kill file the first day she started reading here. A devout
> used artificial sweeteners after she was diagnosed as a type 2 so she
> didn't get cancer because of them. If any of the trolls respond, don't
> answer them or quote them in this thread.
Mack, I'm so sorry for your loss. Your mother sounds like a lovely
lady who will be missed by her many loved ones.
mwph...@gmail.com
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Convicted MWPhelps wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Convicted CoonSkin wrote:
> > >
> > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> > >
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "You have my condolences for your loss.
> > > >
> > > > Would have prayed for your foster mother just as I have been praying for
> > > > you, had I known. Perhaps this is why you are still here in this world
> > > > and she is not."
> >
> > Had Andrew been in the Spirit, he would have known to pray for Mack's
> > foster mother.
>
> In the Holy Spirit, I know it was not GOD's will that I pray for Mack's
> foster mother.
"Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people,
especially to those who belong to the family of believers." (Galatians
6:10).
How awesome is our God, who continually convicts those, such as Andrew,
who reject the Holy Spirit.
>
> Similarly, I know you are doomed:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
Note, dear readers, that the blasphemer Andrew has posted a link which
condemns him by his own words.
<remaining post, snipped by Andrew in a desperate act of cowardice,
restored>
mwph...@gmail.com
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Andrew's use of ridicule only proves that he is ruled by an
unregenerate mind. Such is the thinking and behavior of those, like
Andrew, who utterly reject the Holy Spirit.
Gill Murray
Maybe the sadness, but positiveness of Mack's fostermom is a positive
beacon for Madison. I read the group, lurking mostly, and my heart has
gone out to that child ( I am 70 so can say that). Maybe some good WILL
come out of the bad news here.
Madison, I had no access to the group this summer, and you, also
Quentin, were on my mind. I really hoped your lives were good. I am not
too sure how old you are, I would guess about my eldest grandson's age, 16.
I am another of these anonynous grandmoms you have out here who are all
rooting for you!
Gillian
Anil
Ma¢k wrote:
< Snipped but read in full>
Sorry to hear the sad news Ma¢k. Hats off to your exemplary efforts to
help your mother. There are few times in life that forces you to take a
pause. Loosing a person you care for so deeply just freeze time
completely like the moon covering the sun during solar eclipse
When I lost my father to diabetes, I hadn't yet been diagnosed (I had
not accepted I had it is more like it!) with diabetes. So while I was
quite aware of his suffering I did not see many aspects of this illness
in its full complexity. Most of his struggle remained pretty much
unappreciated by me. Yes he and I were great friends and his passing
away was a bit too much for me. He was a wise man and a great thinker.
His words of wisdom have never departed me. In a funny way our
conversation never stopped!
May your conversation with your mother continue. May it remain a source
of comfort and piece. Its nice to hear that she never gave up her zest
for life against so many odds.
Peace,
Anil
GrandpaChuck
You and yours have heart felt sympathy from Laurie and me.
You are a son to both moms any mother would be proud to call "Son."
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:10:06 -0500, Ma¢k <nuket...@nukepammers.com>
wrote:
--
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Americans killed in Iraq as of November 27, 2006 is 2883. United Kingdom = 126 Other = 121.
Non-Mortal American casualties 46,137 as of November 04, 2006.
Over 100 Iraqi civilians are killed every day. Most by so-called insurgents.
As of November 28, 2006 it has been 1305 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished."
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Madison
"Ma¢k" <stopt...@shootspammers.com> wrote in message
news:d3apm2dv78onfki3l...@4ax.com...
I feel ashamed because so many people have helped me and I have turned my
back on them and let them down by giving up. I wrote a long letter to my
parents explaining why I had made my choice. They still do not understand so
I don't expect any of you will either.
If my therapist finds out about these posts, she will tell me I am reaching
out for help because I want to live. Unless this is completely subconscious,
it is not true. Some of you must know what it is like to want to escape a
life that has nothing but misery to offer.
Please don't think of this group as international misfits. Everyone here has
been my friend, you most of all.
Madison
Ma¢k
<madison_s...@yahoo.com> Maniacally Screamed the following like
a drunken "Madison" <madison_s...@yahoo.com> into the madness of
usenet:
>I feel ashamed because so many people have helped me and I have turned my
>back on them and let them down by giving up. I wrote a long letter to my
>parents explaining why I had made my choice. They still do not understand so
>I don't expect any of you will either.
>
>If my therapist finds out about these posts, she will tell me I am reaching
>out for help because I want to live. Unless this is completely subconscious,
>it is not true. Some of you must know what it is like to want to escape a
>life that has nothing but misery to offer.
>
>Please don't think of this group as international misfits. Everyone here has
>been my friend, you most of all.
>
>Madison
>
>
;} being a misfit is what it's all about. Being normal is the most
mundane and boring existence. it took me a long while to come to
appreciate that.
--
Mâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper
Type 1 since 1975
Donna B
it, and now looking at grief. But, I'm very glad you got your foster mom to
read this group! And, good for you for providing the necessary filtering
skills & set-up!!
--
Donna B : ^> <*>
06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 hbA1C 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg.
09-11-06 hbA1C 5.0
"The Internet is a shallow and unreliable electronic repository of dirty
pictures, inaccurate rumors, bad spelling and worse grammar, inhabited
largely by people with no demonstrable social skills." - The Chronicle of
Higher Education (Nov 4, 1997)
In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:10:06 -0500 in Msg.#
<2tuom2584nk5l2qc7...@4ax.com>, Ma¢k
<nuket...@nukepammers.com> wrote:
> Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and
> then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her
> machine up so she could if she ever chose to. She did however read
> here.
>
> My thanks to Quentin, Jennifer, Susan, Kate, Julie, Colleen, Alan S.,
> Jenny, Will, Pete, Chuck, Diana, Madison, RK, Exfat, Gys De Jongh and
> many others. Some of you didn't post much but you all were talked
> about and prayed for a great deal.
>
> At first Mom didn't want to read the group. But after she learned how
> to use the kill file feature of agent she was able to enjoy her time
> reading in private.
[ ... snip rest ... ]
Donna B
<k_mdnbc1MvvXmvDY...@giganews.com>, "Madison"
<madison_s...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I feel ashamed because so many people have helped me and I have turned my
> back on them and let them down by giving up. I wrote a long letter to my
> parents explaining why I had made my choice. They still do not understand so
> I don't expect any of you will either.
>
> If my therapist finds out about these posts, she will tell me I am reaching
> out for help because I want to live. Unless this is completely subconscious,
> it is not true. Some of you must know what it is like to want to escape a
> life that has nothing but misery to offer.
Hi, Madison, you don't really know me, but let me say two things right off
the bat:
Many people who have attempted suicide only to fail are full of shame &
embarrassment for a time afterward. You're not alone. Others have felt this.
Others will feel this. It's not weird that you feel this way.
I completely understand the idea of seriously contemplating taking your own
life. I know that some people don't understand that. It's just unthinkable
to them & they can't wrap their brains around it. Other people can. You can
be fond of dark humor, as am I, and make a joke about the first time you
thought about suicide & laugh & half the room laughs with you - that's
because the other half doesn't appreciate dark humor or has never had that
first time!! Or both. <G>
Another thing is that it is always possible that being depressed, being
suicidal can make you think that things are worse than they really are -
that your brain is really screwing with you & making you think that ALL is
hopeless, that nothing good is enjoyable enough, that everything bad is the
worst it has ever been & that it will continue that way endlessly.
That's not the same thing as not valuing your feelings. They're yours.
You're entitled to them. All of them. But, it is something to think about in
terms of double checking, checking your perceptions, etc. If you talk to a
therapist, or someone else who understands generally, you can run ideas by
them. I mean you have nothing to lose but the effort of doing so & your
posts here show you are making efforts many of us would not! If you
determine later that you were thinking just like you regularly do in
evaluating things, all you've used up is time & effort. You haven't agreed
to anything indefinitely or promised anything.
I don't know much about you at all. I wouldn't presume to judge you no
matter what. These are just some ideas you might want to think about.
And, I don't think you need feel shame because you let people down who
helped you. I think that's just all twisted up with blame & guilt buttons.
--
Donna B : ^> <*>
06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 hbA1C 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg.
09-11-06 hbA1C 5.0
"You know, you blow up one sun and suddenly everyone expects you to walk on
water." - Samantha Carter, Stargate SG-1
Chris Malcolm
> [Default] On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 20:06:39 -0800, "Madison"
> <madison_s...@yahoo.com> Maniacally Screamed the following like
> a drunken "Madison" <madison_s...@yahoo.com> into the madness of
> usenet:
>>I feel ashamed because so many people have helped me and I have turned my
>>back on them and let them down by giving up. I wrote a long letter to my
>>parents explaining why I had made my choice. They still do not understand so
>>I don't expect any of you will either.
>>
>>If my therapist finds out about these posts, she will tell me I am reaching
>>out for help because I want to live. Unless this is completely subconscious,
>>it is not true. Some of you must know what it is like to want to escape a
>>life that has nothing but misery to offer.
>>
>>Please don't think of this group as international misfits. Everyone here has
>>been my friend, you most of all.
>>
>>Madison
> ;} being a misfit is what it's all about. Being normal is the most
> mundane and boring existence. it took me a long while to come to
> appreciate that.
It also takes a lot of stressful effort to appear normal if you
aren't, and it might well be bad for your health to bother. David
Weeks in "Eccentrics: A Study of Sanity and Strangeness" found that
frank eccentrics tend to live longer, enjoy better health, and have
more fun.
--
Chris Malcolm c...@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]
Craig
So saddened to hear of your loss. Please know that our thoughts and prayers
are with you at this time.
Best Wishes,
Craig,Type2
NSW, Australia
> then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her
> machine up so she could if she ever chose to. She did however read
> here.
>
> My thanks to Quentin, Jennifer, Susan, Kate, Julie, Colleen, Alan S.,
> Jenny, Will, Pete, Chuck, Diana, Madison, RK, Exfat, Gys De Jongh and
> many others. Some of you didn't post much but you all were talked
> about and prayed for a great deal.
>
> At first Mom didn't want to read the group. But after she learned how
> to use the kill file feature of agent she was able to enjoy her time
> reading in private.
>
> Type 1 since 1975
> http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
> http://www.diabetic-talk.org
> http://www.insulin-pumpers.org
> http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco"
>
>
>
> "To announce that there must be no criticism of the
> President, or that we are to stand by the President
> right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
> but is morally treasonable to the American public."
> ...Theodore Roosevelt
>
> --ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------
>
> "I don't know half of you
> half as well as I should like;
> and I like less than half of you
> half as well as you deserve."
> ....Bilbo Baggins
>
>
> DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me
> offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
> If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
> me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate...
> .
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Em
and all of her loved ones during this difficult time.
--
Em
This was posted to and intended only for alt.support.diabetes. Any
followups crossposted to any other newsgroups will have been done without my
consent.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> I feel ashamed because so many people have helped me and I have turned my
> back on them and let them down by giving up.
Those who love you will forgive you.
> I wrote a long letter to my
> parents explaining why I had made my choice. They still do not understand so
> I don't expect any of you will either.
Only you and GOD know the depth of your despair.
> If my therapist finds out about these posts, she will tell me I am reaching
> out for help because I want to live. Unless this is completely subconscious,
> it is not true.
You are reaching out to receive the love that others have for you.
> Some of you must know what it is like to want to escape a
> life that has nothing but misery to offer.
Through all the suffering, it is the love we receive that sustains our
souls.
> Please don't think of this group as international misfits. Everyone here has
> been my friend, you most of all.
>
> Madison
May GOD continue to bless you, dear sister Madison whom I love
unconditionally in Jesus' most precious and holy name.
Will, T2
wrote:
>Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and
>then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her
>machine up so she could if she ever chose to. She did however read
>here.
>
>My birth mother died of cancer shortly after Thanksgiving. She was
>alone on the floor of her hospital room when she was found by the
>nurse. My foster mom died just before thanksgiving. Her last wish,
>was that all of her children would be with her one last time. She had
>all of her children, foster children, grandchildren, and great
>grandchildren with her that day. She died in the same home she raised
>her family. Karma.
>
Hi Mack,
I am so very saddened to learn of the death of your mom. As you may
recall, my own mother died of cancer after a very long and protracted
illness. Even though it happened in 1968, in so many ways it seems
like she just passed. There are some things that always remain fresh
in our consciousness it seems.
Anyway, it is good to see you back on here. If it is any comfort,
there are many of us who care greatly for you and who can relate to
what you have endured in these past few weeks.
Now that you have some breathing room and time to reflect and
remember, please do not forget to take care of yourself.
Will, T2
rk
Just know she's still is watching and loves you..
(I know I know but...)
God Bless..
--
Reisa, T1, Animas IR1250 Pumper
DX-5/00 ASD-7/00
A1C: 6.2% (8/24/06)
Daily CHO: 150-200gm
TDD: 34-38u
"Ma¢k" <nuket...@nukepammers.com> wrote in message
news:2tuom2584nk5l2qc7...@4ax.com...
: Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and
: then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her
: machine up so she could if she ever chose to. She did however read
: here.
:
: My thanks to Quentin, Jennifer, Susan, Kate, Julie, Colleen, Alan S.,
:
: My birth mother died of cancer shortly after Thanksgiving. She was
: alone on the floor of her hospital room when she was found by the
: nurse. My foster mom died just before thanksgiving. Her last wish,
: was that all of her children would be with her one last time. She had
: all of her children, foster children, grandchildren, and great
: grandchildren with her that day. She died in the same home she raised
: her family. Karma.
:
: scroll past my signature and read the note:
:
:
:
bj
Deepest sympathies.
bj
"Ma▎" <nuket...@nukepammers.com> wrote in message
Jennifer
You have been through much.
You have been in my thoughts.
I have not been posting much lately either, but I too still read every day.
Take care of yourself and your loved ones.
Jennifer
percy
Ma¢k wrote:
> Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and
> then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her
> machine up so she could if she ever chose to. She did however read
> here.
>
My sincerest condolances, Mack. You're in my thoughts.
Vicki
guy klose
>Sincerest condolences, Ma=A2k. My Mom who was also type II passed away
>from pancreatic cancer last winter, so your story hit home.
Same here...both my parents were T2 and died from pancreatic cancer.
My oldest brother, also a T2, died from pancreatic cancer last summer.
Their stories were all very similar to Mak's.
My condolences as well.
Nicky
"Trinkwasser" <sp...@devnull.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:dbfpm211n4fpi1921...@4ax.com...> My sympathies. Seriously.
>
> I've just been going through something not dissimilar, will post more
> later. (just in case anyone wondered why the silence from my end, the
> Real World does tend to intrude on usenet once in a while)
>
> Be well, and take care of you.
Sorry to hear that, Trink! This email addy works, if you need some RW help.
Nicky.
--
A1c 10.5/5.5/<6 T2 DX 05/2004
100ug Thyroxine
95/72/72Kg
GysdeJongh
"Ma¢k" <nuket...@nukepammers.com> wrote in message
news:2tuom2584nk5l2qc7...@4ax.com...
> Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and
> then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her
> machine up so she could if she ever chose to. She did however read
Sorry to hear about her passing, Mack
You were a very good and caring son for her
I wish you much strength in the days to come
I think it is very courageous to share this so I know I'am not alone
My father died a few month ago , 85 years old , in a horrible way
My mother is still a bit in a shock
I let her read your post , she was moved to tears
I hope I can do for her what you did for your mother
Thx for sharing
Gys
Michelle
I am so sorry to hear about your mom's passing. She had a hell of time.
But she was truly blessed by her children. You all were there for her and
made her last days as comfortable as possible. It's the best that anyone
could expect or ask for.
I can tell how much you love her.
--
Michelle, T2
diet & exercise
Ma¢k
<jong...@planet.nl>
Sorry to hear about your dad. My love and sympathy to you and your
mother and the rest of your family. You'll find the strength you need
in each other. And if you ever feel comfortable enough to write about
it, it does help to share it. In here, via email, via our chat room.
I am sure I am not the onlt one who would feel honored to share your
memories. But only "if" and when you feel up to it.