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On Tue, 08 May 2012 10:35:30 -0400
tedrosenberg <theodore.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 5/7/2012 12:43 PM, Trawley Trash wrote:
> > On Sun, 06 May 2012 21:37:23 -0400
> > tedrosenberg<theodore.rosenb...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >
> >> I, for one don't see any connection between the southern style
> >> foods and either Thai or Vietnamese.
> >
> >    Northern Chinese styles do contain wheat, and I must
> >    avoid them.  In the south there is rice instead of wheat. No milk
> >    except coconut or boiled milk. Thai food is also heavy on spices.
> 
> Actually lots of milk, you can't go a block without an ad for some
> milk drink.  Still not in a class by US standards.  My daughter hates
> the ultrapasturised stuff, so she gets her delivered every morning by
> a neighbor with a cow.

  Now you have just confirmed what I wrote.  Milk is either coconut
  milk or boiled (ultrapasurized).

  You let your daughter drink raw milk?  That's criminal.  Tuberculosis from
  raw milk wiped out my mother's family.  Right here in the USA.

  Most people shouldn't drink milk; but if they do, it should be boiled.

> "Heavy on spices" you SURE don't get around much SOME areas are heavy
> on spices, some areas in the far south use almost no spices in
> cooking.

  And some southern areas are renown for heavy spice much like Thai
  food.  Northern food is not as spicy.

> >    Sweet potato noodles are a Korean staple.
> 
> Yes, but Korea, and most Koreans are in the far Northeast

  I know that.  What is your point?
 
> >    And I left rice out of my list of alternative ingredients for
> > noodles.
> >
> No argument that "glass noodles" are rice, they seem to be mainly 
> Singaporean

  Glass noodles are usually mung bean noodles or sweet potato
  noodles.  Rice noodles are called "rice noodles", and they are
  found in all cultures:  except American.  They are opaque:  not
  translucent like glass noodles.
 
  And I also left off buckwheat noodles.  If you want those, you
  have to go to Tokyo.  The ones they export to the US all have
  wheat in them.
 
> >    Have you never seen pancakes with onions and no sugar (or syrup)?
> >
> sure
> >    I do not have to go to China to read up on these things, or to
> > take classes in Chinese cooking.  Of course that was forty years
> > ago.
> >
> >    China is changing rapidly, and I can see those changes on the
> > shelves of our Asian supermarkets.  More and more western style
> > snack foods and sugar.  They are copying our mistakes, and I do not
> > doubt that diabetes is surging there.
> >
> You seem to have some ideas from the Western edge of Guangdong, near 
> Vietnam, and from the areas near Korea

  I need food that has no wheat and no milk, and I look all over
  the world for ideas.
 
> You also seem to think that US cooking schools have ANYTHING to do
> with how people in China actually eat today.  I have a friend who has
> a cooking school.  Of course, except for an occasional visit, she
> hasen't been in China in 50 years.  Also, she teaches what westerners
> might like, NOT what Yunan of Heinan might like.

  It wasn't a cooking school.  She was a sweet Chinese lady whose
  daughter had similar allergies to mine.  Lots of experience from
  living in China.  She taught a basic cooking class for adults.
 
> You haven't noticed that your Asian supermarkets are Korean, NOT 
> Chinese.  The largest chain's name (ine Chinese) translates to
> "Korean Dragon Foods"

  You haven't noticed that whether they call themselves Korean, or
  Vietnamese, or Asian, they all carry similar items.  They must
  buy from the same distributors.

> You also think you know more about something on the other side of the 
> earth by "reading about it" than people who have been there

  I can learn more by listening to people who grew up there
  than from Americans who visit and claim they know everything.
  Especially when an American opens with the suggestion that southern
  Chinese eat fried rats.