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Julie Bove  
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 More options Nov 12 2012, 11:20 pm
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From: "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:21:13 -0800
Local: Mon, Nov 12 2012 11:21 pm
Subject: Visiit to Endo.
Angela lost 6 pounds since she was last at the Dr. and that was just a few
weeks ago.  My dad and I thought she looked thinner but she did go rather
bad with her diet, eating some candy, caramel corn, two cinnamon rolls and a
milkshake.  Not all at once of course but over the course of a couple of
weeks.  Granted on the day that she had the milkshake, she didn't have much
else to eat because of a severe sore throat.  But we were both expecting her
weight to be up and it wasn't!

My weight is down 1 pound.  But the Dr. found an enlarged thyroid.  I think
it has been enlarged for many years but I think it is much more enlarged
now.  It really hurt when he pressed on it and it still hurts.  Could
explain why my eyes are so red, swollen and irritated.  Could also explain
my hunger or should I say lack of issues.  The bowel problems.  The
coldness.  And my extreme sleepiness.  All I want to do of late is sleep, no
matter how much sleep I have gotten.

We have to wait to get the labs back,.

He also wants us both to see the dietician.  Why?  I don't know except that
I think he just got one into his office so he wouldn't have to send us all
the way to Everett again.  I doubt that she will be able to do anything for
us.  When I mentioned to the last one that I have gastroparesis plus food
intolerances, she didn't have much to offer except to tell me which foods
were lactose free.  I then told her that it wasn't lactose that was the
problem but the casein.  She didn't really know what to say and said that it
sounded like I knew what I was doing diet-wise.

He also wants me to see the insulin lady.  I think she might be the same as
the dietician.  Said that on the high dose I am taking, I should be on the
concentrated kind.  This got me worried given the fridge full of insulin.
But...  We can't get in there till Jan.  So hopefully my stock will deplete
and I won't have to order more between now and then.  We'll see.


 
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Trawley Trash  
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 8:39 am
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From: Trawley Trash <tr...@invalid.invalid>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 05:18:42 -0800
Local: Tues, Nov 13 2012 8:18 am
Subject: Re: Visiit to Endo.
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:21:13 -0800

"Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
> My weight is down 1 pound.  But the Dr. found an enlarged thyroid.  I
> think it has been enlarged for many years but I think it is much more
> enlarged now.  It really hurt when he pressed on it and it still
> hurts.  Could explain why my eyes are so red, swollen and irritated.
> Could also explain my hunger or should I say lack of issues.  The
> bowel problems.  The coldness.  And my extreme sleepiness.  All I
> want to do of late is sleep, no matter how much sleep I have gotten.

  Thyroid insufficiency can be another autoimmune condition like
  diabetes.  Some foods are known to interfere with thyroid function
  also.

  The most common cause of enlarged thyroid is insufficient iodine
  in the diet.  My doc pointed out an enlarged thyroid on my first
  visit.  I began adding seaweed to my diet, and six months later
  the thyroid was normal sized, and did feel better.  Ordinary
  salt is enriched with iodine (iodized).  Special salts like
  sea salt and Kosher salt do not.  You can obtain seaweed in
  most any Asian grocery.  Now I have switched to using iodized
  salt.  It is easier than adding seaweed to things.

  The amino acid l-tyrosine can also increase thyroid hormone output.
  I take half a teaspoon in my tea.  


 
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Julie Bove  
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 10:12 am
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From: "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 07:12:20 -0800
Local: Tues, Nov 13 2012 10:12 am
Subject: Re: Visiit to Endo.

"Trawley Trash" <tr...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

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> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:21:13 -0800
> "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:

>> My weight is down 1 pound.  But the Dr. found an enlarged thyroid.  I
>> think it has been enlarged for many years but I think it is much more
>> enlarged now.  It really hurt when he pressed on it and it still
>> hurts.  Could explain why my eyes are so red, swollen and irritated.
>> Could also explain my hunger or should I say lack of issues.  The
>> bowel problems.  The coldness.  And my extreme sleepiness.  All I
>> want to do of late is sleep, no matter how much sleep I have gotten.

>  Thyroid insufficiency can be another autoimmune condition like
>  diabetes.  Some foods are known to interfere with thyroid function
>  also.

Yes, I know and we avoid those.  I used to eat a lot of soy because I
thought it was good for me.  When I stopped eating it, my thyroid problem
went away.  But now it seems it is back.

>  The most common cause of enlarged thyroid is insufficient iodine
>  in the diet.  My doc pointed out an enlarged thyroid on my first
>  visit.  I began adding seaweed to my diet, and six months later
>  the thyroid was normal sized, and did feel better.  Ordinary
>  salt is enriched with iodine (iodized).  Special salts like
>  sea salt and Kosher salt do not.  You can obtain seaweed in
>  most any Asian grocery.  Now I have switched to using iodized
>  salt.  It is easier than adding seaweed to things.

That could be the problem.  We eat Real Salt.  I can't stand the taste of
seaweed.  I did try it.

>  The amino acid l-tyrosine can also increase thyroid hormone output.
>  I take half a teaspoon in my tea.

Okay.  But first I want to see what my labs show.  I had symptoms awhile
back that I thought were hyperthyroid.

 
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bj  
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 11:22 am
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From: bj <address...@invalid.invalid>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:22:55 -0600
Local: Tues, Nov 13 2012 11:22 am
Subject: Re: Visiit to Endo.

Trawley Trash <tr...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:21:13 -0800
>   Ordinary salt is enriched with iodine (iodized).  Special salts like
> sea salt and Kosher salt do not.  

Some Kosher salt does have iodine added.

There are countries where it is difficult to get non-iodized salt due to
local regulations.

Fortunately for us in the USA, non-iodized salt is easy to find in any
general supermarket, usually next to the "regular"salt & prominently
labeled as not containing iodide.

Sea Salt is, like everything else from the sea, not allowed on a Low Iodine
Diet (done to prep for I-131 thyroid cancer treatment or scans). There is
no way to know just from the label "sea salt" how much natural iodine is in
it.

If you think diabetes teaches you about reading labels you should try doing
a good LID! That requires lots of time reading very small print on every
food product label (unless you're a rare person who uses no prepared,
canned, frozen, jarred, baggied, plastic-wrapped, shrink-wrapped, dried,
deli, bakery, or other type of packaged, processed or prepared-by-another
food or non-raw ingredient); little or no restaurant food too. (Tune up
those rusty cooking skills...and plan, Plan, PLAN Ahead....)

And also, in case you don't know, any dairy product from any mammal
contains iodine.  Egg yolks are also on the not-for-LID list. (yes, I know
some here do not eat any eggs &/or dairy products.)
bj


 
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Maya Zuiderweg  
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 12:14 pm
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From: Maya Zuiderweg <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:14:20 +0100
Local: Tues, Nov 13 2012 12:14 pm
Subject: Re: Visiit to Endo.
bj stelde de volgende uitleg voor :

Yup, here one has to go out of ones way to buy non-iodized salt.
M.

 
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Karen  
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 2:56 pm
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From: Karen <kquilts+noviruswan...@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:56:33 -0800
Local: Tues, Nov 13 2012 2:56 pm
Subject: Re: Visiit to Endo.
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:22:55 -0600, in alt.support.diabetes, bj

So true.  I've done the LID diet twice, and it can be a challenge
finding foods that do not contain iodine.  Anything premade that
contains salt is suspect.  We did actually find it easier just to buy
raw ingredients and prepare all food from scratch.  Even the bread had
to be made at home.  There are some good cookbooks out for the LID.  

I think Julie should ask her doctor before adding an iodine
supplement.  Too much can be a problem as well as not enough.  Since
so many foods contain it, I think it may be rare to be deficient in
it.


 
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Julie Bove  
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 4:42 pm
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From: "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:42:58 -0800
Local: Tues, Nov 13 2012 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: Visiit to Endo.

"bj" <address...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

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Oh snap!  I don't really like iodized salt but I do like Real Salt.  I can't
have any form of dairy or egg so I'm good there.

 
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 4:44 pm
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From: "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:44:43 -0800
Local: Tues, Nov 13 2012 4:44 pm
Subject: Re: Visiit to Endo.

"Karen" <kquilts+noviruswan...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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At this point we don't even know if there *is* a thyroid problem and if
there is, *what* there is.  So I would not add it right now.  There probably
is some in my multiple vitamin.  I'll check it.

 
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 6:01 pm
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From: "W. Baker" <wba...@panix.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:01:59 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Nov 13 2012 6:01 pm
Subject: Re: Visiit to Endo.

Julie Bove <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
: "Karen" <kquilts+noviruswan...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

: news:r295a8hcllnskddu98j9tm7fm15jb843ia@4ax.com...
: > On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:22:55 -0600, in alt.support.diabetes, bj
: > <address...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

: >
: >>Trawley Trash <tr...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
: >>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:21:13 -0800
: >>>   Ordinary salt is enriched with iodine (iodized).  Special salts like
: >>> sea salt and Kosher salt do not.
: >>>
: >>
: >>Some Kosher salt does have iodine added.
: >>
: >>There are countries where it is difficult to get non-iodized salt due to
: >>local regulations.
: >>
: >>Fortunately for us in the USA, non-iodized salt is easy to find in any
: >>general supermarket, usually next to the "regular"salt & prominently
: >>labeled as not containing iodide.
: >>
: >>Sea Salt is, like everything else from the sea, not allowed on a Low
: >>Iodine
: >>Diet (done to prep for I-131 thyroid cancer treatment or scans). There is
: >>no way to know just from the label "sea salt" how much natural iodine is
: >>in
: >>it.
: >>
: >>If you think diabetes teaches you about reading labels you should try
: >>doing
: >>a good LID! That requires lots of time reading very small print on every
: >>food product label (unless you're a rare person who uses no prepared,
: >>canned, frozen, jarred, baggied, plastic-wrapped, shrink-wrapped, dried,
: >>deli, bakery, or other type of packaged, processed or prepared-by-another
: >>food or non-raw ingredient); little or no restaurant food too. (Tune up
: >>those rusty cooking skills...and plan, Plan, PLAN Ahead....)
: >>
: >>And also, in case you don't know, any dairy product from any mammal
: >>contains iodine.  Egg yolks are also on the not-for-LID list. (yes, I know
: >>some here do not eat any eggs &/or dairy products.)
: >>bj
: >
: > So true.  I've done the LID diet twice, and it can be a challenge
: > finding foods that do not contain iodine.  Anything premade that
: > contains salt is suspect.  We did actually find it easier just to buy
: > raw ingredients and prepare all food from scratch.  Even the bread had
: > to be made at home.  There are some good cookbooks out for the LID.
: >
: > I think Julie should ask her doctor before adding an iodine
: > supplement.  Too much can be a problem as well as not enough.  Since
: > so many foods contain it, I think it may be rare to be deficient in
: > it.

: At this point we don't even know if there *is* a thyroid problem and if
: there is, *what* there is.  So I would not add it right now.  There probably
: is some in my multiple vitamin.  I'll check it.

It may well be present in all the prepared foods , like predooked
hamburgers, that you include in your diet as they include salt which is
probably iodized.  

Wendy  


 
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Julie Bove  
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 6:16 pm
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From: "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:16:02 -0800
Local: Tues, Nov 13 2012 6:16 pm
Subject: Re: Visiit to Endo.

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Could be.

 
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 8:32 pm
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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:32:10 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 13 2012 8:32 pm
Subject: Re: Visiit to Endo.
On 11-13-2012 16:44, Julie Bove wrote:

> At this point we don't even know if there*is*  a thyroid problem and if
> there is,*what*  there is.  So I would not add it right now.  There probably
> is some in my multiple vitamin.  I'll check it.

And what kind of thyroid problem.  Mine is Hashimoto's, and my doctor
says that iodine will indeed help the T4 production but by doing so, it
also causes the auto-immune problem to worsen.

--
Wes Groleau

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    all the way home in the back seat of the car.  His father asked him
    three times what was wrong.  Finally, the boy replied, “That preacher
    said he wanted us brought up in a Christian home, and I wanted to
    stay with you guys."


 
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 10:53 pm
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From: "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:53:26 -0800
Local: Tues, Nov 13 2012 10:53 pm
Subject: Re: Visiit to Endo.

"Wes Groleau" <Groleau+n...@FreeShell.org> wrote in message

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> On 11-13-2012 16:44, Julie Bove wrote:
>> At this point we don't even know if there*is*  a thyroid problem and if
>> there is,*what*  there is.  So I would not add it right now.  There
>> probably
>> is some in my multiple vitamin.  I'll check it.

> And what kind of thyroid problem.  Mine is Hashimoto's, and my doctor says
> that iodine will indeed help the T4 production but by doing so, it also
> causes the auto-immune problem to worsen.

Hmmm...  Angela has Hashimoto's.  The Endo. didn't say anything about
iodine.  Our Naturopath did put her on it but only for a few days.  And then
she was supposed to stop it.

 
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