Pill splitting
Julie Bove
split my Metformin and it's driving me batty. They seem to split more
evenly when I use my fingers but many of them are very tough for some reason
and I can't split them at all. I tried a knife and that doesn't work.
Bought a pill splitter. It will split them but many times it crushes one
half into powder. Bought a deluxe pill splitter thinking that would work
better. It doesn't. The pill keeps slipping around and it is next to
impossible to get equal halves. Any suggestions?
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"Ozgirl" <are_we_t...@maccas.com> wrote in message
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> Not sure what finger method you use but for small and large
> pills I put a pill across my index finger with the split
> line just on or over the edge of the finger, hold the top of
> the pill that is resting on my index finger down with my
> thumb. Then I grab the other end of the pill with the same
> two finger action on the other hand and break. Or if it is
> difficult I push down hard with my other thumb. Never had
> one crush.
They don't crush in my fingers. I just can't always get them to break that
way. Some of them are really tough. The pill splitter is a device with a
razor blade in it that pushes down and cuts the pill in two. Because such
force is used, they are made in such a way that you won't accidentally cut
yourself when using it. But that also means the pill is totally encased
while it is being split so you can't see what is happening. They seem to
work best with round pills that will stay put in the sort of "V" shaped
slot. The Metformin I take are huge oval pills that barely fit in the slot
and they tend to slip around. I think this is why they don't get cut
exactly in half.
Alan S
<juli...@verizon.net> wrote:
>Does anyone else have trouble splitting pills exactly in half? I have to
>split my Metformin and it's driving me batty. They seem to split more
>evenly when I use my fingers but many of them are very tough for some reason
>and I can't split them at all. I tried a knife and that doesn't work.
>Bought a pill splitter. It will split them but many times it crushes one
>half into powder. Bought a deluxe pill splitter thinking that would work
>better. It doesn't. The pill keeps slipping around and it is next to
>impossible to get equal halves. Any suggestions?
Depends on the pill. My 500mg diaform would be easy - they
have a score-mark across the middle. But I don't bother with
them.
Every six days I split my wife's 300mg soluble aspirin six
ways. I use a serrated steak knife to gently score across
the pill twice (there is already a single score-mark on the
pill) and gently "crack" it using pressure from the thumb
and forefinger of both hands. I reckon, with wastage from
scoring, each segment is about 40-45mg.
Try using a steak knife like that - but gently, letting the
weight of the blade do the work as you saw back and forth.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 2x500mg
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"Julie Bove" <juli...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Does anyone else have trouble splitting pills exactly in half? I have to
> split my Metformin and it's driving me batty.
>ask the day before to give them time, no charge involved in Canada, may not
>be the same in every country.
Other than that my wife has used a very small paring knife, tedious but
worked.
anothas...@aol.com
give them away for "free" (with prescriptions)
Here's a link to the type my pharmacy carries:
http://www.lifesvigor.com/prod/9100/index.htm
BoB
Mopar Girl
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I have to
> >split my Metformin and it's driving me batty. They seem to
split more
> >evenly when I use my fingers but many of them are very tough
for some reason
> >and I can't split them at all. I tried a knife and that
doesn't work.
> >Bought a pill splitter. It will split them but many times it
crushes one
> >half into powder. Bought a deluxe pill splitter thinking that
would work
> >better. It doesn't. The pill keeps slipping around and it is
next to
> >impossible to get equal halves. Any suggestions?
>
>
>
> Be sure it is OK to split the pills you are talking about. Many
> controlled release tablets require the tablets to be taken
whole for
> the medicine to be absorbed properly.
>
> Rich
I split my Glucophage both with a knife and my fingers and they
cut or break even most of the time, but I take both halfs at
once.
Mine are not the controlled release ones and I have trouble
swallowing pills so I have to split it.
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Billie
the pill slicer, especially those oblong ones that cannot be held firm. I haven't had to split
the Metformin, but I have some others, and it is that instability within the pill slicer, and
they get turned a bit, often only leaving you with one half a usable pill. I'd hate to think I
had to slice my potassium pills....... they are sooo thick! Maybe there is a slicer out there
that holds the oblong ones stationary. Let me know if you find a good solution, though I do not
have to slice pills very often.
Billie
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"Alan S" <loralweig...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Mine are scored in the middle but they're thick. Don't have a steak knife.
And I'm afraid if I'd have to hold the pill steady to saw back and forth. I
might cut my fingers.
When I try to break them with my fingers they either break really easily or
not at all. Only about 20% of them break easily. Not sure why that is.
They don't look any different than the other pills.
Julie Bove
<anothas...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Many US pharmacies carry inexpensive pill splitters. Some of them even
> give them away for "free" (with prescriptions)
>
> Here's a link to the type my pharmacy carries:
> http://www.lifesvigor.com/prod/9100/index.htm
I have two of them. One looks similar to that. They don't work very well
to get them exactly in half.
Julie Bove
"Dick Malchik" <Do...@Ask.com> wrote in message
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> Julie,
>
> Be sure it is OK to split the pills you are talking about. Many
> controlled release tablets require the tablets to be taken whole for
> the medicine to be absorbed properly.
They're not time released and due to the way they're prescribed, I have to
split some of them. Dose at dinner is 1 1/2 pills.
Jennifer
BIG difference.
Over time you'll have a tad more Met on day one, a tad less on the other.
What total dose are you trying to achieve at dinner? Met comes in
500mg, 750mg and 1000mg. If you're splitting the 1000mg, ask your doc
or pharmacist if you can get half your prescription in 500mg pills. If
you're splitting the 500mg to get 750mg total... they come in 750mg.
Maybe there's someway to juggle the way you get your pills so you don't
have to split.
Jennifer
Billie
it shifts, ending up with uneven doses. :( Extra scoring with a knife (a sharp paring knife
seems to work) *does* help sometimes)
Billie
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T2 (autoimmune but somewhat *controlled* until worsened by Prednisone)
Diagnosed by GTT in 1971 at age 29; not treated until 2001 at age 59
Pumping with MiniMed Paradigm 715, 2/06 Humalog, 59u/day + boluses
Symlin, 20u before meals and snacks; subject in Symlin research project
Serious Autonomic and Peripheral neuropathy affecting quality of life
Permanent optic nerve damage in left eye due to glaucoma; pitted cornea
Bilateral cataract removal (familial and/or diabetes the culprit(s); lens implant; monovision
and loving it!
Multiple autoimmune/connective tissue diseases (Lupus and Rheumatoid Arthritis among them)
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Mopar Girl
Sometimes I put the pill on a pot holder or a folded up paper
towel to make it more steady to cut with a knife.
TigerLily
( ) edges on it to hold the rectangular or
non-oval pills in....... that seems to work for my
oval pills.............. ask at your pharmacy for
the maker/brand and if they have any in stock
(they just gave me theirs when i asked then to
order one in for me)
the \/ splitters do NOT work well with oval pills
kate
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"Billie" <love.my...@kittycats.net> wrote in message
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> Mine looks exactly like that, Julie. You can have it in position, and
then when you close it,
> it shifts, ending up with uneven doses. :( Extra scoring with a knife (a
sharp paring knife
> seems to work) *does* help sometimes)
Yep! That's exactly what happens! Maybe I could try that.
Julie Bove
"Jennifer" <jennife...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> I wouldn't worry so much if they're not exactly 50/50... unless it's a
> BIG difference.
>
> Over time you'll have a tad more Met on day one, a tad less on the other.
>
> What total dose are you trying to achieve at dinner? Met comes in
> 500mg, 750mg and 1000mg. If you're splitting the 1000mg, ask your doc
> or pharmacist if you can get half your prescription in 500mg pills. If
> you're splitting the 500mg to get 750mg total... they come in 750mg.
> Maybe there's someway to juggle the way you get your pills so you don't
> have to split.
I take 1,000 mg in the morning and 1,500 with dinner. My insurance is such
that they won't allow me the 500 mg unless I am only taking 500 mg. This has
caused me great confusion at times when the Dr. changes my dose on a med.
Instead of allowing me the correct dosage of med, they require me to double
up or take half until I've used up all that I have.
W. Baker
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: > Julie,
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: > Be sure it is OK to split the pills you are talking about. Many
: > controlled release tablets require the tablets to be taken whole for
: > the medicine to be absorbed properly.
: They're not time released and due to the way they're prescribed, I have to
: split some of them. Dose at dinner is 1 1/2 pills.
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Can you get your doctor t prescribe them in two sizes so yu don't have to
split them?
Wendy
Julie Bove
"Mopar Girl" <987...@321.com> wrote in message
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> Sometimes I put the pill on a pot holder or a folded up paper
> towel to make it more steady to cut with a knife.
Eesh! That would make a real career out of it!
Julie Bove
"TigerLily" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Julie........ there is a pill splitter that has
> ( ) edges on it to hold the rectangular or
> non-oval pills in....... that seems to work for my
> oval pills.............. ask at your pharmacy for
> the maker/brand and if they have any in stock
> (they just gave me theirs when i asked then to
> order one in for me)
>
> the \/ splitters do NOT work well with oval pills
> kate
I didn't know that! I will look for one of those.
Priscilla H. Ballou
"Julie Bove" <juli...@verizon.net> wrote:
I thought the daily max was more like 2250 mg, not 2500 mg. Or am I
getting the max for the regular confused with the max for the XR?
Priscilla
Jennifer
Jennifer
Billie
Billie
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T2 (autoimmune but somewhat *controlled* until worsened by Prednisone)
Diagnosed by GTT in 1971 at age 29; not treated until 2001 at age 59
Pumping with MiniMed Paradigm 715, 2/06 Humalog, 59u/day + boluses
Symlin, 20u before meals and snacks; subject in Symlin research project
Serious Autonomic and Peripheral neuropathy affecting quality of life
Permanent optic nerve damage in left eye due to glaucoma; pitted cornea
Bilateral cataract removal (familial and/or diabetes the culprit(s); lens implant; monovision
and loving it!
Multiple autoimmune/connective tissue diseases (Lupus and Rheumatoid Arthritis among them)
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Billie
Tricare (if I remember correctly, when there is not a local, or very near military medical
facility, it enables you to use Tricare..... I just asked Jim about that, and he said that is
right with the active duty personnel without facilities nearby)?
What kind of insurance do you have? We have found Tricare to be very good coverage. I did some
refills yesterday, and they were like $3 each, with his brand name Zoloft being $9. There is
another cost for the drugs not included in the formulary. Now, this is Tricare For Life for
retirees, so our coverage may not be the same as for active duty. You *are* getting your meds
for free aren't you? Even if you had to submit the costs to Tricare (provided you might be in
this situation - I am not familiar with what is afforded to the Coast Guard, like a base, or
base-type facilities. We have to use the naval hospital in Memphis (about two hours), or Little
Rock Air Force Base (about 3.5 hours) for any of our military matters (ID card renewals for
example) because they closed our base down back in the 90's. We stopped using the base hospital
and doctors after he retired. Jim's hospital employment after retiring gave us our primary
insurance, and then CHAMPUS/Tricare for whatever it did not cover. For instance, he submits our
co-pay to Tricare for reimbursement........ last month's was over $500......... but now that he
is retired from the hospital Medicare is our primary, and Tricare still secondary and our
prescription coverage.
I know this is more information than you probably want/need, and certainly our coverages are
most likely different, but maybe there is something that might help you. How long has your
husband been in the Coastguard? Do they ever have assignments outside of the U.S.?
Have a good day!
Billie
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bh-wages @ swbell.net
T2 (autoimmune but somewhat *controlled* until worsened by Prednisone)
Diagnosed by GTT in 1971 at age 29; not treated until 2001 at age 59
Pumping with MiniMed Paradigm 715, 2/06 Humalog, 59u/day + boluses
Symlin, 20u before meals and snacks; subject in Symlin research project
Serious Autonomic and Peripheral neuropathy affecting quality of life
Permanent optic nerve damage in left eye due to glaucoma; pitted cornea
Bilateral cataract removal (familial and/or diabetes the culprit(s); lens implant; monovision
and loving it!
Multiple autoimmune/connective tissue diseases (Lupus and Rheumatoid Arthritis among them)
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Susan <neve...@nomail.com> wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
> I think it's 2550, typically, in the U.S. This number comes from 3
> 850mg pills, though, not because it's necessarily the optimum clinical
> number.
Ah! Thanks.
Priscilla
nane...@aol.com
I was started on 1000 mg glucophage several years ago, 1 in the
morning, one at night, but the morning readings were very low so my
doctor told me to split a pill for the evening dose. I've found a
rather dull and thick knife works well. Slow pressure against the
groove that's already there.
Nan, Type 2
Mopar Girl
My parents drive to the Air Force Base in Cocoa Florida for their
medications. They each pay $4 for all their medications, they get
a 3 month supply. Even if they each have 10 medications, it only
costs then $8 for all. I do not need that as I get most of mine
for free, a couple cost $18 for a 3 month supply.
Julie Bove
"W. Baker" <wba...@panix.com> wrote in message
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> Can you get your doctor t prescribe them in two sizes so yu don't have to
> split them?
Yes. But since they are available in the larger size, my insurance would
require me to get the larger ones and split them. This is a fairly new
thing I think. I think it is cheaper for them to do it this way.
Julie Bove
"Priscilla H. Ballou" <vze2...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> I thought the daily max was more like 2250 mg, not 2500 mg. Or am I
> getting the max for the regular confused with the max for the XR?
Max for both is 2500 daily.
Julie Bove
"Jennifer" <jennife...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Maybe your doc could "fool" the system by prescribing 500mg 5x a day.
I doubt it. Since that wouldn't be the standard way of taking it.
Julie Bove
"Billie" <love.my...@kittycats.net> wrote in message
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> Julie, do you not have a military hospital/pharmacy where you all are? If
not, then do you use
> Tricare (if I remember correctly, when there is not a local, or very near
military medical
> facility, it enables you to use Tricare..... I just asked Jim about that,
and he said that is
> right with the active duty personnel without facilities nearby)?
>
Nope. Not near me. I do use Tricare insurance.
> What kind of insurance do you have? We have found Tricare to be very good
coverage. I did some
> refills yesterday, and they were like $3 each, with his brand name Zoloft
being $9. There is
> another cost for the drugs not included in the formulary. Now, this is
Tricare For Life for
> retirees, so our coverage may not be the same as for active duty. You
*are* getting your meds
> for free aren't you?
I have Tricare for life as well since I am on disability, part B only. Meds
are not free. They would be *if* I got them at a military pharmacy, but
there is none nearby. And it really isn't an option for me since they do
not stock most of the meds I am on. I've tried to go that route before.
It's a super big hassle due to the hours and days they are open, and because
I can only get some of what I need there, not worth it to me.
>Even if you had to submit the costs to Tricare (provided you might be in
> this situation - I am not familiar with what is afforded to the Coast
Guard, like a base, or
> base-type facilities.
There is no base here. We live out in the community and the only medical
here is for active duty only and even then it is limited. My husband has
had to go to local Drs. and hospitals for specialty things.
>We have to use the naval hospital in Memphis (about two hours), or Little
> Rock Air Force Base (about 3.5 hours) for any of our military matters (ID
card renewals for
> example) because they closed our base down back in the 90's. We stopped
using the base hospital
> and doctors after he retired. Jim's hospital employment after retiring
gave us our primary
> insurance, and then CHAMPUS/Tricare for whatever it did not cover. For
instance, he submits our
> co-pay to Tricare for reimbursement........ last month's was over
$500......... but now that he
> is retired from the hospital Medicare is our primary, and Tricare still
secondary and our
> prescription coverage.
The only place where I've been able to use base medical was when we lived on
Cape Cod. And there again, it was limited facilities. When I became
pregnant, I was required to go elsewhere.
>
> I know this is more information than you probably want/need, and certainly
our coverages are
> most likely different, but maybe there is something that might help you.
How long has your
> husband been in the Coastguard? Do they ever have assignments outside of
the U.S.?
Insurance and getting the pills isn't the problem. Just splitting them. I
think my husband has been in 23 years. Yes, they can go to other countries
but not as common as the other branches of the service. More commonly they
will be stationed on a ship that will go overseas. When we lived on Cape
Cod, he was on a ship that went around South America on drug patrol. It is
not likely he will be on a ship again given his rank and the fact that he
has well exceeded the amount of sea time needed. However, the Dept. of
Homeland Defense has somewhat recently taken over the Coast Guard and many
changes have been made. We never thought we'd be able to come back to WA
again, but here we are!
Julie Bove
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Well, I'll try that. I tried a sharp knife but all that did was get the
pill partially stuck in the pill and really hard to get off the blade.
Jennifer
J
Trinity
> Does anyone else have trouble splitting pills exactly in half? I have to
> evenly when I use my fingers but many of them are very tough for some reason
> and I can't split them at all. I tried a knife and that doesn't work.
> Bought a pill splitter. It will split them but many times it crushes one
> half into powder. Bought a deluxe pill splitter thinking that would work
> better. It doesn't. The pill keeps slipping around and it is next to
> impossible to get equal halves. Any suggestions?
>
Trinity
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>"Dick Malchik" <Do...@Ask.com> wrote in message
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>> Julie,
>>
>> Be sure it is OK to split the pills you are talking about. Many
>> controlled release tablets require the tablets to be taken whole for
>> the medicine to be absorbed properly.
>
>They're not time released and due to the way they're prescribed, I have to
>split some of them. Dose at dinner is 1 1/2 pills.
Would your pharmacist pre-split them if you asked?
Here, pharmacists provide a service with "Webster Paks"
where they put a week's pills into blister packs arranged in
four daily lots. The pharmacists charge a nominal fee ($2-3)
for the service, depending on circumstances. Pills are split
if appropriate to the dose.
http://www.webstercare.com.au/home.asp
Pictures here:
http://www.webstercare.com.au/wnew_p.asp
Originally designed for hospital and nursing home use, I've
noticed several patients picking them up when I've been
collecting my lipitor and diaform.
I wasn't aware of the system until my f-i-l needed them when
he was going into respite care for a couple of weeks. He was
issued with cold-seal paks by our pharmacist - the respite
centre refused to accept bottles and packs of loose pills.
I'm not sure if the nominal fee is subsidised by our PBS
system.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 2x500mg
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> <anothas...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> > Many US pharmacies carry inexpensive pill splitters. Some of them even
> > give them away for "free" (with prescriptions)
> >
> > Here's a link to the type my pharmacy carries:
> > http://www.lifesvigor.com/prod/9100/index.htm
>
> to get them exactly in half.
"Exactly" is a concept that can only be approximated in the real world.
IMO variations up to 10% won't make much of a difference.
But then that's just my opinion.
If you really want to get VERY precise (and money is no object), a pill
crusher and a good scale accurate to within 1mg will do the job.
BoB
Julie Bove
<anothas...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Exactly" is a concept that can only be approximated in the real world.
> IMO variations up to 10% won't make much of a difference.
> But then that's just my opinion.
> If you really want to get VERY precise (and money is no object), a pill
> crusher and a good scale accurate to within 1mg will do the job.
True. But it doesn't do me much good to have 3/4 of a pill and 1/4 of a
pill or about 1/2 of a pill and the other 1/2 crushed to powder.
Julie Bove
"Alan S" <loralweig...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> Would your pharmacist pre-split them if you asked?
No. That's why they sell pills splitters. They don't split them for you.
> Here, pharmacists provide a service with "Webster Paks"
> where they put a week's pills into blister packs arranged in
> four daily lots. The pharmacists charge a nominal fee ($2-3)
> for the service, depending on circumstances. Pills are split
> if appropriate to the dose.
We have nothing like that here and I wouldn't want it. I hate blister
packs. It's enough of a chore getting all my pills in order for a week. If
they were all in blister packs I'd go nuts!!!
>
> http://www.webstercare.com.au/home.asp
> Pictures here:
> http://www.webstercare.com.au/wnew_p.asp
>
> Originally designed for hospital and nursing home use, I've
> noticed several patients picking them up when I've been
> collecting my lipitor and diaform.
>
> I wasn't aware of the system until my f-i-l needed them when
> he was going into respite care for a couple of weeks. He was
> issued with cold-seal paks by our pharmacist - the respite
> centre refused to accept bottles and packs of loose pills.
> I'm not sure if the nominal fee is subsidised by our PBS
> system.
Well, there is nothing like that here. Bottles only and any more it's
difficult to get them that are not in a child-proof one. Yes, I have a
child but she has been able to open the child-proof ones since about the age
of three. I learned when they first came out with them that if you can't
get the top off, ask a child. They always can.
Julie Bove
"Trinity" <trinit...@nospamyahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> Have you tried your teeth? Just wondering.
You are joking? Right? If a knife won't cut through them, I sure wouldn't
try using my teeth! I kinda need my teeth. And then there's the matter of
them not being sanitary if they've touched my teeth.
Trinity
> "Trinity" <trinit...@nospamyahoo.ca> wrote in message
> news:nyz1g.1974$DR6.1...@news20.bellglobal.com...
>
>
>>Have you tried your teeth? Just wondering.
>
>
> You are joking? Right? If a knife won't cut through them, I sure wouldn't
> try using my teeth! I kinda need my teeth. And then there's the matter of
> them not being sanitary if they've touched my teeth.
>
her teeth to cut the allergy pill in half (no score line). A whole pill
would totally knock her out and this is a childrens benedryl.
So, I was half joking and half not.
What would not be sanitary touching your teeth, the pill? You are not
sharing it?
trinity
Julie Bove
"Blkbear" <blk...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> Howdy Julie,
>
> Are the pills you are trying to split already scored? If not try
> scoring them, several at a time to help save time later works, and is
> what we did for my grandmother, on any pills that didn't come
> pre-scored.
They are scored. What I don't understand is why some of the split in two in
my fingers with only slight pressue and others will remain solid. Actually
I thought none of them could be split with my fingers because I had tried it
repeatedly. And then I accidentally split one in taking it from the
container. After that I tried splitting them with my fingers. About 20% of
them will split easily and the others give me trouble no matter what I've
tried.
>
> Solid un-scored pills will tend to often crush or split uneven, the
> same as ceramic tiles would if you tried to cut them without scoring
> them first. And if they have a coating of any sort, it makes it even
> harder to split them without scoring first.
>
> Something I do for clients that have meds they can't get in smaller
> doses, is to ask the pharmacy to split the pills or find one that will
> and get that med there.
I get mine at Rite Aid and I don't think they will split pills. When my
daughter was prescribed large pills they told me to split them myself.
>
> Most of those home pill splitters will tend to do great on some types
> of pills shapes (the bigger the pill/tab), the better it seems to
> split. Pills and tabs that are compressed, seem to crush (one side or
> the other), more than the ones that are mixed with a binder and
> compressed. Have noticed that pills that dissolve fairly fast in your
> mouth (before you can get a drink), tend to crush easier with a pill
> splitter.
These are really big ones. They barely fit in the pill splitter. But I
will look for the kind without the V shaped holder in it. That might work
better for me.
Julie Bove
"Trinity" <trinit...@nospamyahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> Well I don't know how hard they are - metformin that is. My spouse uses
> her teeth to cut the allergy pill in half (no score line). A whole pill
> would totally knock her out and this is a childrens benedryl.
They are SUPER hard! This is why I am having trouble splitting it. I also
have veneers on my two front teeth after my lovely daughter broke them off
at about 18 months of age. She was sitting in my lap and I lifted a glass
bottle of mineral water to my mouth to take a drink just as she reared her
head back into me, ramming the bottle into my mouth. She would have rammed
my tonsils right down my throat had they still been there. So no way am I
taking the chance of wrecking my teeth doing something like that.
>
> So, I was half joking and half not.
>
> What would not be sanitary touching your teeth, the pill? You are not
> sharing it?
Not sharing it but your saliva would get on it. And any time that happens,
you would be making it unsanitary. And it would cause the pill to break
down. I don't think this would be advisable for anyone and I would never do
such a thing.
Julie Bove
changeable beds in different shapes for differently shaped pills. Looks
like this is what I need. The two I have with the "V" shaped pill holders
seem to work just fine for round pills but not others. Will let you know
how it works after I get it.
http://www.split12.com/en/about_demidose.html
Nev.
"Julie Bove" wrote...
>
> They are scored. What I don't understand is why some of them split in two
> my fingers with only slight pressue and others will remain solid.
> Actually
> I thought none of them could be split with my fingers because I had tried
> it
> repeatedly. And then I accidentally split one in taking it from the
> container.
Just trying to think of something different.
Might a sharp pair of garden pruning shears do the job? Or would that be
like
using a sledgehammer to crack a peanut?
Nev.
Julie Bove
"Julie Bove" <juli...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> In searching online, I found this product. Am going to order one. It has
> changeable beds in different shapes for differently shaped pills. Looks
> like this is what I need. The two I have with the "V" shaped pill holders
> seem to work just fine for round pills but not others. Will let you know
> how it works after I get it.
>
> http://www.split12.com/en/about_demidose.html
Well, I did not get this product after all. Turns out you have to order
specific pill beds and Metformin isn't listed. Will continue my search.
*sigh*
Julie Bove
"Nev." <n...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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> Just trying to think of something different.
>
> Might a sharp pair of garden pruning shears do the job? Or would that be
> like
> using a sledgehammer to crack a peanut?
I think that would crush it. I think what I need to do is find a splitter
with a differently shaped base. Will continue my search.
Alan S
<juli...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>I think that would crush it. I think what I need to do is find a splitter
>with a differently shaped base. Will continue my search.
Do you have any serrated-edge knives at all? Not just steak,
but bread or similar?
As I mentioned earlier, you don't press down, just saw
gently back and forth and let the weight of the blade do the
work.
anothas...@aol.com
> <anothas...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> > "Exactly" is a concept that can only be approximated in the real world.
> > IMO variations up to 10% won't make much of a difference.
> > But then that's just my opinion.
> > If you really want to get VERY precise (and money is no object), a pill
> > crusher and a good scale accurate to within 1mg will do the job.
>
> True. But it doesn't do me much good to have 3/4 of a pill and 1/4 of a
> pill or about 1/2 of a pill and the other 1/2 crushed to powder.
Where do all the fractions come from?
You wrote that you have to take 1000 mg in the morning and 1500 mg with
dinner, but you only have 1000 mg pills.
So - unless Metformin loses it's potency within 24 hours of being
crushed - all you have to do is crush one 1000 mg pill every other day,
use the scale to divide the powder into two 500 mg heaps, then take one
500 mg heap with a 1000 mg pill for dinner today and the second 500mg
heap with a 1000 mg pill tomorrow.
BoB
Julie Bove
"Alan S" <loralweig...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 05:39:06 GMT, "Julie Bove"
> <juli...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >I think that would crush it. I think what I need to do is find a
splitter
> >with a differently shaped base. Will continue my search.
>
> Do you have any serrated-edge knives at all? Not just steak,
> but bread or similar?
>
> As I mentioned earlier, you don't press down, just saw
> gently back and forth and let the weight of the blade do the
> work.
Only a big bread knife, but I wouldn't try to cut a pill with that. I'd cut
myself for sure! I cut three pills last night using the pill splitter and
they came out okay but it took me a long time. I had to really force the
pill hard into the slot and then keep a keen eye on it (I used the one I
have that is clear), pressing down very carefully and evenly. I also held
it sort of up so the pill couldn't slide out of the slot. I have since
ordered yet another model that is magnifying. Perhaps I will have better
luck with that.
Julie Bove
<anothas...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Where do all the fractions come from?
> You wrote that you have to take 1000 mg in the morning and 1500 mg with
> dinner, but you only have 1000 mg pills.
> So - unless Metformin loses it's potency within 24 hours of being
> crushed - all you have to do is crush one 1000 mg pill every other day,
> use the scale to divide the powder into two 500 mg heaps, then take one
> 500 mg heap with a 1000 mg pill for dinner today and the second 500mg
> heap with a 1000 mg pill tomorrow.
And just how do you propose that I take a crushed pill? I do prefer to
swallow my pills. Not mix them with applesauce or try to stuff the crushed
contents into a piller. I also portion out my pills weekly or sometimes
even two weeks at a time. I am often not home at dinner time and have to
take the pills along with me. Kind of hard to take a heap of powder with
me.
TigerLily
it's a MedPort Pill splitter that i have with the
varying
( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) sizes to hold the
pill in
kate
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"TigerLily" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>
http://www.diabeticexpress.com/content/ProductDetail.aspx?CategoryID=74&SubCategoryID=&ItemID=23-07
>
> it's a MedPort Pill splitter that i have with the
> varying
> ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) sizes to hold the
> pill in
Aha! Thanks! I searched and searched but never found that one. I will get
that as well.
Trinity
not want to use them. I do hope you find something that works effectively!
Cheers,
Trinity
jacquie
Aren't you with TriCare? Maybe you can call the company and explain to them
about your problem...maybe they will let you change the pills. I am on
Metformin XR and the pharmacy where I go to(Base doesn't carry XR) only has
the 500 mg MetforminXR...he called TriCare and they said that was fine.
Jacquie
"Julie Bove" <juli...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> "Jennifer" <jennife...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>> I wouldn't worry so much if they're not exactly 50/50... unless it's a
>> BIG difference.
>>
>> Over time you'll have a tad more Met on day one, a tad less on the other.
>>
>> What total dose are you trying to achieve at dinner? Met comes in
>> 500mg, 750mg and 1000mg. If you're splitting the 1000mg, ask your doc
>> or pharmacist if you can get half your prescription in 500mg pills. If
>> you're splitting the 500mg to get 750mg total... they come in 750mg.
>> Maybe there's someway to juggle the way you get your pills so you don't
>> have to split.
>
> I take 1,000 mg in the morning and 1,500 with dinner. My insurance is
> such
> that they won't allow me the 500 mg unless I am only taking 500 mg. This
> has
> caused me great confusion at times when the Dr. changes my dose on a med.
> Instead of allowing me the correct dosage of med, they require me to
> double
> up or take half until I've used up all that I have.
jacquie
a copay when I go off base for a prescription. By the way for those that are
retired and pay premiums...TriCare is doubling their premiums due to change
next year. Hubby came home and told me retired Army Buddy just found out
"Mopar Girl" <987...@321.com> wrote in message
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> "Billie" <love.my...@kittycats.net> wrote in message
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>> Julie, do you not have a military hospital/pharmacy where you
> all are? If not, then do you use
>> Tricare (if I remember correctly, when there is not a local, or
> very near military medical
>> facility, it enables you to use Tricare..... I just asked Jim
> about that, and he said that is
>> right with the active duty personnel without facilities
> nearby)?
>>
>> What kind of insurance do you have? We have found Tricare to
> be very good coverage. I did some
>> refills yesterday, and they were like $3 each, with his brand
> name Zoloft being $9. There is
>> another cost for the drugs not included in the formulary. Now,
> this is Tricare For Life for
>> retirees, so our coverage may not be the same as for active
> duty. You *are* getting your meds
>> for free aren't you? Even if you had to submit the costs to
> Tricare (provided you might be in
>> this situation - I am not familiar with what is afforded to the
> Coast Guard, like a base, or
>> base-type facilities. We have to use the naval hospital in
> Memphis (about two hours), or Little
>> Rock Air Force Base (about 3.5 hours) for any of our military
> matters (ID card renewals for
>> example) because they closed our base down back in the 90's.
> We stopped using the base hospital
>> and doctors after he retired. Jim's hospital employment after
> retiring gave us our primary
>> insurance, and then CHAMPUS/Tricare for whatever it did not
> cover. For instance, he submits our
>> co-pay to Tricare for reimbursement........ last month's was
> over $500......... but now that he
>> is retired from the hospital Medicare is our primary, and
> Tricare still secondary and our
>> prescription coverage.
>>
>> I know this is more information than you probably want/need,
> and certainly our coverages are
>> most likely different, but maybe there is something that might
> help you. How long has your
>> husband been in the Coastguard? Do they ever have assignments
> outside of the U.S.?
>>
>> Have a good day!
>> Billie
>>
>> --
>>
>> A Happy Pumper in Arkansas!
>> bh-wages @ swbell.net
>>
>> T2 (autoimmune but somewhat *controlled* until worsened by
> Prednisone)
>> Diagnosed by GTT in 1971 at age 29; not treated until 2001 at
> age 59
>> Pumping with MiniMed Paradigm 715, 2/06 Humalog, 59u/day +
> boluses
>> Symlin, 20u before meals and snacks; subject in Symlin research
> project
>> Serious Autonomic and Peripheral neuropathy affecting quality
> of life
>> Permanent optic nerve damage in left eye due to glaucoma;
> pitted cornea
>> Bilateral cataract removal (familial and/or diabetes the
> culprit(s); lens implant; monovision
>> and loving it!
>> Multiple autoimmune/connective tissue diseases (Lupus and
> Rheumatoid Arthritis among them)
>
>
> My parents drive to the Air Force Base in Cocoa Florida for their
> medications. They each pay $4 for all their medications, they get
> a 3 month supply. Even if they each have 10 medications, it only
> costs then $8 for all. I do not need that as I get most of mine
> for free, a couple cost $18 for a 3 month supply.
>
> --
> Suzi
> A1c 6.4 T2 DX 10/2002
> Glucophage 2 x 1000mg
> Lipitor 20mg (3 days a week), Enalapril 20mg
> 30 minutes walks 7 days a week
>
>
Julie Bove
"jacquie" <happi...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Julie.
> Aren't you with TriCare? Maybe you can call the company and explain to
them
> about your problem...maybe they will let you change the pills. I am on
> Metformin XR and the pharmacy where I go to(Base doesn't carry XR) only
has
> the 500 mg MetforminXR...he called TriCare and they said that was fine.
I am. But so far they haven't been very helpful when it comes to meds.
When I was taking a thyroid med I was forced to switch to something else
because they refused to cover the med I'd been on. What they have done in
the past when my Dr. changes the dose of my med is to refuse to give me the
new dose until I've used up every pill I already have in some kind of way.
Karl
> When I get my meds on base I don't pay anything...and we are retired. I
> pay
> a copay when I go off base for a prescription. By the way for those that
> are
> retired and pay premiums...TriCare is doubling their premiums due to
> change
> next year. Hubby came home and told me retired Army Buddy just found out
Jacquie;
Just so you know, that increase isn't yet set in stone, and also is not all
next year (unless he's a retired officer).
http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,82291,00.html
"Prime enrollment fees (now $230/$460) would be raised for retired officers
to $400/$800 (individual/family) next October, to $600/$1200 a year later
and to $750/$1500 by October 2008, the start of fiscal 2009. Enlisted
retirees under 65 would see Prime enrollment fees climb to $300/$600 next
October, to $375/$750 a year later and to $450/$900 in October 2008."
http://www.tricare.osd.mil/STB/proposed-cost-table.cfm Shows much the same,
with the additional information that co-pays on generic medications through
mail order would go down from 3 dollars per 3 month supply to free.
Karl
jacquie
when my husband first decided to stay in the military he didn't get it in
writing that if he retired from the Military he would get free Medical Care
the rest of his life...like he was told. We told our son (AF) to get
everything in writing when he was promised anything by the Military. Do you
use MailOrder? We have a base close to us so we use the pharmacy
there.....except for my MetforminXR as they don't carry it. I like the XR
because I don't get the side effects as bad and I don't have to remember to
take them twice a day...LOL..:)
"Karl" <karlmi...@hotmail.net> wrote in message
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Billie
benefits. Yep, those promises made back in the 50's are like a sieve...... holes all through
them, with the promises dribbling right out. Who'd a'thought that serving your country was not
appreciated any more than that. Gotta get away from here.... this subject pushes a lot of my
buttons. LOL !! A *wealthy* country, yet some of its members qualified for food stamps, and
the ones we knew were not isolated cases. *sad*
Where all were you stationed, Jacque? Which branch of the services? Jim was Air Force, 23
years, and some of those should have counted double for all we went through. However, I really
wouldn't trade our experiences for anything. Took this *girl* right out of the South, and threw
her into a world or harsh realities that formed a stronger foundation, and were instrumental in
her getting her priorities straight, and a healthy perspective on life in general.
--
A Happy Pumper in Arkansas!
bh-wages @ swbell.net
T2 (autoimmune but somewhat *controlled* until worsened by Prednisone)
Diagnosed by GTT in 1971 at age 29; not treated until 2001 at age 59
Pumping with MiniMed Paradigm 715, 2/06 Humalog, 59u/day + boluses
Symlin, 20u before meals and snacks; subject in Symlin research project
Serious Autonomic and Peripheral neuropathy affecting quality of life
Permanent optic nerve damage in left eye due to glaucoma; pitted cornea
Bilateral cataract removal (familial and/or diabetes the culprit(s); lens implant; monovision
and loving it!
Multiple autoimmune/connective tissue diseases (Lupus and Rheumatoid Arthritis among them)
"jacquie" <happi...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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: Thanks Karl..we now pay $460.00 a year.I'll let my husband know. To bad
:
:
Karl
> Thanks Karl..we now pay $460.00 a year.I'll let my husband know. To bad
> when my husband first decided to stay in the military he didn't get it in
> writing that if he retired from the Military he would get free Medical
> Care the rest of his life...like he was told. We told our son (AF) to get
> everything in writing when he was promised anything by the Military. Do
> you use MailOrder? We have a base close to us so we use the pharmacy
> there.....except for my MetforminXR as they don't carry it. I like the XR
> because I don't get the side effects as bad and I don't have to remember
> to take them twice a day...LOL..:)
Yes, I use mail order - there is no base near me.
jacquie
times...and Alaska. Hubby also went to Thailand and Korea...not to mention
lots of TDY's:) LOL..I was 17 when we got married and he was almost
21...talk about growing up real fast..:) My son is now making a career out
of the AF. He sewed on TSGT in January.
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Billie
married, and in Dec. '63, we packed it all in our Volkswagen, trekked to Brooklyn Army Terminal,
gave them the bug, then we flew off for Izmir, Turkey! Talk about a rude awakening! We had
just had a harrowing flight from Istanbul to Izmir on a Turkish plane in stormy weather, and I
promise you, I was ready to get right back on that plane after having a good look around the
plane as we made our way off the plane. That was the roughest looking bunch of men than I had
ever seen before in all my life!! Over the course of the next few years, I really got to know
the Turkish people, and *understood* what they were all about. I'd done my share of bargaining
with them, spoke their language, and stayed *by choice* in the same hotel that we so desperately
got out of our first day there. LOL
Jim retired when the AF could not come up with anything better than the snows of South Dakota,
after we had come here to Blytheville, AFB, [now closed] on a base of preference because of our
aging relatives. Glad we did, too, because my mother died just a couple of years later, and we
were able to spend some time with her after all those years away.
Jim never had a remote assignment. Never did anything to keep from it, it just never came up
for him. ???? And that was during Vietnam.
Congratulations for your son. How WELL do I remember those promotions. Jim is beginning to
talk more about things he encountered. It is like retirement has given him the *right* to feel
all those feelings finally, for many of them carried over into his civilian career. He seems
looser and happier than I have seen him....... well, maybe never????? What was your husband's
career field? Golly, it seems so strange to be talking to someone about military life. :)
Billie
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"jacquie" <happi...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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: We were in the AF for 30 years. We've been to England, Florida, Va. Az three
: times...and Alaska. Hubby also went to Thailand and Korea...not to mention
: lots of TDY's:) LOL..I was 17 when we got married and he was almost
: 21...talk about growing up real fast..:) My son is now making a career out
: of the AF. He sewed on TSGT in January.:
Julie Bove
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>
http://www.diabeticexpress.com/content/ProductDetail.aspx?CategoryID=74&SubCategoryID=&ItemID=23-07
>
> it's a MedPort Pill splitter that i have with the
> varying
> ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) sizes to hold the
> pill in
Aargh! I just ordered two of these since I hadn't seen them anywhere else.
Thought I would get a spare one. Did I get the item that was depicted? No!
I did not. I got two of the same cheapo blue models I already have with the
"V" shaped opening. I tried calling them but apparently customer service is
not in at the moment. I have to wait for them to call me back.
W. Baker
also went to Thailand and Korea...not to mention : lots of TDY's:) LOL..I
was 17 when we got married and he was almost : 21...talk about growing up
real fast..:) My son is now making a career out : of the AF. He sewed on
TSGT in January.
: "Billie" <love.my...@kittycats.net> wrote in message :
news:gYz2g.18768$tN3....@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... : And Jim said
that is some congressmen had their way, they would do away with : the
health : benefits. Yep, those promises made back in the 50's are like a
sieve...... : holes all through : them, with the promises dribbling right
out. Who'd a'thought that serving : your country was not : appreciated
any more than that. Gotta get away from here.... this subject : pushes a
lot of my : buttons. LOL !! A *wealthy* country, yet some of its members
qualified for : food stamps, and : the ones we knew were not isolated
cases. *sad*
This issue of the government going back on the earlier promises applies
not ol to the military, but to various government workers s well. In NYC
the mayor is now talking about switching the defined benefit pension plan
to a 401K type for city Teachers (and I woud assumeother workers as he
can). Many government wrkers take their jobs on the basis that , although
the pay may not be the highest, there is security and a decent pension a
teh end. the pension is a form of deferred salary. If you change the
rules it doesn't seem quite right, unless you give eveybody a large lump
sum to cover what they are loosing.
Wendy
TigerLily
to bad they don't know their own stock.... AND
they think they are the same thing :-(
hope they sort it out for you quickly Julie
kate
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jacquie
college degree before he got out because you can't find many jobs like his
in civilian life..LOL. So he got his Masters(took about 15 years to get) He
got a job as an instructer in the Technology Department at our local
Community College. He has been Head chair for three years now. He doesn't
talk much about the AF anymore. He retired in 1998. I had a friend who went
to Turkey with her husband, She and her son were towhead blondes...she said
their hair got touched all the time...because the Turks thought it was good
luck:) She also said they more or less worship the cat.. so she saw them
everywhere. We first met while doing Pet abuse and neglect cases on base.
When we went to England, Hubby went first to find us a house...So here I was
just 21...a 2.5 year old and an 8 month old...flying(the very first time in
my life) from Tucson to Dallas to PA...then to NJ to catch the plane to
England. Boy I tell you talk about being pooped by the time we got to our
base in England. I really enjoyed the tour...wish hubby had more rank so we
could have done more traveling. My youngest was born there:) I think Alaska
was my favorite place to be...I loved being there. We are back home in AZ we
came home from AK early on a Humanitarian because my Mother had terminal
cancer. She lived for about a year after we came home. The early years were
tough...especially before we started getting COL raises.
jacquie
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> oh no! sigh
>
> to bad they don't know their own stock.... AND
> they think they are the same thing :-(
>
> hope they sort it out for you quickly Julie
Well, that remains to be seen. Spent about an hour on the phone, most of it
on hold, between the two phone calls. They never did call me back. I had
to call them.
First they didn't understand the problem. Thought I didn't receive the
package at all. Then the woman came back cheerfully to tell me it had been
delivered yesterday! I explained it again. On hold again. She then came
back and said that the shipping dept. was going to bring one to her. No, I
said. I needed two.
She then asked me to ship back the ones I didn't want. I asked about
postage. Apparently they thought I'd be happy to pay the postage to ship it
back.
I tried and tried to get them to confirm that the items they'd now be
shipping to me were indeed the items I had ordered. Never did get
confirmation on that. At least they ship quickly. Funny thing is the day I
ordered these my horoscope had warned me not to do any online transactions
because they would go wrong! Guess that part was right!