Zinc Carnosine, H Pylori and diabetes

[Julie Bove]

Did I post this before. I sort of have a feeling that I might have. I was
reading a magazine article that said there is a link between H Pylori and
diabetes and that Zinc Carnosine will take care of it. I did search and
although I see the first two things linked I do not see any links to
diabetes.

I am not sure which magazine I read it in. It was either Woman's World or
First. I tend to get them confused because they look so much alike.

I am using Carnosine drops in my eyes. The last two times I have been to
the eye Dr. he said nothing about cataracts and I forgot to ask. But it
could be that they went away since I stopped taking the statin.

[GysdeJongh]

It was also more than once in my mens magazine. I'm pretty sure it was in
Pubmed. There was nothing about either Zinc or Carnosine.



J Infect Dis. 2012 Apr 15;205(8):1195-202. Epub 2012 Mar 13.
Association between gastric Helicobacter pylori colonization and glycated
hemoglobin levels.

Abstract
BACKGROUND: Few studies have evaluated the potential influence of
Helicobacter pylori on biomarkers for diabetes. METHODS: We conducted
cross-sectional analyses using data from 7417 participants in the National
Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) III (aged ≥18 years) and
6072 participants in NHANES 1999-2000 (aged ≥3 years) to assess the
association between H. pylori and levels of glycosylated hemoglobin (HbA1c).
RESULTS: There was no association between H. pylori and history of
self-reported diabetes. Helicobacter pylori seropositivity, especially H.
pylori cagA positivity, was positively associated (P < .01, NHANES III; P =
.02, NHANES 1999-2000) with HbA1c levels after excluding individuals with
history of diabetes and controlling for potential confounders. There was
also a synergistic interaction between H. pylori and higher body mass index
(BMI), such that increased levels of HbA1c associated with having both H.
pylori and higher BMI were greater than the sum of their individual effects
(P for interaction < .01). This interaction was observed consistently in
both NHANES III and NHANES 1999-2000 and for H. pylori cagA positivity in
NHANES III. CONCLUSIONS: The findings indicate a role of H. pylori in
impaired glucose tolerance in adults that may be potentiated by higher BMI
level.
PMID: 22427676


J Indian Med Assoc. 2010 Mar;108(3):140-3.
Role of Helicobacter pylori in causation of diabetic gastropathies and
non-gastrointestinal complications in type 2 diabetes.

A cross-sectional case-control study was conducted in 80 diabetic patients,
to evaluate the incidence of gastropathy by endoscopy in type 2 diabetes
mellitus. An association between Helicobacter pylori infection and
non-gastrointestinal complication of diabetes mellitus was also looked into.
Gastric biopsies were subjected to rapid urease test for demonstration of
Helicobacter pylori. The fasting blood glucose levels among Helicobacter
pylori positive diabetes were 175 +/- 36.5 mg %, and in Helicobacter pylori
negative diabetics were 138 +/- 39.4 mg %. The prevalence of endoscopically
detectable gastro-intestinal complications were higher in Helicobacter
pylori infected diabetics (odd's ratio 4:2; p < 0.05). The total prevalence
of Helicobacter pylori positive in diabetics by rapid urease test was
statistically significant (p < 0.05). Coronary heart disease was more
prevalent in diabetics with Helicobacter pylori infection than those without
Helicobacter pylori (57%). The prevalence of H. pylori positivity in other
complications such as peripheral vascular diseases, cerebrovascular diseases
was not significant. The association between nephropathy, retinopathy and
neuropathy with Helicobacter pylori, was also observed and the strong
association was seen in diabetic retinopathy (p < 0.001), diabetic
neuropathy (p < 0.01) and nephropathy (p < 0.001).
PMID: 21043350

[Julie Bove]

"GysdeJongh" <JonghSevenHundredElevenAtPlanet.nl> wrote in message
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> Julie Bove wrote:
>> Did I post this before. I sort of have a feeling that I might have. I
>> was reading a magazine article that said there is a link between H
>> Pylori and diabetes and that Zinc Carnosine will take care of it. I
>> did search and although I see the first two things linked I do not
>> see any links to diabetes.
>>
>> I am not sure which magazine I read it in. It was either Woman's
>> World or First. I tend to get them confused because they look so
>> much alike.
>> I am using Carnosine drops in my eyes. The last two times I have
>> been to the eye Dr. he said nothing about cataracts and I forgot to
>> ask. But it could be that they went away since I stopped taking the
>> statin.
>
> It was also more than once in my mens magazine. I'm pretty sure it was in
> Pubmed. There was nothing about either Zinc or Carnosine.
>
>
>
> J Infect Dis. 2012 Apr 15;205(8):1195-202. Epub 2012 Mar 13.
> Association between gastric Helicobacter pylori colonization and glycated
> hemoglobin levels.
>
> Abstract
> BACKGROUND: Few studies have evaluated the potential influence of
> Helicobacter pylori on biomarkers for diabetes. METHODS: We conducted
> cross-sectional analyses using data from 7417 participants in the National

> Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) III (aged ?18 years) and
> 6072 participants in NHANES 1999-2000 (aged ?3 years) to assess the

Hmmm... Interesting! Thanks!

[GysdeJongh]

I had a lot of GERD in my life, was tested positive for H Pylori and treated
for it. I nolonger have GERD because of a much better diet and life style. I
never used Zinc or Carnosine for GERD.

As I said, there is a link between H Pylori and diabetes. Zinc and/or
Carnosine helps for GERD and H Pylori. I don't think that the conclusion
from these two observations might be that Zinc and/or Carnosine helps both
with GERD and Diabetes.

<http://www.lifescript.com/health/centers/digestive/articles/qa_how_do_you_treat_h_pylori.aspx>

Supplemental zinc has been shown to be as effective as Pepcid, a popular
antacid, in reducing symptoms and promoting healing of ulcers. Recent
research suggests that zinc is even more effective when combined with
carnosine (an amino acid combo). In addition to preventing and helping heal
ulcers, zinc-carnosine also kills H. pylori.

[Julie Bove]

"GysdeJongh" <JonghSevenHundredElevenAtPlanet.nl> wrote in message

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I'm going to try it.

[Colt T]

I've been taking 25 mg of reg zinc.